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 Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R tires, brand new just released in Japan

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phobian
post Nov 22 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 21 2013, 09:05 PM)
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so what do you think? brows.gif

disappointed? or exceeded your expectations?

so far there is in fact 1 guy i know who's disappointed with the tire... mainly pricing issue as he compared it against semi slicks sad.gif
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Cannot comment yet as I did not have the chance to drive with it yet.

How to compare pricing with semi slicks - it is an entirely different class though.
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post Nov 23 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 22 2013, 06:51 PM)
here's the thing:
a lot of semi slicks are cheaper than the ad08r, and as a matter of fact (being semi slicks lol) it grips better than the ad08r.

so it comes down to: "why pay more for poorer grip?"
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Agree - but constructively:

1. Price for semi slicks is a tad cheaper or comparable for rim sizes 15 & 16 inchers. Dont recall 17s semi slicks would be that competitively prices. 18s and beyond, can forget about it.

2. Application. Daily driven in semi slicks is kind of waste isnt it. Unless driver likes the feeling of breaking his/her neck on every street corners and brakes with a lateral G close to 1

3. Max vs race performance tyre classification. Maybe he has been there and done that with street based tyres and prefers the 3-5 seconds advantage to his track times. Or touge in Genting allowing him to keep up with cars more powerful than his. Again, more grip applies more stress to the handling to the vehicle. This should not be taken lightly especially the links and joints connecting to the wheels directly.

On the whole, everyone is entitled their own opinion and understand that budget plays a vital role in this. So what is listed above is my personal view point.
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post Nov 23 2013, 02:59 PM

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Agree, especially the last paragraph.
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post Dec 26 2013, 03:14 AM

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I will let the results speak for itself. Though I am still shy from my target of 2.40s, but using this tyres and improvising my lines and know how of track driving. Previously on Achilles 123S, my personal best was 2.47. Like I say, just a tyre change would not shave that 6 seconds off, but improvements was made on other things. Base on my 2.41 run, I was 30mm short of wheelbase diameter as I removed my 20mm spacers and was running on a 235 width tyres. Objectively, I would prefer a 245 width tyres but there was none in stock - so beggars cant be choosers.

For short, this tyres hold up to my requirements especially when pushed hard. I have even tried to push the tyres to the extent I was fighting the tyre grip with steering in an understeer condition and surprisingly it held up and was beyond my expectations - especially turn 15 when I WOT before clipping the apex. Was fun and an eye opening experience, but I need more track time for data logging.
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post Jan 2 2014, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Dec 26 2013, 03:31 PM)
What is the setup/mod of your EVO X??
2:41 on narrower tyre than stock is  thumbup.gif
Fastest i have seen on street tyre is 2:37 ish so you are not that far off
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Bone stock except for exhaust (manifold onwards) and lowered dress up springs. ECU remap to run using RON95.

I was pacing with a R35 GTR hence made many mistakes and learned a lot of things which I did not notice, and achieving optimum timing of 2.38 as per current car's status is possible. One more track time for data logging and hopefully I can achieve the optimum timing before I decide to move to my next line of mods and even achievement of time. But definitely, I am sticking to this tyres!
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post Jun 16 2014, 04:04 PM

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On my 2nd set now, but different size - 265/35/18.

Just to share some quick thoughts/review on my previous set of 235/40/18.
1. Daily driven mileage of 20,000kms + 3 track days with a total laps of approximately 50-53 laps & countless of karak-gohtong touge runs

2. Ran on the track with a max of 40psi and the tyres still hold up very well. I find it best to run it on 36-38psi after warmed up

3. Adhesion limit - even I ran hot for continuously for 8 laps, did not feel the greasy feeling

4. Tyre grip was progressively consistent on dry grip. Braking starts to feel inefficient went tyre threads were near the TWI. But still sufficient to slow down effectively on daily driven/street spirited runs

5. Personally, I felt the sidewalls are stiff enough. I wear out the outside of the tyres so much more compared to the inside tyre. Center tyre wear is very healthy/still plenty. I ran camber of -2.5 front and -1.5 rear on track days. Daily driven, front -1.5 and rear -1.0

6. NVH/tyre noise - closing to the TWI, the tyres roars! No fix to this except to pump the volume on your stereo yo!

7. Price vs grip vs mileage - I paid rm860 (i think) for my previous 235/40/18. Comparing this with my previous experience of Achilles 123S of RM500 a piece. Though the price is a premium of 70%, i get double the mileage, 30-35 more laps at track time and a very consistent grip throughout the tyre wear.

Adding to the injury - I am another happy and ever satisfied AD08R user and also very pleased with
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continuous support. Looking forward for the next track outing to break my 2.41.02 personal best as I believe the car is now on another notch up the uber level. Just kidding! icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 17 2014, 12:56 AM

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Glad my feedback could help in deciding whether to try out the AD08R.

If you would like to see a living proof of my tyres - the tyres and rims is still at nestum's place as I did not have the time to pick it up last Saturday. Just drop by and ask him to show you the Enkei's wrapped with AD08r.

It took me quite a while to decide whether or not to use back AD08R as I always wanted to try new tyres. But the fact that the previous set served me well, I did not want to take my chance and wanted to test it further as I have had my entire handling tuned but not track tested yet. I guess next in line would be Hankook RS3 and Toyo R1R.
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post Jun 24 2014, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 17 2014, 02:49 PM)
So you have changed new rim to run 265 width AD08R??
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I give you more...a video!

http://youtu.be/1j4vNVIA0TQ
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post Jan 15 2015, 01:24 AM

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That yellow X is a very tuned car. Driver is also not the average trackie joe you find on streets.

Anyway, it is still not a the fastest record for street AWD. It may seem so because for years, not many street AWD class made to 2.30s. Take a look down history lane of ZTH's first ever TTA and those days 2.0 AWD street class already did 2.30-1s with Federal 595rsr.

On my current AD08r, i have clocked close to 50 laps at SIC and 12k kms of city/touge runs. Still going strong and love this tyres. Hoping to do 2.37 consistently with 300whp.

 

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