spore is the 'what msia could have been' model.......and hence, not without merit, a defacto standard for msia/msian to benchmark against.........

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Added on January 18, 2009, 1:28 pmi think it is pretty clear to most here who starts arguments in this forum......

Tell me then, who started the "Indian Syndrome" and private medical education destroys the spirit of service to your people and your country"?

i did, and these are facts.......no need to argue.....

perhaps you may want to talk to some of you friends who are studying/working in uk, to verify what i said about 'asians' (in the uk context, that means the subcontinent)........

dense.....

i was referring to some here who are already talking about doing qualifying exams to work overseas, even before graduating, and even before embarking on clinical years......

What's wrong with planning early? It's better to have a goal than not to have any.

looks like the 'indian syndrome' has descended upon msia.......actually it should be 'subcontinent syndrome'.....

every indian/parkistan/bangla medical student and junior doctor dreams of going to work and settle in the developed world........they will try all ways, sit for the plab, usmle (or ecfmg/vqe in the past), amc, whatever........

and of course these countries are very wary of the subcontinent people.....they have a tendency to stay on after visiting.......that is why there is NO visa on arrival in uk for them, unlike msian or singaporeans......

on the other hand, msians, sporeans, hongkies tend to do what they need to do, and then leave, return back to their own country.......for that reason, it was easier for them to get jobs compared to the subcontinent people........of course some stayed on, but that is more by chance/circumstances, rather than premeditated choice.........

looks like not any more.......not for msians anyway.....

understandably, these countries are wary of msians nowadays........uk is think of withdrawing the visa on arrival for msians.........

what happened to service to your people, and country.........??

private medical education destroyed that.......amongst other reasons, of course.......

sad......

p/s i should add that i am not criticising such decisions, if i were in your shoes now, i would certainly be thinking the same way.......how to abandon a sinking ship......

that, my friend, is called the 'asian' syndrome......lah.......

pssss........ go ask your friends in uk/oz whatever, whether the local brits, aussie etc are planning to sit for registration exams to go practise elsewhere.........

that, my friend, is called the 'asian' syndrome......lah.......

And now you are being critical towards those who plan early?

even with my caveat at the end you cannot understand.......oh dear.....where did i criticise......i am merely stating the facts........

i can tell you that 20 years ago, it wasn't like this in msia.........

it is still not like this in spore and hk, together with msia of the old days, these 3 ex-colonies were shinning examples, students went to study, work, train in uk, and then they go home.........

While it is good to plan ahead but don't go paranoid or to unusual length over it.

From what I know, majority of local UK/Aussie medical students studying in UK/Aussie do not plan as far ahead as to go elsewhere the very moment they graduates. I believe the majority of them intends to work in the country they graduated from, i.e. UK or Aussie.

From what I understand of limeuu, he is saying that is not the case with Asian student. They will graduate from Country A with the intention to work in Country B aka it's a Asian syndrome.

I think you really should go get new reading glasses.

Back your claim of Asian Syndrome with evidence pls.

Perhaps you need a reading glasses too.

You REALLY should go buy new reading glasses.

Did you not notice there are people taking about graduating in Country A and going to Country B to practice in this very thread? Personally, these are the very evidence of this Asian Syndrome you asked about but don't seem to be able to see.

Take my advise. You really needed new reading glasses.

hello friend, where did i blame anybody?.........i am just stating the facts, it is up to you to think what the root causes are.......like i said, do i have to spell everything out?

i think i have made my points quite clear on this issue, and it is up to the readers to understand........or misunderstand........whatever.....

signing off on this subject matter now.........

Therefore, Asian Syndrome means "pre-mediated" to graduate from country A and work in country B.

Back your claim that msian doctors have contracted the so called Asian Syndrome.

Why are here people asking whether they can practice in Singapore but are not doing medical degree in Singapore? If this is not Asian Syndrome, then I don't know what is.

Now try to spot the differences between these 2 sentences if you canl.

1. I only mentioned the existence of this so called Asian Syndrome (which you keep asking for evidence even though it's in this very thread).

2. I am not trying to debate the cause of that syndrome (which you are trying to do but I have no interest).

And BTW, I wasn't the one posting that private medical education question that you keeps asking me about. Proof that you really need new reading glasses.

So, limeuu. Does that mean that we should not think about any of the future pathways untill we graduate? I don't quite understand this.

" was referring to some here who are already talking about doing qualifying exams to work overseas, even before graduating, and even before embarking on clinical years......and heavens forbid, even before actually being admitted into med school......."

I find nothing bad about understanding the future job prospects since we're already in this field. Do you mean that we should just focus for whatever we're reading now and should not care about our future paths until we've reached that stage to, which in this case after graduation? Please clarify. Would like to know about the right thoughts i should have now.