was.......

If fully registrable with GMC, what are you doing in Msia then?
Wasn't aware of a school from 3rd world that is fully registrable with GMC. If not, i would have been there.
Btw, are you a specialist?

gmc recognised/recognises several former colonies med schools......

But seriously dude, why you dun want to work in UK? Isn't the working condition there better?

aiya, den India lor

no everbody will even if they can......but it is nice to have the option.......

uk is not that perfect a place to migrate.....

i did work there for a while.......

i don't think gmc recognised any indian med school, ever.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 08:46 PM

Then where??
come on, tell already

http://www.gmc-uk.org/register/employing/r...information.asp

the onli left out is S.Africa lor, Aus/NZ/SG/HK are all developed right

hk and spore only considered developed maybe the last 10 years or so.....

in addition to um, the university of the west indies in trinidad and tobago was also recognised, but they together with um was subsequently derecognised.......

okay lah.......

um

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Added on August 8, 2008, 9:12 pmi too had the sense of doubt, inferiority complex when comparing with the brit graduates...but after working there, i realised we are on par....i had pretty good med education, as good as the british schools.......

caveat: that was the 'old' um......

by the same token, many graduates from 3rd world unis and local ipta/ipts really sucks....



This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 09:42 PM

see, i got the right ans from the beginning

but um is NOT recognised by gmc......

getting the right answer using the wrong method and reasoning is NOT acceptable.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 8 2008, 09:27 PM

Damn, UM
You are a non bumi right?
Btw, wanna ask, did you specialize after you graduate? And how old are you? In the 30s?

stop the labeling already, 3rd world ..1st world. lolx.
We are one world+smiley xD - Olympic 2008 heh.

We have just flooded with off-topic posts on AIMST thread .. It happens whenever u guys start debating.

Well, debating ain't bad. It's alright as long as no personal attack is involved.

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This post has been edited by haya: Aug 9 2008, 04:36 PM

i guess arnd 50-55

This post has been edited by wgy589: Aug 9 2008, 09:12 AM

err im not a med student, but whats with the labeling of first world third world thing? gosh not every1 r Richy rich to get into those ivy leagues or whatever even if they have the best results..so stop comparing-to those who love to compare...im from an uni which some(those so-called ivy league brats) might consider 2nd class too..but seriously, it doesn't make us any lesser.. n to the aimst students, ignore those who look down on u guys, im sure u guys are as good as the others..

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Added on August 9, 2008, 12:57 pmn btw, im not from aimst, so dont think im promoting the uni..just felt bad for those students from there who have to keep facing the remarks from ppl who r rich n find cheaper unis bad...hahaha

This post has been edited by cutejams2004: Aug 9 2008, 12:57 PM

this is NOTHING to do with money or wealth......

there IS a difference between developed economies, and 3rd world, in many things, not least the way doctors are trained......

there is a significant difference between how selection, and training of future doctors are done.....

in the developing world, money WILL get you into medical school, just look at msia.....as ethincity....

in developed economies, because education is state funded, citizens pay little fees, and even that is deferred as loans, to be paid when you start working......so EVERYBODY can enter uni, if they want and qualify........selection into med schools is then purely on merit, based on a combination of applitude (various tests eg isat, umat, pqa etc), interview, and academic results.......MONEY will NOT get you in, if you don't qualify......

so which is the fairer system?.......you tell me.......

you are identifying the deficiencies of the msian system , and blaming the 1st world for charging high fees.....if msia med schools are as good quality, selected on merit, do you think people will want to spend a fortune overseas.......??these high quality education you get in good 1st world countries, they do NOT have give you an education, you are a foreigner, but since you want, they will charge you the FULL cost of that education......

the basis of all the problems we are facing in education, is the FAILURE of our own education system......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 9 2008, 03:02 PM

Well i do agree with the fact we are facing an education system dilemma, malaysia seriously has problems regarding education system, the quota nonsense and all. But at the end of the day, all these problems are caused by the irresponsible government and politicians..the consequences of these problems =students are forced to settle for something they are not interested in, deprived of higher education or either they have to settle for what ever best they can get. So, at the end the victims here are us the students. Thus, is it right for us to be punished and reffered to as the lower ones just because we had to settle for unis that some might consider not high in standard? Does it mean that if the malaysian education system is screwed up, all Malaysian students studying locally or in other cheaper unis are also not capable of being a good doctor, engineer, scientist and etc? Aren't we or weren't we forced to comply to circumstances? By taunting n insulting malaysian grads from ipta or ipts, are we going to get anywhere? Are we, the students , to be blamed for the education system in Malaysia today? By downgrading us, does it make any difference to the current status or future beings of Malaysian students or the education system itself? Or what is it that u suggest the poor, unlucky but smart students to do other than trying to ease the burden of their parents by joining the ipta's or ipts's/

Isnt it better for us to encourage the Malaysian students, keep them(or us) motivated,, make us feel and think that we are on par with others globally, so that we can actually succeed to our level best? By downgrading us, it only makes things more difficult and impossible...An university's ranking alone doesnt make a student a great person in future...its the student themselves who can build their knowledge, and last but not least, results isnt everything...What is important, is that we work hard, broaden our spectrum of knowledge by our own effort and THINK!

This post has been edited by cutejams2004: Aug 9 2008, 03:39 PM

I'd say the university does play a role in creating great physicians or surgeons. Of course, it is not only the education that i playing the role. Students they themselves need to have the commitment too.

Therefore, good university + good student = good doctors. Lousy university + good student will produce students lack of clinical knowledge etc. Therefore they need to work extra hard when they come to their life as a houseman. And THAT, still does not gurantee them of becoming one skillful doctor in the future. It varies i guess.

University ranking. As long as students produced are competent, maybe not equally. It's fine. We're not competiting against who's the top surgeons anyways. Just wanna be a doctor equipped with sufficient knowledge so that we could still benefit the society in the same way. Ignore the income of the great surgeons or whatsover. Some of them work purely just to earn money and they tend to forget all the medical ethics already. I guess it really depends on how a person thinks. Again, thought varies.