Meanwhile I'll stick to leaving a good space between myself and the kar in front

I almost never get into situations where I have to brake really hard anyway.

This post has been edited by lhwj: Mar 19 2013, 11:58 PM

Luckily no accident happen and no one injure...Thanks god....Btw, FLX EXEC brake geng leh...hehe...

if ayam not wrong, ABS function like u press on the brake 50% then increase to 80% then reduce again to 50%?

so by right if u can control these via right foot should have the same effect as ABS?

anyway, i remember reading that some cars will actually have brakes applied on all 4 tyres where the front have full force brake and rear have something like 25% to 50% of brake force?

today bad luck

my new flx kena hit by mat rempit


lucky kena cermin only and no broken or calar, that pokai rempit drive 1++km in jln kuching...after kena speed up and gone...#@$@#^$!#@$

This post has been edited by outsider: Mar 19 2013, 10:06 PM

ABS doesn't kick in unless you brake hard enough for the wheel to slip. Then it will decrease the brake force until the wheel has grip again, increase brake force until the wheel starts to slip and the cycle repeats itself a few times a second. In an emergency it's doubtful that even the best driver can do the same thing.

Electronic brake force distribution. Keeps the appropriate braking force on each wheel so that the car goes straight and doesn't pull to one side, for example if only your right wheels hit a puddle, if you brake then your car will pull towards the left, because the right wheels have a lot less friction. EBD should prevent this. Don't confuse this with ESC. ESC can kick in even without touching the brakes.

Even on non-ABS cars the front brakes are already designed to have more force than the rear, because when you brake the weight distribution moves forward.

This post has been edited by lhwj: Mar 19 2013, 10:13 PM

Front brake has more force than rear is a safety feature, so that if you were to lock your wheel during emergency braking, you will lock your front wheels first.

If you lock your front wheels, your car can still go straight. If your rear wheels are locked first, the car will go anywhere but straight forward. It has to do with force and moment exerted on The car's body.

hmm...too bad BLM has NONE of these goodies
nvm practice human ABS next...

Locked rear wheels = fishtailing. Scary stuff

On the same note, I hear a lot of people say always use the rear brake on a bicycle, because if you pull the front brake you'll fly over the handlebars. What rubbish, I have clocked a few thousand km of road riding and the front brake always work better. In fact I only use the rear brake when I want to pull the bike vertical on its rear wheel and at one point, my bike didn't have rear brakes at all

That's why I told you last night, the FLX is everything the BLM should have been in the first place. Just too bad we missed it by being a year too early.

I distribute brake between rear And Front on my bike.

Btw off topic, currently looking for budget roadbike. Any Suggestion?

Hongda Cub

Basically, something like that. Brake, let go, regain grip, brake. In an emergency, the average joe would just be panicking and slamming the brakes. Hence ABS is better.

If you have v-brakes, and I mean the real v-brakes, that flipping can happen really easily.

For a majority of brakes, they don't bite hard enough to flip you. And you have to be moving at enough momentum to flip yourself in the first place.

Jalan kuching...terrible yo

Just got enough time to compose myself, sitting down at mamaks enjoy my "so called MILO but it's not" malt chocolate drink. My hands are still shivering, my right feet still have the Dejavu everytime I step on the brake pedal. I've been holding my phone typing, erasing, type again, erase again, trying to think, what can I contribute at this event. Finally I've made up my mind to follow my many years driving experience, forget about all theory I've learned but boil it down to HABIT. It's my personal driving habit.

Chain of events that may contribute to a possible disaster

• I'm a hardcore manual driver. All my life I have never experience much of ABS braking even back in the old days when I was driving 260kph in my E36 328i
• May be some of the time when I experienced the ABS, but I didn't realized it
• Just because I'm so used to manual, as the car speed reduced, my left foot will automatically hit on the clutch
• As there's no clutch pedal for a CVT(or AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION), automatically my left foot was jammed on the brake pedal together with my right foot
• If I realized my left foot should remain at the foot rest, I supposed my right foot may not have apply enough force to stop the car and or trigger the ABS function
• I've lost control countless time in different cars, be it intentional or unintentional. I even crashed my car before in accident, but this kind of full brake near miss event is 1st time, especially in an auto car
• I've always driving in the middle lane at Jln Istana. Somehow or rather I was on the right lane today, may be I was in a rush and thus subconsciously picked the fast lane. I've totally omitted the fact that I can't see the traffic infront.

I think I have a simple stupid conclusion for myself, and may be a possible good advice to others before it's too late.

1. If your'e not familiar with the car, just drive slowly. If you're not familiar with the road, also have to drive slowly. If you're not familiar with the car and the road, better get somebody drive you to get familiar with the road
2. For a manual car driver, suddenly changes of left foot habit can be done. But the basic instinct/reflect will not be taken away. At the above emergency event, if I continue let my right foot feel the threshold braking, I would have crashed the car and shouting at Plotong why the useless ABS was introduced.
3. Luckily the car is ABS, I imagine if I was driving a normal 4AT car without ABS, the same event may be fatal. If I already have my right foot doing threshold braking, as the car slowdown my left foot would have accidentally "kick" on the ... pedal that I thought it's clutch ... and threshold braking gone become jam brakes.
4. Avoid attacking blind spot corner like Jln Istana. Come to think of it, there are several spot in Mahameru, Federal highway. However Federal is safer because the guard rail wasn't as high, nor plants blocking the road.

I know you got skill. I know that kind of 100R corner is fun to attack cause the car wont turtle yes you can increase speed to feel G-Force. I know you've got the best brake in the world. The truth is, what if there's obstacle right after the blind spot. There's a very good chance that you hit the brick wall and everything stopped instantaneously, including yourself.

Cheers and drive safe, people.

Don't have experience with road bikes, I wished I had one but I've only had hybrids.

Then I guess it's all about regulating the brake force properly.

Anyway, to avoid

Today? Not a Red Shawie nor White FLX rite?

Atleast we have 1 thing that the FLX doesn't have



Wanna bet how it felt like in a Lisang Sangley?

apetu

Yeah, the GT-R Datsun gearbox

YAB is absolutely right. There are some roads with blind corners where I imagine, what if there was a broken down car on the right lane? I myself was a victim of a blind corner, at the slip road where the Penchala Link joins Jalan Duta opposite the Agong's new Istana. Always assume there's an obstacle around the blind corner, and never exceed a speed where you can't brake in time if something happens to be there.

Driving my Gaga without ABS, I've always prepared myself that if I had to do an emergency brake, I'd step hard with my right foot but not so hard until I skid, because if I do, I'm doomed. Dunno how well that will work, but until I have an ABS equipped car, I hope I don't have to find out.

Anybody here mod their Saga FLX SE or Not SE if CVT counts ( Auto )
Exhaust system? Currently thinking of hotbits Price around Rm1.5k

On the topic of ABS, the Vios at home must have the most sensitive ever. Just now went out for supper, just slowing the car down slightly faster than usual was enough to trigger it....tak tak tak tak all the way around the corner

v12kompressor swapped out his entire system from manifold to muffler tip for a lot less IINM, ask him. He drives the FLX Exec.