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post Mar 20 2013, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(outsider @ Mar 19 2013, 10:05 PM)
today bad luck

my new flx kena hit by mat rempit  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif 
lucky kena cermin only and no broken or calar, that pokai rempit drive 1++km in jln kuching...after kena speed up and gone...#@$@#^$!#@$
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haha still lucky. my car alot of scratch semua bumper blakang. dunno why ******* who dunno how to park or kluar parking. den buat dunno je. i sedar2 ade scratch je. cry.gif harituh dah try polish ok skit. now jd blek. haiya. kena diy repaint lagi la jawabnye
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QUOTE(outsider @ Mar 19 2013, 10:05 PM)
today bad luck

my new flx kena hit by mat rempit  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif 
lucky kena cermin only and no broken or calar, that pokai rempit drive 1++km in jln kuching...after kena speed up and gone...#@$@#^$!#@$
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oh god, kereta baru bro? sweat.gif
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post Mar 20 2013, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 20 2013, 01:22 AM)
On the topic of ABS, the Vios at home must have the most sensitive ever. Just now went out for supper, just slowing the car down slightly faster than usual was enough to trigger it....tak tak tak tak all the way around the corner laugh.gif
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Oh it will make sound? blink.gif All I can remember was the brake pedal felt something like a badly bengkoked disc brake. The pedal rejecting/vibrating like mad but didn't hear any other sound mellow.gif

Now when you meantion VIOS the ABS, there was once I was sending a dugong back to the shop in Serdang Raya. You know la those used car outside private road is gravel. I was happily riding the dugong and suddenly 1 apek turned out from 1 of the used car. I panic so I ma jam the brake lo since my speed is about 40 or 60kph nia. Guess what.... no ABS kick in. The car gradually slide towards my right. During that time I know masok longkang is unavoidable so I bent my arms slightly to allow dampening during impact. I shut my eyes tight ready for airbag hit my glasses...

When I open my eyes.... the car was totally stopped, but at JALAN UTAMA blink.gif The dugong hopped over the drain and landed on the mainroad laugh.gif That day customer didn't make it take that car due to personal reason, instead the sales man who witness my near miss accident bought the car himself the very same day after customer declined to sign the paper doh.gif He was saying, saw how a good car was built to avoid such traumatic incident, he's certain the 08 VIOS is 1 of the best car in the world sweat.gif

I didn't know there's a safety feature call over jump a drain whistling.gif
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If YAB driving Myvi, I think it will be other case...
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post Mar 20 2013, 08:22 AM

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one question, how to do emergency braking? just press brake once really hard, or pump frequently?
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post Mar 20 2013, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:22 AM)
one question, how to do emergency braking? just press brake once really hard, or pump frequently?
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I experience once, I just brake hard only...I dunno for others~
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:22 AM)
one question, how to do emergency braking? just press brake once really hard, or pump frequently?
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as far i know press once till car stop or break tercabut? flex.gif
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post Mar 20 2013, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 20 2013, 12:00 AM)
[*] If your'e not familiar with the car, just drive slowly. If you're not familiar with the road, also have to drive slowly. If you're not familiar with the car and the road, better get somebody drive you to get familiar with the road
i agreed with this. should applied to all drivers. i myself applied this long time ago. i myself always considered me as not a professionally experienced driving car.
there's more, such as :
[*] when overshoot road exits, do not attempt to go suddenly go exit, if overshoot just drive until find the next u-turn...

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post Mar 20 2013, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:22 AM)
one question, how to do emergency braking? just press brake once really hard, or pump frequently?
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Got ABS - step as hard as you can and hold

No ABS - step as hard as you can, if you feel car is skidding, release slightly, then step hard again. See cadence and threshold braking Wiki articles in Dared post earlier.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:32 AM)
i agreed with this. should applied to all drivers. i myself applied this long time ago. i myself always considered me as not a professionally experienced driving car.
there's more, such as :
[*] when overshoot road exits, do not attempt to go suddenly go exit, if overshoot just drive until find the next u-turn...
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only owner know how his/her car limit and feeling.. thats why if someone wanna drive my car, that big NO... smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2013, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Mar 20 2013, 09:32 AM)
Got ABS - step as hard as you can and hold

No ABS - step as hard as you can, if you feel car is skidding, release slightly, then step hard again. See cadence and threshold braking Wiki articles in Dared post earlier.
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so meaning that when driving, one should know the car that you are driving is with abs or non abs right. well, from my experience, one should be well prepared before driving such as the destination, car condition, road factor, weather factor etc. for YAB's case, that one is not expected.
one also should also not too dependant on car lights (brake lights, signal) in front of you. yalor we can say drivers drive sohigh one, blame on others. from my understanding, we also have to learn to expect the movement of the vehicles around you. don't just see the vehicle in front, but see also the traffic infront of the vehicles infront of you. some like that la.
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unker.

1. boleh letak profil photo for the thread ka? i hardly spot the thread ar..
2. ada masa tak, itu itu itu lar..


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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:43 AM)
so meaning that when driving, one should know the car that you are driving is with abs or non abs right. well, from my experience, one should be well prepared before driving such as the destination, car condition, road factor, weather factor etc. for YAB's case, that one is not expected.
one also should also not too dependant on car lights (brake lights, signal) in front of you. yalor we can say drivers drive sohigh one, blame on others. from my understanding, we also have to learn to expect the movement of the vehicles around you. don't just see the vehicle in front, but see also the traffic infront of the vehicles  infront of you. some like that la.
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Drive like ninja. ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 20 2013, 06:48 AM)
Oh it will make sound? blink.gif All I can remember was the brake pedal felt something like a badly bengkoked disc brake. The pedal rejecting/vibrating like mad but didn't hear any other sound mellow.gif

Now when you meantion VIOS the ABS, there was once I was sending a dugong back to the shop in Serdang Raya. You know la those used car outside private road is gravel. I was happily riding the dugong and suddenly 1 apek turned out from 1 of the used car. I panic so I ma jam the brake lo since my speed is about 40 or 60kph nia. Guess what.... no ABS kick in. The car gradually slide towards my right. During that time I know masok longkang is unavoidable so I bent my arms slightly to allow dampening during impact. I shut my eyes tight ready for airbag hit my glasses...

When I open my eyes.... the car was totally stopped, but at JALAN UTAMA blink.gif The dugong hopped over the drain and landed on the mainroad laugh.gif That day customer didn't make it take that car due to personal reason, instead the sales man who witness my near miss accident bought the car himself the very same day after customer declined to sign the paper doh.gif He was saying, saw how a good car was built to avoid such traumatic incident, he's certain the 08 VIOS is 1 of the best car in the world sweat.gif

I didn't know there's a safety feature call over jump a drain whistling.gif
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If the Dugong can jump as hai as this, surely a small longkang is not a plobrem whistling.gif

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:32 AM)
i agreed with this. should applied to all drivers. i myself applied this long time ago. i myself always considered me as not a professionally experienced driving car.
there's more, such as :
[*] when overshoot road exits, do not attempt to go suddenly go exit, if overshoot just drive until find the next u-turn...
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One of the most dangerous things I've seen are cars missing exits on the haiway then they reverse backwards down the emergency lane doh.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 20 2013, 08:43 AM)
so meaning that when driving, one should know the car that you are driving is with abs or non abs right. well, from my experience, one should be well prepared before driving such as the destination, car condition, road factor, weather factor etc. for YAB's case, that one is not expected.
one also should also not too dependant on car lights (brake lights, signal) in front of you. yalor we can say drivers drive sohigh one, blame on others. from my understanding, we also have to learn to expect the movement of the vehicles around you. don't just see the vehicle in front, but see also the traffic infront of the vehicles  infront of you. some like that la.
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Of course. If you're driving an unfamiliar car, you should not have to brake to trigger ABS in the first place. Or if you're driving your own car for that matter. But unexpected things happen.

There are two golden rules for safe driving.

1. Assume each and every other driver is an idiot who may do stupid things and crash into you.

2. Drive as if you have no safety features. No ABS, no airbags. As if you aren't wearing your seatbelt. As if your chassis is made of paper. As if there's a sharp spike at the steering wheel pointed at your face. Safety features are good, but it makes drivers overconfident to take unreasonable risks.
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If its a MyBi, either the car terbalik or trashed into longkang ady. Usually when I drib Mybi, I drib really gently to the extend like makcik go pasar that kind a speed. Instead, I rather enjoy the akon in Mybi. Its not really super duper cool or huge wind, but I felt the wind blown out from the vent just nice & felt natural. Normally when I drib clients Mybi, the only thing I will fiddle is the thermostat. All the way MAX laugh.gif Brake... Where got brake? Stick my foot out use my shoe rubber to brake better than the brake pedal shakehead.gif

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Experienced driver in none assisted braking vehicle will have a stronger sense of braking feedback compare to ABS user. The right foot reaction to different level of brake pedal action is much precised then other driver. I however felt overwhelmed by the ABS reaction despite I drove tremendous amount of vehicle in my life. I do believe a person that familiar with ABS, they will rely too much on assistance. As & when ABS not present, the hard pedalling part will contribute to a major disaster due to wheels lock.

I myself a stick & clutch worshiper, driving an auto car the brake pedal is always my concern. I tend to accidentally use my left foot to strike on the brake pedal when my left foot seeking for clutch action. I understand the common sense for driving an auto car the left foot should always glued to the foot rest. That is under normal driving circumstances, but in an unforeseen event, basic instant reaction will kick in subconciously as a result both feet will hit hard on the same pedal.

My point is, a manual driver can drive an auto car with no problem. I believe in an emergency event, the same manual driver will react stupidly on a none ABS automactic vehicle. As for a usual ABS equiped vehicle driver, they'll most probably hit the brake hard and hoping for miracle.

Whether GaGa ABS good or bad, but I have an entirely different perception & understanding of a car's braking capacity since yesterday incident. I drove more carefully today as I travel to work. I pay more attention to my right foot reaction as I'm reaching traffic red light. My press-depress on the brake pedal goes from soft, then stronger force to stop the car rapidly, then gradually release to cut down innertia to avoid vomit. As the car reach a standstill, my right foot automatically press hard to prevent the car rolling forth/backward.

I appreciate our human body was built this way that all the basic reaction was controlled by the other part of the brain's logic thinking. If not for the incident, probably until now I have not realize pressing the brake pedal is another engineering subject. Ayam gonna cut a chicken & burn josstick later, tonight go church find a priest tok kok sing song. Thank God who look after my clumsy arse.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 20 2013, 06:48 AM)
Oh it will make sound? blink.gif All I can remember was the brake pedal felt something like a badly bengkoked disc brake. The pedal rejecting/vibrating like mad but didn't hear any other sound mellow.gif

Now when you meantion VIOS the ABS, there was once I was sending a dugong back to the shop in Serdang Raya. You know la those used car outside private road is gravel. I was happily riding the dugong and suddenly 1 apek turned out from 1 of the used car. I panic so I ma jam the brake lo since my speed is about 40 or 60kph nia. Guess what.... no ABS kick in. The car gradually slide towards my right. During that time I know masok longkang is unavoidable so I bent my arms slightly to allow dampening during impact. I shut my eyes tight ready for airbag hit my glasses...

When I open my eyes.... the car was totally stopped, but at JALAN UTAMA blink.gif The dugong hopped over the drain and landed on the mainroad laugh.gif That day customer didn't make it take that car due to personal reason, instead the sales man who witness my near miss accident bought the car himself the very same day after customer declined to sign the paper doh.gif He was saying, saw how a good car was built to avoid such traumatic incident, he's certain the 08 VIOS is 1 of the best car in the world sweat.gif

I didn't know there's a safety feature call over jump a drain whistling.gif
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FYI, ABS will feel like the pedal is vibrating and you can hear the sound "gung gung gung" very rapidly.

Diff ABS might be slightly diff lar, especially between electronic and mechanical ABS, but generally I think you should feel it in the pedal
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 20 2013, 06:48 AM)
Oh it will make sound? blink.gif All I can remember was the brake pedal felt something like a badly bengkoked disc brake. The pedal rejecting/vibrating like mad but didn't hear any other sound mellow.gif

Now when you meantion VIOS the ABS, there was once I was sending a dugong back to the shop in Serdang Raya. You know la those used car outside private road is gravel. I was happily riding the dugong and suddenly 1 apek turned out from 1 of the used car. I panic so I ma jam the brake lo since my speed is about 40 or 60kph nia. Guess what.... no ABS kick in. The car gradually slide towards my right. During that time I know masok longkang is unavoidable so I bent my arms slightly to allow dampening during impact. I shut my eyes tight ready for airbag hit my glasses...

When I open my eyes.... the car was totally stopped, but at JALAN UTAMA blink.gif The dugong hopped over the drain and landed on the mainroad laugh.gif That day customer didn't make it take that car due to personal reason, instead the sales man who witness my near miss accident bought the car himself the very same day after customer declined to sign the paper doh.gif He was saying, saw how a good car was built to avoid such traumatic incident, he's certain the 08 VIOS is 1 of the best car in the world sweat.gif

I didn't know there's a safety feature call over jump a drain whistling.gif
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most of the car ABS got sound, its sumtimes block by soundproof. My biba whn abs kikc-in is the sound similiar to "tak tak tak" but in a heavy low pitch..
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 20 2013, 06:48 AM)
Oh it will make sound? blink.gif All I can remember was the brake pedal felt something like a badly bengkoked disc brake. The pedal rejecting/vibrating like mad but didn't hear any other sound mellow.gif

Now when you meantion VIOS the ABS, there was once I was sending a dugong back to the shop in Serdang Raya. You know la those used car outside private road is gravel. I was happily riding the dugong and suddenly 1 apek turned out from 1 of the used car. I panic so I ma jam the brake lo since my speed is about 40 or 60kph nia. Guess what.... no ABS kick in. The car gradually slide towards my right. During that time I know masok longkang is unavoidable so I bent my arms slightly to allow dampening during impact. I shut my eyes tight ready for airbag hit my glasses...

When I open my eyes.... the car was totally stopped, but at JALAN UTAMA blink.gif The dugong hopped over the drain and landed on the mainroad laugh.gif That day customer didn't make it take that car due to personal reason, instead the sales man who witness my near miss accident bought the car himself the very same day after customer declined to sign the paper doh.gif He was saying, saw how a good car was built to avoid such traumatic incident, he's certain the 08 VIOS is 1 of the best car in the world sweat.gif

I didn't know there's a safety feature call over jump a drain whistling.gif
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Ya got sound together with pulsation on the brake pedal.....I suspect something wrong with the Vios ABS dy, not the first time it trigger like that.

You make me regret didnt buy dugong sad.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Mar 20 2013, 10:09 AM)
2. Drive as if you have no safety features. No ABS, no airbags. As if you aren't wearing your seatbelt. As if your chassis is made of paper. As if there's a sharp spike at the steering wheel pointed at your face. Safety features are good, but it makes drivers overconfident to take unreasonable risks.
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cars with safety features make drivers overconfident with , causing dugong flying to the moon, maivee turtled etc.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Mar 20 2013, 09:37 AM)
FYI, ABS will feel like the pedal is vibrating and you can hear the sound "gung gung gung" very rapidly.

Diff ABS might be slightly diff lar, especially between electronic and mechanical ABS, but generally I think you should feel it in the pedal
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if that's the sound of abs, then a few times i've encountered it, sounds like small rocks hitting the bottom of the car.. and i think for saga, the weight really transferred to the front when heavy breaking, might be becoz of high rear end

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