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 V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...

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Steven83
post Mar 17 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 16 2013, 11:33 PM)
Our props are damn cheap to singaporeans man. I feel like shit due to this. Huhu
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Yeah...and our property are even cheaper for singaporean after that tongue.gif but still up or down. We dunno. blush.gif
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I vote up too, but some friends here insisted there will be a big big bubble going to burst very soon.......
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post Mar 17 2013, 05:24 AM

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Anybody have any figures on the development year 2012 vs year 2013? Seems like new development and new launches are really slow most likely due to the tightening by BNM.

What's I'm afraid if they close the pipe too tight, later on the props in 2015 where i think it would be stable by then might turn out the be other way round due to the high demand and low supply scenario.
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post Mar 17 2013, 11:14 AM

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Why auction and new launch still hot but sub sale so slow How average home buyer think, isn't a sub sale now is more worth where price alway cheaper and ready for move in. Why why why....

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Sorry but isnt it newly launched is usually cheaper? Once u get the OC the subsale price usually increase...

So far what I can see is subsale price is higher... thats why new launches hot hot hot!


QUOTE(Nikmon @ Mar 17 2013, 11:14 AM)
Why auction and  new launch still hot but sub sale so slow How average home buyer think, isn't a sub sale now is more worth where price alway cheaper and ready for move in. Why why why....
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:03 PM

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May I ask your friend when was the last time we have property bubble in malaysia and ask if the price stayed down even if there is bubble?

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QUOTE(sheanhung @ Mar 17 2013, 02:56 AM)
I vote up too, but some friends here insisted there will be a big big bubble going to burst very soon.......
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:24 PM

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what's happening in Cyprus is scary to whole E.U. Not a good sign to the world economy and could be contagious.

QUOTE(ay@m @ Mar 17 2013, 12:03 PM)
May I ask your friend when was the last time we have property bubble in malaysia and ask if the price stayed down even if there is bubble?

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post Mar 17 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ay@m @ Mar 17 2013, 12:03 PM)
May I ask your friend when was the last time we have property bubble in malaysia and ask if the price stayed down even if there is bubble?

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One of them said the price might drop by half.....some more he is a lawyer. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Mar 17 2013, 11:14 AM)
Why auction and  new launch still hot but sub sale so slow How average home buyer think, isn't a sub sale now is more worth where price alway cheaper and ready for move in. Why why why....
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Boss, you post this hoping someone would answer but I'm sure you know already right?

New launches - low initial cost (low downpayment, DIBS, other discount, pay only interest before completion, etc)
Subsale - high initial cost (10% downpayment for most cases, immediate full monthly installment, renovation costs, etc)

Obviously most people falls under the category who prefer low initial cost, no? Go in low, go out high ma...

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QUOTE(sting79 @ Mar 17 2013, 02:27 PM)
Boss, you post this hoping someone would answer but I'm sure you know already right?

New launches - low initial cost (low downpayment, DIBS, other discount, pay only interest before completion, etc)
Subsale - high initial cost (10% downpayment for most cases, immediate full monthly installment, renovation costs, etc)

Obviously most people falls under the category who prefer low initial cost, no? Go in low, go out high ma...
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You are right. There are plenty of new launches with minimal down payment, some even 0%

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post Mar 17 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(sheanhung @ Mar 17 2013, 02:13 PM)
One of them said the price might drop by half.....some more he is a lawyer.  sweat.gif
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If drop half, many contractors and developer will makan rumput or else properties being sapu or shot by investors smile.gif
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Maybe it has been discussed. How will GST be affecting property sale?
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post Mar 17 2013, 03:04 PM

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Let's say if got a property wanna sell out, what are the things need to be consider? For the buyer and seller, or else I also not clear what are the benefits/ disavantages for the articles @@
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Yea... I think you better ask your lawyer friend when in malaysia history got property bubble....

Well, given the benefit of doubt... if there is really bubble happening in the past, did the price recover after that?

Key word is location... for good location I doubt it will drop to half of that value...

Cyprus is not malaysia... who knows ppl in msia damn rich with lots of savings... even if the price drop in half... ppl will just keep...

Never say never... but I doubt property in msia will be hit hard... even in 1997... the property price has already recovered and is on positive earning region...

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QUOTE(sheanhung @ Mar 17 2013, 02:13 PM)
One of them said the price might drop by half.....some more he is a lawyer.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sting79 @ Mar 17 2013, 02:27 PM)
Boss, you post this hoping someone would answer but I'm sure you know already right?

New launches - low initial cost (low downpayment, DIBS, other discount, pay only interest before completion, etc)
Subsale - high initial cost (10% downpayment for most cases, immediate full monthly installment, renovation costs, etc)

Obviously most people falls under the category who prefer low initial cost, no? Go in low, go out high ma...
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Haha, I purposely put homebuyer not investor, unless all the new launch was acquired by investor, but I believe there are some buy for own stay in new launch. biggrin.gif maybe some heme buyer may reply why they willing to wait 3-4 years and pay premium.

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Our household debt is at it's highest and one of the highest in the world (if compare to disposable income).

When BNM increase interest rates, then we can see many lelongs..
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If so, BNM won't simply increase the BLR or else will see many lelings cases and chaotic situation perhaps. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ay@m @ Mar 17 2013, 03:12 PM)
Yea... I think you better ask your lawyer friend when in malaysia history got property bubble....

Well, given the benefit of doubt... if there is really bubble happening in the past, did the price recover after that?

Key word is location... for good location I doubt it will drop to half of that value...

Cyprus is not malaysia... who knows ppl in msia damn rich with lots of savings... even if the price drop in half... ppl will just keep...

Never say never... but I doubt property in msia will be hit hard... even in 1997... the property price has already recovered and is on positive earning region...

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Just because it never happened before doesn't mean that it wouldn't happen.

Just ask the Americans during '07.

They probably asked the same question just before the prices collapsed.

I agree that location is key. But during a downturn all props drop, just a matter of much only.

But if there is a bubble (which I think there is...) and it pops...the question would be how severe and how bad.

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Mar 17 2013, 03:17 PM)
Our household debt is at it's highest and one of the highest in the world (if compare to disposable income).

When BNM increase interest rates, then we can see many lelongs..
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BNM won't increase because the Feds won't increase and more importantly, the Chinese won't increase the value of their yuan....

While sticking the fact that unlike but not impossible principle, right now the world is racing to the bottom in terms of money printing and interest setting...biggrin.gif

If BNM increases the interest rate above inflation rate, I wouldn't even bother investing and put everything into FD...no need headache.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ay@m @ Mar 17 2013, 03:12 PM)
Yea... I think you better ask your lawyer friend when in malaysia history got property bubble....

Well, given the benefit of doubt... if there is really bubble happening in the past, did the price recover after that?

Key word is location... for good location I doubt it will drop to half of that value...

Cyprus is not malaysia... who knows ppl in msia damn rich with lots of savings... even if the price drop in half... ppl will just keep...

Never say never... but I doubt property in msia will be hit hard... even in 1997... the property price has already recovered and is on positive earning region...

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When in Malaysian history:

a) Did property increase 40-50% in just a few years (2009-2012)?
b) Did you see so many speculators rushing to queue to buy property?
c) Did you see so many "For Sale" signs right after a certain property VP?
d) Did you see so many "Bank Lelong" signs on traffic lights, lamp posts, forums, everywhere?
e) Did you hear of so many ordinary working joe taking loans to own 4, 5, 6 or even 7+ properties? Not business tycoon mind you, ta kung zhai?

Even in 1997 most people will tell you they didn't see so many "Bank Lelong" signs, despite many people having their house possessed by the Bank.

Draw your own conclusions lo.

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