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 V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...

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Steven83
post Mar 16 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(satrianeo-x @ Mar 16 2013, 01:40 AM)
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...51&sec=business

Seriously guys.. How does this affect us? Wanna learn. Rq
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Once Singapore drop M'sia FX reference rate. What will happens?
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post Mar 16 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Hello_kitty 89 @ Mar 16 2013, 11:45 AM)
Means 1 sgd change to more ringgit? Like that we untung ma
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Oh....if that's the case than soon you will see Singapore ppl starts to sell off Malaysia property smile.gif
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post Mar 16 2013, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Hello_kitty 89 @ Mar 16 2013, 09:33 PM)
Why Singapore currency high they sell the properties?
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Now is 2.5 RM over 1 SGD, if lets said 4 over 1 SGD after impact
Imaging, what you pay for the building for before was RM800k which is SGD 320k, now when you want to sell it after impact, your house is only SGD 200k. Will the investor love it? blink.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 16 2013, 11:33 PM)
Our props are damn cheap to singaporeans man. I feel like shit due to this. Huhu
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Yeah...and our property are even cheaper for singaporean after that tongue.gif but still up or down. We dunno. blush.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 09:38 PM

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any ways to measure how many mortgage debt is with non BLR? That will highlight the risk rate...
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post Mar 18 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 18 2013, 10:22 PM)
Lol. Those Americans I know all still living comfortably.

Look back this post and your post after 30 years from now. You will be laughing why you said so.
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Are you sure about this? Any data?
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post Mar 19 2013, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Mar 19 2013, 09:21 AM)
Actually I called up most of the agents, its just their stupid trick to price it lower so tat potential customer calls them juz to be informed tat the asking price has been increased...
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The agent has another method, they will tell you the unit was not available...but I have a more expensive unit. Are you u interested? rclxms.gif anyhow there are some area, the price really drop.
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post Mar 19 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Mar 19 2013, 08:13 PM)
I believe to ensure the bubble wont pop we need the following conditions.

1) new launch buyers mostly are own stay buyers with good income
2) large pool of tenants with the ability to pay high rent
3) low interest rates
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Yeah, agreed.

But lets do a reality check.

1) new launch buyers mostly are own stay buyers with good income
ans: nope, there is a lot of new launch subsales after obtain OC.

2) large pool of tenants with the ability to pay high rent
ans: nope, because I notice most seller going to sell because the rent can't good enough, so they decide to sell it after the end of the tenant renting.

3) low interest rates
ans: yeah....more demand for first homer.
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post Mar 20 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ Mar 19 2013, 10:13 PM)
You said price going up bla bla bla........I can still accept.

But the words in bold - very fake. I know first hand very large amount of bank valuation FAR below asking price and agent asking buyer to top up cash. This is a fact and undeniable. Lets just say......fishy.  hmm.gif
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Agreed on the fishy for the bold part,Majority of my friend who bought a house, facing issue on the valuation from bank is lower than the asking price by 20%. But they get some valuation from other party (backdoor) to get the loan approve. Even my opposite Aunty also can't get the valuation from the bank and have to let the landed property years ago....after 3 years that building is full of tall glasses, if I have time maybe I can take a photo of a few ghost house at my prima zone.

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post Mar 20 2013, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 20 2013, 01:06 AM)
Like this is not fair bro. one owner may sell higher or lower than another. so how do you categorize this? I give u one example. I have been looking for a shoplot in one area (not in KV)
Lot A: asking price RM680K, Rental RM3300/monthly

Lot B (next to A only): asking price RM810K, Rental RM3600/monthly

Lot C (in another row but not so far from Lot A and B): asking price: RM600K, Rental RM2800/month

Bank valuation for all stucked at: RM600K.

So how do you categorize this? You will also pening, I guarantee you.

a) If I buy Lot A, would you say the market has dropped? Valuation is still below asking price. 85% loan only. But ROI is at 5.8%
b) If I buy Lot B, what is your comment pulak? Valuation is still below asking price., Same 85% loan. ROI is at 5.3%
c) If I buy Lot C, what is your comment pulak? Valuation is at par with asking price. Same 85% loan. ROI is at 5.6%
Not easy to categorize this part rclxub.gif None of the owners are willing to reduce the price because all said rental can cover installment. All are confident that rental can go even higher.so if one would wanna buy, asking price will be transacted price. owner's way or the highway.
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Hey...the KL rental rate really better than Penang brows.gif
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post Mar 20 2013, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 20 2013, 08:43 AM)
Bro, this is not KL as i mentioned earlier -not in KV.
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oh...not in KV...where was it?
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post Mar 20 2013, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Mar 20 2013, 07:15 PM)
I haven't increased one of my tenant's rental since 5 years ago. Although someone offered to rent the shop for 20% more. All because he is very prompt, and never never kacau/complain even 1 time unlike my other tenants. I will rather keep good tenant than having headache over 20% more rental. To me, it is not worth it.
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You are a smart owner. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 20 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Mar 20 2013, 08:05 PM)
Boss dun b shy la. I read thru all ur Genneva posts. Really salute la. Not everyone can do a proper calculation and act smart like u. If u r my biz partner, I can sleep well liao.

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Agreed. We need this kind of biz partner that look at the big picture. thumbup.gif Finally, I'm seeing some healthy investor instead of flipper. (his strategy is similar as my parents strategy)

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post Mar 22 2013, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Mar 21 2013, 11:08 PM)
Lol!!! I guess that for those who fear/ think that prices will continue to rise forever please go buy now... Lol... What better way to expedite the bubble bursting then to make it even bigger... Faster buy... Hehe...
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Yeah...please buy more...faster buy to make the condition even worse. I had change my mind, by doing this. The next generation can be save. Flipper, please continue to flip. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 22 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(foofy @ Mar 22 2013, 03:44 PM)
ya..we got lots of young foreign workers here. They contributed to Malaysia GDP too.
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GDP in construction? rclxms.gif How much the cost of the food and expense they really spent for GDP? or they just take the RM, convert to rupiah and boost their GDP in Indonesia? flex.gif
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post Mar 22 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Mar 22 2013, 05:30 PM)
Haha I think he is being sarcastic  laugh.gif  Compare to Singapore who only take in filthy rich migrants  laugh.gif
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I know, I also add in my sarcastic point as well, but my relative from Singapore don't like china man...that's why now PAP is going down
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post Mar 22 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(foofy @ Mar 22 2013, 05:42 PM)
Why didn't they hate Malaysian and Indian? These people took their high pay jobs.
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I dunno....they still encourage me to work over there...
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post Mar 22 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Mar 22 2013, 11:35 PM)
Perhaps Governor Zeti has this chart too.

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Malaysia always boleh one... rclxms.gif even for mortgage debt. I feel sorry for Malaysian.
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post Mar 23 2013, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ Mar 23 2013, 12:36 AM)
Interesting Read:

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Source

Household debt climbing into the danger zone. 80% is red zone.
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Woaha, more interesting news are coming~
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post Mar 25 2013, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 25 2013, 06:07 PM)
Yes, but the entire global economy relies on people to take loans and to consume in order to keep the factories humming and people employed and the gdp growth growing....

Funny to think that humanity has reached a point that are able to produce so much that the greatest fear of people is not enough, but so much that people don't want to buy and consume...
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this is why, the rich are become even richer and the poor will become even poorer.

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