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post Mar 7 2013, 09:39 PM, updated 13y ago

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our army already take over
and cooperate with PDRM. Takut kalau
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pasukan keselamatan kita. Mohon kepada rakyat
Sabah, jgn sebarkan tempat-tempat polis buat
roadblock, keadaan selamat tapi kena berjaga-jaga.
Berdoa mengikut kepercayaan masing-masing
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3 Commando and 5 police were fallen.
Terrorist killed 33

OPS Daulat day 2 statistic.
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Petition Reject Sulu Claims

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FAQ.

The recent video spreading on FB is fake.

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Y Military use commercial airlines.

Nothing wrong with outsourcing it to the airlines company.
C-130 would not be efficient enough to carry all the equipment + troops.
So the best way is use those airlines planes since we don't have A330MRTT like the Australia.
Also we need to fully utilize whatever resource we have to get deploy quickly and efficiently.

Hope these clarify the question asked.

what is A330MRTT "Multi Role Tanker Transport"
it can do air2air refueling for the Jet fighter at the same time it can do transportation jobs for the military.
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OPS DAULAT : SUDAH TERHANTUK BARU TERGADAH

SYABAS ATM DAN POLIS
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Tabung Wira Lahad Datu (Maybank) has been set up Acct no 514271339000 for those who want to help ease the burden of the families left behind
https://www.facebook.com/mediaumnomalaysia/...616082078417544
Facebook UTM Education Assistant For Waris Perwira Negara
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From azarimy,

I've started an FB page to suggest UTM to offer educational assistance to the children of the fallen heroes. I need your support by liking the page. Once I have enough support, I will push this to UTM administration for further action. Link Here.

I know it's probably nothing. I'm not even asking for money, nor do I have power to decide on UTM's behalf. This is just a proposal. Maybe when the upper echelon of the university sees this, they might be moved to allow it. Perhaps even give a standing offer to the children to study in UTM in the future. And since UTM have a rather large endowment funds, perhaps they could be assisted financially as well.

I saw some of the fallen warriors had children around 15-19 years old. The mothers might be worried about their future now that their fathers are gone, particularly those relying on the father as main bread earner. At least with this effort, I hope to ease the minds of the rest of our servicemen.

YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

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chronology of events

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KUALA LUMPUR: The following is the chronology of events pertaining to the intrusion into Lahad Datu, Sabah by an armed group from southern Philippines:
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Some readings on the Fallen Royal Sulu

this website not jamalul kiram III website

1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers

2. muedzul lail tan kiram

3. fuad kiram

these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye

read here
http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

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LAHAD DATU:'Sulu terrorists not fit to be known as Sulu Sultanate army'

LAHAD DATU: The Sulu terrorist group that invaded Kampung Tanduo, about 130km from here, is not fit to be known as the royal army of the Sultanate of Sulu because of their violent action which threatened the livelihood of local residents, including Muslims.

Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Ahmad Maslan said people who terrorised others should not be likened to a respectable group like the army.

"Stop referring to that terrorist group as the royal army of the Sulu Sultanate and it is also inappropriate to link the Sulu community in Sabah with the group.

"Evil has nothing to do with race. One can be evil because of greed, power greedy, with shallow religious faith and possess animalistic character," he said at a meeting with Suluk community leaders here last night.

Ahmad said the Suluk community in Sabah could succeed in life if they were hardworking.

The "Ops Daulat", launched to flush out the remaining armed intruders from the southern Philippines, is now in its sixth day with 53 of the militant invaders reported killed in the operation.

Since the intrusion by the militants on Feb 12, eight policemen had been killed, two of them in an attack in Kampung Tanduo on March 1 and the other six in an ambush in Semporna the following day.  -- BERNAMA
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LAHAD DATU: 2 policemen injured in shootout with Sulu terrorists

LAHAD DATU: Two policemen from the General Operations Force (GOF) were injured after they were fired upon by alleged Sulu terrorists during an operation in Kampung Tanduo and Kampung Tanjung Batu here yesterday.


The policemen, both 25, were part of the security forces' team that entered into the village in an eight-hour operation that started at 8pm yesterday.

Both are reported to be in stable condition and have been warded at the Duchess of Kent Hospital in Sandakan.

Sabah police commissioner Datuk Hamza Taib said one policeman was injured at his thigh, while another at his ankle during a skirmish with the armed intruders.

"The policemen were injured after they were shot at last night.

"During the operations, members of the security forces reported intermittent gun fire," he said at a press conference to update on Ops Tanduo at Felda Sahabat here today.

Hamza said that such action by the terrorists in engaging first at our security forces showed that they were not comitted to a said ceasefire.

He added that authorities will continue with the operations.

Hamza also revealed that as of today 85 suspects have been detained in connection with the Lahad Datu incident under the Security Offences (Special Measures) Act 2012 , together with Section 130 © of the Penal Code.

"In addition to that 66 others have also been detained for illegally entering or trespassing within the Ops Daulat operational area," he said.

On another matter, Hamza said the situation in Lahad Datu is improving.

He also urged the public not to speculate on the on-going operation and to relay any information to the police.

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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 09:43 PM)
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QUOTE(myhn @ Mar 7 2013, 09:45 PM)
wwaaahhhh rumah baru !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 09:45 PM)
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 09:45 PM)
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Wahh! v10 terus, takder link tered baru pun kat v9 .. tercari cari aku shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(newbi3s @ Mar 7 2013, 09:45 PM)
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Sampai hati hang tamau aku jat sini
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 09:46 PM)
Inche tak faham ka tadi ramai2 kata tu videi dari mexico
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page 3 already, but still chitchatting. every new version always like that. lambat warm-up.

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QUOTE(violette @ Mar 7 2013, 09:49 PM)
x dpt tgk pun dat video.  cry.gif  pasal ape ek video tu?
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QUOTE(violette @ Mar 7 2013, 09:49 PM)
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QUOTE(lagenda @ Mar 7 2013, 09:51 PM)
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 7 2013, 09:50 PM)
about Mexican Cartel dismember their "main kayu tiga" ahli  nod.gif
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WHAT?!??!? IKEA MEATBALLS RM2?!??!? so niceeeee

WHAT?!?!!? we are going on a killing spree? despite them offer ceasefire? now thats wierd.
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Travel advisories

Australia – The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has advised its citizens "against all travel to coastal areas of eastern Sabah, as well as nearby islands and dive sites" and that they should "exercise of a high degree of caution for other areas of Sabah." The Department added that they "continue to advise Australians to exercise normal safety precautions in Malaysia overall.

Canada – Canada advised its citizens to avoid travels to Eastern Sabah, especially to the towns of Lahad Datu, Kunak, Semporna and Tawau, as well as nearby islands and dive sites, including Sipadan. It urged its citizen already in the area to leave immediately as possible and monitor developments and comply with the orders of the local authorities.

New Zealand – The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade said that "there is high risk to [their citizens'] security in coastal areas and offshore Islands and dive sites remote from the main towns of eastern Sabah (from Kudat in the North and around the coast to Tawau)." The Ministry also advised against all tourist and other non-essential travel to these areas.

Taiwan (Republic of China) – The Ministry of Foreign Affairs raised the level of its travel warning to Sabah to "yellow" following the incident in the Malaysian state. A "yellow" travel warning reminds people to pay special attention to personal safety while travelling to affected areas and to reconsider any plans to travel to these areas. The Ministry said it will continue to keep a close watch on the development of the incident and will provide updated travel information for its citizens.

United Kingdom – The Foreign and Commonwealth Office advised its citizens "against all but essential travel to the area of Sabah running east along the coast from Lahad Datu to Sabah’s most easterly point and running south and east from a line joining Lahad Datu to Tawau through Kunak. This area includes Semporna and the islands immediately off the coast." It also advised "those currently in the region to consider leaving as soon as practicable and to follow the advice of the local police authorities."

United States – On 1 March, the Embassy of the United States in Kuala Lumpur stated that "U.S. citizens are advised to avoid the Lahad Datu area for the foreseeable future, and monitor media reports regarding possible continued violence."[89] On 4 March, a more detailed message included various precautions and advised against travel in "the coastal region extending from the eastern most tip of Sabah south to the border with Indonesia [including] the towns of Lahad Datu, Kunak, Semporna, and Tawau."

Germany – The Foreign Office issued a travel warning on 3 March, that raised the travel risk for the eastern districts of Sabah. Germany advised its citizens against "all non-absolute travel into the districts of Tawau, Semporna, Kunak, Lahad Datu, Kinabatangan and Sandakan."

Hong Kong – On 5 March, the Security Bureau issued a "yellow" travel warning that advised its nationals who were planning to go to Sabah and those who were already in Sabah to exercise caution and to monitor the situation. Hong Kong residents were also advised to avoid travelling to Lahad Datu, Kunak and Semporna.

Poland – On 4 March, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a travel warning for Malaysia "due to “civil unrest and the continuing high level of terrorist threat in the eastern part of the state of Sabah on the island of Borneo, including areas of localities of Lahad Datu and Semporna”.

Singapore – The Ministry of Foreign Affairs advised Singaporeans going to eastern Sabah to "comply with the advice of Malaysian security authorities, keep themselves informed about the situation through local news and avoid travel to Lahad Datu, Kunak and Semporna."


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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 09:53 PM)
Menggambarkan detik2 indah geng dadah potong jari satu2.
Sumbat lam mulut mamat yg dipotong tu.
Then last sekali sembelih.
Mexico.

Tak perlu tau actually
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not sure about you all.. but i kinda like the way our PM handle this wipe out.. jet bombing, then mortar bombing.. is like a child dream comes true.. no give face one.. kakakak
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QUOTE(edmunz @ Mar 7 2013, 09:55 PM)
not sure about you all.. but i kinda like the way our PM handle this wipe out.. jet bombing, then mortar bombing.. is like a child dream comes true.. no give face one.. kakakak
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Mana Cina and India??
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QUOTE(violette @ Mar 7 2013, 09:51 PM)
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My dad in KK just sent me info regarding the 6 policeman in Semporna. Confirming the police statement earlier today.

One of them beheaded and kena cincang. One brain taken out. Really feel sorry for the fallen heroes' family.
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QUOTE(GaretJenna @ Mar 7 2013, 09:54 PM)
WHAT?!??!? IKEA MEATBALLS RM2?!??!? so niceeeee

WHAT?!?!!? we are going on a killing spree? despite them offer ceasefire? now thats wierd.
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they offer ceas fire, but refuse to put down their weapon / surrender unconditionally? do we hav to layan request like that? doh.gif
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QUOTE(SteamieHP @ Mar 7 2013, 09:58 PM)
My dad in KK just sent me info regarding the 6 policeman in Semporna. Confirming the police statement earlier today.

One of them beheaded and kena cincang. One brain taken out. Really feel sorry for the fallen heroes' family.
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i believe everyone in dis tered know abt tis adi...no need to disclose liao...kesian si mati...
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If not muslims then it should be 8.
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Keh3 kemarin aku pi 515 ada la budak2 tu kena suruh ngan stap kacau aku..
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Philippines President Aquino in a bind over Sabah crisis



Justice department reviewing legality of claims

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Manila: Philippine president Benigno Aquino has been doing a balancing act in handling the violence that has ensued following the occupation by more than 200 followers of a Filipino Sultan who occupied a village in Sabah, observers said.


“The government cannot be forced to take a stand with the crisis ongoing,” said Philippine Justice Secretary Leila de Lima. “Negotiations on the Saba claim are possible [only] if the crisis there is over. It’s impossible to hold talks while there’s an ongoing crisis.”


The justice department has been reviewing the policies of previous presidents about the legality of the claims by the Sultanate of Sulu and the Philippine government over Sabah. “Hopefully, this will be used as guide to peacefully resolve the Sabah conflict,” said the justice secretary.


But Aquino has been criticised for allegedly not expressing concern for members of the Royal Sultanate of Sulu, led by Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, who have been targeted by full ground and air operations by Malaysian forces in Tanduao village since last week. Aquino has also been accused of not making an independent foreign affairs policy with Malaysia and for not protecting the Philippines’ claim over Sabah, which began in the early 1960s.

“If the president wants a peaceful solution to the Sabah crisis, he should have made a stronger move with the Malaysian leaders,” said Rene Sta. Cruz, a broadcast journalist, on his television programme.


There are several reasons why Aquino has been in a bind. He could not countenance a non-government initiative that was unilaterally done by Kiram’s group and he is limited to diplomatic engagement with Malaysia, a fellow member of the Philippines in the 10-state Association of South-east Asian Nations (Asean) and also the peace broker (since 2004) in the ongoing peace settlement being forged by the Philippine government and the formerly secessionist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (Milf).


As a result, Aquino could not match the strategic moves made by Philippine government officials in pushing for the Sabah claim since the early 60s, observed a professor of the University of the Philippines who requested anonymity.


In 1962, Sultan Esmail Kiram (born 1907), who held the position from 1947 to 1973, granted the Philippine government the right to claim Sabah. In response, former Philippine president Diosdado Macapagal filed the Philippine government’s claim at the United Nations.


On July 31, 1963, presidents Tunku Abdul Rahman of Malaysia, Macapagal and Suharto of Indonesia held talks and signed the Manila Accord, which granted respect for “the claim of the Philippines over Sabah, even if Sabah had been included in the Federation of Malaysia”.


Even earlier, from January 28, 1963 to February 1, 1963, a Philippine delegation led by former vice president Emmanuel Pelaez, who was also foreign affairs secretary, joined the so-called London Talks and presented to the British delegation the historical and legal claim of the Philippines over Sabah.


But the United Kingdom decided to give up North Borneo, after it was turned over by the British North Borneo Company to the Federation of Malaysia, in favour of Malaysia’s independence. Results of the UN’s Malaysia Mission firmed up the establishment of the Federation of Malaysia on September 16, 1963.

PNOY NEWS, LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE STILL DILUSSIONAL ON SABAH CLAIM. mad.gif


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Poland – On 4 March, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a travel warning for Malaysia "due to “civil unrest and the continuing high level of terrorist threat in the eastern part of the state of Sabah on the island of Borneo, including areas of localities of Lahad Datu and Semporna”.

hohooh dah kena chop terrorist. badass description there poland biggrin.gif

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FCO: We now advise against all but essential travel to eastern Sabah inc Sandakan, Lahad Datu and Tawau
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Kiram declares ceasefire = siok sendiri.
You declare means we have to follow ar?
No Ceasefire, either you surrender or suffer the consequences (personally i rather they dont surrender so that we can wipe them clean off Malaysian soil)
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Mar 7 2013, 10:06 PM)
But the United Kingdom decided to give up North Borneo, after it was turned over by the British North Borneo Company to the Federation of Malaysia, in favour of Malaysia’s independence. Results of the UN’s Malaysia Mission firmed up the establishment of the Federation of Malaysia on September 16, 1963.

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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 10:06 PM)
Last2 kena commando rest oleh stap tu balik sebab tak tanya aku
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MANILA: An official of the National Bureau of Investigation admitted sending its agents to the house of Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III.

NBI's Intelligence Services deputy director Reynaldo Esmeralda said it was a legitimate operation allowed by his office and that of Deputy Director Ruel Lasala on Special Investigation Services.

“The task of our people was to monitor the premises of the Kiram family,” Esmeralda said.

When asked why the agents posed as member of the media, he said “if there is difficulty of getting inside the Kiram residence, they will ask the help of the members of the media na kaibigan namin (who are our friends).”

Esmeralda said they were introduced to Mrs Kiram by TV5 reporter Carla Lim as NBI agents

“They were entertained by Mrs Kiram. They were even given refreshments,” he said.

In getting information, Esmeralda explained that they either do covert or open operations or a combination of both.

“Here, they only want to blend in with the crowd but they were introduced by Carla Lim as NBI agents.

"There was a misunderstanding on that aspect.
That was the fault on the part of our agents. After they were introduced as NBI agents, they should have given the Kirams their calling card or ID,” he said. - Philippine Daily Inquirer

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4834&sec=nation


shud read tis y'all.

pilak's agents masquerading as media and went into kirams house with TV reporter.

suddenly TV reporter go tell kiram the guys are agents.

epic phail for incompetent pilaks
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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:04 PM)
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yinchet u know wattodo..

Xploit Machine can do the same for Azimudi Kiram? he's the lead terrorist op invading sabah, deserved one too

nice poster btw, easy to recognize if the man break loose in any part of this country notworthy.gif
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jangan malukan perkataan sultan tu....nama dia anjing tiram.... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:09 PM)
comando rest lama tak kena.."good times"
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Damn. At the rate things are going, it's just a matter of time before we have our own version of dept of homeland security. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(monster795 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:08 PM)
abis kesian org2 yg bergantung pada industri pelancongan... entah sampai bila la travel advice ni akan ada...
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abis kesian org2 yg bergantung pada industri pelancongan... entah sampai bila la travel advice ni akan ada...
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Sampai dah xda SSA.
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 10:14 PM)
Aku paling tak suka fitiq. Hahaha.
Tapi time yu la bergaul dengan pkw pkw sekalian
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fitik jam 4.30 da kena bgn pagi,bb kena bgnkn stap
smlm lak kena blsh senior jam 1-2 pagi baru habis

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Mar 7 2013, 10:16 PM)
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jangan malukan perkataan sultan tu....nama dia anjing tiram.... icon_idea.gif
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wehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... aku da beli tiket p sabah!!!!!!!!!!!

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dean boleh pergi sana jual icecream dan air sejuk.
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Latest from the other side. Friendly and those wanting peace: http://www.philstar.com/nation/2013/03/07/...kirams-malaysia

ARMM exec bares backchannel efforts with Kirams, Malaysia
By John Unson (philstar.com) | Updated March 7, 2013 - 3:33pm

COTABATO CITY, Philippines --- Officials of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao on Wednesday night urged ARMM residents to help defuse the conflict in Sabah by refraining from posting hateful messages on social media networks.

“Instead of instigating war, we can post messages that will remind us that Islam does not allow war and use of violence in seeking redress. Let us remind people on the Islamic context of diplomatic dialogues and consensus-building in resolving conflicts,” ARMM Gov. Mujiv Hataman said in a prayer rally.

Hataman said the conflict in Sabah is only between the followers of sultan of Sulu Jamalul Kiram III, and the Malaysian armed forces.

“It’s not a war between Malaysia and the Bangsamoro people in Mindanao. It is not a war between Malaysia and the Philippines either,” Hataman said.

Hataman said the bloodshed in Sabah could have been averted had Kiram’s sibling, Ismael, pursued a meeting with Malaysian security authorities in Kuala Lumpur, which Malacañang repeatedly tried to facilitate, just before the Lahad Datu hostilities broke out.

“We already had an eight-seater jet that was to fly us to Malaysia, along with Ismael, after government emissaries, through the Western Mindanao Command managed to link up with him. But plans changed repeatedly until everything fizzled out [and] that was not because of us,” Hataman said.

Ismael was supposed to have a dialogue with top Malaysian security officials on the Lahad Datu standoff before the bloody confrontations between the sultan’s army and the Malaysian forces erupted.

Among those that Ismail was supposed to meet was Gen. Mohamad Zin Zulkifle, chief of the Malaysian Armed Forces and who was assigned in Mindanao from 2003 to 2004 as head of the pioneering mission of the Malaysian-led International Monitoring Team (IMT). The IMT helps enforce the ceasefire between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front.

“It is wrong to say that the government did nothing to prevent the hostilities in Sabah. President Benigno Aquino III, through emissaries, tried to...resolve the standoff peacefully, but we were overtaken by (events),” Hataman said.

Hataman revealed the details of Aquino’s backchannel efforts to resolve the problem during a prayer rally Wednesday night at the 32-hectare ARMM compound in Cotabato City, attended by hundreds of ARMM officials and employees.

Hataman, in a message, recalled that they agreed to accompany Ismael and other representatives to Malaysia on Friday night, Feb. 22, to begin talks for a peaceful resolution to the Lahad Datu standoff.

But after talking to his older brother, the sultan, Ismael changed his mind, according to Hataman.

Ismael wanted the hold the meeting in Brunei or Singapore, but the Malaysian authorities preferred to hold the meeting in Kuala Lumpur or Sabah.

Hataman said the Malaysian government did not agree to a dialogue with the Kirams outside of Malaysia.

“Ismael balked from (the) dialogue with high Malaysian police and military officials after a talk with his older brother, the sultan,” Hataman said.

The peace rally began with a magrib or obligatory Islamic prayer during sunset, with ARMM employees praying while facing west, the direction of Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

ARMM officials who joined the rally said “tact and prudence” have to be exercised in posting comments on social media networks about the ongoing strife in Sabah.

“Personal views can be good, as personal reflections, but messages that tend to (incite the opposing camps) to continue fighting will not help,” said the ARMM’s executive secretary, lawyer Anwar Malang.

The ARMM’s local government secretary, lawyer Makmod Mending Jr., said they are also monitoring the security situation in Tawi-Tawi and Sulu through local officials.

The island provinces of Tawi-Tawi and Sulu, both component areas of ARMM, are home to members of Kiram’s army battling with Malaysian forces in Sabah.


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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 10:21 PM)
Fitik ialah jadi buruh. Hamba.
Apa suruh kena buat.

Aku ja yang sebut fitiq. Qalqalah qubro
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 7 2013, 10:21 PM)
wehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... aku da beli tiket p sabah!!!!!!!!!!!

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Must watch!!


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QUOTE(moochan @ Mar 7 2013, 10:10 PM)
yinchet u know wattodo..

Xploit Machine can do the same for Azimudi Kiram? he's the lead terrorist op invading sabah, deserved one too

nice poster btw, easy to recognize if the man break loose in any part of this country notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 10:23 PM)
Latest from the other side. Friendly and those wanting peace: http://www.philstar.com/nation/2013/03/07/...kirams-malaysia

ARMM exec bares backchannel efforts with Kirams, Malaysia
By John Unson (philstar.com)  | Updated March 7, 2013 - 3:33pm

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as long as tiram tuh tak menyerah, they can do all the talking and nothing will progress.

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rilek ah..ko pergi kk bkn LD or area2 merah tu
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Aikss.. That's old picture and probably fake compare to the old 60 yr+ ah tok wor  hmm.gif  doh.gif
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no .. its real, his right eye kinda melekat, i think his right eye cannot see .. nod.gif .. this is his raja muda Agbimuddin nod.gif

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QUOTE(PzGman @ Mar 7 2013, 10:12 PM)
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I'm quite pissed off with these pinoy shit medias. in the beginning they keep harping on studying sabah as part of pinoy la, malaysians are losing la, protect their people la, malaysians so bad la.

then when shit hits the fan, suddenly words like "terrorists" and all of these mindanao groups started their damage control, like misuari doesn't represent them la (which is untrue), kiram doesn't represent the sultan la (not true, ALL of them sanctioned him in their nov 2012 meeting, a month after the MILF-PH agreement by Msia), and all other bullshit that i couldn't be bothered to remember.

and later when suddenly kiram surfaces and safe, they'll start claiming shit again.


and what is worse, is that pinoys keep believing them like the sheep that they are. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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kau pegi sana wat pe

orang cuti2 malaysia ke sabah tak pegi lahad datu
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xpe la boleh kau tolong polis/atm ape yg patut
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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Mar 7 2013, 10:30 PM)
kau pegi sana wat pe

orang cuti2 malaysia ke sabah tak pegi lahad datu
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 7 2013, 10:29 PM)
I'm quite pissed off with these pinoy shit medias. in the beginning they keep harping on studying sabah as part of pinoy la, malaysians are losing la, protect their people la, malaysians so bad la.

then when shit hits the fan, suddenly words like "terrorists" and all of these mindanao groups started their damage control, like misuari doesn't represent them la (which is untrue), kiram doesn't represent the sultan la (not true, ALL of them sanctioned him in their nov 2012 meeting, a month after the MILF-PH agreement by Msia), and all other bullshit that i couldn't be bothered to remember.

and later when suddenly kiram surfaces and safe, they'll start claiming shit again.
and what is worse, is that pinoys keep believing them like the sheep that they are. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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tabloids... they just love cooking up stories and riled up their readers emotions. This is just business to them.
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 7 2013, 10:29 PM)
no .. its real, his right eye kinda melekat, i think his right eye cannot see ..  nod.gif  .. this is his raja muda Agbimuddin  nod.gif
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 7 2013, 10:29 PM)
I'm quite pissed off with these pinoy shit medias. in the beginning they keep harping on studying sabah as part of pinoy la, malaysians are losing la, protect their people la, malaysians so bad la.

then when shit hits the fan, suddenly words like "terrorists" and all of these mindanao groups started their damage control, like misuari doesn't represent them la (which is untrue), kiram doesn't represent the sultan la (not true, ALL of them sanctioned him in their nov 2012 meeting, a month after the MILF-PH agreement by Msia), and all other bullshit that i couldn't be bothered to remember.

and later when suddenly kiram surfaces and safe, they'll start claiming shit again.
and what is worse, is that pinoys keep believing them like the sheep that they are. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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later china come knocking their door again their attention will be over there.
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bro this is a pic of either haji musa or majid - both sulu soldiers said to be fighting between themselves

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SABAHKINI.NET menerima maklumat tidak rasmi daripada koresponden bahawa dua daripada 300 orang ketumbukan tentera 'Sultan Sulu' di Kampung Tanduwau, Tungku telah ditembak mati.

Bagaimanapun kata sumber itu lagi, kematian mereka bukan disebabkan tembakan pihak berkuasa Malaysia; sebaliknya bergaduh sesama sendiri kerana kehabisan bekalan makanan dan berselisih pendapat.

Kematian dua tentera itu akan menyebabkan keadaan tegang sebelum ini mungkin akan reda kerana sebahagian besar anggota tentera Sultan Sulu ingin pulang secara aman selagi diberikan ruang dan peluang oleh Kerajaan Malaysia.

Dua mangsa yang terbunuh dikenali sebagai Haji Musa dan Majid. Menurut Koresponden Sabahkini.net, beliau dan saksi lain mendengar antara enam hingga 10 bunyi tembakan; namun jumlah sebenar kematian dan kecederaan belum dapat disahkan.


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V8 pg 1 punya olang tua

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V8 pg 1 punya olang tua

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So which wan// pening liao  rclxub.gif
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To what?
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 10:31 PM)
To what. Tanya tak jawab.
Post sampai 2 kali
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Link to those pictures relating to the situation.
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this is the real agbimuddin.

can somebody post this on the 1st page? ive posted this too many times oledi

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'Invaders old and starving'
Group not seen as posing immediate threat to security of country
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 14:35
by Terence Fernandez
Location:
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Lahad Datu

WE HAVE RIGHTS: Agbimuddin (right) and an aide during a negotiation session
A BUNCH of old men with rusty rifles. This best describes the invaders of Felda Sahabat 17 in Kampung Tanduo, who have been holed up in the village near Lahad Datu since Feb 12.

Led by Crown Prince Agbimuddin Kiram, who is in his mid-60s, the 180-member group, which includes five women, is also starving because of a blockade by Malaysian security forces comprising the police, General Operations Force and the armed forces.

Agbimuddin is the brother of Jamalul Kiram, the Sultan of Sulu. Sources told The Malay Mail that more than half of the invaders were over 50-years-old and only armed with rifles — explaining the government’s stand that the invaders pose no immediate threat to national security.

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WE HAVE RIGHTS: Agbimuddin (right) and an aide during a negotiation session

http://www.mmail.com.my/story/invaders-old...-starving-48943


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Kiri ke kanan ~Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram, Sultan Jamalul Kiram
III, Sultan Bantilan Esmail Kiram II and (berdiri dari kiri) Datu
Alianapia Kiram, Datu Phugdal Kiram and Datu Baduruddin Kiram

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jamalul kiram 3?  hmm.gif
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Bising la kau. Haha..bhasa rashia time bebudak. biggrin.gif
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Aku paling tak suka fitiq. Hahaha.
Tapi time yu la bergaul dengan pkw pkw sekalian
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Siapa suruh masuk tentera
Sudah tahu cari penyakit
Lebih baik duduk di kanpung
Tanam ubi dan tanam jagung

Yang pertama tentera darat
Ramai orang yang tidak larat
Buat kerja yang berat berat
Belum pencen dah putus urat

Yang kedua tentera laut
Ramai orang yang naik semput
Harung ombak dan harung ribut
Jerung sedia buka mulut

Yang ketiga tentera udara
Kerja melayang di angkasa
Terbang sini dan terbang sana
Silap langkah hai pendek nyawa..


Lagu pt lari.. hehehe
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 10:44 PM)
Flood warning?
Wait what?
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Let's not get into it. I forgot the term.
Pictures of Lahad Datu incident and such. Either normal shot or graphic (blood, gore or what not).
Clear enough? Thanks.
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Dat wan so fames liao.. you can just go any news either in M'sia or Pnoy also got liao..  biggrin.gif
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hw can prince and sultan like same age rclxub.gif

www.rumahbicarasulu.com cool.gif

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walao.. can't catch up with this thread so fast..
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Just curious, at first MNLF said will join Sulu's army, now they are back off?
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imageforum afp got a collection of nice pictures if anyone wanna look.
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hw can prince and sultan like same age  rclxub.gif

www.rumahbicarasulu.com  cool.gif
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bro there are a lot of kirams

this website not jamalul kiram III website

1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers

2. muedzul lail tan kiram

3. fuad kiram

these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye

read here
http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

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Just curious, at first MNLF said will join Sulu's army, now they are back off?
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probably changed their mind when they saw..

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reposting from last thread.
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better version abit...
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Apa ni.
Mana ada.
Gore2 pulak.
Adoi la.
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Can't I have a polite answer bro? I'm just asking for pictures albeit more specific if it happens to exist.
Normal pictures? Do you have links to those then since you said there's no gory photos?
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QUOTE(HuorEarfalas @ Mar 7 2013, 10:55 PM)
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baca ni

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/newsindex.php?id=932858
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:57 PM)
bro there are a lot of kirams

this website not jamalul kiram III website

1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers

2. muedzul lail tan kiram

3. fuad kiram

these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye

read here
http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/
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but in www.rumahbicarasulu.com the Tuanku Sultan Mudarasulail Alasatam Kiram said those are pirates and not blood related to the original Sulu Sultan hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 7 2013, 10:59 PM)
but in www.rumahbicarasulu.com the Tuanku Sultan Mudarasulail Alasatam Kiram said those are pirates and not blood related to the original Sulu Sultan  hmm.gif
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even if they are original, if they wanna take it by doing terrorist shits, they are no different from pirates.
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so full of win hahah
put it on those nationalist pinoy facebook
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MALAYSIA, Tanduo : TOPSHOTS
This handout picture from Malaysia's Ministry of Defence taken on March 6, 2013 purportedly shows a dead gunmen from the Philippines on the ground after clashes in the village of Tanduo in Malaysia's Sabah state. Malaysia on March 6 expanded its hunt for armed Filipino invaders who dodged a military assault meant to crush them, as a Philippine guerrilla said more Islamic fighters had arrived. AFP PHOTO / Malaysia Ministry of Defence

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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 7 2013, 10:55 PM)
Golek turun bukit mau?
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Tak mau dah.. abis hijau kuning cokelat sume tubik kluar. Pastu kompem stap nak jln atas perut punyer. Ubat buang angin katanyer, bagi badan segar sikit. Mase tue antara sulu ngan stap, rase nak tumbuk stap dulu ahaks...
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QUOTE(pandah @ Mar 7 2013, 11:01 PM)
even if they are original, if they wanna take it by doing terrorist shits, they are no different from pirates.
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read properly in there, the so called "original" sultan already mentioned they have no and cannot claim sabah from malaysia already since the first sultan sulu already signed-off the state nod.gif

read the KRISIS SABAH section

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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Mar 7 2013, 10:58 PM)
A shorter version but abit diff from what reported by Bernama hmm.gif

http://www.philstar.com/nation/2013/03/07/...statement-sabah

They did not mention the condemnation of the MNLF current chief against Nur Misuari hmm.gif
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but in www.rumahbicarasulu.com the Tuanku Sultan Mudarasulail Alasatam Kiram said those are pirates and not blood related to the original Sulu Sultan  hmm.gif
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bro every kiram will say he is sultan and the others pirates

read this muedzul lail tan kiram - oso said same thing

http://www.fakesulusultans.com/


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bro there are a lot of kirams

this website not jamalul kiram III website

1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers

2. muedzul lail tan kiram

3. fuad kiram

these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye

read here
http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/
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there are 9. all 9 of them have their own versions of who's eligible and who's not
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Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in the filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...

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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 7 2013, 10:44 PM)
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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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no more updates from the kiram spokesperson? did we miss our targets again? did their people escaped to sarawak already? did their invisibility tangkals work?
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QUOTE(westcoastbay @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
i see pnoy gov is doing their job

this is a new chart

probably as what was reported, because aquino has instructed presidential office to research on sabah claim
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QUOTE(westcoastbay @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Wow thanks.. yinchet should add this on pg 1.. seems like the so called Sultan Jamalul is not even recognized by Pnoy govt. The rightful one although yet to be crowned should be Datu Muadzul Lai Tan Kiram

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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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U should be composer man! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 7 2013, 11:16 PM)
no more updates from the kiram spokesperson? did we miss our targets again? did their people escaped to sarawak already? did their invisibility tangkals work?
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theyre relaxing - MY just bomb MY armies oni
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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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aku tengok dia macam senyum jer .. kalau nak bertindak tu pun mesti dia tak benar jurugambar berdiri kat situ .. ingat ni Syria ke jurugambar kita terlalu berani  tongue.gif
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bagi la abg askar kita glamer sket... mad.gif

QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 7 2013, 11:16 PM)
no more updates from the kiram spokesperson? did we miss our targets again? did their people escaped to sarawak already? did their invisibility tangkals work?
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:17 PM)
Wow thanks.. yinchet should add this on pg 1.. seems like the so called Sultan Jamalul is not even recognized by Pnoy govt. The rightful one although yet to be crowned should be Datu Muadzul Lai Tan Kiram

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haha you see the name on the right? MARIAM KIRAM
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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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she said bought in petaling street, oh waiiiiii
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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiirammmmmmmm
mad mann.........

ayam so going to post in on fb!
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QUOTE(carbine @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
Are u ready kid? I cant hear u...

Who live in the filipin under the tree?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who live in filipin greed on money?
Kiiiiiiram mad man..

Who said no money but daughter wear LV?
Kiiiiram mad man...
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 7 2013, 11:21 PM)
Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiirammmmmmmm
mad mann.........

ayam so going to post in on fb!
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me too biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:19 PM)
haha you see the name on the right? MARIAM KIRAM
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Sulu people want to ceasefire but don't want to surrender their firearms?
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 7 2013, 11:21 PM)
Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiirammmmmmmm
mad mann.........

ayam so going to post in on fb!
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:17 PM)
Wow thanks.. yinchet should add this on pg 1.. seems like the so called Sultan Jamalul is not even recognized by Pnoy govt. The rightful one although yet to be crowned should be Datu Muadzul Lai Tan Kiram

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Does Philipines give $$$ to the Kiram family every year??
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Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiiram mad man...
Kiiiirammmmmmmm
mad mann.........

ayam so going to post in on fb!
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Thanks for finishing the song.. ahaks..

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cease fire my ass. a chance had been given for peaceful solution . sekarang takut. VAT 69
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Does Philipines give $$$ to the Kiram family every year??
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NO bcos no such agreement. We kena bcos the British court of North Borneo said so in the 30's.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:17 PM)
Wow thanks.. yinchet should add this on pg 1.. seems like the so called Sultan Jamalul is not even recognized by Pnoy govt. The rightful one although yet to be crowned should be Datu Muadzul Lai Tan Kiram

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it's actually THE RIGHTFUL ONE RECOGNIZED BY THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT OF PHILIPPINE.

like during marcos time, he "chose" a person to be recognized by his government. aquino haven't officially recognized one, yet. It's related to this piece of news.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/368891/friend...to-marcos-years

"MANILA, Philippines – The friendship between former national security adviser Norberto Gonzales and Sulu Sultan Jamalul III dates back to the time of the Marcos regime, a former police intelligence officer told Radyo INQUIRER 990 AM on Tuesday.
Gonzales served during the administration of former President now Pampanga Representative Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
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Only in the Philippines you can be on a military watch-list at one time, and suddenly become a national security adviser in the next. rolleyes.gif
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Bumping this.. Good link article - MUST READ .. yinchet probably should put this on pg1

QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:57 PM)
bro there are a lot of kirams

this website not jamalul kiram III website

1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers

2. muedzul lail tan kiram

3. fuad kiram

these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye

read here
http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 7 2013, 11:27 PM)
it's actually THE RIGHTFUL ONE RECOGNIZED BY THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT OF PHILIPPINE.

like during marcos time, he "chose" a person to be recognized by his government. aquino haven't officially recognized one, yet. It's related to this piece of news.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/368891/friend...to-marcos-years
fuad claims he had arroyo macapagals backing

on the basis that arroyo had invited him to a state dinner, and not the other kirams... retard...



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fuad claims he had arroyo macapagals backing

on the basis that arroyo had invited him to a state dinner, and not the other kirams... retard...
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confuse already ,... everybody said there are the right sultan ...

if u have internal affair , just keep it in the family la ...

no need to bring to others people 's turf ...


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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 7 2013, 11:35 PM)
confuse already ,... everybody said there are the right sultan ...

if u have internal affair , just keep it in the family la ...

no need to bring to others people 's turf ...
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:32 PM)
fuad claims he had arroyo macapagals backing

on the basis that arroyo had invited him to a state dinner, and not the other kirams... retard...
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Funny thing is we pay the yearly cessation money to him based on the link article you posted earlier hmm.gif


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pilak fuad claiming hes sultan just because he was invited for reception of bolkiah by arroyo, and he talked to bolkiah

shit... i think a LOT of people at the reception talked to bolkiah - dancers, waitresses - didnt mean theyre sultans

palui ba pilak

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Philippine Government also recognizes Fuad Kiram
The Government of the Philippines (GPH) has also recognized Sultan Fuad Kiram, 1st as the Sultan of Sulu and Sabah.

As a manifestation, when His Majesty Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei made a state visit in Manila and was accorded a grand reception in Malacañang by then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo on January 30, 2009,

Sultan Fuad Kiram was invited— to the exclusion of other claimants. There he had a conversation with his counsin Sultan Bolkiah.


Recovery of Sabah from Malaysia
Sultan Fuad Kiram said the recovery of Sabah from Malaysia is the central policy of the Tausug Sultanate of Sulu for the benefit of his people.

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/...ace-on-standoff

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Funny thing is we pay the yearly cessation money to him based on the link article you posted earlier  hmm.gif
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we pay because of high court of north borneo decision by cfc macaskie

cfc macaskie ask to pay to 9 heirs

but logically - when the 9 heirs are dead - shud we continue pay to the heirs of the 9 heirs? isnt that - a LOT OF HEIRS?

its mischief in law aint it?

the 9 heirs are dead now

i think the gov are only paying as TOKEN, and not cession money. thats why in the letter it says "cession money" with ""

if its token i say stop it already

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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:45 PM)
we pay because of high court of north borneo decision by cfc macaskie

cfc macaskie ask to pay to 9 heirs

but logically - when the 9 heirs are dead - shud we continue pay to the heirs of the 9 heirs? isnt that - a LOT OF HEIRS?

its mischief in law aint it?

the 9 heirs are dead now
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No what I mean is we are paying that Fuad guy only hmm.gif

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Based on the article here: http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

Why we dun pay to the rightful one?

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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:43 PM)
pilak fuad claiming hes sultan just because he was invited for reception of bolkiah by arroyo, and he talked to bolkiah

shit... i think a LOT of people at the reception talked to bolkiah - dancers, waitresses - didnt mean theyre sultans

palui ba pilak
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he also support this kiram III invade sabah ??
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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 7 2013, 11:35 PM)
confuse already ,... everybody said there are the right sultan ...

if u have internal affair , just keep it in the family la ...

no need to bring to others people 's turf ...
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actually internal feuds are common among royalties. God knows we have our own shares of dumb feuds as well. it's all about power and control.

but the main difference between us and them, is that while their "kingdom" is poor, all of them want control of two things:

1. the "royal" army. this is their 2nd biggest chest piece, that can help them control a "potential" 21 million people in Mindanao. with the army, they can sought control of

2. mindanao's mineral resource. mindanao's natural resource is HUGE. like we have oil, south thai got batu kapur, indon got coal, they have gold, food, plantation, iron ore, zinc.

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It grows most of the Philippines' major crops such as rubber (100% of national production), pineapple (91%), cacao (90%) as well as banana, coffee, corn and coconut (over 50%). The island also produces exotic fruits like pomelo, mangosteen and durian.
Mindanao is likewise endowed with rich mineral resources. Its metallic deposits include lead, zinc, ore, iron, copper, chromite, magnetite and gold. Gold mined in Mindanao accounts for nearly half of the national gold reserves. Its non-metallic mineral resources include marble, salt, sand, gravel, silica, clay, and limestone.
http://www.medco.gov.ph/medcoweb/mindanao.asp

These "royalties" would often offer land to unsuspecting people, as they claim that they can issue land deeds without approval by the govt there.
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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM)
he also support this kiram III invade sabah ??
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he support sabah claim by negotiation

not by war
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liddat i oso wan go brunei la .. meet him talk talk n i can be sultan biggrin.gif
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I took my skrol from sultan.
Spoke to me where you from?
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liddat i oso wan go brunei la .. meet him talk talk n i can be sultan biggrin.gif
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i want to follow also ... I also want to try take some land when i already a "sultan".... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM)
No what I mean is we are paying that Fuad guy only  hmm.gif

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Based on the article here: http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

Why we dun pay to the rightful one?
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if im not wrong...this orang sulu seek help from UN to stop malaysia from attacking them ....HAHAHAHAHAHA

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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM)
No what I mean is we are paying that Fuad guy only  hmm.gif

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Based on the article here: http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

Why we dun pay to the rightful one?
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if you read the comments in the article,

the money was not paid to fuad alone. the money was paid to a lawyer -ALKY ULLAMA - and ullama paid to 9 heirs

so the letter is actually to tell fuad "hey sulu, go collect your money from your lawyer"
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:50 PM)
if you read the comments in the article,

the money was not paid to fuad alone. the money was paid to a lawyer -ALKY ULLAMA - and ullama paid to 9 heirs

so the letter is actually to tell fuad "hey sulu, go collect your money from your lawyer"
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stimix mana-mana yang kenal geologists, or miners boleh confirm what i wrote about mindanao kalau tak percaya

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NO bcos no such agreement. We kena bcos the British court of North Borneo said so in the 30's.
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icic... then MY just continue the payment as per agreement to Kiram family
By right, no issue... isn't it?

If the payment is too low, then Kiram family have to work like a common people or ask their follower to give Kiram family 10% of the follower salary...
Kiram follower can also go to Sabah to become tour guide in KK/Sipadan to earn $$$ and send some $$$ to the Kiram family
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everyone can say they are sultan, this shit should stop.

if really got pay money, find a way to stop it.
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read about the macaskie judgment

Macaskie
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summore in 2008, it was reported that some of the heirs want to abolish their claim

but hes asking for USD 20Billion... told y'all these pilaks are crazy people

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Thursday July 17, 2008
Sulu ‘royal’ family drops claim


By RUBEN SARIO
newsdesk@thestar.com.my

KOTA KINABALU: In an about-turn, the nine heirs to the Sulu Sultanate are dropping their claim on Sabah.

Individuals claiming to represent the “royal” family said they were now willing to surrender their rights to the state.

The nine “heirs” of the sultanate have been receiving a total annual “cession payment” of RM5,300 from the government since before independence.

Datu Omar Ali Datu Backtiyal told a local newspaper here that he had obtained the signatures of the nine heirs of the late Sultan Mohamat Jamal Al Alam agreeing to relinquish their claim last year.

He was now waiting for the Malaysian Government's response.

He said the nine heirs were among those named in a 1930s civil suit presided by the then Chief Justice of North Borneo CFC Macaskie. (Dayang Hadji Piandao Kiram of Jolo, Philippines and Eight Others vs the Government of North Borneo).

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1951&sec=courts
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They sure jelly seeing kings in malaysia. Live so lavish n girls damn hot.

No wonder they go wonkers.
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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Mar 8 2013, 12:00 AM)
mungkin nenek moyang kau

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If the payment is too low, then Kiram family have to work like a common people or ask their follower to give Kiram family 10% of the follower salary...
Kiram follower can also go to Sabah to become tour guide in KK/Sipadan to earn $$$ and send some $$$ to the Kiram family
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the payment IS low... thats why these sultans are poor fags...

these sulus claimed they owned sabah last time, when they are only coastal dwellers. inland natives like dusun didnt lay such claim. when sabah was only a jungle with natives that the sulus didnt want to meet, sulus thought they dont have any use of it, so they so-called "leased" it "in perpetuity" to the brits.

payment was USD5,000.

payment now is RM5,300 after macaskie judgment - to be divided to 9 heirs = these kirams are fighting for scraps
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 8 2013, 12:03 AM)
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They sure jelly seeing kings in malaysia. Live so lavish n girls damn hot.

No wonder they go wonkers.
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and malaysian kings jealous of brunei
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and malaysian kings jealous of brunei
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I don't have much knowledge about Brunei, but heard that Sultan Brunei are very kind hearted to Brunei people.
We know there are Sultan in Thailand and heard he also care for Thai peoples
Are there sultan in Indonesia??

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I don't have much knowledge about Brunei, but heard that Sultan Brunei are very kind hearted to Brunei people.
We know there are Sultan in Thailand and heard he also care for Thai peoples
Are there sultan in Indonesia??
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Easy to be kind hearted when your planes toilet is gold plated haha.

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I don't have much knowledge about Brunei, but heard that Sultan Brunei are very kind hearted to Brunei people.
We know there are Sultan in Thailand and heard he also care for Thai peoples
Are there sultan in Indonesia??
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actually indonesia was claiming sipadan-ligitan because they claim those islands were under the sultanate of balingian or sumthing...

but i think sultans in indonesia now are like sultans in pnoy... clans without authority living in a republic
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I don't have much knowledge about Brunei, but heard that Sultan Brunei are very kind hearted to Brunei people.
We know there are Sultan in Thailand and heard he also care for Thai peoples
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Siam got sultan eh? rclxub.gif .. but Indon got, certain parts

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the payment IS low... thats why these sultans are poor fags...

these sulus claimed they owned sabah last time, when they are only coastal dwellers. inland natives like dusun didnt lay such claim. when sabah was only a jungle with natives that the sulus didnt want to meet, sulus thought they dont have any use of it, so they so-called "leased" it "in perpetuity" to the brits.

payment was USD5,000.

payment now is RM5,300 after macaskie judgment - to be divided to 9 heirs = these kirams are fighting for scraps
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9 people share 5300?

mampos lah dia orang.

anyway the kingdom mampos already still wanna claim here claim there.
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DUA KOMANDO POLIS CEDERA TERIMA RAWATAN SUSULAN DI IPOH

IPOH, 7 Mac - Dua perwira negara yang cedera akibat insiden
tembakan dengan penceroboh bersenjata di Kampung Tanduo, Sabah, Sabtu lalu diterbangkan ke sini, hari ini bagi menjalani rawatan susulan.

Koperal Mohd Tarmizi Hashim, 32, dan Koperal Azman Ampong, 39, yang merupakan anggota Komando VAT 69 tiba dengan pesawat Cessna Caravan 208 dari Pangkalan Udara Sungai Besi, di hangar Pangkalan Latihan Unit Udara Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM), di sini pada 5.30 petang.

Kedua-dua anggota Komando itu diterbangkan dari Lahad Datu, Sabah pada 8 pagi tadi dengan pesawat King Air PDRM ke Sungai Besi.

Sebelum ini, kedua-dua mereka menerima rawatan di Hospital Lahad Datu selepas masing-masing cedera di bahu kanan dan kaki serta bahagian punggung dan paha akibat ditembak penceroboh bersenjata dalam insiden berkenaan.

Sebaik mendarat, mereka dikejarkan dengan ambulans untuk dibawa ke Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun di sini bagi rawatan susulan.


I think we overlooked this update today
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DUA KOMANDO POLIS CEDERA TERIMA RAWATAN SUSULAN DI IPOH

IPOH, 7 Mac - Dua perwira negara yang cedera akibat insiden
tembakan dengan penceroboh bersenjata di Kampung Tanduo, Sabah, Sabtu lalu diterbangkan ke sini, hari ini bagi menjalani rawatan susulan.

Koperal Mohd Tarmizi Hashim, 32, dan Koperal Azman Ampong, 39, yang merupakan anggota Komando VAT 69 tiba dengan pesawat Cessna Caravan 208 dari Pangkalan Udara Sungai Besi, di hangar Pangkalan Latihan Unit Udara Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM), di sini pada 5.30 petang.

Kedua-dua anggota Komando itu diterbangkan dari Lahad Datu, Sabah pada 8 pagi tadi dengan pesawat King Air PDRM ke Sungai Besi.

Sebelum ini, kedua-dua mereka menerima rawatan di Hospital Lahad Datu selepas masing-masing cedera di bahu kanan dan kaki serta bahagian punggung dan paha akibat ditembak penceroboh bersenjata dalam insiden berkenaan.

Sebaik mendarat, mereka dikejarkan dengan ambulans untuk dibawa ke Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun di sini bagi rawatan susulan.
I think we overlooked this update today
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the payment IS low... thats why these sultans are poor fags...

these sulus claimed they owned sabah last time, when they are only coastal dwellers. inland natives like dusun didnt lay such claim. when sabah was only a jungle with natives that the sulus didnt want to meet, sulus thought they dont have any use of it, so they so-called "leased" it "in perpetuity" to the brits.

payment was USD5,000.

payment now is RM5,300 after macaskie judgment - to be divided to 9 heirs = these kirams are fighting for scraps
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Btw, RM 5,300 is paid every month or per year?

Pity the Sultan in Philipines... Somemore the RM deteriorate as now 1 SGD = 2.5 MYR
RM 5,300 / 9 heirs = Each heirs got RM 589 or SGD 235 (Maybe can bring heir + partner + 1 kid to Universal Studio in Singapore)

Can't we just put Tank along the coast and tell Kiram family to stop the invasion and enjoy their free RM 5,300
Every national day, we showcast so many weaponary... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(pandah @ Mar 8 2013, 12:12 AM)
9 people share 5300?

mampos lah dia orang.

anyway the kingdom mampos already still wanna claim here claim there.
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probably was a big amount when macaskie delivered the judgment

definitely a big amount when the grant was signed in 1878

but still to fight over scraps like hyenas - must be too stupid or too desperate
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I don't have much knowledge about Brunei, but heard that Sultan Brunei are very kind hearted to Brunei people.
We know there are Sultan in Thailand and heard he also care for Thai peoples
Are there sultan in Indonesia??
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Got i.e. Yogyakarta Sultanate.
No real power, but some are still highly influential.
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I dont know how long their can hold their position, our force really use fully tatctical sop force i think, and their only move as guerella, i doubt guerella move vs tatical force, bcz their already know we have alot exp to fight gurella
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Easy to be kind hearted when your planes toilet is gold plated haha.
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Mar 8 2013, 12:15 AM)
Btw, RM 5,300 is paid every month or per year?

Pity the Sultan in Philipines... Somemore the RM deteriorate as now 1 SGD = 2.5 MYR
RM 5,300 / 9 heirs = Each heirs got RM 589 or SGD 235 (Maybe can bring heir + partner + 1 kid to Universal Studio in Singapore)

Can't we just put Tank along the coast and tell Kiram family to stop the invasion and enjoy their free RM 5,300
Every national day, we showcast so many weaponary...  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i think i read somewhere the fuads payment was stopped in 2004 because his title was stripped or something... by muedzul lail tan if im not mistaken...

ive already said in the earlier threads, that if this were to happen to israel, they would have sent mossad assassins to kill the delusional bastards
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Got i.e. Yogyakarta Sultanate.
No real power, but some are still highly influential.
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these sultans still have some following... and run for a political position...

jamalul kiram III the blind pirate once ran for senator... and lost...
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'Invaders old and starving'
Group not seen as posing immediate threat to security of country
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 14:35
by Terence Fernandez
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Lahad Datu

WE HAVE RIGHTS: Agbimuddin (right) and an aide during a negotiation session
A BUNCH of old men with rusty rifles. This best describes the invaders of Felda Sahabat 17 in Kampung Tanduo, who have been holed up in the village near Lahad Datu since Feb 12.

Led by Crown Prince Agbimuddin Kiram, who is in his mid-60s, the 180-member group, which includes five women, is also starving because of a blockade by Malaysian security forces comprising the police, General Operations Force and the armed forces.

Agbimuddin is the brother of Jamalul Kiram, the Sultan of Sulu. Sources told The Malay Mail that more than half of the invaders were over 50-years-old and only armed with rifles — explaining the government’s stand that the invaders pose no immediate threat to national security.

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WE HAVE RIGHTS: Agbimuddin (right) and an aide during a negotiation session

http://www.mmail.com.my/story/invaders-old...-starving-48943


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Kiri ke kanan ~Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram, Sultan Jamalul Kiram
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Alianapia Kiram, Datu Phugdal Kiram and Datu Baduruddin Kiram

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SABAHKINI.NET menerima maklumat tidak rasmi daripada koresponden bahawa dua daripada 300 orang ketumbukan tentera 'Sultan Sulu' di Kampung Tanduwau, Tungku telah ditembak mati.

Bagaimanapun kata sumber itu lagi, kematian mereka bukan disebabkan tembakan pihak berkuasa Malaysia; sebaliknya bergaduh sesama sendiri kerana kehabisan bekalan makanan dan berselisih pendapat.

Kematian dua tentera itu akan menyebabkan keadaan tegang sebelum ini mungkin akan reda kerana sebahagian besar anggota tentera Sultan Sulu ingin pulang secara aman selagi diberikan ruang dan peluang oleh Kerajaan Malaysia.

Dua mangsa yang terbunuh dikenali sebagai Haji Musa dan Majid. Menurut Koresponden Sabahkini.net, beliau dan saksi lain mendengar antara enam hingga 10 bunyi tembakan; namun jumlah sebenar kematian dan kecederaan belum dapat disahkan.

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OH. MY. GOD.

few pages back someone posted this link
http://books.google.com.my/books?id=83BIxG...0ullama&f=false


Damn this book is such a good read. I'm few pages in it already, and at least author die nampak very unbiased.

damn man.... the creation of Malaysia by the British was a very strategic move by the old colonial powers man... semua country got butthurt by that biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:56 PM)
read about the macaskie judgment

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DUA KOMANDO POLIS CEDERA TERIMA RAWATAN SUSULAN DI IPOH

IPOH, 7 Mac - Dua perwira negara yang cedera akibat insiden
tembakan dengan penceroboh bersenjata di Kampung Tanduo, Sabah, Sabtu lalu diterbangkan ke sini, hari ini bagi menjalani rawatan susulan.

Koperal Mohd Tarmizi Hashim, 32, dan Koperal Azman Ampong, 39, yang merupakan anggota Komando VAT 69 tiba dengan pesawat Cessna Caravan 208 dari Pangkalan Udara Sungai Besi, di hangar Pangkalan Latihan Unit Udara Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM), di sini pada 5.30 petang.

Kedua-dua anggota Komando itu diterbangkan dari Lahad Datu, Sabah pada 8 pagi tadi dengan pesawat King Air PDRM ke Sungai Besi.

Sebelum ini, kedua-dua mereka menerima rawatan di Hospital Lahad Datu selepas masing-masing cedera di bahu kanan dan kaki serta bahagian punggung dan paha akibat ditembak penceroboh bersenjata dalam insiden berkenaan.

Sebaik mendarat, mereka dikejarkan dengan ambulans untuk dibawa ke Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun di sini bagi rawatan susulan.
I think we overlooked this update today
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what is it with our men getting shot in the ass? this is like the 2nd time already (and there are atleast 2 other incidents where police got shot in the ass months before this).

inb4 following anwar's footsteps.
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boss, can put the pic of agbimuddin kiram?
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OH. MY. GOD.

few pages back someone posted this link
http://books.google.com.my/books?id=83BIxG...0ullama&f=false
Damn this book is such a good read. I'm few pages in it already, and at least author die nampak very unbiased.

damn man.... the creation of Malaysia by the British was a very strategic move by the old colonial powers man... semua country got butthurt by that biggrin.gif
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it IS very very very strategic move

a country without volcano and earthquake

were the butt of jokes that time by indo, pnoy and probably thailand. a nation of weak race who were always conquered

but look where we at now - and where they are now
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boss, can put the pic of agbimuddin kiram?
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 8 2013, 12:23 AM)
OH. MY. GOD.

few pages back someone posted this link
http://books.google.com.my/books?id=83BIxG...0ullama&f=false
Damn this book is such a good read. I'm few pages in it already, and at least author die nampak very unbiased.

damn man.... the creation of Malaysia by the British was a very strategic move by the old colonial powers man... semua country got butthurt by that biggrin.gif
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got this link from the article... the andak one...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 8 2013, 12:24 AM)
what is it with our men getting shot in the ass? this is like the 2nd time already (and there are atleast 2 other incidents where police got shot in the ass months before this).

inb4 following anwar's footsteps.
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QUOTE(teoh123 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:29 AM)
off topic but is this real?

"Malaysia has quietly shown Singapore over how weak it security is. Malaysia has slapped the Singapore armed forces in ways that caused it to come unstuck. The most dramatic was when Malaysia's Commandos invaded Singapore high security air missiles base in Bukit Batok overlooking the Straits of Johore and pasted Malaysian stamps on the missiles and replaced the Singapore flag on the Commanding officer's table with the Malaysian flag. Several Singapire officers resigned oe were reassigned or demoted. The major who carried it out, who is known by his nickname, Sam , is still around and in the business"
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:27 AM)
got this link from the article... the andak one...
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tried to buy in amazon, but not available in asia pacific mad.gif mad.gif

takpe la, next few weeks I'll be going to France, so maybe I can get a hold of this book there.


For those who're too lazy to read, basically the Cobbold Commision that we have come to know, interviewed about 4000 (only?) Sabahans and Sarawakians and the majority of them favoured Malaysia than joining Indon and Pinoy. So pretty much all of us have these 4000 silent champions of Malaysia to thank for thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(teoh123 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:29 AM)
off topic but is this real?

"Malaysia has quietly shown Singapore over how weak it security is. Malaysia has slapped the Singapore armed forces in ways that caused it to come unstuck. The most dramatic was when Malaysia's Commandos invaded Singapore high security air missiles base in Bukit Batok overlooking the Straits of Johore and pasted Malaysian stamps on the missiles and replaced the Singapore flag on the Commanding officer's table with the Malaysian flag. Several Singapire officers resigned oe were reassigned or demoted. The major who carried it out, who is known by his nickname, Sam , is still around and in the business"
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no one will ever admit it
singapore admit -> malu sial
malaysia admit -> act of war

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QUOTE(teoh123 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:29 AM)
off topic but is this real?

"Malaysia has quietly shown Singapore over how weak it security is. Malaysia has slapped the Singapore armed forces in ways that caused it to come unstuck. The most dramatic was when Malaysia's Commandos invaded Singapore high security air missiles base in Bukit Batok overlooking the Straits of Johore and pasted Malaysian stamps on the missiles and replaced the Singapore flag on the Commanding officer's table with the Malaysian flag. Several Singapire officers resigned oe were reassigned or demoted. The major who carried it out, who is known by his nickname, Sam , is still around and in the business"
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i heard that from more than one source... source which are not related to each other... and i didnt notice this in the book
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 8 2013, 12:33 AM)
tried to buy in amazon, but not available in asia pacific  mad.gif  mad.gif

takpe la, next few weeks I'll be going to France, so maybe I can get a hold of this book there.
For those who're too lazy to read, basically the Cobbold Commision that we have come to know, interviewed about 4000 (only?) Sabahans and Sarawakians and the majority of them favoured Malaysia than joining Indon and Pinoy. So pretty much all of us have these 4000 silent champions of Malaysia to thank for  thumbup.gif
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4000 leaders, datu, temenggong, ketua kampung
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So this special security zone...

what does it means? Does the battalions sent to sabah will not go home for a while?
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:26 PM)
it IS very very very strategic move

a country without volcano and earthquake

were the butt of jokes that time by indo, pnoy and probably thailand. a nation of weak race who were always conquered

but look where we at now - and where they are now
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:36 AM)
So this special security zone...

what does it means? Does the battalions sent to sabah will not go home for a while?
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told y'all. dont hina the brits.

the SAS was actually us - malays, sabahans, sarawakians

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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:44 AM)
told y'all. dont hina the brits.

the SAS was actually us - malays, sabahans, sarawakians

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We really have exp to agains gerilla! So their really mess with wrong people?

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fitik jam 4.30 da kena bgn pagi,bb kena bgnkn stap
smlm lak kena blsh senior jam 1-2 pagi baru habis

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Mar 8 2013, 12:46 AM)
We really have exp to agains gerilla! So their really mess with wrong people?
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we... are actually the successor of a great military force. the child of a mighty king

you can come to kundasang war memorial and see for yourself
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QUOTE(nokhorom @ Mar 8 2013, 12:48 AM)
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:15 AM)
probably was a big amount when macaskie delivered the judgment

definitely a big amount when the grant was signed in 1878

but still to fight over scraps like hyenas - must be too stupid or too desperate
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I do agree that RM or USD 5000 is a lot of $$$ way back 1878 and just did a calculations..
Using an inflation of 5% per year, and RM 5000 since way back 1878, then the $$$ would be about RM 3.6 million in year 2013 hmm.gif hmm.gif


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Siam got sultan eh?  rclxub.gif  .. but Indon got, certain parts
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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Mar 8 2013, 12:46 AM)
We really have exp to agains gerilla! So their really mess with wrong people?
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we... are actually the successor of a great military force. the child of a mighty king

you can come to kundasang war memorial and see for yourself
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ini baru cerita pasal our land army history beb.

Few years back I had the opportunity to meet up with a historian who spoke with great lengths about our LEGENDARY "orang laut" involvement in the British Navy, which is also documented (and at least, verified by me) in articles that I've read in the London Library. It's like the Black Hawk Down history, but made into a different movie called......

Pirates of the Carribean shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 8 2013, 12:58 AM)
ini baru cerita pasal our land army history beb.

Few years back I had the opportunity to meet up with a historian who spoke with great lengths about our LEGENDARY "orang laut" involvement in the British Navy, which is also documented (and at least, verified by me) in articles that I've read in the London Library. It's like the Black Hawk Down history, but made into a different movie called......

Pirates of the Carribean  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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isnt orang laut = panglima awang = panglima hitam = PASKAL icon?

and oso everybody who loves military should go to the greenwich... its farking aweeeeeeeeeeesome... the pirates movie was shot there...

my fav movie = master & commander = best movie ever

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 8 2013, 12:58 AM)
ini baru cerita pasal our land army history beb.

Few years back I had the opportunity to meet up with a historian who spoke with great lengths about our LEGENDARY "orang laut" involvement in the British Navy, which is also documented (and at least, verified by me) in articles that I've read in the London Library. It's like the Black Hawk Down history, but made into a different movie called......

Pirates of the Carribean  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/

anyone interested in malayan involvement since 1700+

nice read.
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 01:00 AM)
isnt orang laut = panglima awang = panglima hitam = PASKAL icon?

and oso everybody who loves military should go to the greenwich... its farking aweeeeeeeeeeesome... the pirates movie was shot there...

my fav movie = master & commander = best movie ever
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If im not mistaken, brits called our navy black joe.. oso have hms malaya with malaya crest on ship hull in royal navy, dont know now still have or not..

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I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories.

By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims.

Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation.

Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid.

So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence.

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guys, invade the kiram website here http://sandakan.com/

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories.

By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims.

Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation.

Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid.

So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence.
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you guys have read about 'effectivites'?

we won sipadan-ligitan because of it, and lost pedra branca because of it also

somehow i think these delusional kirams thought they are performing 'effectivites' by landing at tanduo - like visiting their estate as what ive read in pnoy media

crazy
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories.

By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims.

Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation.

Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid.

So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence.
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strategic move by anifah. just that pilak gila del rosario tambirang, pulang pilipin dibilangnya 'terror act' seja
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories.

By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims.

Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation.

Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid.

So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories.

By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims.

Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation.

Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid.

So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence.
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correct me if i am wrong,through my reading, the agreement for the establishment of bangsamoro is between Philippines govt and MILF. MNLF was not consulted and included in the agreement so they feel ignored. MNLF is led by nurmisuari and MNLF supports the Kiram cause. It is MILF who said they are not supporting what Kiram is doing.
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 8 2013, 01:29 AM)
correct me if i am wrong,through my reading, the agreement for the establishment of bangsamoro is between Philippines govt and MILF. MNLF was not consulted and included in the agreement so they feel ignored. MNLF is led by nurmisuari and MNLF supports the Kiram cause. It is MILF who said they are not supporting what Kiram is doing.
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yes, the Bangsamoro signed with MILF, not MNLF. Bangsamoro is actually the future name of the autonomy - to replace ARMM. the race is still widely referred as Moro

MNLF is no longer led by misuari. MNLF now led by muslimin. misuari is only a normal council member after his arrest.

misuari is a nobody now but he wants to return to being a somebody

misuari (who backs jamalul and seen with fuad) went to see anwar, muedzul went to see kitingan - at le meridien kk

they all fight to see who have the greater clout

fuad better - claimed he talked with bolkiah

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 8 2013, 01:29 AM)
correct me if i am wrong,through my reading, the agreement for the establishment of bangsamoro is between Philippines govt and MILF. MNLF was not consulted and included in the agreement so they feel ignored. MNLF is led by nurmisuari and MNLF supports the Kiram cause. It is MILF who said they are not supporting what Kiram is doing.
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misuari is an ex-leader of mnlf...
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 01:32 AM)
MNLF is no longer led by misuari. MNLF now led by muslimin. misuari is only a normal council member after his arrest.

misuari is a nobody now but he wants to return to being a somebody
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thank you for the correction about nurmisuari. Through the negotiation of bangsamoro, MNLF was not consulted and this annoyed them.
only MILF involved during it. MILF has made the right move to distance themselves from MNLF tha supports Kiram.

however,i agree our Minister of Foreign Affairs has done a great job in physocological warfare against Kiram. He is a Sabahan,Boleh ba kalau kau laugh.gif

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 8 2013, 01:36 AM)
thank you for the correction about nurmisuari. Through the negotiation of bangsamoro, MNLF was not consulted and this annoyed them.
only MILF involved during it. MILF has made the right move to distance themselves from MNLF tha supports Kiram.

however,i agree our Minister of Foreign Affairs has done a great job in physocological warfare against Kiram. He is a Sabahan,Boleh ba kalau kau laugh.gif
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sekarang distance la bro. before this they still claim Sabah belongs to them. now?

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summore besides went to get photograph with MY politicians

misuari went to show his military clout. get photographed with militants, brandishing guns

muedzul doesnt have an army. so he got a group of youngsters with guns, and posed with them in a house, wearing fatigues

jamalul went one step further than both misuari and muedzul - he persuaded agbimuddin to 'visit' sabah with a small army

the army was described as made of ex-member of MNLF, abu sayyaf aint it? most probably ex-members who left to follow a certain, fallen leader - misuari

explains why misuari was at the PC at kirams house

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I think previously MNLF committee was using a wait and see approach and allowed Nur Misuari to engage the Kiram family. They were (Muslimin) pretty quiet about the whole thing and only Nur Misuari was the vocal advocate for the Kirams. I realised it was after the 'terrorist' label was given to the Suluk invaders and their supporters and its propagation in the foreign news network and government advisories did the committee realised what a mistake it was to actually support the Suluk group.

The MNLF are trying to be 'abang' for the Moro as their 'adik' MILF is already top dog at the moment being acknowledged and recognized by Malaysia and the Philipine. So the MNLF by supporting the Suluk initially, it would actually raise a lot of Sulu support for their own organization. But it back-fired of course so now they are doing damage control and suddenly releasing un-told stories of how they were in the back ground trying to negotiate/defuse tension etc. Previously habok pun tak nampak.

The posturing of the MNLF boasting large armies (10k), hidden weapons in Sabah, know-how of Malaysian army tactics, support of local populace etc. is all just to project an important/strong persona to recruit and also attract support to their cause and organization. They have to show that they still are an entity to be reckoned with. Even if they don't do a thing in Sabah, their posturing will sure to attract new recruits to their ranks from the Sulu people by 'pretending' to be the defender of the Sulu Sultanate. Doing this, they will then be considered as another entity 'worthy' of negotiating with.

The MILF armies are still very strong and has been 'given' a mandate to hunt down the Abu Sayyaf Group (ABG). This re-inforces their image as an enforcer for Bangsamoro. While the MNLF left out in the cold with nothing to show. Perhaps this was their way of trying to bolster their own image for the people in power to see.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:53 AM)
I think previously MNLF committee was using a wait and see approach and allowed Nur Misuari to engage the Kiram family. They were (Muslimin) pretty quiet about the whole thing and only Nur Misuari was the vocal advocate for the Kirams. I realised it was after the 'terrorist' label was given to the Suluk invaders and their supporters and its propagation in the foreign news network and government advisories did the committee realised what a mistake it was to actually support the Suluk group.

The MNLF are trying to be 'abang' for the Moro as their 'adik' MILF is already top dog at the moment being acknowledged and recognized by Malaysia and the Philipine. So the MNLF by supporting the Suluk initially, it would actually raise a lot of Sulu support for their own organization. But it back-fired of course so now they are doing damage control and suddenly releasing un-told stories of how they were in the back ground trying to negotiate/defuse tension etc. Previously habok pun tak nampak.

The posturing of the MNLF boasting large armies (10k), hidden weapons in Sabah, know-how of Malaysian army tactics, support of local populace etc. is all just to project an important/strong persona to recruit and also attract support to their cause and organization. They have to show that they still are an entity to be reckoned with. Even if they don't do a thing in Sabah, their posturing will sure to attract new recruits to their ranks from the Sulu people by 'pretending' to be the defender of the Sulu Sultanate. Doing this, they will then be considered as another entity 'worthy' of negotiating with.

The MILF armies are still very strong and has been 'given' a mandate to hunt down the Abu Sayyaf Group (ABG). This re-inforces their image as an enforcer for Bangsamoro. While the MNLF left out in the cold with nothing to show. Perhaps this was their way of trying to bolster their own image for the people in power to see.
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the MILF - although an adik - was just as brutal. they once beheaded more than 10 army officers in one battle. the MILF was founded by hardcore fundamentalist ex-members of the MNLF.

there was no OFFICIAL statement from MILF before muslimin's. but MILF did mentioned they dont want to support kiram's armed invasion

the thing is - MILF did not CLEARLY stated whether they are supporting sabah claim, done via negotiation

my view is this: all the Moros - MILF, MNLF, jamalul kiram, muedzul kiram, fuad kiram - all harbour an intent to claim sabah.

the question is only - by violence or by negotiation

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The MNLF are trying to be 'abang' for the Moro as their 'adik' MILF is already top dog at the moment being acknowledged and recognized by Malaysia and the Philipine. So the MNLF by supporting the Suluk initially, it would actually raise a lot of Sulu support for their own organization. But it back-fired of course so now they are doing damage control and suddenly releasing un-told stories of how they were in the back ground trying to negotiate/defuse tension etc. Previously habok pun tak nampak.

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Well their PR is pretty good actually. Very professional, cover-all-bases sorta thing.

http://bangsamoromnlf.blogspot.com/2013/02...f-sulu.html?m=1

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ANSWER: That is not part of the MNLF Sabah Recovery Project and MNLF Sabah PREMS Deal. That landing is not sanctioned by MNLF. If they were able to land that easily, it seems to appear that Malaysia is stupid, and I don't think Malaysia is stupid. So it appears more to me as a stage show. I don't know who are the parties behind that stage play, maybe Malaysia and Philippines is behind that stage play -- let's wait a little more and read the news further, because we can see the script of the stage show in how the news is presented.

Some people say that I should take that landing as an indicator that it is easy to land in Sabah; but I don't buy the deception.

When time comes for MNLF to land in Sabah, we send in at least 10,000 men in first batch and we expect heavy artillery, air assault, and even submarine and naval repulse by the Malaysian Army.

I will make the first say if it is MNLF sanctioned. I will keenly observe and make the last say since it is not.
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So south pinoy is occupied and overrun by these so called "warlords",
is pinoy army any worth at all to defend their own land?
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Saturday, February 23, 2013
ANSWER: That is not part of the MNLF Sabah Recovery Project and MNLF Sabah PREMS Deal. That landing is not sanctioned by MNLF. If they were able to land that easily, it seems to appear that Malaysia is stupid, and I don't think Malaysia is stupid. So it appears more to me as a stage show. I don't know who are the parties behind that stage play, maybe Malaysia and Philippines is behind that stage play -- let's wait a little more and read the news further, because we can see the script of the stage show in how the news is presented.

Some people say that I should take that landing as an indicator that it is easy to land in Sabah; but I don't buy the deception.

When time comes for MNLF to land in Sabah, we send in at least 10,000 men in first batch and we expect heavy artillery, air assault, and even submarine and naval repulse by the Malaysian Army.

I will make the first say if it is MNLF sanctioned. I will keenly observe and make the last say since it is not.
i did not think it was a stage show

at least not by MY politicians - not anwar, not najib nor kitingan, nor whoever regular member of UMNO who is a nobody

the kirams could land simply because - the maritime border was too vast to patrol. its as bloody simple as that - no conspiracy theories. boats go in and out to smuggle subsidiesed diesel all the time. it just as impossible as the US found it impossible to turn back the influx of Cubans to Miami.

now - when we have 6-7 vessels and choppers - is a different story. because we are expecting them

and its not sanctioned by MNLF muslimin. its 'sanctioned' by the gloryhunter misuari - with his followers of EX-MEMBERS of MNLF. remember when the pnoy media reported 10,000 MNLF veterans are coming? why VETERANS?

its misuari

when they land - of course they will tell they want to see anwar, or kitingan, or nobody member in umno. its their modus operandi what. they always say they are good friends of somebody - like fuad with his 'talk with bolkiah' shit

were talking about pilaks here. tambirang suma

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So south pinoy is occupied and overrun by these so called "warlords",
is pinoy army any worth at all to defend their own land?
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with all due respect to the pnoy security forces

they even botched their supposedly 'covert' operation to disguise as reporters to check out on kiram

this is incompetency at the highest level
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any idea where can watch the video?
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what video ? its either mexican drug cartel or phillipine fighting, no use watching.
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what video ? its either mexican drug cartel or phillipine southern thai fighting, no use watching.
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Well their PR is pretty good actually. Very professional, cover-all-bases sorta thing.

http://bangsamoromnlf.blogspot.com/2013/02...f-sulu.html?m=1
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That fella is an advisor/lawyer to the MNLF commitee. I think he is just as surprised by Kiram's move and is doing all sorts of explanations that it is not sanctioned by MNLF.

He also said this 'invasion' is 'wayang' one, maybe because it is not orchestrated by MNLF. But their name is being bandied as the supporter.

Who knows, maybe some Filipino politician trying to make MLNF look bad?
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thats why in the earlier threads, ive always reiterated to all you KL brothers - dont simply believe a pilak

their media doesnt have credibility at all

they will say bolkiah is friend, arroyo is friend, anwar invited, agong invited, all things - dont simply believe

they are fighting with each other. they want to gather as much allies as possible - to show their clout

we, sabahans, are actually in the middle of a power struggle between a nobody misuari, a nobody jamalul, and a nobody muedzul - fighting for RM5,300 of scraps and romanticisim of old kingdom

and malaysians paid - with their lives

even a sabahan was duped into treating them with meal - why do you want to belive their media, their claims and all?

they are nobody pilaks

http://thestar.com.my/columnists/story.asp...0Man%27s%20Meat
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So long story short,theres possibilitiies that the MNLF army might come soon or later huh.Btw,what video you guys keep talking about?I want tengok
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 01:05 AM)
i did not think it was a stage show

at least not by MY politicians - not anwar, not najib nor kitingan, nor whoever regular member of UMNO who is a nobody

the kirams could land simply because - the maritime border was too vast to patrol. its as bloody simple as that - no conspiracy theories. boats go in and out to smuggle subsidiesed diesel all the time. it just as impossible as the US found it impossible to turn back the influx of Cubans to Miami.

now - when we have 6-7 vessels and choppers - is a different story. because we are expecting them

and its not sanctioned by MNLF muslimin. its 'sanctioned' by the gloryhunter misuari - with his followers of EX-MEMBERS of MNLF. remember when the pnoy media reported 10,000 MNLF veterans are coming? why VETERANS?

its misuari

when they land - of course they will tell they want to see anwar, or kitingan, or nobody member in umno. its their modus operandi what. they always say they are good friends of somebody - like fuad with his 'talk with bolkiah' shit

were talking about pilaks here. tambirang suma
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If you remember right after the peace treaty is done by the philiphine and milf,with msia as the middle man, misuari send a strong statement saying that msia is benefitting the most from this deal, which is nobody is going to claim sabah anymore.so seems he's quite piss off. So it's not a big surprise that this is misuari's plan after all.
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eleh, only hands?
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I was taken in (IINM) 2005/2006 media open day, it was 338 lapua live bullet!
It was announced by the MC, and you can actually see the ammo at the top of the table
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with all due respect to the pnoy security forces

they even botched their supposedly 'covert' operation to disguise as reporters to check out on kiram

this is incompetency at the highest level
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even with rubber bullet that much impact power vs the skull sweat.gif shocking.gif sweat.gif
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I was taken in (IINM) 2005/2006 media open day, it was 338 lapua live bullet!
It was announced by the MC, and you can actually see the ammo at the top of the table
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Did he show the audience putting the ammo? brows.gif

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Did he show the audience putting the ammo? brows.gif
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I believe so, I bullet into the chamber directly you can see the rifle are mag-less!
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even with rubber bullet that much impact power vs the skull  sweat.gif shocking.gif sweat.gif
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I was taken in (IINM) 2005/2006 media open day, it was 338 lapua live bullet!
It was announced by the MC, and you can actually see the ammo at the top of the table
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How far is the shot?
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I believe so, I bullet into the chamber directly you can see the rifle are mag-less!
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I believe so?yes or no...lol..its rubber bullet la.Too risky to use live bullet infront of the audience.
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QUOTE(kensh!!n @ Mar 8 2013, 02:55 AM)
How far is the shot?
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Normal mid range firing range
around 27 yards

QUOTE(life09 @ Mar 8 2013, 02:55 AM)
I believe so?yes or no...lol..its rubber bullet la.Too risky to use live bullet infront of the audience.
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That's why they are the Special Force, so in that case, the answer is YES with capital
this is not the first time the closed public seen this kind of action (life bullet demo)
Last time the joing EX with indonesia at a Hotel in Melaka (Waverly Hotel), they all used live bullet, the cost of repairing the bullet damage is about 20k (IINM)


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 8 2013, 02:45 AM)
I was taken in (IINM) 2005/2006 media open day, it was 338 lapua live bullet!
It was announced by the MC, and you can actually see the ammo at the top of the table
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QFT

Even if it's rubber, he still need training to be that accurate. and there's no point for PGKs to train to be accurate with just rubber bullet, IMO



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QFT

Even if it's rubber, he still need training to be that accurate. and there's no point for PGKs to train to be accurate with just rubber bullet, IMO
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guys, invade the kiram website here http://sandakan.com/

there is a chatbox there, many malaysian are dominating there
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what video ? its either mexican drug cartel or phillipine fighting, no use watching.
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i heard there's a video on facebook? about the semporna case, got beheaded and thingy, lol.
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where r the pro hackers? its time for them to show their quality and served the country !!!!
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although it is not over yet, i have to say, so far, the way msian intelligence handling this case is quite top notch! thumbup.gif

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guys, invade the kiram website here http://sandakan.com/

there is a chatbox there, many malaysian are dominating there
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really? is this kiram's website? how u know? hmm..

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Kedengaran bunyi pesawat pejuang berlegar legar di kawasan Felda Sahabat tetapi bunyi letupan didengari.

TUDM saja buat panas pagi pagi ni

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Borhan Abu Samah @BorhanUMalaysia

Kedengaran bunyi pesawat pejuang berlegar legar di kawasan Felda Sahabat TETAPI bunyi letupan didengari.

TUDM saja buat panas pagi pagi ni
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apebenda ko cakap ni....ada letupan ke tak ni?
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 8 2013, 08:02 AM)
Borhan Abu Samah @BorhanUMalaysia

Kedengaran bunyi pesawat pejuang berlegar legar di kawasan Felda Sahabat tetapi bunyi letupan didengari.

TUDM saja buat panas pagi pagi ni
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looks like he forgot to put "tiada" letupan didengar
i dont know if there is any other bombardment operation today.
maybe a sonic boom from the aircraft
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quote from borhan Umalaysia twitter says like that bro.
not us. hahaha
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Did some Googling. A bit glad (though still felt pity to the man) that it's not our polis. It's the narcos (mexican drug war).

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I watched a video on the torturing of a man (seems like a malay, not sure). It's very gruesome and it's still fresh in my head till now. The people who shared it on facebook, claimed that it's done by the terrorists to one of our polis.

Guys, I think if you see people sharing it on facebook, please urge that person to take it down!
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 08:27 AM)
Potong jari potong kepala?
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eleh, only hands?
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If you are trained to do headshot. The size and colour
Of the baloon gives a lot of tolerance. But the stake definately high.

Shooting between the fingers have much more tighter tolerance.

Still impressive stuff.
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if they did torture our troops and policemen.

good luck to them. i assure u they will have it. dead or alive.
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How do you even find them among the number of Philippines in Sabah
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Mar 8 2013, 08:35 AM)
if they did torture our troops and policemen.

good luck to them. i assure u they will have it. dead or alive.
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Corner them. Evacuate the civilians first before cornering them in 1 place
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read at chinapress

look like sulu terorist is facing ammo issue. komando do find a lot of burried weapon beside find body.

hope this terorist fast fast surender
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FELDA SAHABAT – Malaysia rejected yesterday a ceasefire offer by Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, with the country’s defense minister vowing to “destroy all the militants” unless they surrender “unconditionally.”

“Don’t believe the ceasefire offer by Jamalul Kiram. In the interest of Sabahans and all Malaysians, wipe out all the militants first,” Defense Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said on his Tweeter feed.

Kiram had declared a unilateral ceasefire at 12:30 p.m., calling for reciprocation from Malaysia, whose armed forces are hunting his armed followers.

Kiram sent his followers – mostly Tausugs – from their homes across the Sulu Sea to assert an ancestral claim to Sabah. A major Malaysian offensive last Tuesday left dozens dead.

Clashes between the sultan’s followers and Malaysian forces have left 60 people dead as of last night, according to Malaysian police chief Ismail Omar.

By 3 p.m. Wednesday, he said 32 Filipinos were killed in two confrontations. Eight Malaysian policemen died in earlier skirmishes last week.

Headlines ( Article MRec ), pagematch: 1, sectionmatch: 1


Jamalul’s ceasefire call came after UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon urged a peaceful resolution to the standoff, considered as Malaysia’s biggest security crisis in years.

The ceasefire call also coincided with a sudden visit to Sabah by Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak to inspect security operations.

Najib’s government had tried for three weeks to persuade the Filipinos to leave, but launched a military assault Tuesday after they continually refused and engaged security forces in a pair of deadly shootouts.

Cessation of hostilities

To Malaysia’s rejection of his ceasefire offer, Kiram’s response was to declare a “cessation of hostilities.” 

“We are going to declare a cessation of hostilities in positive response to the call of the United Nations and to the reaction of the government of the Federation of Malaysia rejecting the unilateral ceasefire declared by the sultanate of Sulu unless what the Malaysian government said, the militants in Lahad Datu, referring to the Sulu royal forces, will surrender,” said his spokesman Abraham Idjirani.

“The Malaysian government, in complete rejection of the UN call, demanded that prior to its recognition of this unilateral ceasefire made by the Sultanate of Sulu must surrender the militants to them,” he added.

“In response to that, the Sultanate of Sulu is now declaring unilaterally a cessation of hostilities.”

He said a ceasefire should convince Malaysia to stop its assault and sit down for negotiation with the sultanate as encouraged by the UN.

“What we are doing is in compliance with the call of the United Nations,” Idjirani said, adding that he informed the sultan’s brother Agbimuddin of the declaration of “cessation of hostilities” at past 4 p.m. yesterday.

Should Malaysia’s rejection of the ceasefire offer result in more deaths, the UN would have to take action, Idjirani said.

He also said the sultanate is willing to swap captives with the Malaysian security forces who are in custody of 10 members of the so-called royal sultanate army.

Kiram’s civilian supporters, according to Idjirani, are in custody of four Malaysian officials.

Idjirani said a prisoner swap should be made in the presence of media as well as representatives of international humanitarian organizations.

“We will ask them (civilians holding Malaysians), we will compel them to follow the mandate of the United Nations,” he said. “I would like to emphasize that this will be done with the intercession of the Philippine government.”

He also said Malaysia’s rejection of their ceasefire offer could still be considered a “positive development” because it showed that Kuala Lumpur “is also listening to the Sultanate of Sulu.” Such gesture is no sign of weakness on the part of Malaysia, he stressed.  With Mike Frialde, Jaime Laude

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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 08:53 AM)
Which part they spin? Recently I see philstar dah jadi baik dah
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Read the language of their article. They're dead intent in painting us as the aggressors.

Which of course, we all know, is just pure bull.
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dafuq they got four of our boys? is that true?
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 08:53 AM)
Which part they spin? Recently I see philstar dah jadi baik dah
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JUST 50km outside Lahad Datu, one has to pass through Silabukan, which has a picturesque coastline. On a clear day, one can see a mass of land which is part of the Tawi-Tawi islands off the Philippines.

Bongao Island, the capital, is clearly visible. Originally a backwater village, Bongao, where the majority of the population is Muslim, is rapidly developing.

It takes only 20 minutes by speedboat for the Filipinos to reach our shores. That's how close we are physically.

But there is also another dimension to our close proximity.

The locals are fond of telling outsiders that it is normal for their Filipino relatives to come to Malaysia for a game of football or volleyball, and then return to the Philippines on the same day.

Obviously we are not even talking about clearing Immigration.

The Filipino influence on our side is so strong that some of the grocery shops are referred to as “sari-sari”.

At the Danggan Tungku fishing village, one can look across and see Sibutu, which is also part of the Tawi-Tawi islands.

From where I stood, the villagers were talking excitedly about the fighter jets bombing Kg Tanduo.

I arrived in this east coast Sabah town yesterday as the Malaysian police and army continued their mop-up operations after a massive attack on Tuesday.

The waters of the Sulu Sea and Sulawesi Sea have always been a dangerous area, well-known for piracy.

The pirates not only prey on fishermen but also huge container ships. They are reportedly well-armed and use high-speed motorboats.

But there are also more dangerous elements the host of Muslim radicals fighting for an independent Mindanao Islamic state being one of them. Their long history includes kidnapping of tourists and attacks on Sabahan towns.

In 1996, Semporna was attacked twice, which included an assault on its police station by 10 to 20 pirates armed with M-16 rifles.

In 2000, Abu Sayyaf militants arrived on the Sipadan resort island and kidnapped 21 people comprising tourists and resort workers, for ransom.

Lahad Datu is located in the Tawau division. It's an hour's flight from Kota Kinabalu, some 400km away.

Many orang semenanjung, as the locals call Malaysians from the peninsular, may have heard of this place but would have trouble pinpointing its location.

On Feb 11, heavily armed militants arrived in Lahad Datu and took over the village of Kg Tanduo. Inevitably, the whole world then came to know about this place.

The Sabah attacks have also provided history and geographical lessons for Malaysians. Most of us are learning, for the first time, about the lesser-known ethnic groups that exist in Malaysia, like Bajau, Bisaya, Kadazan Dusun, Murut, Dumpas, Illanun, Kwijau, Maragang, Orang Cocos, Orang Sungai, Rungus and of course, Tausug or the Suluks.

It would even surprise many Malaysians, who have only read about the controversial Project IC to naturalise the foreigners in the 1980s, that many Filipinos who settled in Sabah came from as far back as the Chinese from the southern seas.

In fact, in the 1970s, when the late Tun Mustapha was chief minister, he allowed more Filipinos, fleeing the fighting in the Philippines, to settle in Sabah.

But it is also this familiarity and even possible ties with their local kin that might have given the intruders the advantage.

According to military intelligence sources, they knew the terrain around the village well.

The conclusion is that they had visited the area before and were well acquainted with the heavy undergrowth and foliage in the hilly terrain.

The team of six Malaysian policemen which walked into a group of 30 intruders, which had used a white flag as a ruse, were surrounded and shot at by two snipers. Two of the Malaysians died.

About 130km away, where the Semporna water village is located, there are at least 300 homes on stilts and some have been suspected to provide support for these terrorists, who killed six other Malaysian security personnel in another encounter.

These Filipinos showed no mercy, beheading two of our men, and carrying out extremely cruel, gruesome acts on our men before killing them. They also gouged out the eyes of one of their victims.

It is the fanaticism in these intruders, with their readiness to die for their cause, which has startled our authorities.

But there is an expensive, if not, painful lesson, to learn from here. The Sabah coastal line is porous but the reality is that we have exposed our lax security along our coast. This is not the first time, but unfortunately this is also the worst security crisis in years.

The authorities' mantra of assuring Malaysians that “all is well and under control” will only be greeted with cynicism unless we take a really concerted and serious effort to beef up our maritime security along the coast.

We need to invest well to guard our 4,675km of coastline and our waters (including the Exclusive Economic Zones claimed) of 574,000sq km.

The fact is that the waters that Malaysia has to maintain security and sovereignty over are nearly twice the size of peninsular Malaysia and Sabah and Sarawak combined. That's not all, the distance between the peninsula and the two states is about 1,200km.

The intrusions have shown how vulnerable we are when facing external threats. This time, the intruders were a rag-tag but well-trained team of rebels. A full-fledged conventional military attack would be more worrisome.

We cannot take for granted that Malaysia is free from any external threat. We have been blessed with peace and stability but the wake-up call has been sounded. In fact, the alarm bells are ringing out loud.

Let's clean up our act we owe it to our fallen heroes who have sacrificed their lives for the nation. Don't let their deaths be in vain.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6615&sec=nation
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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 8 2013, 08:55 AM)
Read the language of their article. They're dead intent in painting us as the aggressors.

Which of course, we all know, is just pure bull.
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they are trying to get external help to force Malaysia to negotiation table, so thats why they are trying to show themselves as so good by calling for ceasefire, probably US are not interested to help them, Philippines gomen also seems neutral..

surrender or die! bruce.gif
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philstar is most oushum.

reminds me of the " nenek mati dilangar beca " something, i think if for philstar the news will be

"the grandmother of sultan sulu is dead after being knock down by sukhoi helicopter from malaysia because it is believed that she holds the document that will proof that the whole kalimantan is owned by sultan sulu"
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Which part they spin? Recently I see philstar dah jadi baik dah
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e also said Malaysia’s rejection of their ceasefire offer could still be considered a “positive development” because it showed that Kuala Lumpur “is also listening to the Sultanate of Sulu.” Such gesture is no sign of weakness on the part of Malaysia, he stressed.  With Mike Frialde, Jaime Laude

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morning guys

having a good time surfing other forum outside, i've got to say this tered in /k/ are the best source of true unBS minor-speculative info about lahad datu crisis, & not too much talk on politics..other forum that i surfed mostly got BS info, out-of-this-world speculations & of cos, fucuking political sentiments

kudos to u guys...keep on updating, keep away politics, kill BS speculations, pray for sabah


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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:00 AM)
morning guys

having a good time surfing other forum outside, i've got to say this tered in /k/ are the best source of true unBS minor-speculative info about lahad datu crisis, & not too much talk on politics..other forum that i surfed mostly got BS info, out-of-this-world speculations & of cos, fucuking political sentiments

kudos to u guys...keep on updating, keep away politics, kill BS speculations, pray for sabah
imma gonna get some weed now
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:00 AM)
morning guys

having a good time surfing other forum outside, i've got to say this tered in /k/ are the best source of true unBS minor-speculative info about lahad datu crisis, & not too much talk on politics..other forum that i surfed mostly got BS info, out-of-this-world speculations & of cos, fucuking political sentiments

kudos to u guys...keep on updating, keep away politics, kill BS speculations, pray for sabah
imma gonna get some weed now
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thumbup.gif .... tapi sekali sekala ada juga troller masuk memeriahkan suasana kedaikopi..........
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QUOTE(leon-chua @ Mar 8 2013, 08:16 AM)
Nanti taun depan kita beli 20 patrol boat dan 7 bijik cruiser kasi serang itu sulu

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cruisers? biar betoi.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

anyways, we already got some local companies that can build ships, like the training vessels built in Sijangkang, good sized vessel for patrol purposes. Also maybe local companies try to get license to build CB90s
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 8 2013, 03:04 AM)
QFT

Even if it's rubber, he still need training to be that accurate. and there's no point for PGKs to train to be accurate with just rubber bullet, IMO
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 8 2013, 10:00 AM)
morning guys

having a good time surfing other forum outside, i've got to say this tered in /k/ are the best source of true unBS minor-speculative info about lahad datu crisis, & not too much talk on politics..other forum that i surfed mostly got BS info, out-of-this-world speculations & of cos, fucuking political sentiments

kudos to u guys...keep on updating, keep away politics, kill BS speculations, pray for sabah
imma gonna get some weed now
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mulut saja cakap cease fire cease hostility tapi where's the action? Tell your men to come out from hiding and surrender lah. Cakap tak serupa bikin.
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:11 AM)
mulut saja cakap cease fire cease hostility tapi where's the action? Tell your men to come out from hiding and surrender lah. Cakap tak serupa bikin.
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umum ceasefire tu ruse je, taktik utk lengah2kan masa, maybe utk seludup org dan senjata ke Sabah..
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I think by now the enemy must starting to have food and water supply shortage. (unless it was raining sometime during the blockade)

they must be starting to be delusional.


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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 8 2013, 10:12 AM)
reest them then soal siasat if cannot talk BM confirm sulu if can talk bm the the next round soal soasat by asking them:

1. who is Tun Hussian onn son ?
2. who is Tun Razak son ?

if cannot answer both question confirm sulu
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:11 AM)
mulut saja cakap cease fire cease hostility tapi where's the action? Tell your men to come out from hiding and surrender lah. Cakap tak serupa bikin.
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Our minister pandai, we have the advantage and if our enemy doesn't cease fire themselves by surrender, we will hunt them and bring their bodies back to Kiram in coffins.
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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 8 2013, 09:12 AM)
arest them then soal siasat if cannot talk BM confirm sulu if can talk bm the the next round soal soal siasat by asking them:

1. who is Tun Hussain onn son ?
2. who is Tun Razak son ?

if cannot answer both question confirm sulu
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:11 AM)
mulut saja cakap cease fire cease hostility tapi where's the action? Tell your men to come out from hiding and surrender lah. Cakap tak serupa bikin.
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they cant contact so call rajah muda coz rajah muda habes prepaid/prepaid expired/batt abes


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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:13 AM)
I think by now the enemy must starting to have food and water supply shortage. (unless it was raining sometime during the blockade)

they must be starting to be delusional.
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last time after 3 weeks also nothing happen to them, still can war with us somemore hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 8 2013, 09:12 AM)
arest them then soal siasat if cannot talk BM confirm sulu if can talk bm the the next round soal soal siasat by asking them:

1. who is Tun Hussian onn son ?
2. who is Tun Razak son ?

if cannot answer both question confirm sulu
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:14 AM)
1. mamakthir
2. hisapmudin

inb4 i m nt sulu
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Napoli26 sulu, tangkap and tembak.
No. 1 is easy. No. 2 I don't know lol, remember face and he went to China tapi nama tak tahu lol.

Edit no. 2 I thought you ask siapa nama anak Bijan, seriously I don't know lol laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Love6 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:16 AM)
Napoli26 sulu, tangkap and tembak.
No. 1 is easy. No. 2 I don't know lol, remember face and he went to China tapi nama tak tahu lol.
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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 8 2013, 09:12 AM)
arest them then soal siasat if cannot talk BM confirm sulu if can talk bm the the next round soal soal siasat by asking them:

1. who is Tun Hussian onn son ?
2. who is Tun Razak son ?

if cannot answer both question confirm sulu
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lot of suluk can speak malay wor..

and also, you'd be surprised how many malaysians dont know the answer to those..
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Mar 8 2013, 09:17 AM)
lot of suluk can speak malay wor..

and also, you'd be surprised how many malaysians dont know the answer to those..
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Try answer no. 2 modified, siapa anak Bijan laugh.gif

Anyway no. 1 - Cousin of Bik Mama's husband no. 2 - Bik Mama's husband laugh.gif

QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 09:18 AM)
Tangkap dan tanya dulu dari klia nak pegi ampang ticket train brapa harga
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QUOTE(Love6 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:16 AM)
Napoli26 sulu, tangkap and tembak.
No. 1 is easy. No. 2 I don't know lol, remember face and he went to China tapi nama tak tahu lol.

Edit no. 2 I thought you ask siapa nama anak Bijan, seriously I don't know lol  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 09:18 AM)
Tangkap dan tanya dulu dari klia nak pegi ampang ticket train brapa harga
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malaysian only consist of people stay in KL and selangor

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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 09:18 AM)
Tangkap dan tanya dulu dari klia nak pegi ampang ticket train brapa harga
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typical KL pipu thinking, Msia = KL rolleyes.gif
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Any other sos on those 4 malaysian hostage?
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:15 AM)
last time after 3 weeks also nothing happen to them, still can war with us somemore hmm.gif
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During that time they surely bring ration and still have time to cook rice during negotiation.. But since last week no time to light fire.


On another note, kroni mana yg dapat direct tender supply catering untuk ops daulat ? 7 batalion tu. Mesti mark up harga military sebab menu top secret. Mohon keadilandaily commando pergi siasat dan bongkar.
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 09:20 AM)
Nak identify bukan malaysian.

Tanya rukun negara in kl.
Sure ramai mati kena pancung
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tangkap dan tanya " kalau pakai kereta proton selalu apa rosak dulu?". kalau jawab power window confirm malaysian. kalau jawab enjin nampak benor nipunye...
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Ulasan untuk kefahaman rakyat Malaysia.

Di hari pertama serangan udara pihak TUDM lancarkan, saya telah jelaskan tujuannya :

First wave - Serangan udara dilakukan bagi menekan kedudukan musuh dan melembutkan sebarang element pertahanan musuh bagi membuka jalan pasukan TD masuk lebih rapat ke titik pertahanan musuh (jika ada selepas pengeboman).

a) Menekan kedudukan musuh bermakna tidak semestinya kita mengebom tepat kawasan musuh berkubu TAPI memadai hasilnya musuh tidak bertahan secara statik, menyusun formasi untuk menyerang secara hendap/mendadak apabila pasukan operasi di darat mula masuk ke kawasan dipercayai musuh berada. Hasilnya penggeledahan dapat dilakukan tanpa seorang pun anggota keselamatan kita cedera atau terbunuh.

b) Dalam operasi penggeledahan yang sama kita berjaya menemui kubur yg ditanam mayat pengganas (bukti berlaku kematian di hari pertama - 1/3/13). Seorang lagi pengganas berjaya dibunuh ketika cuba "ambush" pasukan forensik.

c) Dengan serangan udara tanpa dijangka puak2 pengganas, mereka terpaksa mengubah taktikal2 perang mereka dan mula bergerak melarikan diri mencari perlindungan keselamatan. Apabila ada pergerakan maka peluang pasukan keselamatan untuk mengesan jejak mereka bertambah mudah.

d) Kecederaan yang berlaku di pihak pengganas juga (dipercayai ada kecederaan berdasarkan bukti yg kita ada) telah menyebabkan pergerakan mereka terbatas dan perlahan.

DAN yang paling penting mengebom kawasan hutan/ladang kelapa sawit yang dipercayai pengganas berkubu bukanlah seperti mengebom sebuah blok bangunan. Blok bangunan sasarannya adalah jelas. Manakala hutan/ladang kelapa sawit pula radius kawasannya cukup luas. Kita juga melakukan pengebom "terbatas" bukannya mengunakan "Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb" seperti yang US miliki.

Kesimpulannya pengeboman udara tempoh hari tetap memberikan "hasil" yg kita kehendaki dalam taktik2 perang dan pandangan orang awam yang mahu melihat hasilnya (jumlah korban di pihak pengganas) bolehlah di ABAIKAN kerana CARA MEREKA FAHAM ADALAH BERLAINAN SEPERTI YANG PASUKAN KESELAMATAN FAHAM. Mereka perlu banyak lagi membaca untuk memahami ilmu di medan perang.

Sekian. The Black Dagger...

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 8 2013, 08:58 AM)
they are trying to get external help to force Malaysia to negotiation table, so thats why they are trying to show themselves as so good by calling for ceasefire, probably US are not interested to help them, Philippines gomen also seems neutral..

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well anifah aman should go to the UN and provide an explanation on the crisis, just to make sure we aren't giving the defunct kiram anymore hope to believe.
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PAGI2 lyn propaganda philstar

KL: No ceasefire, wipe out all militants (tajuk pn dah kata kita ni jahat)

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FELDA SAHABAT – Malaysia rejected yesterday a ceasefire offer by Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, with the country’s defense minister vowing to “destroy all the militants” unless they surrender “unconditionally.”

“Don’t believe the ceasefire offer by Jamalul Kiram. In the interest of Sabahans and all Malaysians, wipe out all the militants first,” Defense Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said on his Tweeter feed.

Kiram had declared a unilateral ceasefire at 12:30 p.m., calling for reciprocation from Malaysia, whose armed forces are hunting his armed followers.

Kiram sent his followers – mostly Tausugs – from their homes across the Sulu Sea to assert an ancestral claim to Sabah. A major Malaysian offensive last Tuesday left dozens dead.

Clashes between the sultan’s followers and Malaysian forces have left 60 people dead as of last night, according to Malaysian police chief Ismail Omar.

By 3 p.m. Wednesday, he said 32 Filipinos were killed in two confrontations. Eight Malaysian policemen died in earlier skirmishes last week.

Headlines ( Article MRec ), pagematch: 1, sectionmatch: 1


Jamalul’s ceasefire call came after UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon urged a peaceful resolution to the standoff, considered as Malaysia’s biggest security crisis in years.

The ceasefire call also coincided with a sudden visit to Sabah by Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak to inspect security operations.

Najib’s government had tried for three weeks to persuade the Filipinos to leave, but launched a military assault Tuesday after they continually refused and engaged security forces in a pair of deadly shootouts.

Cessation of hostilities

To Malaysia’s rejection of his ceasefire offer, Kiram’s response was to declare a “cessation of hostilities.” 

“We are going to declare a cessation of hostilities in positive response to the call of the United Nations and to the reaction of the government of the Federation of Malaysia rejecting the unilateral ceasefire declared by the sultanate of Sulu unless what the Malaysian government said, the militants in Lahad Datu, referring to the Sulu royal forces, will surrender,” said his spokesman Abraham Idjirani.

“The Malaysian government, in complete rejection of the UN call, demanded that prior to its recognition of this unilateral ceasefire made by the Sultanate of Sulu must surrender the militants to them,” he added.

“In response to that, the Sultanate of Sulu is now declaring unilaterally a cessation of hostilities.”

He said a ceasefire should convince Malaysia to stop its assault and sit down for negotiation with the sultanate as encouraged by the UN.

“What we are doing is in compliance with the call of the United Nations,” Idjirani said, adding that he informed the sultan’s brother Agbimuddin of the declaration of “cessation of hostilities” at past 4 p.m. yesterday.

Should Malaysia’s rejection of the ceasefire offer result in more deaths, the UN would have to take action, Idjirani said.

He also said the sultanate is willing to swap captives with the Malaysian security forces who are in custody of 10 members of the so-called royal sultanate army.

Kiram’s civilian supporters, according to Idjirani, are in custody of four Malaysian officials.

Idjirani said a prisoner swap should be made in the presence of media as well as representatives of international humanitarian organizations.

“We will ask them (civilians holding Malaysians), we will compel them to follow the mandate of the United Nations,” he said. “I would like to emphasize that this will be done with the intercession of the Philippine government.”

He also said Malaysia’s rejection of their ceasefire offer could still be considered a “positive development” because it showed that Kuala Lumpur “is also listening to the Sultanate of Sulu.” Such gesture is no sign of weakness on the part of Malaysia, he stressed.  With Mike Frialde, Jaime Laude
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/03/...t-all-militants

pergh philstar pusing yg kita tak ikut UN pnya kata
dah lah buat mcm kita yg jahat

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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:32 AM)
PAGI2 lyn propaganda philstar

KL: No ceasefire, wipe out all militants (tajuk pn dah kata kita ni jahat)
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/03/...t-all-militants

pergh philstar pusing yg kita tak ikut UN pnya kata
dah lah buat mcm kita yg jahat

philstar lagi power dari utusan,berita harian,metro sweat.gif
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no wonder it took them longer than usual to release the article, rupa-rupanya thinking of a spinning script.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Mar 8 2013, 09:33 AM)
no wonder it took them longer than usual to release the article, rupa-rupanya thinking of a spinning script.
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ni mesti headline kt belah sana

malaysia reject UN call for peaceful solution

pastu muka pukiram nagis2..

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Mar 8 2013, 09:22 AM)
silap2 dgn rakyat2 malaysia kena pancung...
ade je yg tak hafal rukun negara  whistling.gif
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suruh nyanyi negaraku je.
Kalau tu x tau, xyh jd rakyat malaysia
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A good read for every1.

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Lahad Datu: The realities behind military ops
By DZIRHAN MAHADZIR

A military cannot specifically equip itself and purpose itself towards a specific role or mission; it has to cover every possible eventuality.

ONE of the chief problems in this country, and globally for that matter, is that the vast majority of people have very little idea of how military operations are really run.

And it's not just due to what many call the Hollywood influence, but also even books, magazines and comics all focus on what is known as the “pointy end of the spear”, namely the combat aspects while ignoring the unglamorous but essential aspects of logistical, medical, administrative, engineering and transportation in the military.

Understandably, such topics are dry and not as exciting as combat operations and equipment and hence the lack of material as such. But anyone who wants to comment on military operations and criticise why some things are done or not done, should understand wholly all of the other factors behind military operations before commenting.

I'm going to address three of the questions being posed publicly in regard to it.

> What use are our submarines when they cannot prevent the Lahad Datu incursion?

The first thing anyone needs to understand is that militaries are multi-mission organisations. They have equipment for any eventuality, ranging from a full-scale war to border incursions or humanitarian assistance and disaster relief among others.

The Royal Malaysian Navy's (RMN) submarines are not suited for the role of preventing border incursions, but they do play a key role in other tasks and missions.

The RMN doesn't much like to talk about what its submarines actually do as navy chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar sees maintaining operational security on our submarines activities as vital. And before anyone starts screaming “cover up”, just remember every nation in the world generally keeps the operational activities of their submarines a secret.

All I can say on the role of the RMN's submarines is for anyone to look at the history of submarine operations and you will get an idea of what our submarines are for.

Every piece of military equipment has specific roles and while the trend is towards multipurpose platforms, sometimes there are missions that a platform is not suited for.

The RMN's CB90 combat boats are great for chasing down pirates and border raiders. But put those boats up against a frigate in a war and the CB90s will be blown out of the water.

Likewise, a submarine isn't much use for preventing border raiders, but they are the perfect tool for sinking any ship from a frigate to an aircraft carrier.

The point is that a military cannot specifically equip itself and purpose itself towards a specific role or mission. It has to cover every possible eventuality and thus there is always a situation where there will be some part of the military inventory that will not be of much use in a particular situation.

> Why do we use AirAsia commercial aircraft to ferry soldiers to Sabah. Does the RMAF have no aircraft?

First, the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) does have aircraft to transport troops. But bear in mind that like all air forces, the RMAF has a finite number of aircraft.

The RMAF has 14 C-130 Hercules, each of which can carry around 90 soldiers, assuming all aircraft are available, which is always never the case in any military since some aircraft may be down for maintenance or be tasked for other missions. This means we have a lift capability of 1,260 troops in one go.

Now we know that the military has moved anywhere from two to five battalions of troops from Peninsular Malaysia to Lahad Datu (one battalion has around 700 soldiers). So if you do the math and look even at a minimum number of two battalions totalling 1,400 soldiers, we are short of aircraft.

Yes, we can fly multiple flights, but the issue is time and getting the soldiers there quickly, and hence the Government charters AirAsia, with which it has a standard arrangement for such contingencies.

The use of such charters isn't unusual. The United States and other countries also carry out the same usage of civilian aircraft for transporting large number of troops.

Some will now ask why we do not have enough aircraft. But bear in mind the number of transport aircraft a country possesses is a trade-off on economy.

An air force has to also spend on other aircraft and equipment. At the same time, each aircraft entails a support requirement of maintenance personnel and parts.

By using AirAsia, the RMAF's C-130s are free to transport other things such as the Condor armoured personnel carriers, which you cannot put on any ordinary plane. The RMAF is also transporting other crucial equipment and other necessities such as food and water.

> Why do we need so many troops, don't we have enough in Sabah?

The security forces are conducting a sweep- and-cordon operation, which naturally entails having a lot of manpower. In addition, while we have troops in Sabah, they have to maintain their own positions and tasks.

It would be foolish for the country to pull troops away from current positions and tasks in Sabah and send them to Lahad Datu when we do not know if additional militants will show up elsewhere in the state. Furthermore, there is a need to secure other parts of Sabah, even more so in light of the current situation, and hence the additional deployment of troops.

> Dzirhan Mahadzir is a freelance defence journalist and analyst based in Kuala Lumpur. He was a guest lecturer at the Malaysian Armed Forces Defence College from 1999-2003.

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Mar 8 2013, 09:28 AM)
well anifah aman should go to the UN and provide an explanation on the crisis, just to make sure we aren't giving the defunct kiram anymore hope to believe.
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I take the fact of anifah aman still not summoned to the un as a proof that un doesnt really take care the plea by tiram,.

Un serves as a peace entity, of coz if sum1 ask for it, they ll both party to end peacefully...

What tiram didnt get is that msia hav the absolute right to hunt n detain/kill his clansmen, coz they do atrocious crime on malaysian soil...
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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:32 AM)
PAGI2 lyn propaganda philstar

KL: No ceasefire, wipe out all militants (tajuk pn dah kata kita ni jahat)
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/03/...t-all-militants

pergh philstar pusing yg kita tak ikut UN pnya kata
dah lah buat mcm kita yg jahat

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Lps ni utusan, metroll hanta org g blaja kat philstar. laugh.gif
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One thing aku dpt frm my malaysian friend yg study kat phil.. the news there banyak berpihak kepada kiram.sebab penulis dia almost semua moros. Patut lah..
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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:32 AM)
PAGI2 lyn propaganda philstar

pergh philstar pusing yg kita tak ikut UN pnya kata
dah lah buat mcm kita yg jahat

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macamla mereka ada kuasa nak minta itu nak minta ini. Tak ikut UN itu cuma alasan, UN pun cuma advise saja kita tak perlu ikut lagipun mereka bukan sebuah nation, tak diiktiraf oleh mana mana pertubuhan antarabangsa, tak ada kuasa memerintah, tak ada tanah, habuk je ada. Ini bukan confrontation antara negara, cuma sebuah negara cuba mempertahankan kedaulatannya daripada intruders. Mereka belagak macamla mereka ni German Shepard tapi in reality cuma seekor anjing kurap berpenyakit. biarla mereka menyalak, dah nak mati dah pun.

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Send Kiram to hell.....he will be having the same fate like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden!
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Mar 8 2013, 09:42 AM)
macamla mereka ada kuasa nak minta itu nak minta ini. Tak ikut UN itu cuma alasan, UN pun cuma advise saja kita tak perlu ikut lagipun mereka bukan sebuah nation, tak diiktiraf oleh mana mana pertubuhan antarabangsa, tak ada kuasa memerintah, tak ada tanah, habuk je ada. Ini bukan confrontation antara negara, cuma sebuah negara cuba mempertahankan kedaulatannya daripada intruders. Mereka belagak macamla mereka ni German Shepard tapi in reality cuma seekor anjing kurap berpenyakit. biarla mereka menyalak, dah nak mati dah pun.
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Mar 8 2013, 09:42 AM)
macamla mereka ada kuasa nak minta itu nak minta ini. Tak ikut UN itu cuma alasan, UN pun cuma advise saja kita tak perlu ikut lagipun mereka bukan sebuah nation, tak diiktiraf oleh mana mana pertubuhan antarabangsa, tak ada kuasa memerintah, tak ada tanah, habuk je ada. Ini bukan confrontation antara negara, cuma sebuah negara cuba mempertahankan kedaulatannya daripada intruders. Mereka belagak macamla mereka ni German Shepard tapi in reality cuma seekor anjing kurap berpenyakit. biarla mereka menyalak, dah nak mati dah pun.
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media sana buat kita mcm lwn filipina bkn penganas sulu
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 8 2013, 09:35 AM)
I take the fact of  anifah aman still not summoned to the un as a proof that un doesnt really take care the plea by tiram,.

Un serves as a peace entity, of coz if sum1 ask for it, they ll both party to end peacefully...

What tiram didnt get is that msia hav the absolute right to hunt n detain/kill his clansmen, coz they do atrocious crime on malaysian soil...
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they already have the problem to understand the bold part .. that's why they think that they are on the right side.

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apa yang sekarang ialah label them as terrorist.
tengok siapa nak bantu mereka.
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OPS DAULAT : SUDAH TERHANTUK BARU TERGADAH

SYABAS ATM DAN POLIS

1. Saya tahu agensi perisikan Singapura, Indonesia, Filiphina dan Amerika Syarikat (AS) telah menarik nafas panjang apabila melihat kejayaan Malaysia khususnya Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) dan Polis DiRaja Malaysia (PDRM) dalam mengerakkan operasi bersama (Joint operation) sehingga berjaya melumpuhkan pengganas-pengganas Sulu yang telah menceroboh kedaulatan negara.

2. Malaysia sudah memberikan peluang yang sebaiknya kepada pengganas ini yang jumlahnya lebih kurang 150 ke 200 orang selama tiga minggu dan dunia telah menyaksikan pengganas-pengganas ini menganiaya anggota pasukan keselamatan kita.

3. Inspektor 17992 Zulkifli B. Mamat (Syahid) terbunuh apabila pengganas Sulu melakukan sikap keji apabila berpura-pura mengibarkan bendera putih sebagai isyarat mahu menyerah diri.

4. Zulkifli yang merupakan ketua pasukan, menyangka musuh berniat baik lantas bangun dari posisi bertahan dan serentak itu, peluru dari penembak tepat dilepaskan dan menembusi kepala Allahyarham.

5. Koperal 113088 Sabarudin B. Daud (Syahid) yang bangun membantu turut terkena peluru dari penempak tepat, maka gugurlah kedua perwira bangsa.

6. Rupanya pasukan peninjau polis yang menjalankan tugas recce dalam ladang kelapa sawit disitu telah dikepung oleh ratusan pengganas Sulu.

7. Tanpa ketiadaan ketua pasukan, anggota lain terus membalas tembakan dan bertahan sekurang-kurangnya setengah jam sebelum tiba pasukan bantuan dan hasil dari kecekalan mereka yang terkepung ini, lebih kurang 12 pengganas Sulu ditembak mati.

8. Pengganas juga menganianya wira-wira polis kita yang gugur di Jaya Simunul, Kampung Seri Semporna.

9. Wira-wira polis ini yang berpakaian biasa merupakan unit Cawangan Khas (SB) bergerak ke kampung tersebut untuk melakukan tinjauan risik tetapi kedatangan mereka seperti sudah dapat dihidu.

10.Pengganas yang bersenjatakan raifel automatik M16 menghamburkan peluru sehingga mereka gugur sebagai bunga bangsa, darah pekat mengalir dari celah-celah jeti kampung tersebut.

11.Yang tinggal hidup, hanya nyawa-nyawa ikan.

12.Ketika ini, musuh menerpa dan mengerat-gerat serta memotong kepala ketua pasukan polis ini, ada jenazah polis yang dicacatkan, mata si mati dikorek, ada yang dipotong kepala di ditetak berkali-kali dengan parang, ada yang masih hidup dipotong kedua-dua tangannya.

13.Yang sialnya, akhbar Filiphina yang menyokong pengganas ini meletakkan mereka yang mati dikalangan penyokong Kiram sebagai imam-iman tempatan dari kaum Sulu yang syahid.

di mana ada yang dipenggal kepalanya, dikorek mata, dirodok perut sehingga terburai, dipotong tangan kiri dan kanan dan ada yang dicincang kepalanya (Senarainya kecederaan dan penganiayaan pada mereka yang mati ini saya ada tetapi demi menjaga maruah mereka yang gugur, tidak perlulah saya siarkan, saya jamin, kalau anda membaca…anda akan berdendam).

6. Saya sendiri tidak tahu, tonik apa yang mereka makan atau jin mana yang mereka damping sebelum pergi berperang sehingga memaksa mereka itu bertindak diluar batas kemanusiaan.

7. Yang anehnya, ada juga penyokong pengganas-pengganas ini dari negara jiran dan komen mereka terpaksa saya buang untuk mengelakkan nama negara mereka yang besar itu tercemar dan kotor di atas komentar rakyat mereka ini.

OPERASI DAULAT

8. Saya memohon maaf kerana tidak dapat update.

9. Ingin saya melahirkan rasa kesal kepada sebahagian besar pembaca saya yang tidak sabar dan terlalu banyak mempertikaikan operasi ATM dan PDRM ini seolah-olah mereka ini lebih tahu.

10. Mereka beranggapan perang seperti yang mereka lihat dari kaca TV atau permainan video game.

11.Saya pula memilih jalan selamat untuk menantikan satu tindakan konkrit yang saya tahu pasti akan berlaku sedangkan setiap hari maklumat dari medan tempur masuk ke dalam talian saya setiap jam, saya ingin mengucapkan terima kasih kepada para kontek saya dan juga kepada Anak Sabah yang menjadi mata dan telinga saya di negeri itu.

12.Maklumat-maklumat ini pula tidak dapat saya siarkan kecuali kerana tidak ada siapa yang boleh mengesahkan data yang saya terima, dan saya pula tidak mahu menganggu operasi yang sedang dijalankan termasuk menyebarkan khabar yang tidak benar.

MALAYSIA BUKTIKAN KEUPAYAAN MELAKSANAKAN JOINT OPERATION

13.Operasi Daulat dimulakan dengan serangan jet-jet F/A 18 Hornet dan Hawk Tentera Udara DiRaja Malaysia (TUDM).

14.Bagi saya, oleh kerana serangan jet-jet ini lebih kepada “Power Projection” oleh Malaysia kepada agensi-agensi perisikan negara jiran untuk menunjukkan kemampuan aset pertahanan kita.

15.Ia juga adalah bukti kemampuan negara untuk melaksanakan Joint atau Combined Force Operation yang menggabungkan tentera laut, udara, komando, tentera darat, polis serta agensi kerajaan lain.

16.Negara-negara jiran lain secara teorinya mungkin ada kemampuan untuk membuat “Combined Force Operation” ini tetapi belum pernah dibuktikan secara nyata kecuali dalam latihan.

52 PENGGANAS SULU TERBUNUH SEHINGGA ARTIKEL INI DITULIS PADA 8 MAC

17.Apabila kita hilang sabar, inilah akibatnya, 52 pengganas Sulu terbunuh sejak dari kali pertama pertempuran bermula.

18.Pengganas ini menyangka mereka sedang berperang dengan askar-askar Filiphina, mereka lupa, mereka sedang berhadapan dengan ANGKATAN TENTERA MALAYSIA dan POLIS DI RAJA.

19.Saya sendiri menyaksikan gambar-gambar kematian pengganas ini (gambar baru dan bukan gambar dalam lubang), tetapi saya gagal memperolehi kebenaran untuk menyiarkan gambar ini, ia akan disiarkan dalam sebuah blog lain.

SERANGAN PENGGANAS TIDAK ADA KOORDINASI

20.Maklumat tidak rasmi yang saya terima, pengganas-pengganas ini mempunyai kekuatan seramai 1,000 orang di mana sekitar 200 dari mereka berada di Lahad Datu.

21.Bakinya dipecahkan ke enam daerah yang lain termasuk Semporna.

22.Ramai yang mempertikaikan keberkesanan sistem jammer atau kenderaan Electronik Warfare yang kita ada iaitu CommJam Fuch 6×6 hanya kerana ketua pengganas berjaya membuat panggilan telefon ke Manila.

23.Bagaimana kejayaan sistem ini terbukti kerana rancangan awal pengganas berjaya digagalkan, pelan untuk menimbulkan huru hara di tempat-tempat lain gagal kerana masalah komunikasi.

24.Sejak awal rakyat dibawa menumpukan perhatian ke Lahad Datu sedangkan pada masa yang sama pasukan tentera di atur gerak ke tempat lain.

25.Kegagalan rakyat dan pembaca memahami bagaimana operasi tentera dijalankan memang saya sudah jangka kerana rata-rata, banyak forum pertahanan hanya suka membicarakan kecanggihan sesuatu aset tetapi kurang menyentuh dari sudut operasi ketenteraan.

PENGGANAS MERAYU MINTA GENCATAN SENJATA

26.Kelmarin media-media di Filiphina dan Indonesia meletakkan harapan yang tinggi kepada pengganas Sulu ini untuk mendatangkan kerosakkan yang besar kepada pasukan keselamatan negara kita.

26.Tajuk-tajuk seperti “Experience versus Fire Power” (klik sini) disiarkan, dan mengangkat pengganas Sulu ini seperti pahlawan yang tidak terkalah.

27.Bongkaknya elemen dengki dan cemburu di negara-negara dunia ketiga ini dihancurkan dengan rayuan ketua pengganas sendiri yang memohon ehsan dan belas dari pasukan keselamatan Malaysia.

26.Kalau kelmarin mereka bongkak, hari ini ketua pengganas iaitu Sultan Kiram merayu meminta gencatan senjata dari Malaysia.

28.Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib semalam menegaskan, serah senjata tanpa syarat. Anda (pengganas) sedang berhadapan dengan negara berdaulat.

SYABAS MALAYSIA

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I think Kiram sekarang ni lebih baik gali satu lubang untuk sembunyi dulu,macam saddam hussein!
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Mar 8 2013, 09:42 AM)
macamla mereka ada kuasa nak minta itu nak minta ini. Tak ikut UN itu cuma alasan, UN pun cuma advise saja kita tak perlu ikut lagipun mereka bukan sebuah nation, tak diiktiraf oleh mana mana pertubuhan antarabangsa, tak ada kuasa memerintah, tak ada tanah, habuk je ada. Ini bukan confrontation antara negara, cuma sebuah negara cuba mempertahankan kedaulatannya daripada intruders. Mereka belagak macamla mereka ni German Shepard tapi in reality cuma seekor anjing kurap berpenyakit. biarla mereka menyalak, dah nak mati dah pun.
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sebab tu si kiram bila dia bercakap, dia akan sebut FILIPINA..dia tak akan sebut kesulatanan sulu semata-mata, sebab dia tau kesulatanan sulu semata-mata tiada kredibiliti..sapa nak dengar cakap dari sultan yang tiada negara, tiada tanah, tiada daulat, tiada iktiraf??? kalau dia petik nama FILIPINA, di mata dunia antarabangsa akan nampak dia seorang rakyat filipina, bercakap atas tiket filipina..filipina tak akan reject dia sebab filipina kan ke nak ngorat sabah jugak..mana la tau sok2 kiram ni bole dapatkan sabah, boleh filipina ngap skali

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 8 2013, 09:43 AM)
depa dah kecut teloq la ni bang...  flex.gif
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skang da propose cease fire pulak .. apsal ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:45 AM)
media sana buat kita mcm lwn filipina bkn penganas sulu
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what tey believe in is up to them. Tey can believe ultraman and superman come and destroy their militant for all i care. The important thing is we r in the right, under international law we hav the right to defend our sovereignty from invaders. Let them bark, tey no happy bring it up to international court if tey dare.
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U think when school there (LD, red zone) can open.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 8 2013, 09:51 AM)
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U think when school there (LD, red zone) can open.. hmm.gif
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not sure.
but safety is important.
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 8 2013, 09:51 AM)
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U think when school there (LD, red zone) can open.. hmm.gif
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why? adik tak sabar nak pi skolah ke? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:48 AM)
sebab tu si kiram bila dia bercakap, dia akan sebut FILIPINA..dia tak akan sebut kesulatanan sulu semata-mata, sebab dia tau kesulatanan sulu semata-mata tiada kredibiliti..sapa nak dengar cakap dari sultan yang tiada negara, tiada tanah, tiada daulat, tiada iktiraf??? kalau dia petik nama FILIPINA, di mata dunia antarabangsa akan nampak dia seorang rakyat filipina, bercakap atas tiket filipina..filipina tak akan reject dia sebab filipina kan ke nak ngorat sabah jugak..mana la tau sok2 kiram ni bole dapatkan sabah, boleh filipina ngap skali
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the official stance from the Philippine is against these retards not support them. International observer will hold that account on them. Tey can claim under Philippine all tey like, officially tey do not support them, in the end it all amounts to just anjing kurap menjalak.

let them claim all they like. Bark all they want even if Philippine support them, Sabah will nvr be theirs on the basis of their claim.
International Court of Justice
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UN already accepted cobbold commission, ICJ already ruled it in our favor in the past under similar claim, they want to bark go ahead la. If they dare bring it up to ICJ la.

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 8 2013, 09:48 AM)

3. Inspektor 17992 Zulkifli B. Mamat (Syahid) terbunuh apabila pengganas Sulu melakukan sikap keji apabila berpura-pura mengibarkan bendera putih sebagai isyarat mahu menyerah diri.

4. Zulkifli yang merupakan ketua pasukan, menyangka musuh berniat baik lantas bangun dari posisi bertahan dan serentak itu, peluru dari penembak tepat dilepaskan dan menembusi kepala Allahyarham.

5. Koperal 113088 Sabarudin B. Daud (Syahid) yang bangun membantu turut terkena peluru dari penempak tepat, maka gugurlah kedua perwira bangsa.


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yinchet , i tot they fall because of mortar attack ?

I misunderstand ? rclxub.gif

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so the mutilation torture is true?
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these bastards will skull scalp our soldiers when they are captured alive, kill themm all!
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so the mutilation torture is true?
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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 8 2013, 09:56 AM)
yinchet , i tot they fall because of mortar attack ?

I misunderstand ? rclxub.gif
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there is many story behind.
but I think these probably the most accurate 1.
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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 8 2013, 09:59 AM)
base on various source, yup.. it is true..
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Mar 8 2013, 09:57 AM)
so the mutilation torture is true?
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PDRM fb(i cant find it) said it is true - picture is been kept to honour the dead maybe.

@yinchet - 1000 gunmen is it? whoaaa
so our risik has done a really good job la
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why malaysia dont have attack droids? every year belanja so much on military.
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u think our military budget very high a?

or u think military stuff very cheap?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 8 2013, 10:00 AM)
there is many story behind.
but I think these probably the most accurate 1.
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ooo... ok.. cry.gif

damn those intruders ... ptuiiii.... vmad.gif mad.gif


any source of evidence that the intruders mis-use wite flag ?

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why malaysia dont have attack droids? every year belanja so much on military.
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dupe mana lak ni? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kekacakan @ Mar 8 2013, 10:01 AM)
PDRM fb(i cant find it) said it is true - picture is been kept to honour the dead maybe.

@yinchet - 1000 gunmen is it? whoaaa
so our risik has done a really good job la
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I hope the mutilation was done on the corpses rather than when they're still alive.
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Mar 8 2013, 09:55 AM)
the official stance from the Philippine is against these retards not support them. International observer will hold that account on them.

let them claim all they like. Bark all they want even if Philippine support them, Sabah will nvr be theirs on the basis of their claim.
International Court of Justice
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UN already accepted cobbold commission, ICJ already ruled it in our favor in the past under similar claim, they want to bark go ahead la. If they dare bring it up to ICJ la.
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Betul...sabah is not like batu putih where only birds live on it... Sabah citizen has willingly opt to join malaysia, n im sure 99.9% of sabahan hate this tiram satannate
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we shall start new round of propaganda waves against those pirates...
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QUOTE(kekacakan @ Mar 8 2013, 10:01 AM)
PDRM fb(i cant find it) said it is true - picture is been kept to honour the dead maybe.

@yinchet - 1000 gunmen is it? whoaaa
so our risik has done a really good job la
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1000 gunmen unlikely lor.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 8 2013, 09:53 AM)
not sure.
but safety is important.
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yup..true also.. nod.gif

QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Mar 8 2013, 09:54 AM)
why? adik tak sabar nak pi skolah ke?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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tnya tuk kawan bang..dia keja kat skola sahabat 16 tuu... red zone tuu sad.gif
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Mar 8 2013, 09:57 AM)
so the mutilation torture is true?
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Yup, seen the pictures..

QUOTE(Frankzel @ Mar 8 2013, 10:01 AM)
why malaysia dont have attack droids? every year belanja so much on military.
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thoase attack drodis are on duty for Star Wars
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:22 AM)
During that time they surely bring ration and still have time to cook rice  during negotiation.. But since last week no time to light fire.
On another note, kroni mana yg dapat direct tender supply catering untuk ops daulat ? 7 batalion tu. Mesti mark up harga military sebab menu top secret. Mohon keadilandaily commando pergi siasat dan bongkar.
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no, they are eating food from kedai 1 malaysia, 1 plate baru rm3 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 8 2013, 09:56 AM)
yinchet , i tot they fall because of mortar attack ?

I misunderstand ? rclxub.gif
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if you have seen their bodies pictures , you could see not much damage on the outside that could be caused by mortar but their face/head area is covered, this is normal but you know...
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Nobody mention how on earth we can invite them for Teh tarik session yet not properly control their movement during the talks....we are more interested in more military budgets, attack Heli, joint efforts, kill em all, stuff like that....and this situation is becoming so bad that it is playing into other ppl hands.
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QUOTE(Frankzel @ Mar 8 2013, 10:03 AM)
our military budget is very high. thats for sure. I am sure it is possible to buy a droid or 2.
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define very high? if malaysia is very high, then USA is very very high? or very very very very high? or super ultimiate kamen rider high? or ultimate super the sun moon ultraman son gouku high?

yea...with our budget every year, can buy some droid maybe...but then later...where is our attack chopper? where is our sub? where is our aircraft carrier? where is our ICBM? why air asia?




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QUOTE(Frankzel @ Mar 8 2013, 10:01 AM)
why malaysia dont have attack droids? every year belanja so much on military.
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Halo abang...4.5bil+usd per year for military is considered relatively small la for a country...
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tnya tuk kawan bang..dia keja kat skola sahabat 16 tuu... red zone tuu sad.gif
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masih red zone, suh member lepak2 je la kt umah, tak pun, mobilise utk bantu sojar2 kita, wat la gotong royong masak makanan ke utk sojar2..

QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 8 2013, 10:05 AM)
Nobody mention how on earth we can invite them for Teh tarik session yet not properly control their movement during the talks....we are more interested in more military budgets, attack Heli, joint efforts, kill em all, stuff like that....and this situation is becoming so bad that it is playing into other ppl hands.
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nego period pun took close to 3 weeks..faham2 sendirik la..kalau cakap, kang ada lak geng senaman pungkok wat demo depan umah aku tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Nak tanye la, yg Tabung Wira Lahad Datu tu untuk family anggota yg terkorban ke untuk penduduk kat sana yg affected n tak cukup makan/minum?
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masih red zone, suh member lepak2 je la kt umah, tak pun, mobilise utk bantu sojar2 kita, wat la gotong royong masak makanan ke utk sojar2..
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QUOTE(Frankzel @ Mar 8 2013, 10:03 AM)
our military budget is very high. thats for sure. I am sure it is possible to buy a droid or 2.
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dupe sapa ni
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Brunei has spoken: Sulu are Scammers !! denies Sulu claims

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CA Majul in his book Muslims in the Philippines (1973) referred to a letter from Sultan Jamalul Azam of Sulu to the Governor General of Spain on 17 September 1879 that the coast area from Kimanis to Balikpapan was to pay tribute to the Sultan which he said proved that the Brunei territory facing Suluk was ceded to Suluk.

Interestingly enough, Pehin Jamil Umar writing in his book, Tarsilah Brunei II: Period of Splendour and Fame (2007), countered all of the above. Pehin Jamil did not deny the fact that the Sulus were invited and promised the northern Brunei territory by Sultan Muhydin if they helped him win the civil war against Sultan Abdul Mubin. However, during the battle for Pulau Cermin, the Sulu forces who were supposed to attack the island from Pulau Keingaran and from the sea, did not do so. They were terrified by the resistance of Sultan Abdul Mubin's forces in Pulau Cermin. It was only after Sultan Muhydin had won the battle did the Sulu forces landed and took the opportunity to seize a number of war booties.

According to Pehin Jamil, Sultan Muhydin refused to cede the territories claimed by Sulu. Pehin Jamil noted that the area was only "claimed" and not "ceded", as Sir Stamford Raffles, in his book "History of Java" (1830), had noted "on the north-east of Borneo proper (Brunei) lies a very considerable territory (Sabah), the sovereignty of which has long been claimed by Sulu Government".

Pehin Jamil further noted that according to the oral tradition, Sulu continued to press their claim. In 1775, one of their chiefs came to Brunei pretending to seek fresh water. What they really wanted was to seek an audience with the Sultan regarding Sabah. However, the Sultan ordered one of the chief wazirs to see them and he threatened that if they wanted to pursue their intention, he will kill them all. The Sulus immediately left. Despite that setback, the Sulus continue to maintain their claims.

The argument that Brunei has not ceded Sabah to Sulu is supported by LR Wright in her book The Origins of British Borneo (1970). She wrote: "indeed, the legitimacy of the Sulu claim to the territory (North Borneo) is in considerable doubt partly because of the unreliability of tarsilas such as 'Selesilah', which in many cases are nothing more than written-down legends to enhance the status of the royal house which produced them. Succeeding Sultans of Brunei have denied that northern Borneo was given to Sulu, and only the weight of Sulu tradition supports the claim. The weight of Brunei tradition challenges it".

The Sulu claim is currently resting on that treaty which was mentioned at the beginning of this article signed by Sultan Jamalalulazam of Sulu appointing Baron de Overbeck as Dato Bendahara and Raja Sandakan on 22nd January 1878. But at the beginning of this article, there is, in fact, another treaty which was signed earlier by Sultan Abdul Momin appointing Baron de Overbeck as the Maharaja Sabah, Rajah Gaya and Sandakan signed on 29th December 1877. In 1877, the Brunei Sultanate then still believed and maintained that the territory was in fact still under the control of the Brunei Sultanate.

Another interesting document is the British North Borneo Treaties Protocol of 1885 signed in Madrid, which is also known as the Madrid Protocol of 1885, a copy of which can be found on Sabah State Attorney General's website. It was signed by the British, Germany and Spain who was the predecessor government of the Philippines. The two most important articles are Article I British and Germany recognising the sovereignty of Spain over the Sulu Archipelago and Article III Spain relinquishing all claims to Borneo.

This article serves only to point out that past events have repercussions on the present and more so if the past events were not clearly defined as in this particular case.
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wtf, i read utusan put out those 2 pictures of the beheaded police ?
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Sometimes wish there is a real time running camera for public to see.

now just rely on news.
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apa kata hang p sana bawak 1 camera... buat live stream tuk kami semua..

win-win..hang dpt tngok live, kami pun dpat.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Frankzel @ Mar 8 2013, 10:11 AM)
Sometimes wish there is a real time running camera for public to see.

now just rely on news.
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so..................terrorists can sit and watch while transmitting live info to the gang ? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Malaysian Marines @ Mar 8 2013, 09:20 AM)
Nak identify bukan malaysian.

Tanya rukun negara in kl.
Sure ramai mati kena pancung
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1.siapa ka org paling kaya di malaysia?
a. mamakthir
b. taib
c. bill gates
d. big mama

2. who control current malaysia economy?
a. bong moktar
b. syed moktar
d. big mama
e. anak mamakthir

3. who is sharizat, wats her contribution for malaysia? (pls write an essay not less than 100words)

if can jawab means malaysian (1 question not limit to 1 answer)

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wtf, i read utusan put out those 2 pictures of the beheaded police ?
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Brunei denies Sulu claims on Sabah

Rupa-rupanya they are thieves!

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just found out my best friend is in LD to cover for one of the mainstream newspaper. just got back from gaza, n now have to go to LD.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Mar 8 2013, 10:07 AM)
nego period pun took close to 3 weeks..faham2 sendirik la..kalau cakap, kang ada lak geng senaman pungkok wat demo depan umah aku  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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So, dalam masa 3 minggu tu buat apa? Nego aje ke? Biarkan beberapa kerat anggota polis jaga check point cam jaga mat rempit? Become easy target for the Sulu Warriors. Lepas kena serang baru nak hantar battalion askar untuk clean up the mess.


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Brunei denies Sulu claims on Sabah

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:58 AM)
philstar is most oushum.

reminds me of the " nenek mati dilangar beca " something, i think if for philstar the news will be

"the grandmother of sultan sulu is dead after being knock down by sukhoi helicopter from malaysia because it is believed that she holds the document that will proof that the whole kalimantan is owned by sultan sulu"
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Buletin Utama – “Nenek meninggal dunia, pemandu beca dicari”

Harian Metro – “Hangat! Nenek mati dengan ubi di tangan”

Utusan Malaysia – “Nenek mati dilanggar beca satu propaganda pembangkang?”

Harakah – “Kami tiada beca”

Malaysiakini – “Beca langgar lari bukti kerajaan makan rasuah”

Twitter @NajibRazak – “Nenek sanggup mati kerana ubi, menunjukkan ubi 1Malaysia berkualiti dan digemari rakyat”

Blog Melayu paranoid – “Keraguan sijil halal ubi mungkin punca nenek mati dilanggar beca”

Ibrahim Ali – “Sampai bila kita nak tengok nenek-nenek Melayu mati dilanggar beca akibat ubi orang Cina dan India? Melayu perlu bangun menentang!”

Pancaindera – “Kisah nenek dilanggar beca diabadikan dalam filem terbaru David Teo, Beca Gangster.”

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QUOTE(meazurali89 @ Mar 8 2013, 10:15 AM)
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QUOTE(kaoshi @ Mar 8 2013, 10:17 AM)
Buletin Utama – “Nenek meninggal dunia, pemandu beca dicari”

Harian Metro – “Hangat! Nenek mati dengan ubi di tangan”

Utusan Malaysia – “Nenek mati dilanggar beca satu propaganda pembangkang?”

Harakah – “Kami tiada beca”

Malaysiakini – “Beca langgar lari bukti kerajaan makan rasuah”

Twitter @NajibRazak – “Nenek sanggup mati kerana ubi, menunjukkan ubi 1Malaysia berkualiti dan digemari rakyat”

Blog Melayu paranoid – “Keraguan sijil halal ubi mungkin punca nenek mati dilanggar beca”

Ibrahim Ali – “Sampai bila kita nak tengok nenek-nenek Melayu mati dilanggar beca akibat ubi orang Cina dan India? Melayu perlu bangun menentang!”

Pancaindera – “Kisah nenek dilanggar beca diabadikan dalam filem terbaru David Teo, Beca Gangster.”

Mastika – “Misteri penarik beca: temubual eksklusif dengan hantu ubi”
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not this shiat again
so 2008
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QUOTE(kaoshi @ Mar 8 2013, 10:17 AM)
Buletin Utama – “Nenek meninggal dunia, pemandu beca dicari”

Harian Metro – “Hangat! Nenek mati dengan ubi di tangan”

Utusan Malaysia – “Nenek mati dilanggar beca satu propaganda pembangkang?”

Harakah – “Kami tiada beca”

Malaysiakini – “Beca langgar lari bukti kerajaan makan rasuah”

Twitter @NajibRazak – “Nenek sanggup mati kerana ubi, menunjukkan ubi 1Malaysia berkualiti dan digemari rakyat”

Blog Melayu paranoid – “Keraguan sijil halal ubi mungkin punca nenek mati dilanggar beca”

Ibrahim Ali – “Sampai bila kita nak tengok nenek-nenek Melayu mati dilanggar beca akibat ubi orang Cina dan India? Melayu perlu bangun menentang!”

Pancaindera – “Kisah nenek dilanggar beca diabadikan dalam filem terbaru David Teo, Beca Gangster.”

Mastika – “Misteri penarik beca: temubual eksklusif dengan hantu ubi”
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QUOTE(kaoshi @ Mar 8 2013, 10:17 AM)
Buletin Utama – “Nenek meninggal dunia, pemandu beca dicari”

Harian Metro – “Hangat! Nenek mati dengan ubi di tangan”

Utusan Malaysia – “Nenek mati dilanggar beca satu propaganda pembangkang?”

Harakah – “Kami tiada beca”

Malaysiakini – “Beca langgar lari bukti kerajaan makan rasuah”

Twitter @NajibRazak – “Nenek sanggup mati kerana ubi, menunjukkan ubi 1Malaysia berkualiti dan digemari rakyat”

Blog Melayu paranoid – “Keraguan sijil halal ubi mungkin punca nenek mati dilanggar beca”

Ibrahim Ali – “Sampai bila kita nak tengok nenek-nenek Melayu mati dilanggar beca akibat ubi orang Cina dan India? Melayu perlu bangun menentang!”

Pancaindera – “Kisah nenek dilanggar beca diabadikan dalam filem terbaru David Teo, Beca Gangster.”

Mastika – “Misteri penarik beca: temubual eksklusif dengan hantu ubi”
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QUOTE(kaoshi @ Mar 8 2013, 11:17 AM)
Buletin Utama – “Nenek meninggal dunia, pemandu beca dicari”

Harian Metro – “Hangat! Nenek mati dengan ubi di tangan”

Utusan Malaysia – “Nenek mati dilanggar beca satu propaganda pembangkang?”

Harakah – “Kami tiada beca”

Malaysiakini – “Beca langgar lari bukti kerajaan makan rasuah”

Twitter @NajibRazak – “Nenek sanggup mati kerana ubi, menunjukkan ubi 1Malaysia berkualiti dan digemari rakyat”

Blog Melayu paranoid – “Keraguan sijil halal ubi mungkin punca nenek mati dilanggar beca”

Ibrahim Ali – “Sampai bila kita nak tengok nenek-nenek Melayu mati dilanggar beca akibat ubi orang Cina dan India? Melayu perlu bangun menentang!”

Pancaindera – “Kisah nenek dilanggar beca diabadikan dalam filem terbaru David Teo, Beca Gangster.”

Mastika – “Misteri penarik beca: temubual eksklusif dengan hantu ubi”
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My friend is a journalist in ground zero, he told me two interesting believes among the local population

1. Nobody believe the death toll reach 52 caused lots of the gunmen sneaked out in the two weeks before air strikes.

2. The leader is umno Leader in kk
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QUOTE(Frankzel @ Mar 8 2013, 10:18 AM)
Brunei rather be neighbours with decent Sabahans than barbaric Sulus.
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only in physical copy i think, and i got it from another forum, i dont have today's utusan.
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utusan post the pic bodies and the head and oso the isi hati perut on the floor..sleep.gif
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brunei ppl always go labuan find pinoy gals laugh.gif
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utusan post the pic bodies and the head and oso the isi hati perut on the floor.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(11c @ Mar 8 2013, 10:23 AM)
My friend is a journalist in ground zero, he told me two interesting believes among the local population

1. Nobody believe the death toll reach 52 caused lots of the gunmen sneaked out in the two weeks before air strikes.

2. The leader is umno Leader in kk
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not this shiat again
so 2008
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utusan post the pic bodies and the head and oso the isi hati perut on the floor..sleep.gif
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Serious shit mang!!
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those pinoy gals very hot, labuan = paradise
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utusan post the pic bodies and the head and oso the isi hati perut on the floor.. sweat.gif
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wait la..i thought someone alredi want to scan n post the pic utusan news..later u see..the pic itself got kabur2 a bit la..
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philstar pusing lagi



UN: End Sabah violence
first part tu ok bila dah bawah2 makin mengarut

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MANILA, Philippines - United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called yesterday for an end to violence in Sabah, where clashes between Malaysian forces and armed followers of Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III have left up to 60 people dead.

The UN chief also said he “encourages dialogue among all the parties for a peaceful resolution of the situation.”

“He urges all parties to facilitate delivery of humanitarian assistance and act in full respect of international human rights norms and standards,” Ban’s spokesperson said in a statement.

Kiram declared a unilateral ceasefire in response to Ban’s call. Although Malaysia rejected a ceasefire, Kiram declared a “cessation of hostilities.” He told his followers to end the fighting and urged Malaysia to stop attacking positions of his “royal sultanate army.”

The sultan urged Malaysia to reciprocate his action in the name of Islamic tolerance.

He asked his brother, Agbimuddin Kiram, to take a defensive stand in Lahad Datu.

Headlines ( Article MRec ), pagematch: 1, sectionmatch: 1


Agbimuddin led some 300 men – some armed – across the Sulu Sea to settle in Sabah and assert sovereignty over  the territory.

Despite Malaysia’s rejection of Kiram’s ceasefire offer, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said the Philippine government would continue to explore ways to prevent further bloodshed and loss of livelihood.

“Our aim has not changed. We will explore all possibilities to save lives and avoid bloodshed. The suggestion of a unilateral ceasefire (appears) to be one of the options,” the DFA said in a statement.

Malaysia ignored on Tuesday the Philippines’ request for maximum tolerance in dealing with Kiram’s followers and launched on the same day massive ground and air assault on the Filipinos in Lahad Datu.

Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario flew to Kuala Lumpur on Monday to personally convey the Philippines’ request to his Malaysian counterpart Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Anifah Aman and to continue discussions on how to avert further loss of lives.

His requests included the establishment by Malaysia of a “safety corridor” for the children, women and civilians not involved in the hostility between the sultan’s followers and Malaysian authorities.

The DFA said Malaysia was considering the request but had not issued an official response.

Another Philippine request was for Malaysia to allow a humanitarian ship to dock in Lahad Datu.

The Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) welcomed the UN’s entering the picture.

“We are very happy because this has been our repeated call, appealing for the intervention of the United Nations,” said Habib Mujahab Hashim, MNLF’s Islamic Command Council (ICC) chairman.

Hashim also appealed to the MNLF forces preparing to cross over to Sabah to abandon their plan.

“We appeal to our brothers to immediately stand down any of its action and those who have intent to reinforce not to go,” Hashim said.

Peacekeepers needed

With Malaysia’s rejection of the Sulu sultanate’s ceasefire offer, the UN should consider deploying peacekeeping forces in Sabah to prevent further bloodshed, the MNLF also said.

“We are hoping the UN will deploy a buffer force,” MNLF spokesman Emmanuel Fontanilla said in a text message to The STAR.

He said that the sultanate’s forces may be forced to fight back if Malaysian forces try to finish them off once and for all.

He said such campaign by Malaysian forces would be very costly because the sultanate’s forces were trained in real battle in Mindanao, as many of them had fought the Philippine government as members of the MNLF.

Furthermore, they know the terrain of Sabah, having trained in the territory for decades.

“They’re used to dealing with jet fighters as well as ground and naval bombardments and the only way to end the fighting is for both parties to sit down and talk,” Fontanilla said, adding that Malaysia would be facing a bigger security problem if it refuses to talk peace with the sultanate.

He said the same thing should also be expected by the Aquino administration for its “mishandling” of the Sabah conflict.

Malaysia said it would only agree to a ceasefire if the sultanate’s fighters surrender unconditionally.

“Surrender? It’s unacceptable. They will fight to the death. For the Tausug fighters it’s victory or graveyard,” Fontanilla said.

Another MNLF official who declined to be named said that with the turn of events, Lahad Datu is emerging as a guerilla front.

“Sabah is going to be a real headache for the Malaysians. The Malaysians have opened an insurgency problem in Sabah by firing the first shot,” the MNLF official said.

He also said that if Malaysia is really winning in the frontline, it should immediately lift the news blackout and let the world know the real score. With Roel Pareño, Jaime Laude


http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/03/...-sabah-violence
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QUOTE(kaoshi @ Mar 8 2013, 10:17 AM)
Buletin Utama – “Nenek meninggal dunia, pemandu beca dicari”

Harian Metro – “Hangat! Nenek mati dengan ubi di tangan”

Utusan Malaysia – “Nenek mati dilanggar beca satu propaganda pembangkang?”

Harakah – “Kami tiada beca”

Malaysiakini – “Beca langgar lari bukti kerajaan makan rasuah”

Twitter @NajibRazak – “Nenek sanggup mati kerana ubi, menunjukkan ubi 1Malaysia berkualiti dan digemari rakyat”

Blog Melayu paranoid – “Keraguan sijil halal ubi mungkin punca nenek mati dilanggar beca”

Ibrahim Ali – “Sampai bila kita nak tengok nenek-nenek Melayu mati dilanggar beca akibat ubi orang Cina dan India? Melayu perlu bangun menentang!”

Pancaindera – “Kisah nenek dilanggar beca diabadikan dalam filem terbaru David Teo, Beca Gangster.”

Mastika – “Misteri penarik beca: temubual eksklusif dengan hantu ubi”
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Lahad Datu: Lapan lelaki termasuk seorang warga emas dikenali sebagai Mat Bom bersama lapan pengikutnya dipercayai saki-baki pengganas ditahan ketika cuba masuk ke Dewan Serbaguna Embara Budi untuk menyamar sebagai penduduk kampung, petang kelmarin.

Dalam kejadian jam 5 petang itu, lelaki berpakaian seperti orang awam cuba mengaburi pasukan keselamatan, namun tidak berhasil selepas dia ditahan di depan pintu pagar dewan berkenaan yang dikawal ketat polis bantuan FELDA.

Menurut sumber, hasil pemeriksaan polis bantuan yang curiga dengan tindak-tanduk lelaki itu bersama lapan pengikutnya akhirnya membongkar taktik liciknya selepas dia difahamkan antara dalang membawa pengganas masuk ke Kampung Tanduo.

“Mat Bom yang juga penduduk Kampung Tanduo didakwa sering menghasut penduduk kampung supaya memberontak di sini.

“Dia juga sering mengedar risalah mengenai Kesultanan Sulu kepada penduduk kampung dan menghasut supaya mentaati Sultan Sulu,” katanya.

http://w1.hmetro.com.my/articles/MatBomditahan/Article


damn...its already confirm some of them already blend into local people to avoid being caught and what make thing worse some local sulu help them...farking hell vmad.gif
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so sad - mutilated body. too cruel and make me damn too angry
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Mar 8 2013, 10:29 AM)
Lahad Datu: Lapan lelaki termasuk seorang warga emas dikenali sebagai Mat Bom bersama lapan pengikutnya dipercayai saki-baki pengganas ditahan ketika cuba masuk ke Dewan Serbaguna Embara Budi untuk menyamar sebagai penduduk kampung, petang kelmarin.

Dalam kejadian jam 5 petang itu, lelaki berpakaian seperti orang awam cuba mengaburi pasukan keselamatan, namun tidak berhasil selepas dia ditahan di depan pintu pagar dewan berkenaan yang dikawal ketat polis bantuan FELDA.

Menurut sumber, hasil pemeriksaan polis bantuan yang curiga dengan tindak-tanduk lelaki itu bersama lapan pengikutnya akhirnya membongkar taktik liciknya selepas dia difahamkan antara dalang membawa pengganas masuk ke Kampung Tanduo.

“Mat Bom yang juga penduduk Kampung Tanduo didakwa sering menghasut penduduk kampung supaya memberontak di sini.

“Dia juga sering mengedar risalah mengenai Kesultanan Sulu kepada penduduk kampung dan menghasut supaya mentaati Sultan Sulu,” katanya.

http://w1.hmetro.com.my/articles/MatBomditahan/Article
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hukum pancung!!! vmad.gif
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semoga semua marksman penembak tepat Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) dapat hapuskan kesemua pengganas Sulu dengan secepat mungkin !! vmad.gif

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Told you guys yesterday, today's news headlines would be gruesome. Just hope this will harden our resolve to kick the Sulu terrorist out.

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