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trolls dah masuk balik bro, haih here we go again
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Mar 7 2013, 09:59 PM
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Mar 7 2013, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Mar 7 2013, 10:06 PM) But the United Kingdom decided to give up North Borneo, after it was turned over by the British North Borneo Company to the Federation of Malaysia, in favour of Malaysia’s independence. Results of the UN’s Malaysia Mission firmed up the establishment of the Federation of Malaysia on September 16, 1963. BODO PUNYE ORANG BODOThis post has been edited by C-Fu: Mar 7 2013, 10:09 PM |
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Mar 7 2013, 10:29 PM
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I'm quite pissed off with these pinoy shit medias. in the beginning they keep harping on studying sabah as part of pinoy la, malaysians are losing la, protect their people la, malaysians so bad la.
then when shit hits the fan, suddenly words like "terrorists" and all of these mindanao groups started their damage control, like misuari doesn't represent them la (which is untrue), kiram doesn't represent the sultan la (not true, ALL of them sanctioned him in their nov 2012 meeting, a month after the MILF-PH agreement by Msia), and all other bullshit that i couldn't be bothered to remember. and later when suddenly kiram surfaces and safe, they'll start claiming shit again. and what is worse, is that pinoys keep believing them like the sheep that they are. |
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Mar 7 2013, 10:36 PM
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Mar 7 2013, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 10:57 PM) bro there are a lot of kirams there are 9. all 9 of them have their own versions of who's eligible and who's notthis website not jamalul kiram III website 1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers 2. muedzul lail tan kiram 3. fuad kiram these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye read here http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/ |
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Mar 7 2013, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:17 PM) Wow thanks.. yinchet should add this on pg 1.. seems like the so called Sultan Jamalul is not even recognized by Pnoy govt. The rightful one although yet to be crowned should be Datu Muadzul Lai Tan Kiram it's actually THE RIGHTFUL ONE RECOGNIZED BY THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT OF PHILIPPINE. ![]() like during marcos time, he "chose" a person to be recognized by his government. aquino haven't officially recognized one, yet. It's related to this piece of news. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/368891/friend...to-marcos-years "MANILA, Philippines – The friendship between former national security adviser Norberto Gonzales and Sulu Sultan Jamalul III dates back to the time of the Marcos regime, a former police intelligence officer told Radyo INQUIRER 990 AM on Tuesday. Gonzales served during the administration of former President now Pampanga Representative Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. " Only in the Philippines you can be on a military watch-list at one time, and suddenly become a national security adviser in the next. |
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Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 7 2013, 11:35 PM) confuse already ,... everybody said there are the right sultan ... actually internal feuds are common among royalties. God knows we have our own shares of dumb feuds as well. it's all about power and control.if u have internal affair , just keep it in the family la ... no need to bring to others people 's turf ... but the main difference between us and them, is that while their "kingdom" is poor, all of them want control of two things: 1. the "royal" army. this is their 2nd biggest chest piece, that can help them control a "potential" 21 million people in Mindanao. with the army, they can sought control of 2. mindanao's mineral resource. mindanao's natural resource is HUGE. like we have oil, south thai got batu kapur, indon got coal, they have gold, food, plantation, iron ore, zinc. QUOTE It grows most of the Philippines' major crops such as rubber (100% of national production), pineapple (91%), cacao (90%) as well as banana, coffee, corn and coconut (over 50%). The island also produces exotic fruits like pomelo, mangosteen and durian. http://www.medco.gov.ph/medcoweb/mindanao.aspMindanao is likewise endowed with rich mineral resources. Its metallic deposits include lead, zinc, ore, iron, copper, chromite, magnetite and gold. Gold mined in Mindanao accounts for nearly half of the national gold reserves. Its non-metallic mineral resources include marble, salt, sand, gravel, silica, clay, and limestone. These "royalties" would often offer land to unsuspecting people, as they claim that they can issue land deeds without approval by the govt there. |
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM) No what I mean is we are paying that Fuad guy only FYI, Ulka T. Ulama is their lawyer.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Based on the article here: http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/ Why we dun pay to the rightful one? |
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QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:50 PM) if you read the comments in the article, loyer diorang ni ada position dalam council diorang gak.the money was not paid to fuad alone. the money was paid to a lawyer -ALKY ULLAMA - and ullama paid to 9 heirs so the letter is actually to tell fuad "hey sulu, go collect your money from your lawyer" stimix mana-mana yang kenal geologists, or miners boleh confirm what i wrote about mindanao kalau tak percaya This post has been edited by C-Fu: Mar 7 2013, 11:52 PM |
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OH. MY. GOD.
few pages back someone posted this link http://books.google.com.my/books?id=83BIxG...0ullama&f=false Damn this book is such a good read. I'm few pages in it already, and at least author die nampak very unbiased. damn man.... the creation of Malaysia by the British was a very strategic move by the old colonial powers man... semua country got butthurt by that |
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Mar 8 2013, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 8 2013, 12:23 AM) QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:27 AM) tried to buy in amazon, but not available in asia pacific takpe la, next few weeks I'll be going to France, so maybe I can get a hold of this book there. For those who're too lazy to read, basically the Cobbold Commision that we have come to know, interviewed about 4000 (only?) Sabahans and Sarawakians and the majority of them favoured Malaysia than joining Indon and Pinoy. So pretty much all of us have these 4000 silent champions of Malaysia to thank for |
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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Mar 8 2013, 12:46 AM) QUOTE(teo1957 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:49 AM) we... are actually the successor of a great military force. the child of a mighty king ini baru cerita pasal our land army history beb.you can come to kundasang war memorial and see for yourself Few years back I had the opportunity to meet up with a historian who spoke with great lengths about our LEGENDARY "orang laut" involvement in the British Navy, which is also documented (and at least, verified by me) in articles that I've read in the London Library. It's like the Black Hawk Down history, but made into a different movie called...... Pirates of the Carribean |
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:09 AM) I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories. By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims. Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation. Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid. So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence. ako ingat ako pandai gile bab tapi ada lagi orang yang lagi cepat tangkap dari ako |
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 8 2013, 01:36 AM) thank you for the correction about nurmisuari. Through the negotiation of bangsamoro, MNLF was not consulted and this annoyed them. sekarang distance la bro. before this they still claim Sabah belongs to them. now?only MILF involved during it. MILF has made the right move to distance themselves from MNLF tha supports Kiram. however,i agree our Minister of Foreign Affairs has done a great job in physocological warfare against Kiram. He is a Sabahan,Boleh ba kalau kau no comment je |
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:53 AM) The MNLF are trying to be 'abang' for the Moro as their 'adik' MILF is already top dog at the moment being acknowledged and recognized by Malaysia and the Philipine. So the MNLF by supporting the Suluk initially, it would actually raise a lot of Sulu support for their own organization. But it back-fired of course so now they are doing damage control and suddenly releasing un-told stories of how they were in the back ground trying to negotiate/defuse tension etc. Previously habok pun tak nampak. Well their PR is pretty good actually. Very professional, cover-all-bases sorta thing.http://bangsamoromnlf.blogspot.com/2013/02...f-sulu.html?m=1 QUOTE Saturday, February 23, 2013 ANSWER: That is not part of the MNLF Sabah Recovery Project and MNLF Sabah PREMS Deal. That landing is not sanctioned by MNLF. If they were able to land that easily, it seems to appear that Malaysia is stupid, and I don't think Malaysia is stupid. So it appears more to me as a stage show. I don't know who are the parties behind that stage play, maybe Malaysia and Philippines is behind that stage play -- let's wait a little more and read the news further, because we can see the script of the stage show in how the news is presented. Some people say that I should take that landing as an indicator that it is easy to land in Sabah; but I don't buy the deception. When time comes for MNLF to land in Sabah, we send in at least 10,000 men in first batch and we expect heavy artillery, air assault, and even submarine and naval repulse by the Malaysian Army. I will make the first say if it is MNLF sanctioned. I will keenly observe and make the last say since it is not. |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 8 2013, 02:45 AM) I was taken in (IINM) 2005/2006 media open day, it was 338 lapua live bullet! QFTIt was announced by the MC, and you can actually see the ammo at the top of the table Even if it's rubber, he still need training to be that accurate. and there's no point for PGKs to train to be accurate with just rubber bullet, IMO ![]() tido wei tido |
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QUOTE(azzry @ Mar 8 2013, 11:25 AM) suddenly i wonder; is it that hard for the authorities to find the root is these sms? sape yg memula sekali send susah ke nk cari? this is a question, i just curious. finding the source is easy.but containing the spread of (false) information is difficult. like the mexican drug cartel video, disguised as sululz video. SKMM already found who started this whole fake shit. but when every dumbass reposted and keep asking and making others curious, finding the source becomes an almost worthless exercise. |
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