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> Lahad Datu Stand-off. v9[Serious], Ops Daulat 53 kills

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cukobi
post Mar 8 2013, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Mar 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
I think labelling them "terrorist" have done wonders. This is also being picked up by foreign news and also the respective country's travel advisories.

By labelling them as terrorist, Malaysia now has the right to freeze assets of the said perpetrators and their sympathisers. If the US also label them as terrorist and recognized their terror acts, then they can say bye bye to any international recognition to their Sultanate claims.

Which I believe is the main reason why suddenly MNLF and whatever F is announcing that they are not in any way supporting the struggle or even suggesting any violent means to achieve it. Because at the current moment, they are still a recognized entity in the Philipines and the world. Imagine if suddenly their organisation being labeled as terrorist and funding of terrorist, it would do extreme harm to their fight for the Bangsamoro cause. They would be hunted down like the Jemaah Islamyiaah group. The US in Philipines will also be lending support in terms of surveillence, intel etc. In other words, diplomatically they would have killed their own aspirations as a nation.

Also the MNLF committee which was previously very quiet on the matter suddenly released a statement regarding their non-support for the Suluk cause and reject their armed struggle philosophy. And instead suggest diplomatic ways to discuss the matter. Also they even have to censure their own founder Nur Misuari for claiming MNLF is sending 10k troops and threatening Manila and KL will be targets if Suluks are harmed. This only makes them look more like terrorist which is what they are trying to avoid.

So in short, the Suluks are now caught between their pride and their future as a recognized entity. If they do not renounce their violent struggle, they just torpedoed their only escape from being labelled a terrorist group. MNLF has officially remounce their support for armed Suluk struggle for Sabah. MILF which is friendlier to Malaysia also announced that this has nothing to do with them and does not see any need for violence.
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dude...nice writing,,,,, why not send it to press or other blog... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 8 2013, 08:58 PM)
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...-safe-in-sabah/

Family: Agbimuddin hungry but safe in Sabah
MARCH 08, 2013

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Jacel (left) said women and children are being shot indiscriminately. – File pic

MANILA, March 8 — Rebel leader Agbimuddin Kiram’s family told local media that Agbimuddin and his band of rebels are safe in Lahad Datu, although they are now suffering from hunger because of constantly evading Malaysian security forces’ relentless assault, the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported today.

The Inquirer reported that Abraham Idjirani, spokesperson of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, also confirmed that members of the Kirams’  Royal Security Forces have “regrouped”.

“They are constantly moving, not by boat, not by any means of transportation but by themselves.… They are on foot.… They are suffering from hunger,” Idjirani said at a press conference.

The report also said Idjirani was able to talk to Agbimuddin at around 2:30pm today.

Earlier, Jamalul Kiram’s daughter, Jacel Kiram, told the media that her uncle was safe in Lahad Datu but lambasted what she described as “maximum violence” unleashed by the Malaysian police and military.

“I was able to speak to one woman (in Tawi-Tawi) who kept on crying because she said children and women were being shot. While there was a call for maximum tolerance, there is indiscriminate firing (by the Malaysians).

“Maximum violence is what is happening.

“The instruction for them is to be always on the defensive, just be ready for any assault or attack. Just defense, no attack,” she said.

“Unfortunately, Malaysia is emboldened and decided to finish off the Filipinos in Sabah. It is clear that the government of PNoy  is very much in support of the Malaysian government.

“We pray and hope the President’s being Filipino would prevail so that he would address the situation in Sabah.”

She added that the fighting in Lahad Datu could not have happened had the emissaries of Malacanang been “efficient and effective.”

“What we need is to talk because if they really want to resolve this peacefully, our government should prove that. We want to talk if Malaysia wants to end this peacefully. We want to talk, but why don’t they want to talk to us?” Jacel was quoted as saying.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer also stated that Agbimuddin told Idjirani to ask the media’s help in “influencing Malaysia to follow the call of the United Nations to take heed of sobriety and dialogue with the Sultanate of Sulu.”
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simple answer....when you're start killing our men..

all hell break loose... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 8 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(athlonmax @ Mar 8 2013, 10:21 PM)
We're at war? Really?  whistling.gif
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no...no...not war..
we're just target practice exercise.... with live ammo... brows.gif

banyak inventori..kena habiskan dulu....kan lima dah nak start....bley order baru... baru ada tempat nak simpan new toys... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(son of God @ Mar 9 2013, 10:42 PM)
A2. I don't go well with pedants(Recall I said I was uncertain of the usage of term). Forgive me, as I recall they did have a conflict. Non-violent though. Are you trying to discredit me with with some unrelated historical question?
You're incredibly clever for correcting me, do you feel so proud now? GOOD ON YOU.
Now back on the topic- can I read news on both sides online, and from a neutral party? It's terribly confusing. And I'm still reading the first page of this thread.
Peace.
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want to read from thread version 1? wow...good luck...

you quote from wikipedia? wikipedia? rclxub.gif don't you know anybody could edit it....try find other reliable source..
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post Mar 9 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Mar 9 2013, 10:49 PM)
Dayumm they got RPG's ?? I saw on the news their most advanced is automatic rifle, like M16, also M203 grenade launcher...
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jgn terkejet... ada radio...night vision goggle..in previous post got pic of it... smile.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Mar 10 2013, 01:16 PM)
please do a backup copy for the pdf man. they might catch up and try to delete it.
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here's the page...all in pdf....lets all download it and keep... icon_rolleyes.gif

http://www.web2pdfconvert.com/download?pat...blogspot-kr.pdf
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post Mar 10 2013, 01:40 PM

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well..smells fishy.. seems like the pinoy gov already planned this long time ago...document about creating united states of Philippine already out there many years ago..

perhaps...they send kiram's follower 1st.. when 2016 comes, the united states of philippine is active...and from the document sez...guest what....north borneo (sabah) is one of the state...

when that happen...perhaps in future they will bring this thing to UN and declare us malaysia as intruder...

SOS tiram[cool.gif


i've read in mnlf blog...they suggest the sultan of sulu give the right of their 'claimed' land to the pinoy gov and the pinoy gov will claimed it as part of united states of pinoy.. later on the gov will declare north borneo as kiram's territory.

bau bewok weh !! shakehead.gif

must have been some super power backing this shit up...no way the pinoy gov got balls to do this on their own..

must be this or i'm too 'high' right now.. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by cukobi: Mar 10 2013, 01:51 PM
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post Mar 10 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Mar 10 2013, 01:30 PM)
signed liao, waiting others.
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signed oledi....suddenly i'm sabahan... brows.gif

maroh mok kawe karey... har har icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 10 2013, 02:07 PM)
i wonder if US can put their believe in politically unstable pinoy

US also having a bad time with pinoy gomen...pinoy's corruption & transparency are much much worst than malaysia..

thats why they awal2 lagi say they dont want to interfere when kiram ask US help
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ya lor....suddenly i remember the bond between iraq and the us when they face iran...didn't they like best buddies or something...you suap i...i suap you.. brows.gif
suddenly all hell break loose in iraq... American declare all out war with his previous so called buddies..

let see where this thing end up... hopefully nothing crappy on our side when the conspiracy backed by the super power happens.... yawn.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 02:16 PM

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weh yinchet...open up new thread laaa...124 pages oledi...

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