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teo1957
post Mar 7 2013, 10:09 PM

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Lahad Datu: Philippines NBI admits sending agents to Sulu Sultan's house

MANILA: An official of the National Bureau of Investigation admitted sending its agents to the house of Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III.

NBI's Intelligence Services deputy director Reynaldo Esmeralda said it was a legitimate operation allowed by his office and that of Deputy Director Ruel Lasala on Special Investigation Services.

“The task of our people was to monitor the premises of the Kiram family,” Esmeralda said.

When asked why the agents posed as member of the media, he said “if there is difficulty of getting inside the Kiram residence, they will ask the help of the members of the media na kaibigan namin (who are our friends).”

Esmeralda said they were introduced to Mrs Kiram by TV5 reporter Carla Lim as NBI agents

“They were entertained by Mrs Kiram. They were even given refreshments,” he said.

In getting information, Esmeralda explained that they either do covert or open operations or a combination of both.

“Here, they only want to blend in with the crowd but they were introduced by Carla Lim as NBI agents.

"There was a misunderstanding on that aspect.
That was the fault on the part of our agents. After they were introduced as NBI agents, they should have given the Kirams their calling card or ID,” he said. - Philippine Daily Inquirer

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4834&sec=nation


shud read tis y'all.

pilak's agents masquerading as media and went into kirams house with TV reporter.

suddenly TV reporter go tell kiram the guys are agents.

epic phail for incompetent pilaks
teo1957
post Mar 7 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 7 2013, 10:25 PM)
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bro this is a pic of either haji musa or majid - both sulu soldiers said to be fighting between themselves

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SABAHKINI.NET menerima maklumat tidak rasmi daripada koresponden bahawa dua daripada 300 orang ketumbukan tentera 'Sultan Sulu' di Kampung Tanduwau, Tungku telah ditembak mati.

Bagaimanapun kata sumber itu lagi, kematian mereka bukan disebabkan tembakan pihak berkuasa Malaysia; sebaliknya bergaduh sesama sendiri kerana kehabisan bekalan makanan dan berselisih pendapat.

Kematian dua tentera itu akan menyebabkan keadaan tegang sebelum ini mungkin akan reda kerana sebahagian besar anggota tentera Sultan Sulu ingin pulang secara aman selagi diberikan ruang dan peluang oleh Kerajaan Malaysia.

Dua mangsa yang terbunuh dikenali sebagai Haji Musa dan Majid. Menurut Koresponden Sabahkini.net, beliau dan saksi lain mendengar antara enam hingga 10 bunyi tembakan; namun jumlah sebenar kematian dan kecederaan belum dapat disahkan.


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post Mar 7 2013, 10:44 PM

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this is the real agbimuddin.

can somebody post this on the 1st page? ive posted this too many times oledi

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'Invaders old and starving'
Group not seen as posing immediate threat to security of country
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 14:35
by Terence Fernandez
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KUALA LUMPUR

Lahad Datu

WE HAVE RIGHTS: Agbimuddin (right) and an aide during a negotiation session
A BUNCH of old men with rusty rifles. This best describes the invaders of Felda Sahabat 17 in Kampung Tanduo, who have been holed up in the village near Lahad Datu since Feb 12.

Led by Crown Prince Agbimuddin Kiram, who is in his mid-60s, the 180-member group, which includes five women, is also starving because of a blockade by Malaysian security forces comprising the police, General Operations Force and the armed forces.

Agbimuddin is the brother of Jamalul Kiram, the Sultan of Sulu. Sources told The Malay Mail that more than half of the invaders were over 50-years-old and only armed with rifles — explaining the government’s stand that the invaders pose no immediate threat to national security.

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WE HAVE RIGHTS: Agbimuddin (right) and an aide during a negotiation session

http://www.mmail.com.my/story/invaders-old...-starving-48943


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Kiri ke kanan ~Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram, Sultan Jamalul Kiram
III, Sultan Bantilan Esmail Kiram II and (berdiri dari kiri) Datu
Alianapia Kiram, Datu Phugdal Kiram and Datu Baduruddin Kiram

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post Mar 7 2013, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 7 2013, 10:54 PM)
hw can prince and sultan like same age  rclxub.gif

www.rumahbicarasulu.com  cool.gif
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bro there are a lot of kirams

this website not jamalul kiram III website

1. jamalul kiram III + esmail kiram + agbimuddin kiram - brothers

2. muedzul lail tan kiram

3. fuad kiram

these 3 parties all pretenders to the throne. not seeing eye to eye

read here
http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

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post Mar 7 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Mar 7 2013, 10:59 PM)
but in www.rumahbicarasulu.com the Tuanku Sultan Mudarasulail Alasatam Kiram said those are pirates and not blood related to the original Sulu Sultan  hmm.gif
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bro every kiram will say he is sultan and the others pirates

read this muedzul lail tan kiram - oso said same thing

http://www.fakesulusultans.com/


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post Mar 7 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(westcoastbay @ Mar 7 2013, 11:10 PM)
i see pnoy gov is doing their job

this is a new chart

probably as what was reported, because aquino has instructed presidential office to research on sabah claim
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 7 2013, 11:16 PM)
no more updates from the kiram spokesperson? did we miss our targets again? did their people escaped to sarawak already? did their invisibility tangkals work?
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theyre relaxing - MY just bomb MY armies oni
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:17 PM)
Wow thanks.. yinchet should add this on pg 1.. seems like the so called Sultan Jamalul is not even recognized by Pnoy govt. The rightful one although yet to be crowned should be Datu Muadzul Lai Tan Kiram

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haha you see the name on the right? MARIAM KIRAM
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Mar 7 2013, 11:27 PM)
it's actually THE RIGHTFUL ONE RECOGNIZED BY THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT OF PHILIPPINE.

like during marcos time, he "chose" a person to be recognized by his government. aquino haven't officially recognized one, yet. It's related to this piece of news.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/368891/friend...to-marcos-years
fuad claims he had arroyo macapagals backing

on the basis that arroyo had invited him to a state dinner, and not the other kirams... retard...



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post Mar 7 2013, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 7 2013, 11:35 PM)
confuse already ,... everybody said there are the right sultan ...

if u have internal affair , just keep it in the family la ...

no need to bring to others people 's turf ...
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:43 PM

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pilak fuad claiming hes sultan just because he was invited for reception of bolkiah by arroyo, and he talked to bolkiah

shit... i think a LOT of people at the reception talked to bolkiah - dancers, waitresses - didnt mean theyre sultans

palui ba pilak

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Philippine Government also recognizes Fuad Kiram
The Government of the Philippines (GPH) has also recognized Sultan Fuad Kiram, 1st as the Sultan of Sulu and Sabah.

As a manifestation, when His Majesty Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei made a state visit in Manila and was accorded a grand reception in Malacañang by then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo on January 30, 2009,

Sultan Fuad Kiram was invited— to the exclusion of other claimants. There he had a conversation with his counsin Sultan Bolkiah.


Recovery of Sabah from Malaysia
Sultan Fuad Kiram said the recovery of Sabah from Malaysia is the central policy of the Tausug Sultanate of Sulu for the benefit of his people.

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/...ace-on-standoff

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post Mar 7 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:41 PM)
Funny thing is we pay the yearly cessation money to him based on the link article you posted earlier  hmm.gif
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we pay because of high court of north borneo decision by cfc macaskie

cfc macaskie ask to pay to 9 heirs

but logically - when the 9 heirs are dead - shud we continue pay to the heirs of the 9 heirs? isnt that - a LOT OF HEIRS?

its mischief in law aint it?

the 9 heirs are dead now

i think the gov are only paying as TOKEN, and not cession money. thats why in the letter it says "cession money" with ""

if its token i say stop it already

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post Mar 7 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(chameleon @ Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM)
he also support this kiram III invade sabah ??
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he support sabah claim by negotiation

not by war
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2013, 11:47 PM)
No what I mean is we are paying that Fuad guy only  hmm.gif

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Based on the article here: http://andakjauhar.wordpress.com/analisis-...esultanan-sulu/

Why we dun pay to the rightful one?
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if you read the comments in the article,

the money was not paid to fuad alone. the money was paid to a lawyer -ALKY ULLAMA - and ullama paid to 9 heirs

so the letter is actually to tell fuad "hey sulu, go collect your money from your lawyer"
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:56 PM

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read about the macaskie judgment

Macaskie
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:58 PM

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summore in 2008, it was reported that some of the heirs want to abolish their claim

but hes asking for USD 20Billion... told y'all these pilaks are crazy people

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Thursday July 17, 2008
Sulu ‘royal’ family drops claim


By RUBEN SARIO
newsdesk@thestar.com.my

KOTA KINABALU: In an about-turn, the nine heirs to the Sulu Sultanate are dropping their claim on Sabah.

Individuals claiming to represent the “royal” family said they were now willing to surrender their rights to the state.

The nine “heirs” of the sultanate have been receiving a total annual “cession payment” of RM5,300 from the government since before independence.

Datu Omar Ali Datu Backtiyal told a local newspaper here that he had obtained the signatures of the nine heirs of the late Sultan Mohamat Jamal Al Alam agreeing to relinquish their claim last year.

He was now waiting for the Malaysian Government's response.

He said the nine heirs were among those named in a 1930s civil suit presided by the then Chief Justice of North Borneo CFC Macaskie. (Dayang Hadji Piandao Kiram of Jolo, Philippines and Eight Others vs the Government of North Borneo).

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1951&sec=courts
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post Mar 8 2013, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Mar 7 2013, 11:52 PM)
If the payment is too low, then Kiram family have to work like a common people or ask their follower to give Kiram family 10% of the follower salary...
Kiram follower can also go to Sabah to become tour guide in KK/Sipadan to earn $$$ and send some $$$ to the Kiram family
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the payment IS low... thats why these sultans are poor fags...

these sulus claimed they owned sabah last time, when they are only coastal dwellers. inland natives like dusun didnt lay such claim. when sabah was only a jungle with natives that the sulus didnt want to meet, sulus thought they dont have any use of it, so they so-called "leased" it "in perpetuity" to the brits.

payment was USD5,000.

payment now is RM5,300 after macaskie judgment - to be divided to 9 heirs = these kirams are fighting for scraps
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post Mar 8 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Mar 8 2013, 12:02 AM)
They sure jelly seeing kings in malaysia. Live so lavish n girls damn hot.

No wonder they go wonkers.
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and malaysian kings jealous of brunei
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post Mar 8 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Mar 8 2013, 12:07 AM)
I don't have much knowledge about Brunei, but heard that Sultan Brunei are very kind hearted to Brunei people.
We know there are Sultan in Thailand and heard he also care for Thai peoples
Are there sultan in Indonesia??
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actually indonesia was claiming sipadan-ligitan because they claim those islands were under the sultanate of balingian or sumthing...

but i think sultans in indonesia now are like sultans in pnoy... clans without authority living in a republic
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post Mar 8 2013, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Mar 8 2013, 12:12 AM)
DUA KOMANDO POLIS CEDERA TERIMA RAWATAN SUSULAN DI IPOH

IPOH, 7 Mac - Dua perwira negara yang cedera akibat insiden
tembakan dengan penceroboh bersenjata di Kampung Tanduo, Sabah, Sabtu lalu diterbangkan ke sini, hari ini bagi menjalani rawatan susulan.

Koperal Mohd Tarmizi Hashim, 32, dan Koperal Azman Ampong, 39, yang merupakan anggota Komando VAT 69 tiba dengan pesawat Cessna Caravan 208 dari Pangkalan Udara Sungai Besi, di hangar Pangkalan Latihan Unit Udara Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM), di sini pada 5.30 petang.

Kedua-dua anggota Komando itu diterbangkan dari Lahad Datu, Sabah pada 8 pagi tadi dengan pesawat King Air PDRM ke Sungai Besi.

Sebelum ini, kedua-dua mereka menerima rawatan di Hospital Lahad Datu selepas masing-masing cedera di bahu kanan dan kaki serta bahagian punggung dan paha akibat ditembak penceroboh bersenjata dalam insiden berkenaan.

Sebaik mendarat, mereka dikejarkan dengan ambulans untuk dibawa ke Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun di sini bagi rawatan susulan.
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yesterday the injured officer in simunul tragedy was flown to KLIA and transferred to selayang

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