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 Working in Singapore V13, COE $61,029

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xtylish
post May 3 2013, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(hokin @ May 3 2013, 11:47 AM)
I want to add my 2 cents on salaries and getting a job in Sg.

My observations:

This first set of observations should be universal throughout the world:
a) Each country will have its pay scale / range for different roles and professions, be it starting salaries for graduates or experienced hire, so one cannot compare salaries for same position / role country to country;
b) If you have a skill that is highly sought after, you get a premium compared to someone else who does not have your skill;
c) If you hold a good degree from top schools / universities, you will most likely get called for an interview and offered a job….provided if you are not too cocky or a show off or be able to carry yourself well and articulate your responses well;
d) Inter-personal skills (and good English skills) plays a big part on how one progresses in your career, vis-à-vis salary;

This second set of observations are Singapore centric:
a) Civil service and statutory bodies, LTA, PUB, NEA, etc., offers competitive salaries – priority goes to Singaporeans thou’. Teachers are well paid here, I was told fresh grads during training can get between SGD3-3.5K;
b) Start-ups and SMEs pay scale is usually at the lower end of the spectrum compared to MNCs;
c) Employers preferred grads from Singapore institutions of higher learning and are willing to pay higher compared to someone with regional obtained degrees / diplomas.
d) You are competing with talents from whole of Asia, from India to China and closer to home, from the region, from Myanmar to Philippines…and I can tell you the ones I have encountered from this region, a great number can speak better English and carry themselves better than Malaysians! The only advantage is perhaps we are closest in relation to culture to Singapore and perhaps some can speak Mandarin and BM…apart from these, you are just any foreign talent!
My observations are based on my short 1.5 yrs here and I am here not because I came down to cari kerja but on a company reassignment, so my observations may be skewed. Therefore I do stand to be corrected.
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Very good and I agree.
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post May 3 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ May 3 2013, 11:49 AM)
yea. u are godlike level, i should listen to u like a dog.
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You are a dog. A resentful one. Your parents pushed u here? U relented. Your sister challenged u, u relented. U got offered shitty job, u relented.

And THEN, you comprain.

What eez you if you're not one? and yes, u are welcome to eat my shoe if i throw them at you. brat.

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xtylish
post May 3 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(puppyee @ May 3 2013, 11:52 AM)
You are a dog. A resentful one. Your parents pushed u here? U relented. Your sister challenged u, u relented. U got offered shitty job, u relented. What is you if you're not one? and yes, u are welcome to eat my shoe if i throw them at you. brat.
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come on, throw it at me. faster lah.
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post May 3 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(hokin @ May 3 2013, 11:47 AM)

b) Start-ups and SMEs pay scale is usually at the lower end of the spectrum compared to MNCs;

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bt its kinda imposible for fresh to enter MNCs? its a question.....
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post May 3 2013, 11:56 AM

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i think its possible...but for my to work in sg,its a it challenging to get a job there i guess @@
Lester1987
post May 3 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(xwen90 @ May 3 2013, 11:54 AM)
bt its kinda imposible for fresh to enter MNCs? its a question.....
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its not. even people like me without a degree is working in MNC. its just depends on the position you are working at.
And don't take xtylish comment as the benchmark. If you are willing to do the jobs Singaporeans doesn't wanna do.
You will be rewarded accordingly. she states ur pay will be lower than 2k. But i can tell u if you willing to work in a call center.
You will definitely get more than 2k even you are a fresh grad.
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post May 3 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ May 3 2013, 11:53 AM)
come on, throw it at me. faster lah.
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I guess alot ppl wish to see you in person to see who you really are to be able to talk like that. thumbup.gif
xtylish
post May 3 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ May 3 2013, 11:59 AM)
I guess alot ppl wish to see you in person to see who you really are to be able to talk like that. thumbup.gif
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i am sure they don't dare to speak to me like that in reality anyway. all also keyboard warriors.
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post May 3 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ May 3 2013, 12:00 PM)
i am sure they don't dare to speak to me like that in reality anyway. all also keyboard warriors.
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U should join the gathering. N learn from these elites. How to earn more
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post May 3 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ May 3 2013, 12:00 PM)
i am sure they don't dare to speak to me like that in reality anyway. all also keyboard warriors.
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I guess the keyboard warrior is u. We meet each other in this thread quite often. But you? Even name also scare to tell people. I highly doubt u even dare to come out and meet any of us.
xtylish
post May 3 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ May 3 2013, 12:03 PM)
U should join the gathering.  N learn from these elites. How to earn more
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Will do so when I feel much more welcomed.
xtylish
post May 3 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ May 3 2013, 12:05 PM)
I guess the keyboard warrior is u. We meet each other in this thread quite often. But you? Even name also scare to tell people. I highly doubt u even dare to come out and meet any of us.
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and what will i gain from all this?
Argiope
post May 3 2013, 12:09 PM

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Lester,

Have you finished googling the 25 names/numbers in the group chat?
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post May 3 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ May 3 2013, 11:59 AM)
I guess alot ppl wish to see you in person to see who you really are to be able to talk like that. thumbup.gif
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nothing worth seeing. period.
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post May 3 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ May 3 2013, 12:09 PM)
Lester,

Have you finished googling the 25 names/numbers in the group chat?
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blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif Background check?
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post May 3 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ May 3 2013, 12:06 PM)
Will do so when I feel much more welcomed.
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They r all very nice ppl. It's just that u have tunnel vision by using ur own self as reference.

These ppl here have more experience working here. So they can tell u a better picture
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post May 3 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ May 3 2013, 12:03 PM)
U should join the gathering.  N learn from these elites. How to earn more
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come on bro. u know we don't bring b|tches to all our gathering.
xtylish
post May 3 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ May 3 2013, 12:12 PM)
They r all very nice ppl. It's just that u have tunnel vision by using ur own self as reference.

These ppl here have more experience working here. So they can tell u a better picture
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yea. very nice indeed.

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post May 3 2013, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(xwen90 @ May 3 2013, 11:54 AM)
bt its kinda imposible for fresh to enter MNCs? its a question.....
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my opinion...not really impossible
yes, there will be more applications for MNC hence more competition, but that is also subjected to more job opening due to larger scale operations.
as a fresh grad, just apply anything and everything that you are interested in.
some may say that your first job will determine your career path, but you already have a picture of your future...a bit vague, but at least u have an idea


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post May 3 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ May 3 2013, 12:11 PM)
blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif Background check?
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Someone assumed he very free to google mah lol so I asked if he has kau tim the current list.


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