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acefreakz
post Apr 15 2013, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 15 2013, 12:59 AM)
btw to speed up drying process (and reference to previous TS of this thread), would you give an "ok" to using soft silicone wipers to quickly sheet away water before wafer weave/chamois drying?

the directions also mentioned to NOT apply force and i can easily see why especially if the silicone wiper picked up dirt and can easily damage the finishing.
however if one is careful, making sure after wipes to wash/inspect the blade, and of course gentle/no force applied wipes, should be no problem right?
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biggrin.gif am using that too lol, otherwise it would take too many dry cloths to dry them off xD so far no problem for me, of coz use it w/o force/pressure is the key. Just sharing wink.gif

btw, was nothing better to do last weekend, so i tried permanon > meguair's wax & detailer lol only firt front part of the car tho, just for testing xD it's too bad i don have 'before' and 'after' for comparison, but personally i found it more shiny biggrin.gif Wonder how long this can last xD

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sifu-sifu here please help me~ I have 2 problems here(refer to pic #1 and #2 below)

1. How to reduce this damn persistent dirt? As u see from the pic, the whiter area is after i applied from wax, amazingly wax can remove it -.-, so any other way to do it? I wash car twice a week, and after abt 1 month, this happens lol -.- everytime. Damn annoying la =( FYI, i parked my car w/o covered place, 24/7
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2. My paint seems f***ed up lol, any idea how to cure? =( It's strange that only this part of the car become like this.
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post Apr 15 2013, 08:33 AM

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Too free last Saturday, so did a waxing job on this 7 years old car tongue.gif



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post Apr 15 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Apr 15 2013, 08:33 AM)
Too free last Saturday, so did a waxing job on this 7 years old car tongue.gif
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+1. Ur paint doesnt seems like 7 yr old LOL. good job xD
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post Apr 15 2013, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Apr 15 2013, 08:15 AM)
biggrin.gif am using that too lol, otherwise it would take too many dry cloths to dry them off xD so far no problem for me, of coz use it w/o force/pressure is the key. Just sharing wink.gif

btw, was nothing better to do last weekend, so i tried permanon > meguair's wax & detailer lol only firt front part of the car tho, just for testing xD it's too bad i don have 'before' and 'after' for comparison, but personally i found it more shiny biggrin.gif Wonder how long this can last xD

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excuse me for a long post xD

sifu-sifu here please help me~ I have 2 problems here(refer to pic #1 and #2 below)

1. How to reduce this damn persistent dirt? As u see from the pic, the whiter area is after i applied from wax, amazingly wax can remove it -.-, so any other way to do it? I wash car twice a week, and after abt 1 month, this happens lol -.- everytime. Damn annoying la =( FYI, i parked my car w/o covered place, 24/7
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2. My paint seems f***ed up lol, any idea how to cure? =( It's strange that only this part of the car become like this.
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Looks like most white car will have this problem. No choice but to wash and wax regularly to minimize chances of dirt to bond with the paint. Dirt are more apparent on white paint unfortunately. My bro's white car also suffer from this.
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post Apr 15 2013, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 15 2013, 12:59 AM)
btw to speed up drying process (and reference to previous TS of this thread), would you give an "ok" to using soft silicone wipers to quickly sheet away water before wafer weave/chamois drying?

the directions also mentioned to NOT apply force and i can easily see why especially if the silicone wiper picked up dirt and can easily damage the finishing.
however if one is careful, making sure after wipes to wash/inspect the blade, and of course gentle/no force applied wipes, should be no problem right?
With the correct awareness and technique, I guess it's safe to use it. Just be careful yeah.

One another note, if/when you car has a very healthy coat of protection on, water *should* be able to sheet faily well with an open hose and what's left can be easily dried with one single piece of drying cloth.

QUOTE(acefreakz @ Apr 15 2013, 08:15 AM)
sifu-sifu here please help me~ I have 2 problems here(refer to pic #1 and #2 below)

1. How to reduce this damn persistent dirt? As u see from the pic, the whiter area is after i applied from wax, amazingly wax can remove it -.-, so any other way to do it? I wash car twice a week, and after abt 1 month, this happens lol -.- everytime. Damn annoying la =( FYI, i parked my car w/o covered place, 24/7

If normal wax can remove it, chances are a strong cleaner also can....something like a weak APC. But be prepare to wax again though. Or you can try a stronger mix of shampoo. There's really no method (not that I know of) that can prevent it except for regular washing and maintaining a healthy coat of protection. If you're anal about it, try to consider those modern 'coatings'. I've got plenty of those drip marks and stains too but washes off fairly easily with normal shampoo (I have one car on 'glass' coating and the other on 'ceramic' coating).

2. My paint seems f***ed up lol, any idea how to cure? =( It's strange that only this part of the car become like this.

Hrrmm....could that be caused by adhesive? Or maybe somebody clean the area with some strong solvent before putting on those? Looks like it's along the same place. Looks too far gone to 'cure'.
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post Apr 15 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Apr 15 2013, 08:45 AM)
Looks like most white car will have this problem. No choice but to wash and wax regularly to minimize chances of dirt to bond with the paint. Dirt are more apparent on white paint unfortunately. My bro's white car also suffer from this.
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=( that sucks xD bo bian lo then haha i love white xD
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post Apr 15 2013, 09:29 AM

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sifu-sifu here please help me~ I have 2 problems here(refer to pic #1 and #2 below)

1. How to reduce this damn persistent dirt? As u see from the pic, the whiter area is after i applied from wax, amazingly wax can remove it -.-, so any other way to do it? I wash car twice a week, and after abt 1 month, this happens lol -.- everytime. Damn annoying la =( FYI, i parked my car w/o covered place, 24/7

If normal wax can remove it, chances are a strong cleaner also can....something like a weak APC. But be prepare to wax again though. Or you can try a stronger mix of shampoo. There's really no method (not that I know of) that can prevent it except for regular washing and maintaining a healthy coat of protection. If you're anal about it, try to consider those modern 'coatings'. I've got plenty of those drip marks and stains too but washes off fairly easily with normal shampoo (I have one car on 'glass' coating and the other on 'ceramic' coating).

2. My paint seems f***ed up lol, any idea how to cure? =( It's strange that only this part of the car become like this.

Hrrmm....could that be caused by adhesive? Or maybe somebody clean the area with some strong solvent before putting on those? Looks like it's along the same place. Looks too far gone to 'cure'.


oh, glass and ceramic thanks i will research about it biggrin.gif thanks!

=( sei lo, no idea man, guess gonna get it respray...
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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Apr 15 2013, 08:15 AM)
biggrin.gif am using that too lol, otherwise it would take too many dry cloths to dry them off xD so far no problem for me, of coz use it w/o force/pressure is the key. Just sharing wink.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Apr 15 2013, 09:20 AM)
With the correct awareness and technique, I guess it's safe to use it. Just be careful yeah.

One another note, if/when you car has a very healthy coat of protection on, water *should* be able to sheet faily well with an open hose and what's left can be easily dried with one single piece of drying cloth.
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yeap.. agreed. i have not issue drying up the car with just 1 pass using Meg's Water Magnet. Another tip is when doing the final rinse, just let the water flow over the surface instead of spraying it with pressure. this will allow most of the water to be sheeted away (provided you do have a protection layer tongue.gif).


btw bro krismas, i was reading the back info of the UQD yesterday during my wash.. noticed that it contains Iso propyl alcohol. that's the IPA right? that is capable of removing LSPs right? hmm.. am wondering how come Meg's are advertising it as being able to prolong wax protection.. blink.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 15 2013, 10:17 AM)
btw bro krismas, i was reading the back info of the UQD yesterday during my wash.. noticed that it contains Iso propyl alcohol. that's the IPA right? that is capable of removing LSPs right? hmm.. am wondering how come Meg's are advertising it as being able to prolong wax protection..  blink.gif
Oh...I thought you knew already. I was saying all along that UQD has quite a strong cleaning properties. I especially like it (on certain occasions) because of this (but my current fav is Dodo Juice Red mist. How much more solvent? - can use as flame thrower...nuff said...hahaha). Our dirty environment sometimes requires something stronger than the normal quick detailer so that it's able to remove the stubborn dirt/oil film, especially after a long drive in the city. Yes it might clean off a little of whatever LSP you have on, but I don't think it's strong enough to remove it (unless the LSP is already weak). hrrm....comes to think of it, you can try the UQD to remove those dirt stain, it might work. But your cloth will get very dirty though.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Apr 15 2013, 11:00 AM)
Oh...I thought you knew already. I was saying all along that UQD has quite a strong cleaning properties. I especially like it (on certain occasions) because of this (but my current fav is Dodo Juice Red mist. How much more solvent? - can use as flame thrower...nuff said...hahaha). Our dirty environment sometimes requires something stronger than the normal quick detailer so that it's able to remove the stubborn dirt/oil film, especially after a long drive in the city. Yes it might clean off a little of whatever LSP you have on, but I don't think it's strong enough to remove it (unless the LSP is already weak). hrrm....comes to think of it, you can try the UQD to remove those dirt stain, it might work. But your cloth will get very dirty though.... laugh.gif
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lol.. i always thought it was too expensive to use it as a 'on the spot cleaner'. i've only used it after a full wash to, quoted from the bottle, "Enhances wax protection that is safe on all surface"... biggrin.gif this is very confusing indeed.... hmm.gif hmm.. maybe i'll just stick to UQW for my weekly maintenance routine and use the remaining UQD as an on the spot cleaner tongue.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 01:25 PM

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Just my personal opinion la.

By all means just use the UQD if you see dirt built-up that can't be easily wash off with normal shampoo. The LSP had already been compromised and had allowed dirt to 'stick' to it. Using something like the UQD would remove that compromised layer together with the contaminant, eposing a fresh layer, whilst at the same time the UQD also leaves a little bit of it's own 'protective layer' behind. Top it up with UQW if you're looking for further assurance.

Just my 2 sen.
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post Apr 15 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Apr 15 2013, 01:25 PM)
Just my personal opinion la.

By all means just use the UQD if you see dirt built-up that can't be easily wash off with normal shampoo. The LSP had already been compromised and had allowed dirt to 'stick' to it. Using something like the UQD would remove that compromised layer together with the contaminant, eposing a fresh layer, whilst at the same time the UQD also leaves a little bit of it's own 'protective layer' behind. Top it up with UQW if you're looking for further assurance.

Just my 2 sen.
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oops.. bro.. i meant the confusing part is on Meg's advertising.. they shouldn't be advertising it as an enhancer to wax protection when it has LSP removing properties.. tongue.gif maybe we can sue them in the US of A biggrin.gif

yeah.. probably will use UQD first and top it up again with UQW during my weekly washed instead of just alternating between the 2 of them. Based on my experience the UQD's 'protective' layer doesnt really last that long when compared to UQW.

come to think of it, we're really nearing the polishing hands on meet up smile.gif so have we decided on a venue yet? definitely not under a pokok right? biggrin.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 02:34 PM

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Plan to buy a car wax for my car and my relative recommend me soft99 metallic, is this brand good? And metallic car wax suitable for solic paint? Because my car is metallic paint while my aunty car is solic white, we plan to share use...
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 15 2013, 10:16 AM)
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ya wor lol don come dirty my babe plz =P

mm btw UQW first then UQD? wow, i didnt know UQD actually degrade the underlying UQW. Does it proven last longer?

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hrrmm....I think this had been blown a little bit out of proportion already. I don't think the UQD is so aggressive that it'll TOTALLY remove existing wax/sealant. Maybe remove a little bit of it but TOTALLY remove...I don't think so la.

About the meet....I tot you were the one who's suppose to be looking for the venue....tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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hrrmm....I think this had been blown a little bit out of proportion already. I don't think the UQD is so aggressive that it'll TOTALLY remove existing wax/sealant. Maybe remove a little bit of it but TOTALLY remove...I don't think so la.

hahaha chill bro, we will know after few tries biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Apr 15 2013, 02:34 PM)
Plan to buy a car wax for my car and my relative recommend me soft99 metallic, is this brand good? And metallic car wax suitable for solic paint? Because my car is metallic paint while my aunty car is solic white, we plan to share use...
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no idea bro, i am using meguair's wax thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Apr 15 2013, 03:35 PM)
no idea bro, i am using meguair's wax  thumbup.gif
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I can't find that brand at my hometown, even turtle brand also don't have...
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM)
hrrmm....I think this had been blown a little bit out of proportion already. I don't think the UQD is so aggressive that it'll TOTALLY remove existing wax/sealant. Maybe remove a little bit of it but TOTALLY remove...I don't think so la.

About the meet....I tot you were the one who's suppose to be looking for the venue....tongue.gif
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ehehe my bad.. was exaggerating a little earlier.. all in all i still love UQD. best beading ever.. or so my newbie eyes seem to tell me.. tongue.gif

regarding the venue.. my place is definitely out.. no porch or power socket nearby. pokok at the common car wash area got la.. biggrin.gif can we have an alternative? i've never organized such meets before.. any special guest that day? ok.. let's first get a headcount, then we decided on the venue. Those interested, please continue populating your name below:

Machine hands on session with bro Krismas
Date: 01/05/2013 (Wednesday)
Time: TBD
Venue: TBD
Machines available: Borch ROB, DA polisher, Rupes Bigfoot?? brows.gif rclxms.gif

Those interested, please put down your name tongue.gif

1) mav3rick.. aka Ivan smile.gif

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