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post Feb 26 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 26 2013, 03:27 PM)
i just check proton website (malaysia)

full specs premium preve which priced at 72k

already come with ESC + side airbag
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/Experience/M...s-(1).aspx#info
so that means it's no different with oversea? or still got different?
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The Aussie have curtain airbags. So total 6 airbags. And this is standard for all variant (6 airbags + ESC).

The local spec have 4 airbags + ESC. And this is only for premium spec.
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post Feb 26 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 26 2013, 03:30 PM)
The Aussie have curtain airbags.  So total 6 airbags.  And this is standard for all variant (6 airbags + ESC).

The local spec have 4 airbags + ESC. And this is only for premium spec.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif ok ..just wondering sweat.gif
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post Feb 26 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 26 2013, 03:30 PM)
The Aussie have curtain airbags.  So total 6 airbags.  And this is standard for all variant (6 airbags + ESC).

The local spec have 4 airbags + ESC. And this is only for premium spec.
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I think the FL model will have 6 airbags also.. Heres hoping
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post Feb 26 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 26 2013, 03:30 PM)
The Aussie have curtain airbags.  So total 6 airbags.  And this is standard for all variant (6 airbags + ESC).

The local spec have 4 airbags + ESC. And this is only for premium spec.
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peviously they announced 6 airbags be4 official launching and with a chrome bar behind.....well probably too many cybertroopers especially those at paultan complain expensive and chrome bar ugly....so they remove the airbag and the price changed....becomes cheaper.....
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post Feb 26 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 26 2013, 03:27 PM)
i just check proton website (malaysia)

full specs premium preve which priced at 72k

already come with ESC + side airbag
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/Experience/M...s-(1).aspx#info
so that means it's no different with oversea? or still got different?
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ppl will buy 72K IF all the safety is there and price is ok.... anyway our car in not worth 72K... may be 40 to 60K .. gov also put big margin of tax on non local car.

This post has been edited by TamiyaOne: Feb 26 2013, 03:40 PM
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post Feb 26 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Feb 26 2013, 03:34 PM)
I think the FL model will have 6 airbags also.. Heres hoping
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probably....at the aussie launching proton mention that they will provide the same spec to malaysia market soon...can check back for the aussie motorshow article....
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post Feb 26 2013, 03:43 PM

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why is airbag is expensive

use plastic bag and portable pump and a switch, sure less then RM10 per unit.

put the switch in front, if kereta langgar at the switch, the pump auto decompress the plastic bag.
even i can do this with less then Rm10. 6 airbag = RM60.

plus ESC key. this is even cheaper. one keyboard give 50++ keys. just color into ESC.

enter key can potong into 5 ESC keys also.

This post has been edited by GaretJenna: Feb 26 2013, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Feb 26 2013, 03:39 PM)
peviously they announced 6 airbags be4 official launching and with a chrome bar behind.....well probably too many cybertroopers especially those at paultan complain expensive and chrome bar ugly....so they remove the airbag and the price changed....becomes cheaper.....
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The leaked price for that is 78k. With leather seat and reverse camera somemore.

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post Feb 26 2013, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 26 2013, 03:44 PM)
The leaked price for that is 78k.  With leather seat and reverse camera somemore.
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yalo i remember that...then so much of complains....haih.....hopefully they will add it back on fl...damn those basher...
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Feb 26 2013, 01:46 PM)
Open spoiler for wat?? NO argument here. Vios is teh bestest
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Vios vs. Saga
Vios win? Actually, both lose! No winner here.

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NILAI: Tiga individu termasuk pasangan suami isteri, terbunuh dalam kemalangan membabitkan dua kereta di Jalan Mantin-Beranang dekat sini, hari ini.

Dalam kejadian kira-kira jam 12.30 tengah hari itu, Toyota Vios yang dinaiki pasangan suami isteri itu bertembung dengan Proton Saga yang datang dari arah bertentangan.
Mangsa yang maut ialah penumpang belakang Toyota Vios iaitu Lim Fong Len, 74, dan isterinya, Chong Yoon Ying, 57, yang berasal dari Mantin, serta pemandu Proton Saga, Tee Chan Hen, 23, yang berasal dari Seri Kembangan, Selangor.

Ketua Polis Daerah Nilai, Superitendan Mohd Yusoff Awang, berkata Chong meninggal dunia ketika menerima rawatan di Klinik Kesihatan Mantin manakala Lim maut semasa dalam perjalanan ke Hospital Tuanku Ja'afar (HTJ), Seremban.

Katanya, pasangan suami isteri itu dan pemandu Proton Saga meninggal dunia akibat kecederaan parah di kepala dan badan.

Beliau berkata, tiga lagi mangsa dalam Toyota Vios itu, iaitu pemandu berusia 37 tahun dan isterinya, berusia 40-an serta anak saudara perempuan mereka berusia tiga tahun dilaporkan parah dan dirawat di HTJ. [Read more]
QUOTE(tonitoni @ Jan 30 2012, 09:25 AM)
i might be slow but to see this head to head collision between these might change malaysian perpective towards non local car esp. vios..

if u read the report regarding the accidents, there are 5 people in vios and 1 in saga..eventhough this two car weight is almost same sub 1000kg, five people in vios vs 1 in saga means whole vios weight about +-200kg more than saga thus more momentum carry by this vios compare to saga thus the collision force is greater on saga compare to vios since the impulse force is vice verse the momentum carried.

the more severe damage shud be expected on saga but if u see carefully the vios is not good either..Hmm we are not talking bout saga BLM here but the saga kereta kebal..isit GOA body of vios is overated..pic attached for better view..please discuss nod.gif

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post Feb 26 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Bubble Ring @ Feb 26 2013, 03:53 PM)
Vios vs. Saga
Vios win? Actually, both lose! No winner here.

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you are no independent car comparer. you are BN trooper.

That picture is clearly photoshopped to make Vios appear bad, as Vios is a mass used counter to the proton by the non bumiputera.

In reality, a single Vios will ramp into a pile of 30 Proton saga at 200kmh , and the not a single scratch will appear on the car. yet every single person in the 30 proton saga will die horrible deaths. This is reality of the proton saga.

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post Feb 26 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Bubble Ring @ Feb 26 2013, 03:53 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Vios is teh best! Why u compare with tin buruk sagaaa?

Japanis japanis is the bestest pipul on earth.

must.buy.vios
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QUOTE(GaretJenna @ Feb 26 2013, 03:43 PM)
why is airbag is expensive

use plastic bag and portable pump and a switch, sure less then RM10 per unit.

put the switch in front, if kereta langgar at the switch, the pump auto decompress the plastic bag.
even i can do this with less then Rm10. 6 airbag = RM60.

plus ESC key. this is even cheaper. one keyboard give 50++ keys. just color into ESC.

enter key can potong into 5 ESC keys also.
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u build ur own car must be cheaper rclxms.gif
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post Feb 26 2013, 06:31 PM

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i got belip wrong? PREVE NCAP 5 STAR?
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post Feb 26 2013, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Bubble Ring @ Feb 26 2013, 03:53 PM)
Vios vs. Saga
Vios win? Actually, both lose! No winner here.

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bro compare with same generation technology la ....
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post Feb 26 2013, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Feb 26 2013, 12:25 PM)
U need the side curtains to get 5 star.. our local version wont get 5 star AUS NCAP.

The standard of our Asean NCAP is at a much much lower standard than EURO or AUS NCAP.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Feb 26 2013, 01:58 PM)
did u read what i posted.. even last year u need curtain airbags for 5 stars dude..

What car is 5 star with dual airbags in AUS NCAP and which year. For 2012 and above u definitely need curtain airbags for 5 stars. Its a compulsory spec.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Feb 26 2013, 02:06 PM)
Its not the issue about credits, i was into the technical details of it. I just did mention about what was compulsory and required to achieve 5 stars in AUS NCAP that is all. And curtain airbags is a must if you were to achieve 5 stars. Kudos to the australians to get a better specs Preve than us then..
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Feb 26 2013, 02:21 PM)
5 star rating by ANCAP does not mean 5 star quality.
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So many fail basher that never do their research yet still bashing. Check here what 5 star rating is meant to be. It all about both driver and passenger occupants safety measure. Even 2 airbags car can get 5 stars if the occupants is show slightly chances of serious injury during the collision base on the injury meter on the crash test.

Curtain airbag is a must to get 5 star rating?? You fail again. Check here for safety features. ANCAP never mention curtain airbags is a must.
When it comes to safety, not all cars are equal.
Choose a vehicle with features that protect drivers and passengers and increase driver control. If it's not a 4 or 5 star rated vehicle - cross it off your list!


Please do go through all the details on the ANCAP website befor comment about the crash test rating. I am not siding anyone, i comment base on evidence and result. I am neutral. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Feb 26 2013, 02:51 PM)
kereta tahi

ohwait it got 5star from australian test center

maybe they are part of BN conspiracy as well
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From ANCAP website.
ANCAP is supported by all Australian and New Zealand motoring clubs, the Australian Government, the New Zealand Government, Australian state and territory governments, the Victorian Transport Accident Commission, NRMA Insurance and the FIA Foundation.

QUOTE(jaymansion @ Feb 26 2013, 03:00 PM)
malaysian....anything also wanna relate to politics.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Feb 26 2013, 03:02 PM)
international politics also can 1 ...if they can get NCAP 5 star ..then they will say NCAP is owned by proton 1
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Ppl who talk harsh here is no way a neutral or clear mind person. They got influence by branding, marketing gimmics etc. Whatever result you show sure got excuses.
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QUOTE(AC_ryan94 @ Feb 26 2013, 06:31 PM)
i got belip wrong? PREVE NCAP 5 STAR?
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post Feb 26 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Feb 26 2013, 09:15 PM)
So many fail basher that never do their research yet still bashing. Check here what 5 star rating is meant to be. It all about both driver and passenger occupants safety measure. Even 2 airbags car can get 5 stars if the occupants is show slightly chances of serious injury during the collision base on the injury meter on the crash test.

Curtain airbag is a must to get 5 star rating?? You fail again. Check here for safety features. ANCAP never mention curtain airbags is a must.
When it comes to safety, not all cars are equal.
Choose a vehicle with features that protect drivers and passengers and increase driver control. If it's not a 4 or 5 star rated vehicle - cross it off your list!


Please do go through all the details on the ANCAP website befor comment about the crash test rating. I am not siding anyone, i comment base on evidence and result. I am neutral. notworthy.gif
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did u even bother to check my previous post? org ancap sendiri jawab side curtain airbag is compulsory. Their website reveal so little on their rating scheme alas the reaaon i emailed them. please go through all my posting before calling someone fail.

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Feb 26 2013, 09:15 PM)
So many fail basher that never do their research yet still bashing. Check here what 5 star rating is meant to be. It all about both driver and passenger occupants safety measure. Even 2 airbags car can get 5 stars if the occupants is show slightly chances of serious injury during the collision base on the injury meter on the crash test.

Curtain airbag is a must to get 5 star rating?? You fail again. Check here for safety features. ANCAP never mention curtain airbags is a must.
When it comes to safety, not all cars are equal.
Choose a vehicle with features that protect drivers and passengers and increase driver control. If it's not a 4 or 5 star rated vehicle - cross it off your list!


Please do go through all the details on the ANCAP website befor comment about the crash test rating. I am not siding anyone, i comment base on evidence and result. I am neutral. notworthy.gif
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that called active and passive safety = overall safety.

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