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 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S IV?), The New King of Android?

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post Mar 30 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Mar 30 2013, 01:07 PM)
U are wrong tongue.gif

the main reason to go with non-removeable battery is to milk more money from customer.
if the battery died, user have no chance to change by themselves.
they have to send back to the manufacturer and they will charge exorbitant price for a battery change. biggrin.gif
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I will just say this. You do not have to go back to the manufacturer to change the battery.
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post Mar 30 2013, 05:50 PM

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thats what happens if you change your phone on a yearly basis. sell old phone and add some more to buy a new one, if the loss is within ur financial capability. tongue.gif

I'll wait for the official release 1st in Malaysia. Not sure if I should get this on day one, since Im more interested in the upcoming Note 3, but its months away from now. If Samsung My could bring the 32GB with a RRP of RM2199 or below, then that would greatly influence my decision later on. If not, I'll just wait a lil bit more droolin over those who have it already. blush.gif

and that black pattern on the S4 is just so beautiful. wub.gif
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post Mar 30 2013, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Mar 30 2013, 05:47 PM)
I will just say this. You do not have to go back to the manufacturer to change the battery.
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but with phones like HTC One, it's almost impossible to fix it yourself or sending it to a 3rd party shop that fixes phones.. Am even wondering how are HTC going to repair the One when people start sending it back to them because of malfunctions/other damages to the phone..

http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-the...-iFixit_id41319

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post Mar 30 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 30 2013, 07:21 PM)
but with phones like HTC One, it's almost impossible to fix it yourself or sending it to a 3rd party shop that fixes phones.. Am even wondering how are HTC going to repair the One when people start sending it back to them because of malfunctions/other damages to the phone..

http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-the...-iFixit_id41319
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i believe they will resort to one to one exchange
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post Mar 30 2013, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(eszol @ Mar 30 2013, 07:51 PM)
i believe they will resort to one to one exchange
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Doesn't give them any green cred does it?
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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 30 2013, 08:06 PM)
Doesn't give them any green cred does it?
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At least they got that green HTC logo

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QUOTE(eszol @ Mar 30 2013, 07:51 PM)
i believe they will resort to one to one exchange
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now also they got supply shortage, imagine them doing 1 to 1 exchange. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(eszol @ Mar 30 2013, 07:51 PM)
i believe they will resort to one to one exchange
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1 to 1 for a phone that is freaking shortage? Maybe so, gonna wait the exchange process about 3 months or so.

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 30 2013, 08:46 PM)
now also they got supply shortage, imagine them doing 1 to 1 exchange.  whistling.gif
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tell me bout it. laugh.gif so much for a comeback from them. Practicality beats design every time.

It can still be considered as safe when it's in the warranty period. Outside that period, once broken, forever gone la. Sure costs an arm and a leg to fix that.

Remember what happened to the early batches of HTC One X? And how fast their depreciation in value even it was only 2-3 months after releases due to major manufacturing defects and all? Fingers crossed that it wont happen to the One, plus the repairability issue? it's sad to know once a great company has turned into what they are now.

I loved HTC back then, and I still have my XE with me, but now, not so much. But still wish the could make a comeback, as I will always hold to the fact that competition is really good for us consumers. Might be a HTC user again in the near future, but in this generation, a big no.

And one thing that still baffles me is that, most of the HTC fans that I know bashed iPhone and BB designs so hard, and then when One came out, all praise it like it's something entirely new despite the obvious copycat. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Mar 30 2013, 08:58 PM)
And one thing that still baffles me is that, most of the HTC fans that I know bashed iPhone and BB designs so hard, and then when One came out, all praise it like it's something entirely new despite the obvious copycat.  laugh.gif
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Well it happens to every brand's fanboys.

Samsung's fans once bashed that the iphones' design are not innovative, well now look at S4 vs S3. Not to forget the original Galaxy S series design is an obvious copycat of iphone.
Nokia is so proud of it's polycarbonate design, keep on reusing it, until today still no major changes.
LG no need mention, look at the optimus pro G.
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surely one can assume that when they want to repair their One, if one-to-one exchange is implemented, maybe they'll get a refurbished set after waiting so long to repair it. when repairability hardness is number one ranking, most likely it won't be repaired
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QUOTE(skyline100 @ Mar 30 2013, 09:16 PM)
Well it happens to every brand's fanboys.

Samsung's fans once bashed that the iphones' design are not innovative, well now look at S4 vs S3. Not to forget the original Galaxy S series design is an obvious copycat of iphone.
Nokia is so proud of it's polycarbonate design, keep on reusing it, until today still no major changes.
LG no need mention, look at the optimus pro G.
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Isn't fitting a 5" screen on a 4.8" body innovation? and at the same time making it slightly slimmer and lighter too albeit with more sensors and a bigger battery capacity? Isnt that innovation by itself? because samsung knows if they didnt do anything about it, a lot of noisy people will complain 5" is too big for their liking. Now what can you say about the 5" ? Absolutely nothing. The design may be almost the same, but certainly there's innovation there.

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 30 2013, 09:27 PM)
Isn't fitting a 5" screen on a 4.8" body innovation? and at the same time making it slightly slimmer and lighter too albeit with more sensors and a bigger battery capacity? Isnt that innovation by itself? because samsung knows if they didnt do anything about it, a lot of noisy people will complain 5" is too big for their liking. Now what can you say about the 5" ? Absolutely nothing. The design may be almost the same, but certainly there's innovation there.
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iPhone 5 is larger, thinner, lighter than its predecessor, more radio chips also bigger battery capacity. In fact, this is the trend of many flagships phones.

No doubt there is some innovation in there, but is it enough to call it innovative? Pretty subjective.
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Mar 30 2013, 05:50 PM)
thats what happens if you change your phone on a yearly basis. sell old phone and add some more to buy a new one, if the loss is within ur financial capability.  tongue.gif

I'll wait for the official release 1st in Malaysia. Not sure if I should get this on day one, since Im more interested in the upcoming Note 3, but its months away from now. If Samsung My could bring the 32GB with a RRP of RM2199 or below, then that would greatly influence my decision later on. If not, I'll just wait a lil bit more droolin over those who have it already.  blush.gif

and that black pattern on the S4 is just so beautiful.  wub.gif
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Impossible rm2199 got 32gb

QUOTE(trippin2 @ Mar 30 2013, 09:31 PM)
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Prefer control astro hahaha
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post Mar 30 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(skyline100 @ Mar 30 2013, 09:41 PM)
iPhone 5 is larger, thinner, lighter than its predecessor, more radio chips also bigger battery capacity. In fact, this is the trend of many flagships phones.

No doubt there is some innovation in there, but is it enough to call it innovative? Pretty subjective.
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it is larger because it has a bigger screen unlike the S4, which has a bigger screen too, but it didn't increase in size not to mention a bigger battery too. S4 has a bigger screen size, lighter than its predecessor, more sensors and LTE chips too and also a bigger battery capacity. Not sure what you're trying to argue about here.

Trend of many flagship smartphones? You mean only Apple? I'm sorry but it looks like 5" seems to be the trend this year. So I don't know where you get your facts from. Maybe you created them yourself?
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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Mar 30 2013, 10:10 PM)
it is larger because it has a bigger screen unlike the S4, which has a bigger screen too, but it didn't increase in size not to mention a bigger battery too. S4 has a bigger screen size, lighter than its predecessor, more sensors and LTE chips too and also a bigger battery capacity. Not sure what you're trying to argue about here.

Trend of many flagship smartphones? You mean only Apple? I'm sorry but it looks like 5" seems to be the trend this year. So I don't know where you get your facts from. Maybe you created them yourself?
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Funny because when I said trend, I mean "larger, thinner, lighter than its predecessor, more radio chips also bigger battery capacity", isn't this the trend of the flagships over the years? 5" is just a tiny part of the facts.

Not trying to argue, but I pointed out that every flagships are improving, not just S4, but are they enough to be called "innovative"? Bigger screen with similar size = innovative? That is the point. I think I had made myself quite clear. My bad maybe I should have made it more obvious for people.

You don't have to be that offensive, for sure you can support anything you like.
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post Mar 30 2013, 10:49 PM

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for the s4 the innovative part is the software and new features, innovation means taking something and making it better, think you confuse inventions and innovation, even though your POA is correct, the screen size increase is not innovative, but the big little architecture by ARM is innovative and if proven popular, the new IR may be innovative too just like NFC, now they have all these smart features, they are innovative too, taking a normal front camera and programming codes to do beyond what they are designed to do
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QUOTE(destEX @ Mar 30 2013, 10:49 PM)
for the s4 the innovative part is the software and new features, innovation means taking something and making it better, think you confuse inventions and innovation, even though your POA is correct, the screen size increase is not innovative, but the big little architecture by ARM is innovative and if proven popular, the new IR may be innovative too just like NFC, now they have all these smart features, they are innovative too, taking a normal front camera and programming codes to do beyond what they are designed to do
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I was referring to innovation in term of design, not the internal things since my first post.
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QUOTE(skyline100 @ Mar 30 2013, 09:41 PM)
iPhone 5 is larger, thinner, lighter than its predecessor, more radio chips also bigger battery capacity. In fact, this is the trend of many flagships phones.

No doubt there is some innovation in there, but is it enough to call it innovative? Pretty subjective.
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I think you leaving at iPhone world too long.

Surprising you could said iPhone 5 is the trend of many flagships phone.... doh.gif the way iPhone 5 increasing that extra one bar space does not actually make the screen phone more usable or bigger feel.

iPhone lost any innovation quite sometimes already. It keep repeating minor updates not only outer but OS as well.

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