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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread V2, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM

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I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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post Feb 24 2013, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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no case and screen protector for me. too bulky with case, then for wt i buy a sexy, slim phone.....
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post Feb 24 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Feb 24 2013, 11:21 PM)
no case and screen protector for me. too bulky with case, then for wt i buy a sexy, slim phone.....
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Yup..same here.
Use the phone naked when it's new and shinny. Show off its beauty while we can. Once the phone have scratches here and there..then only we put on some casing to hide those scratches.
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post Feb 24 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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Will be using the phone naked.

Highly likely will not be able to slide into the dock if you have a case on it.
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post Feb 24 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 24 2013, 11:29 PM)
Will be using the phone naked.

Highly likely will not be able to slide into the dock if you have a case on it.
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Agreed... Besides, the main selling point in terms of design is the full glass back/front/side. Putting on casing for z will certainly ruin the beauty of this phone.
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post Feb 25 2013, 12:23 AM

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Just back from sg went to funan and tested out the z
First impression when holding the phone ... iphone5 feeling with 5" display lol so slim and sleek.
Super responsive. However didn't manage to test the camera in low light area. Price is 988sgd
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post Feb 25 2013, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Feb 25 2013, 12:23 AM)
Just back from sg went to funan and tested out the z
First impression when holding the phone ... iphone5 feeling with 5" display lol so slim and sleek.
Super responsive. However didn't manage to test the camera in low light area. Price is 988sgd
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Wow, $988 x 2.5012 = RM2,471... laptop pricing liao.
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post Feb 25 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Feb 25 2013, 12:27 AM)
Wow, $988 x 2.5012 = RM2,471... laptop pricing liao.
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post Feb 25 2013, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Feb 25 2013, 12:27 AM)
Wow, $988 x 2.5012 = RM2,471... laptop pricing liao.
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i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200 sweat.gif doh.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 25 2013, 12:35 AM)
i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Need to eat Maggie mee for that whole month.. laugh.gif
But atleast can stare at the new shinny phone during lunchtime while eating Maggie...bwahaha
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post Feb 25 2013, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 25 2013, 12:52 AM)
Need to eat Maggie mee for that whole month.. laugh.gif
But atleast can stare at the new shinny phone during lunchtime while eating Maggie...bwahaha
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i really hope we get a dock, so no need to spend extra for the dock. coz i thinking og getting this bluetooth headset,

either this one user posted image or this user posted image , but dono which is better. hmm.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 24 2013, 09:01 PM)
Questions... It says... 1m submersion for 30mins.... So after 25mins i remove it from water.... will the time left for future submersion will only be 5mins or will it reset back?

Follow up... if it resets back... how long do i have to wait to submerge it again?

sudden realisation sweat.gif sweat.gif
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someone else's replies from xda..

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(IP)(5)(7)

IP = Ingress Protection

5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact

7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).

Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device


The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is


8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.

Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer

and to get the IP67

6 = Dust tight

Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact


The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.

But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.



So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.

So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries

So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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Check out this one. The 3 on top. Stylish Leather Case, Frosted Shield, Multi Colour Shield. Looks pretty nice.
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 24 2013, 11:28 PM)
Yup..same here.
Use the phone naked when it's new and shinny. Show off its beauty while we can. Once the phone have scratches here and there..then only we put on some casing to hide those scratches.
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the phone scratch resistant icon_idea.gif

will keep beauty forever unless u drop it from 14 floor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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I already bought my casing a niilkin leather flip case even before phone is here
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 25 2013, 12:35 AM)
i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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yeah... that's y i say s'porean have better spending power than m'sian. it's only our s**t govt always converting the currency to compare and always say m'sia is still very cheap in many things...
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 25 2013, 09:06 AM)
the phone scratch resistant icon_idea.gif

will keep beauty forever unless u drop it from 14 floor tongue.gif
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Yes it is..BUT it not scratch proof unless somehow it's using diamond plated screen in which i highly doubt...lolz doh.gif

There's no such thing as beauty forever. Soone or later micro scratch will appear especially on glass the back cover tongue.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:45 AM

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for the first time ever,

a phone that I'm not going to use cases but transparent protector if available

gonna use the phone naked tongue.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:49 AM

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i used sony ericsson aino naked, but i put it in a pouch. thinking of using pouch for z too.
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post Feb 25 2013, 10:53 AM

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Its not so easy to get scratches on glass, especially tempered glass.
Glass is harder than metal..
unless it's dropped on a really hard floor(like rock) with sharp edges.

Im using my xperia p naked, and the aluminium back got scratched by the floor.

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