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Unkerpanjang
post Jan 26 2023, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:06 PM)
Not the rich cronies but the rating agencies instead that stopped it for now as they need to clear local fiscal path 1st before implementing it 🤦‍♀️
Wait for GST comes in 2025 before we talked about FSI 🤦‍♀️
Crash is already happened last year and we are trading sideaways this year with minor dip
Tech is cutting due to demand rebalancing hence not suprising as it is coming soon to load up on it as the price valuation is tapering soon to fair value

Won’t be 2nd year bleeding as long as the war doesn’t prolong or any escalation happens this year but more short battles and standstill again 🤦‍♀️

We are already in recession just that Biden doesn’t wanna accept the fact that he is the major cause of it by stoking and daring Putin to act 🤦‍♀️

This year we will be trading sideaways with minor dip is worse case scenario for me while buying technical quality holdings is the key
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Morning, morning so high activity..you missing.

Only see Bro active past midnight...you holiday in Europe or West Coast arh?


Unkerpanjang
post Jan 26 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:25 PM)
Trading US markets which is why morning is missing 😂
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Bro, thanks for your sharing, appreciate diversity in opinion.
So avoid herd mentality.
Much respects 👏

This post has been edited by Unkerpanjang: Jan 26 2023, 04:31 PM
Unkerpanjang
post Jan 26 2023, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ntchong @ Jan 26 2023, 04:19 PM)
ok noted. Gonna open for the kids and let the interest compound. Thanks.
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Allow Unker to chime in. Agree with opinion shared by Ramjade.

Also, why open for kids, unless you super flushed with $$$ n exceeded the annual $120K self contribution (u n wife). You can even add self contribution via F17.

Just nominate them la.

Never too late, until you really see n assess kids' filial piety, nobleness n financial discipline.
Unkerpanjang
post Jan 28 2023, 10:34 AM

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Malaysia Retirement Reforms Required.

I wud propose they include the EPF forum seniors into select committee.

Compliance
Bro Prophetjul, Magika, Wedchar, MUM

Overseas Exposure
Ramjade, Xander, Cubalagi, MGM.

Open for other deserving nominees. National Service and/or Fair Market Compensation.


Unkerpanjang
post Jan 29 2023, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 29 2023, 02:37 PM)

There is a sure fire way to get more funds into EPF... but many won't like what I am suggesting.

implement tiering, but pay more div % to those with more balances in EPF. I can guarantee you, money will flood in.

say those with balance between 500 to 1 million, get extra 1%
those 1 million to 5 million, get extra 2%

btw, this is one reason why banks offer higher rates for larger FD sizes. and not for small FD size.

edit:
I forgot to add that this is a lot more logical than the tiering to reward smaller balances.
Simply because the ones with low balances already shouting like mad they want to withdraw their funds... Anyone think these group can throw in extra say 100K rm inside???
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Such a thought provoking subject on a Sunday afternoon. High respects to forum Seniors. Unker smallhat thinking :

1. If kwsp allows a 1 time unlimited deposit. Unker will exit ASNB, SSPN, Bursa, FD & dump into KWSP.
KWSP becomes my Private Banking.

2. Unker cannot fathom the unintended consequences to market liquidity and monetary policy.
KWSP will cannibalize Bank FD, Bursa n ASNB VP n ASM2,3.

3. Further widen wealth gap.

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Unkerpanjang
post Jan 29 2023, 05:13 PM

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Bro Wedchar,

You provided a very compelling proposal to alleviate impasse, as the status quo negatively impacting dividend performance.

KWSP is claiming insufficient funds (due to withdrawals) and yet limiting the annual self top ups. (They cannot have it both ways.)

Lets hope DSAI got an influx of bright guys/gals in the MOF.

Unkerpanjang
post Jan 29 2023, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Jan 29 2023, 05:29 PM)
I think when listening to what Nurhisham said verbatim, what I am hearing is that the withdrawals resulted in a missed opportunity but it did not affect EPF's performance, which was more affected by market developments.
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Bro, Good insight.

Unker part of camp that believes the withdrawals affect available capital $ as well as portfolio allocation $.

As a layman, if I anticipate needing cash soon, I must invest portion in shorter term FD vs putting 100% FD (with higher $ n tenure to negotiate better dividend %.)

In all honesty, Im speculating above KWSP investment process.
Hahaha!
Unkerpanjang
post Jan 31 2023, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 31 2023, 10:04 AM)
Look. There were some obvious great years of earnings. Yet the dividend given is not reflective.
Vice versa, some bad years and yet.
We have discussed this before.
Surely there is some retained earnings in the accounts to smoothen the awards through the years.

EPF is not apolitical. Obviously.
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Unker just need to know if KLCC run ON or NOT?
Need to book hotel le for the event.
Unkerpanjang
post Jan 31 2023, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 31 2023, 12:51 PM)
i hope they do not make 10% !    icon_question.gif  sweat.gif  Unkerpanjang
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Nekad! Nekad! Nekad! Nekad!

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post Jan 31 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 31 2023, 01:42 PM)
Okie.
i settle for 9.88%.
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Since schooling days, Unker not the brightest....but always attention seeker.

Unker say 4.89%, can?
Unkerpanjang
post Jan 31 2023, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 31 2023, 04:26 PM)
28 billion to cover expenses????  shocking.gif

div declared are all just accounting.... the powder, dry or wet, is still with EPF. only when the funds are withdrawn by members does it count.
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Hello Bro Wedchar n Xander.

Excuse me for asking, both of you got register for klcc running wor?

Bro Prophetjul now panic already, 0.02% to target....more people participate, share body warmth.

Bottom line, we happy together lah...great learning for me, thanks to our well-read forumers. Whether 5%, 6%, 8,,,%, well supported thoughts n explanation.
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post Feb 1 2023, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 1 2023, 11:03 AM)
Who are you calling old and ghey?  Unkerpanjang
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Hahaha Bro Prophetjul,

We brush it off lah.

Words don't affect me, unless it's a opinion from someone I respect n value.

We r in an open forum, infested with faceless individuals. In life, don't build walls, build bridges.

Unkerpanjang
post Feb 1 2023, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 1 2023, 12:58 PM)
Where is your proverbial  doh.gif ?

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Whoi, Unker very too lian wrong spelling one....

Nekid, Nekad, ...which one betul? All good guys!!!
Unkerpanjang
post Feb 1 2023, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Feb 1 2023, 07:22 PM)
but but if give 10%, I sure withdraw 5% out and spend a small portion to stay at the most expensive hotel room facing klcc...
to witness the race... :-P
the 5% go throw into crypto for one round of big small....
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Most rooms booked liao....

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Unkerpanjang
post Feb 2 2023, 02:57 PM

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Unker finished work matters...byk mass lepak.

To the highly respected Seniors n Sifus,

If we can have ASB Loan to supplement income of Bumis, cant we also do something similar like KWSP Loan to support B40?
Unkerpanjang
post Feb 3 2023, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 3 2023, 12:09 PM)
Came back here  to get the latest news on the important %. Not much chit chats this time. Strange.

One thing came to mind the other day. Hope the accounting/economic/money gurus here can help.

Say EPF only invests in one foreign share A. Q1, Q2 and Q3 results are all very good. But Q4 turns out very bad, negative.

A. Is annual return the sum of Q1, Q2, Q3 & Q4?

B. Or annual return =  the difference between end of year and start of year balances? I think it should be this.

C. Problem with A is, Q1, Q2 & Q3 results may be very good due to the favourable exchange rate. But that gains are not realised at the end of the year when the exchange takes a big hit?

Cheerio.
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Wah,
Bro Plumberly, been many moons..you not appear.
Moved to Aussie, NZ?
Happy belated New Year.

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post Feb 4 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Feb 4 2023, 12:45 PM)
1 million gives 55k, one month 4,500
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Bro Prophetful,....millionaire, hahaha? Tipu!!
Go page 3 lowyat forum.
I look all over for his name in the $1 millionaire EPF before retirement. He dont even appear there. Im very sure he tipu , if he claims to be in that category.
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I have strong conclusion he already broke the $2 million mark, couple of years back....somemore company gratuity, guarantee terror lah!
I always kowtow him n other Seniors in same category. Can learn from them.
Similarly, to the young doctor, might not reach multi millionaire yet....but the job of doctor, teacher, nurse, hawker, fireman, police...they are just as noble n honest work.

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post Feb 4 2023, 03:14 PM

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Using Jan-Sep 2021 vs 2022 as a guide, a drop of 18%, assuming the same for the remaining 3 months, and the % is linear to the revenue, then we may get

6.15*0.82 = 5.05% for 2022.

Then no more beer but tap water in my cave.

Bad, bad, bad !!!!!
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Bro Plumberly, don't tipu....I'm sure there's more crates of Coopers n Great Northern in the cave you shipped back.
Unkerpanjang
post Feb 5 2023, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 5 2023, 09:16 AM)

My 2.88 cents.
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I confident in Bro analysis, easily up My 2.95 cents.
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post Feb 5 2023, 10:33 AM

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Very interesting dynamics in Lowyat forum.

I just discovered individuals or groups that distrust kwsp, prefer to hold their cash in FDs.

I guess, that's the beauty of human diversity. Someone is always right within a point in space time,

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