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wil-i-am
post May 24 2015, 09:08 PM

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post May 25 2015, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 21 2015, 05:30 PM)
Government Set To Allow EPF Withdrawal To Invest In ASB2 - Najib

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v8/newsindex.php?id=1136600
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Rephrase ur statement pls tongue.gif
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post May 25 2015, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ May 23 2015, 01:20 PM)
Consistency is my cup of tea too
Anyway, I hope they can declare 6.84% (match 1999) in 2015 from 6.75% in 2014
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Do u know what follow shortly after record breaking earnings/dividend? tongue.gif

2000-2001 is the tech bubble burst in the US FYI tongue.gif

Means the next recession cycles coming soon?
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post May 25 2015, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 25 2015, 12:45 AM)
Means the next recession cycles coming soon?
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post May 25 2015, 08:12 AM

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EPF's gross income was RM39 billion in 2014.

To get some indication on how big is 1MXX's RM42 billion debt, then 0% dividend for a year if that was used to bail it out. Not saying EPF will bail it out, just using the income as a comparison.

I really hope and pray that after this 1MXX debt is settled, those responsible will be charged and xyz etc.

Bad investment is one thing is bad enough. Siphoning some of the billions away is another thing.

Sorry, off topic.
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post May 25 2015, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 25 2015, 12:45 AM)
Do u know what follow shortly after record breaking earnings/dividend? tongue.gif

2000-2001 is the tech bubble burst in the US FYI tongue.gif

Means the next recession cycles coming soon?
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On the way already.
Like the recent Seremban's Mapex, all the developers are giving rm30000-40000 of discount. And best of all, only 10-20% sold laugh.gif
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post May 25 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 25 2015, 12:49 PM)
On the way already.
Like the recent Seremban's Mapex, all the developers are giving rm30000-40000 of discount. And best of all, only 10-20% sold laugh.gif
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Seremban not the next "hot" place to be? MVV? hmm.gif
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post May 25 2015, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 25 2015, 03:49 PM)
Seremban not the next "hot" place to be? MVV? hmm.gif
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What's MVV ? blush.gif
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post May 25 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 25 2015, 03:54 PM)
What's MVV ? blush.gif
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the next Klang Valley drool.gif

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post May 25 2015, 04:07 PM

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More EPF members opt for flexible age 55 withdrawal in 1Q
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The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) saw the amount withdrawn under its Flexible Age 55 Withdrawal facility jump 42.55% to RM2.68 billion in the first quarter of this year (1Q15) from RM1.88 billion a year ago.

In a statement today, the country’s largest pension fund said this stemmed from the 77,865 applications approved in 1Q15, a 37.37% increase from 56,681 applications in 1Q14.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/m...5-withdrawal-1q
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post May 25 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 25 2015, 04:07 PM)
More EPF members opt for flexible age 55 withdrawal in 1Q

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/m...5-withdrawal-1q
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I don't understand the statistics.

It's says :-
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The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) saw the amount withdrawn under its Flexible Age 55 Withdrawal facility jump 42.55% to RM2.68 billion in the first quarter of this year (1Q15) from RM1.88 billion a year ago.
If the amount withdrawn has jumped in %, wouldn't it mean more people are inclined to withdraw (more) money out than keeping it with EPF ? Why the conclusion is this :-

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“The increasing number of applications for flexible withdrawals reflects more members at age 55 opting to stretch their savings longer with the EPF,” said its chief executive offer Datuk Shahril Ridza Ridzuan.
Can someone enlighten me ? blush.gif
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post May 25 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 25 2015, 03:49 PM)
Seremban not the next "hot" place to be? MVV? hmm.gif
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Hot? 2 years back maybe, but not now. Mapex are held almost once every 2 months.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 25 2015, 03:57 PM)
Malaysia Vision Valley, 11th M'sia Plan  icon_rolleyes.gif
the next Klang Valley  drool.gif
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By looking at how market react can know already, this will be another white elephant project whistling.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 25 2015, 05:53 PM)
Hot? 2 years back maybe, but not now. Mapex are held almost once every 2 months.
By looking at how market react can know already, this will be another white elephant project whistling.gif
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EPF i-Akaun usage increases 100%
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The EPF said the number of members logging into the service surged 102.65% to 2.91mil from 1.43mil in the corresponding period last year.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-pct/?style=biz
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post May 25 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 25 2015, 06:24 PM)
EPF i-Akaun usage increases 100%

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-pct/?style=biz
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post May 26 2015, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 25 2015, 04:23 PM)
I don't understand the statistics.

It's says :-
If the amount withdrawn has jumped in %, wouldn't it mean more people are inclined to withdraw (more) money out than keeping it with EPF ? Why the conclusion is this :-
Can someone enlighten me ?  blush.gif
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What is the flexi withdrawal?

Maybe he means they dont withdraw ALL their monies.
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post May 26 2015, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 25 2015, 04:23 PM)
I don't understand the statistics.

It's says :-
If the amount withdrawn has jumped in %, wouldn't it mean more people are inclined to withdraw (more) money out than keeping it with EPF ? Why the conclusion is this :-
Can someone enlighten me ?  blush.gif
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hmm.gif the amount means monies....
maybe less people withdrawn, but those "few" withdrawn more monies compared to previous.
(therefore " the amount withdrawn has jumped in %")
More people are withholding withdrawal.
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post May 26 2015, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 26 2015, 01:07 PM)
hmm.gif the amount means monies....
maybe less people withdrawn, but those "few" withdrawn more monies compared to previous.
(therefore " the amount withdrawn has jumped in %")
More people are withholding withdrawal.
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I think I found their "logic" already. They have the flexi withdrawal, and the non-flexi withdrawal ( lump sum withdrawal) . If the flexi withdrawal amount has increased, then they concluded that the lump sum withdrawal has reduced.

Realistically speaking this is not absolutely equivalent. They must sum the amount withdrawn at age 55 ( flexi withdrawal + lump sum withdrawal ) together, and make a before and after comparison ( 1Q14 vs 1Q15), to be able to arrive at such conclusion.

They have a logic failure.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 26 2015, 01:58 PM)
I think I found their "logic" already. They have the flexi withdrawal, and the non-flexi withdrawal ( lump sum withdrawal) . If the flexi withdrawal amount has increased, then they concluded that the lump sum withdrawal has reduced.

Realistically speaking this is not absolutely equivalent. They must sum the amount withdrawn at age 55 ( flexi withdrawal + lump sum withdrawal ) together, and make a before and after comparison ( 1Q14 vs 1Q15), to be able to arrive at such conclusion.

They have a logic failure.
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hmm.gif but maybe "they" wanted to project it that way.
they are still "telling" the truth....(in a way)
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post May 26 2015, 07:11 PM

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Now, Finance Ministry says EPF’s investment in 1MDB ‘slightly risky’
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/n...-risky%E2%80%99
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