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post Dec 8 2022, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 8 2022, 12:24 AM)
Almost closed the gap with FD in 2002...
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What was the rate back then?
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post Dec 8 2022, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 8 2022, 07:38 AM)
Not supplementary. A new one will be tabled early next year. The 100k is void.
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New budget: RM 1 mil top up EPF. 🤣
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post Dec 9 2022, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 8 2022, 02:40 PM)
:thumbsup:  thumbup.gif
happy to know that you are in the group that met "can withdraw that amount and at anytime" criteria
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Ayam still too young...hehehe.
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post Dec 9 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 9 2022, 11:16 AM)
Lagi BEST.  So young can get into that 1.05 mil group. rclxms.gif
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Not yet lah... probably next year.

Anyway, RM1mil is nothing to shout about...USD 200++K only. Less mentioned, the better. 20 years ago RM1 mil maybe ok lah.


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post Dec 21 2022, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 21 2022, 09:38 AM)
Yes. My house loan reached 12% interest rate in 1995. i took out my EPF to clear the loan.  laugh.gif
That in memory was the only time i experienced the bank rates more than 10%.
Who knows? We may see it soon again.
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No lah, won't happen again. I remember back then people car loan buy Proton also around 10%...lol
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 21 2022, 12:08 PM)
Never say never..it can happen again if we get hit by a financial crisis.
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...10% to the Moon!! brows.gif
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post Dec 21 2022, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 21 2022, 04:39 PM)
1996 was the highest BLR was 13.6% back then and FD was crazily high at 20% with promo but back then FD promo was minimum 50k

So that’s why you lucky because I know the couple who got hit 18% is 1st home buyer hence why high interest
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Lock in FD rates for 100 years!!! Fuiyo!!!
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post Dec 22 2022, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 22 2022, 06:39 AM)
Not possible as when OPR revises as FD moves along as well 🤦‍♀️

You want 20% you can put in India, Turkey or few Eastern Europeans countries that can give you that rate 😂
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post Dec 22 2022, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:51 AM)
Bro are you kidding there ??

surprised nobody in here question your FD 20% rates.
Nobody in here with FD in 1990s??
The highest i remember was 13+% from finance

Go tell FD was at 20% rates in FD thread see what you get...

dont go quote from those nonfinance non bank ahlong type cooperation and said is FD rate la.
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I am suprised also. Can't remember got 20%...max also 10%+.
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post Dec 22 2022, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Dec 22 2022, 03:03 PM)
the max given by then mbf was 14% when lotsa people queuing for withdrawals. the bank manager tried to calm down the crowds by putting stacks of notes on the counter top.
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This i think I remember...MBF and stacks of money in the newspaper...lol

QUOTE(Kopistall @ Dec 22 2022, 11:08 AM)
Can epf give 10% next year ?
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Can. PM our PM

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post Dec 23 2022, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 23 2022, 06:53 PM)
you deserved to get all the shellings, a hidden agenda to push for tier dividends?..

If EPF doesnt want more money from the so called "rich: then disallow them the voluntary additional contribution RM60k a year,

why  let people put in more and blame them?
or worse punish by paying less dividend to them..
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Yep. EPF must be fair to all. Those leechers are the one with hidden agendas. And as been discussed before, if want tiered dividend, then make everyone can withdraw, none compulsory. We save hard and work hard our whole lives only to be leeched by people who wants to withdraw 10k to buy ifong and mod motor? Pak you mang! My EPF will hit 1m next month and I drive an old City and use RM2k phones only!
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post Dec 23 2022, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Dec 23 2022, 07:47 PM)
The main problem is that many believe that they can take the money to invest themselves and outperform EPF. I have a few friends who are late 20s decided to withdraw and spend it, or put into FD because they said EPF will collapse from their parents. Many are not aware that EPF controls huge proportion of the bursa market. If epf collapse, our currency will be worthless.
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The funny thing, when I was young and started working, got people who said the same thing to me...EPF collapse lah, blah blah. Now I am almost retirement age, still got these group of people singing same story.
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post Dec 24 2022, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 24 2022, 09:20 AM)
Bang, this is superb!

Congrats!!! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

are you gonna stop contributing or keep doing it?

do you have a target when you gonna stop? like telling yourself its good enough.
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I am targeting 1.2 - 1.4m by the time I can withdraw all. Unless FD suddenly became 10%, then I would stop self contributing there. Lol.
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post Dec 24 2022, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 24 2022, 10:05 AM)
you intend to withdraw all? where will you put next?

my intention is once hit 1 mil, i can use those additional dividend if i need for my expenses. then unused ones can continue grow from there

5% of 1 mil is 50k/ yr.= 4k/ month, which helps a lot in one's daily life.

thats why its important for people to hit 1 mil asap, but people seem to prefer playing the 'epf will go bankrupt soon' tune.
fd 10%? haha, when inflation is 20% and we will all rekt.
tldr, always invest in your future sell, and your future self will thank you.

its like planting tree, from a seed to a 10m tall tree. magnificent to watch how it grows
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Nope. Same like you, I will just let it run to generate income until I say bye bye. Coupled with other passive incomes, I think I should have more than enough for my simple lifestyle to cover monthly expenses. Hell, I don't even own a watch! Old man eat simple and healthy, don't need much money. When I say bye bye, leave all my assets to my kid.

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Dec 24 2022, 10:03 AM)
Ironically those like you who can afford better toys in life such as a bigger car than old city or ifong 14 pro are the very ones avoiding them
and those not able to are the very ones owning them to the extreme  extent of driving new merc while only owning the 4 tyres and steering
while the rest still belongs to the bank. Thats the difference between the financially prudent and the financially non prudent. Save hard, work
hard and invest carefully is the right way to achieve financial independence some day. Outwardly your life may appear boring. Old city, handfon
nobody takes a second look, house paint looks dull, no facebook fotos of holiday in the swiss alps etc. Yes it is boring. But then you can meet
all your financial obligations, pay bills and most of all sleep well. Your final reward will be the money built up over the years that will now look
after you in your sunset years where you can expect to live with dignity without having to beg borrow or steal. No ahlongs coming to splash
red paint on the gate.
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I have FB account...which I don't post anything except private groups for my hobbies which is basically about learning and not showing off. Lol
Yeah, I have some friends.who bought big cars and house when got good times...bad times, need to come to me pinjam money. Relatives also like that, Niamah, totally so sense of financial.planning. Now I teach my kid about the importance of financial planning and responsible spending. I think he picks up the habit too. I asked him if he wants a new handphone...I kena lecture balik, why need so many phones when his current phone is just fine. 🤣
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post Dec 24 2022, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Dec 24 2022, 11:19 AM)
What better analogy of one's financial path than to akin it to a seed becoming a tree.

Finally the tree produce flowers , make oxygen , output fruits , provide shade , and

you can sing to yourself what a wonderful world ....

For some the EPF savings will finally not be their money anyway simply because it will
be passed onto someone else. I personally know of a few who has never made any
withdrawal even when qualified to withdraw in full. The seed that was planted and became
a tree is now for others. They themselves already own a forest !

So keep planting trees and many trees become a forest.

Merry Christmas folks.
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Keep planting those Christmas Trees and Santa Claus will come visit! Merry Christmas!
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post Dec 24 2022, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 23 2022, 05:29 PM)
What do you mean the poor gets peanuts? That is misleading. Did the rich do anything to stop the poor from increasing their monthly contributions? It is all about savings, everyone starts from zero savings. And using the amount in EPF to label whether one is poor or rich is false narrative too.
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Just to add. Unker stay in rumah atap.setinggan when kid that time. You born poor not your fault, you die poor, confirmed is your sarahan.
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post Dec 25 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Dec 25 2022, 08:01 AM)
Hopefully no more withdrawals.

By allowing once , twice , thrice etc it will soon become a standard practice.

Depleting the account jeopardizes sufficiency at retirement age.

But then again if one is in dire straights without money life can be really really terrible.

However no money when young can be sorted out much easier compared to no money when old.

So hopefully no more withdrawals.
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Ignore the troll account lah. One liner rubbish.

Now everyone got jobs, no more excuses for withdrawal. Tengku Zafrul did the right thing. Hope Anwar not going to be pressured for this shit or I ain't voting PH no more.
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post Dec 25 2022, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 25 2022, 11:19 AM)
There is no minimum age to start contribution. One can make own son as director of company, coupled with the self-contribution since few years back, can la. But this is anomaly.

And this is typical of the edge, what is their agenda in publishing this stat that time, even using the term millionaire. Why not show the stat of members with low EPF savings and their age, employment duration and also the related withdrawals.
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So we cannot blame Rosmah....menabung dari kecik! Really no minimum age? Then I need to look to open account for my kid.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2022, 12:32 PM)
Bro don't do that. If you do that means you have faith in the RM long term. Yes past performance may not be indicator of futurr performance. Rather than open account for kid, better to use the money for your kid and buy sg banks or sg Rreits. There are some good sreits giving 5-6%p.a currently and yes paid in SGD.

Let's say you put for 20 years, sg banks and sreits will beat any returns EPF can give you. Trust me.
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Good idea too. Wonder what is minimum age to open broker account? I want my son to learn to manage this also.

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