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post Nov 28 2024, 11:06 AM

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convert now will get conventional div or syariah div? or prorated... hmmm...

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post Nov 29 2024, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Nov 29 2024, 07:47 PM)
why cant deposit into bank Acc..  then use online to transfer from bank acc to epf?

saves the hassle of filing up forms...
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if cash... your method is 2 step work...


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post Dec 12 2024, 09:56 AM

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wow... imagine planning on gg at 80... start drawdown epf to 0 for it... n live on another 40 yrs broke...

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post Dec 13 2024, 10:36 AM

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retirement at 65 is ok... a lot of t20 friends after 60 go back to work as contract staff for fun and to pass time...

so epf withdrawals shifting 5 yrs is ok too... most likely will kena those <45 imho...

dun forget now got acc3 can anytime withdraw whatever there...

if epf start giving back >6% div... all the old folks will be very happy keeping money inside...

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post Dec 13 2024, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2024, 10:49 AM)
Wow, that is a long time.
The basic minimum sum requirement had changed many times already...
Basic salary had increased many time too.
Time for them to update that (much depreciated) 1 mil target
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focus is on those "not enough to retire"... so not likely to change imho... 1m is still quite a lot today...

when min sum to retire >1m... maybe then biggrin.gif

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post Dec 13 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2024, 11:07 AM)
I thought they are changing that 1 mil to 1.1, 1.2, 1.3? Every increase 100k each year for 3 yr to 1.3 mil
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ah my bad for not keeping up with the news... doh.gif

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post Dec 23 2024, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 23 2024, 11:29 AM)
Only worries is it's dividend sustainability...

Would it maintain higher or would dropped lower than Conv after few years time...

Decision Decision Decision.... Hard to make 🤔🧐😔
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when epf follow pmx more local... maybe 70% all is conv... 30% all in magnificent 7 syariah... hahahaha...

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post Dec 23 2024, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(sg8989 @ Dec 23 2024, 02:06 PM)
SO much depend on our KLCI performance.
Now around 1600 estimated max should be 6%.
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klci good last year also but div meh...

anyways epf got other ventures n investments... all need to line up...

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post Dec 23 2024, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(sg8989 @ Dec 23 2024, 09:30 PM)
2023 KLCI lowest 1369 highest 1501...
Bro...now klci almost 1600.
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ok... i remember 2023 klci recovered and was moving up in 3Q/4Q... dunno how high... 2024 now is opposite moving down... but looks much much better than 2023...

so i agree with you... epf should be doing much better than last year

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post Dec 23 2024, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 23 2024, 10:50 PM)
The payout ratio play major role @ factor...

Need to be over 90%+++
then only might see better numbers...
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yeah... last year S more than C...

hope C much better this year...

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post Mar 4 2025, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Mar 3 2025, 10:38 PM)
understand and agree with your points. possible...

but it also begs the question of whether this effectively means EPF is "robbing from Peter to pay Paul"...
the current EPF members, Peters, are underpaid whenever the payout ratio was too low... like 90%. that is kept...
So when will EPF then pay out these reserve to pay Pauls, future EPF members?

Peter and Paul are EPF members but of different years btw. hence they are strictly not the same members
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if u r the affected... it sucks

from epf perspective... its just statistics

just like you quit before company give big bonus... wink.gif not company problem biggrin.gif


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post Mar 4 2025, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 4 2025, 11:09 AM)
Will this retirement age impact on our EPF contribution? Like example if 55, meaning employers will contribute until 55 years old? Or there is no impact at all, just a guideline to stop working
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no issue before 60...

working after 60... different contribution rules...

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post Mar 4 2025, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 3 2025, 02:03 PM)
In Klang Valley, I applied RM4250 for 2 pax per mth, with 50-50 makan outside and home cooked meals.
Groceries + toileteries approx 1K per mth. Petrol RM400 + parking + occasional tolls p/mth (assuming driving P1/P2). Meds 250 per mth, house utilities + internet RM350 p/mth.
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best have budgets for different bucket...

60-70 == still healthy, more traveling, good food
70-80 == more medical
80-90 == assisted living

good assisted living currently 10k per pax per mth... this way wont burden the kids...

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post Mar 27 2025, 04:27 PM

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remember the days when there is single account... and no such thing as >1m withdrawal?...

epf keeps everything until you retire or gg... lol


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post May 24 2025, 03:14 PM

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the important maths... 75/213 = 35%

if pmx say more local... means more funds to these folks... i support smile.gif

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post May 29 2025, 08:01 PM

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when young... minimum epf... max outside

when old... maximum epf... min outside

zero risk... 2.5% div guaranteed... 6.5% casa is hard to beat wink.gif

happy to keep my $ in epf... biggrin.gif

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post May 30 2025, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 29 2025, 08:38 PM)
true...when young...very sked to put money in EPF...cuz it's gonna be locked in there for very long...
but as you get older and nearer to retirement...suddenly it looks like a very good option to put there as well too...  tongue.gif
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both young n old ppl still sked of lock in... case in point, >1m withdrawal... got ppl here upset bc going to be progressively higher...

long ago no such thing... only retire can withdraw... epf gives an inch, ppl want a mile... lol...

once you are financially stable... easier to plan your spending

also... gov dun need to take your epf money... they can just print more... wink.gif

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post Jul 1 2025, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 1 2025, 09:01 PM)
Have This 1.8 million at age 55 upon retiring
Have 25 yrs more to reach 80 yrs old.
Does this retiree need to leave that 1.8 mil as legacy or he can spend 1.5 million when he reached 80?

I am currently having alot lesser than 1 mil in epf  yet I calculated my money in epf and outside can last me for another 20 yrs..

I guess it depends on some factors like, how much one need to spend upon retirement and how much one wanted to leave behind at age 80.

My parents last time also has much lesser than me, yet they still can retired for many years before their demise.
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his 1.8m in 2050... is the same money of the day of 476k today in 2025...

if you are retired now with 0.5m... you're in the adequate category... dont sweat it wink.gif you are living example...

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post Jul 1 2025, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 1 2025, 09:41 PM)
To get to adequate category in 2050, need to hv starting pay of 8k now, .... i think something is not right.
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he put forth an assumption to get to 1.8m... doesn't have to be realistic... smile.gif

majority will never see starting pay of 4k in 2025... let alone 8k...

but never say never... biggrin.gif

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post Jul 2 2025, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 1 2025, 10:21 PM)
Kwsp has mentioned that, ....
"Future Adjustments to Reflect Cost of Living
To remain relevant to rising costs, the RIA savings levels will be reviewed every three years, starting in 2029, using updated data from the Belanjawanku findings.".

EPF Releases Belanjawanku 2024/2025 And Retirement Income Adequacy Framework
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/w/epf-releases-b...quacy-framework
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thanks for the link... now we know where his table comes from... smile.gif


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