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Kcee
post Feb 8 2018, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(orangutan @ Feb 8 2018, 12:19 PM)
[attachmentid=9577224]

As per attachment, keeping it simple, if dividend is 6%, therefore, 6% / 12 mths = 0.005 or 0.5% per mth

Did I get the calculation correct?

I also can't seem to find EPF email to ask them this. Anyone have it?
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It's pro rated and calculated on daily basis. If it's simple calculation as yours, every body would rush to deposit lump sum in December to enjoy the dividend in two months time. Try calculate 100% * 6% for January deposit, then 11/12*100%*6% for February,10/12*100%*6% for March and onwards. You have to consider the money need to be deposited for one whole year to get full dividend.
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QUOTE(orangutan @ Feb 8 2018, 12:19 PM)
[attachmentid=9577224]

As per attachment, keeping it simple, if dividend is 6%, therefore, 6% / 12 mths = 0.005 or 0.5% per mth

Did I get the calculation correct?

I also can't seem to find EPF email to ask them this. Anyone have it?
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My 2 cents as below ...

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** interest is not compounded monthly. Compounded only yearly.
** I assume you deposit on the first day of the month. Interest is on daily basis.

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post Feb 8 2018, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Feb 7 2018, 10:05 PM)
I used to contribute to EPF, but stopped when i began my freelancing. I guess I can remit my money into the account, and can quite simply be done via online bank transfer?
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QUOTE(drbone @ Feb 8 2018, 09:21 AM)
Yup, maximum amounts of RM5000, multiple times.
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 8 2018, 10:37 AM)
You can deposit up to RM60k per year at anytime.
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But even for voluntary contributions, withdrawal would still be upon retirement. is this correct?
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post Feb 8 2018, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Feb 7 2018, 05:05 PM)
I used to contribute to EPF, but stopped when i began my freelancing. I guess I can remit my money into the account, and can quite simply be done via online bank transfer?
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I do it all the time with CIMB clicks. Minimum contribution is RM50.
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post Feb 9 2018, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Feb 8 2018, 09:38 PM)
But even for voluntary contributions, withdrawal would still be upon retirement. is this correct?
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same rules apply

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post Feb 9 2018, 09:09 AM

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Cant wait... come on 7.5%!!
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post Feb 9 2018, 10:32 AM

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post Feb 9 2018, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Kcee @ Feb 8 2018, 12:39 PM)
It's pro rated and calculated on daily basis. If it's simple calculation  as yours, every body would rush to deposit lump sum in December to enjoy the dividend in two months time. Try calculate 100% * 6% for January deposit, then 11/12*100%*6% for February,10/12*100%*6% for March and onwards. You have to consider the money need to be deposited for one whole year to get full dividend.
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Trying out your formula, I ended up getting 1,809.86

My formula below,

[Number of days in account] / 365 * 6% * [Current balance]


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post Feb 9 2018, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 8 2018, 01:31 PM)
My 2 cents as below ...

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** interest is not compounded monthly. Compounded only yearly.
** I assume you deposit on the first day of the month. Interest is on daily basis.
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Can share your formula, thanks!
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post Feb 9 2018, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(orangutan @ Feb 9 2018, 10:34 AM)
Can share your formula, thanks!
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Jan 31/365*6%*1000
Feb 28/365*6%*2000

etc

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post Feb 9 2018, 10:48 AM

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Hi guys, sorry for this noob question.

1. Let's say I am withdrawing everything from Account 2 for properties in 2017. So the dividend only applies to Account 1?
2. If I am withdrawing Account 2 for house monthly loan, it's by monthly withdrawal or one shot? If one shot, how about future amount in Account 2?

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Feb 9 2018, 10:48 AM)
Hi guys, sorry for this noob question.

1. Let's say I am withdrawing everything from Account 2 for properties in 2017. So the dividend only applies to Account 1?
2. If I am withdrawing Account 2 for house monthly loan, it's by monthly withdrawal or one shot? If one shot, how about future amount in Account 2?
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1. Dividend is paid based on the balance on both.
2. Either way. If you still got future contribution, it'll partially go into Account 2. You can empty it again if you have sufficient amount to withdraw.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 9 2018, 10:50 AM)
1. Dividend is paid based on the balance on both.
2. Either way. If you still got future contribution, it'll partially go into Account 2. You can empty it again if you have sufficient amount to withdraw.
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Okay, got it!
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post Feb 9 2018, 10:54 AM

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Hopefully its 7.5% 🙏

7% also acceptable 😊
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post Feb 9 2018, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 9 2018, 10:54 AM)
Hopefully its 7.5% 🙏

7% also acceptable 😊
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ASB also announced 7% only for year 2017. Normally EPF does not outperform ASB based on historical data.
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Feb 9 2018, 11:19 AM)
ASB also announced 7% only for year 2017. Normally EPF does not outperform ASB based on historical data.
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Maybe this round is unique 😊
More than ASB
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post Feb 9 2018, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 9 2018, 11:27 AM)
Maybe this round is unique 😊
More than ASB
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Highly unlikely due to the political nature and election season. ASB also they had to twist and turn and say return is 8.25% when actually its 7% for 2017. Also check out Tabung Haji where they are also not so direct with the returns:


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=102...13699194&type=3


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post Feb 9 2018, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 9 2018, 10:54 AM)
Hopefully its 7.5% 🙏

7% also acceptable 😊
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EPF CEO stated 6.5 - 7.5% for 2017.

I know that is a range and he is not saying it will be 7.5%

But it is giving members the 7.5% impression. Furthermore, now it will be announced by Ah Jib, to some people like me, it will be a very high number, thus 7.5%! Ha.

I thought they have been in this political public image game long enough to handle this properly. Maybe they have very short memory on things like this?

Just hope for 7.5%. Now even 7.4% will be disappointing for me. vmad.gif ranting.gif puke.gif bangwall.gif cry.gif
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post Feb 9 2018, 01:15 PM

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Whatever...
Let's wait for jibby announcement..
Now too many speculation...
Some say won't be above ASB.. Some say endless possibilities...

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