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 Proton Prevé V17, steady as she goes

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Gigabit
post Mar 23 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Mar 23 2013, 10:03 AM)
No magnet trap is a very wrong decision, for new car it recommended to use it as it not exp. It will help to reduce friction in your engine. My first service with Magnet trap, semi synthetic, oil filter and few regular service just 190+.
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Errr...magnetrap is optional...for me...it is not necessary..magnetrap is to trap metal particles. Pls note that our engine block is made of aluminium alloy, only the piston are made of steel, in any case, there is minimal metal particels and our oil filter is supposed to trap all this in the 1st place...save the RM69.

Of course, if you are the type who does not change the oil filter often, magnetrap may be useful.
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(mel8z @ Mar 23 2013, 10:41 AM)
For you otais these questions might be boring n annoying but for new owners like me these might be important ones...just so you know ive tried searching n gone through the thread but on the 1st service thingy but theres a lot to go through...also search the front page but no info..in the end hv to ask also.. wink.gif
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yes, that's y i put a question here...what else need to add and put in first page?
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Pace @ Mar 23 2013, 10:33 AM)
Put on first page or Prevoc? No joke for somebody new to go through all the version and follow lyn daily.
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first page...fb prevoc dun have pages... sweat.gif

furthermore, fb group can only pin one post...
and yes, pls suggest what else the FAQ...
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Mar 23 2013, 11:00 AM)
maybe more trick and tips? like recommended tyre, a little mod to make the car better.
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okay, good input..

1. how much for 1st service, 2nd service,4rd service.
2. which sc provided good service
3. what is DIY engine mounting and german sausages.
4. fc.
5. recommended tyre
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post Mar 23 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Mar 23 2013, 11:03 AM)
Errr...magnetrap is optional...for me...it is not necessary..magnetrap is to trap metal particles. Pls note that our engine block is made of aluminium alloy, only the piston are made of steel, in any case, there is minimal metal particels and our oil filter is supposed to trap all this in the 1st place...save the RM69.

Of course, if you are the type who does not change the oil filter often, magnetrap may be useful.
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are u sure cfe engine is made of aluminium alloy... i never read it any where here.. might post some link?
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post Mar 23 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Mar 23 2013, 11:03 AM)
Errr...magnetrap is optional...for me...it is not necessary..magnetrap is to trap metal particles. Pls note that our engine block is made of aluminium alloy, only the piston are made of steel, in any case, there is minimal metal particels and our oil filter is supposed to trap all this in the 1st place...save the RM69.

Of course, if you are the type who does not change the oil filter often, magnetrap may be useful.
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I am not sure what material is it, for my opinion, some other part inside the engine might be metal. Pls take note that newer engine is tighter between the parts. This is y ppl recommend to use lower viscosity motor oil compare to older engine. If we can pay 72k for a car, why cant we buy some sort of insurance just for RM69? Just my 2cent wink.gif

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Mar 23 2013, 03:27 PM
maverickng
post Mar 23 2013, 03:14 PM

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engine block made of cast iron,crankshaft,conrod,liner,etc is steel
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post Mar 23 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Mar 23 2013, 03:14 PM)
engine block made of cast iron,crankshaft,conrod,liner,etc is steel
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agree..
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post Mar 23 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Mar 23 2013, 03:14 PM)
engine block made of cast iron,crankshaft,conrod,liner,etc is steel
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I agree too, if can provide some link to those info might be great, i am a curious learner lol but lazy to search sometime haha whistling.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 03:25 PM

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The Magnetrap product is a sound concept, except the magnets on it are too weak to be off any useful effect. Imagine, some users have complained that the bloody thing just fell off the car and disappeared.

Try to find a wrecked harddisk, open it up and take out the magnet, then find a way to fasten it to the oil filter.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 23 2013, 03:26 PM
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post Mar 23 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 23 2013, 03:25 PM)
The Magnetrap product is a sound concept, except the magnets on it are too weak to be off any useful effect. Imagine, some users have complained that the bloody thing just fell off the car and disappeared.

Try to find a wrecked harddisk, open it up and take out the magnet, then find a way to fasten it to the oil filter.
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It is not a concept, its proven. wink.gif

http://youtu.be/qvQvesH18nM
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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Mar 23 2013, 03:24 PM)
I agree too, if can provide some link to those info might be great, i am a curious learner lol but lazy to search sometime haha  whistling.gif
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http://kereta.info/proton-campro-1-6-cfe-engine/
some info about cfe

the drain plug there also got magnet d smile.gif

magnet trap recommend use for new engine,after 2-3 time change oil,no need use oredi
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post Mar 23 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Mar 23 2013, 03:33 PM)
It is not a concept, its proven.  wink.gif

http://youtu.be/qvQvesH18nM
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I know using Magnet to trap metal particles in the oil filter, or even using a magnetized oil filter, is a proven concept.

I'm saying that the Magnetrap product is a poor implementation of the idea due to the weak magnets (Like I've mentioned, some of them just just fell off the oil filter). I've offered an alternative in the second paragraph of my previous post smile.gif

There are also products in the market that have powerful magnets for this purpose, which costs a lot. Magnetrap is not one of them.

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post Mar 23 2013, 06:51 PM

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Hi guys..I test drove the preve executive auto earlier.. Just curious whether the engine is so loud is normal for cvt engine or not? Cos i could really hear the noise when i press on the pedal and some of the forumer, say that the insulation is good.. Is it everyone experiencing the same thing? The test drive car chassis number is 23k..But I could feel the sluggishness below 2krpm..has been remapped with new ecu or what? Thanks for clearing my doubts.. I particularly like the handling =D.
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QUOTE(Steven91 @ Mar 23 2013, 06:51 PM)
Hi guys..I test drove the preve executive auto earlier.. Just curious whether the engine is so loud is normal for cvt engine or not? Cos i could really hear the noise when i press on the pedal and some of the forumer, say that the insulation is good.. Is it everyone experiencing the same thing? The test drive car chassis number is 23k..But I could feel the sluggishness below 2krpm..has been remapped with new ecu or what? Thanks for clearing my doubts.. I particularly like the handling =D.
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apparently i think executive soundprove isnt as good as cfe.... not sure about it tho but cfe theres a ply of heatshield on the engine cover maybe that filters out a bit of sound
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post Mar 23 2013, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Mar 22 2013, 08:42 PM)
Have you done DIY engine mount? It does help a bit in removing some of the shaking...
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how to? 0 knowledge on automotive dude icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Mar 23 2013, 03:11 PM)
I am not sure what material is it, for my opinion, some other part inside the engine might be metal. Pls take note that newer engine is tighter between the parts. This is y ppl recommend to use lower viscosity motor oil compare to older engine. If we can pay 72k for a car, why cant we buy some sort of insurance just for RM69? Just my 2cent  wink.gif
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good one bud
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Steven91 @ Mar 23 2013, 06:51 PM)
Hi guys..I test drove the preve executive auto earlier.. Just curious whether the engine is so loud is normal for cvt engine or not? Cos i could really hear the noise when i press on the pedal and some of the forumer, say that the insulation is good.. Is it everyone experiencing the same thing? The test drive car chassis number is 23k..But I could feel the sluggishness below 2krpm..has been remapped with new ecu or what? Thanks for clearing my doubts.. I particularly like the handling =D.
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executive got test drive now? hmmm
i thought only CFE hv test drive. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Mar 23 2013, 08:10 PM)
executive got test drive now? hmmm
i thought only CFE hv test drive.  ohmy.gif
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Hi respected guys, has anyone experienced this warning lamps before? The car is moving smoothly and the gear lever is in 'D' position, suddenly the multi information display shows the press start stop button. What does it imply? Shall we continue driving and ignore the sign! or we must stop in a nearby safe place and press the start stop button to stop the engine, then restart again which is very troublesome. Please help. Thank you very much.

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post Mar 23 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(yfyee @ Mar 23 2013, 08:37 PM)
Hi respected guys, has anyone experienced this warning lamps before? The car is moving smoothly and the gear lever is in 'D' position, suddenly the multi information display shows the press start stop button. What does it imply? Shall we continue driving and ignore the sign! or we must stop in a nearby safe place and press the start stop button to stop the engine, then restart again which is very troublesome. Please help. Thank you very much.
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It is not a warning sign. Just telling you to press the button if you want to turn off the engine. This sign will appear if you start the car by pressing the button first before the brake then button to start. If you press the brake immediately after key fob insert and press button, youwon't see this sign. Spend some time to read the manual cover to cover. You will see that sign inside.

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