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yuy_hikaru
post Dec 26 2013, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(grayfoxmy @ Dec 25 2013, 11:45 PM)
Hi! It happen same to my fofo midnight color, sad it is. Currently, I'm trying to get in touch with the http://www.ezytouchup.com/ personnel to check if there are touch up paint package to purchase.

Will keep you posted =)
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Aiks...hope you can get ur fix soon =)

Actually my car has dent too, abit worry if i send it to a workshop outside, they will need to dismantle the front and rear bumper thus void the warranty/ Wat do u guys thing? perhaps i drive my car to a service centre to ask for opinion too today
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post Dec 26 2013, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(wee939 @ Dec 25 2013, 02:12 PM)
but i like the ST bumper and skirt more...can order at taobao china...rm 1500-2500 for full set
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are you on plus or non plus? If plus will be tougher as we have many features inside the front bumper that might not fit with the ST bumper, you need a very good sifu to convert it for you.

I've checked with one of the sifu from FB and he can't guarantee all features will be still use-able, and he can only fix when issue arise, so expect to go back a few times after the conversion.
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:24 AM

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Guys,

Check this out!! World Best Selling Cars in 2013

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/20...ther-surprises/
yuy_hikaru
post Dec 26 2013, 11:31 AM

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went to sc and check, they said wont void warranty and it costs about RM700k++ to respray. really wanna curse those reckless drivers in shopping mall car park T_T
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Dec 25 2013, 08:48 PM)
Since this is a non-Plus model, the sticker price is RM112.7K (can't include insurance, road tax, etc.). Most likely he/she enjoyed a certain degree of discount... let say RM3K? That would make it RM109.7K nett. I believe you are right that the 2nd hand dealer would need to make RM5K to make it worth their while... that would make the selling price to the dealer around RM82.7K. So RM82.7K/RM109.7K is around 24% 1st year depreciation.

I just did a comparison with a 2012 Honda Civic 2.0 (a purported leader in terms of resale value here)... on Carlist.my the average is going around RM111K. Using identical logic as above, the actual resale value would be RM106K and using the list price of RM127.6 less maybe RM3K in discounts, it would be RM106K/124.6K which is around 15%.

We have to see how it goes the 2nd year onwards, but usually the year-to-year depreciation between brands is a bit less than the initial year's plunge. Also, we have to take into account the FoFo's increasing popularity narrowing the gap somewhat.

Oooo!! We also have to factor in the 3 year free maintenance into the picture.

So we lose out.. what?.... RM20K after 5 years compared to a (yawn) Honda/Toyota? That is RM4K a year... a bit over RM300 per month extra? RM300 for:

- the sheer joy every time we get into the driver seat?
- being cushioned in styling & trim at least a class above?
- the exhilaration of being pressed back from the acceleration at almost ANY initial speed?
- the pin-sharp handling?

Damn good deal, if you ask me!!
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Yes, I concur with the above. I am not really relating to the depreciation of the Ford Focus alone but the overall depreciation of all vehicles. Once a downpayment is made on a new vehicle, I mean ANY new vehicle, the owner would have already lost RM20k+/- on the spot. Perhaps the depreciation of the Ford Focus is slightly higher, though I agree what we are getting in the quality, handling and performance of the car outweigh the lower resale value of it.

For those who value or cherish good handling, he/she would find it difficult to go back to a Honda or Toyota once he has experienced the driving dynamics of the Focus. Not forgetting the points you have highlighted above in the interior trim and fit and finish of the Focus (especially the Titanium sedan) which looks and feels premium in comparison to the mundane and cheap-looking Japanese. And yes, not forgetting the powerful acceleration. Man the Focus can surely speed at anytime with incredible burst of energy when called for. Truly an enthusiast car. It's not a sports car, but well, it's close as it double up as a practical family sedan.
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post Dec 26 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(usucx @ Dec 26 2013, 11:24 AM)
Guys,

Check this out!! World Best Selling Cars in 2013

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/20...ther-surprises/
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Interesting news. so the Ford Focus is the worldwide best selling car in year 2013. Funny that the Ford Focus is labelled as a "best-selling small car" in the article, and the Toyota Camry as a "mid-sized vehicle". I wonder what is considered as a "large-sized sedan" if the Camry is mid-sized.

Looks like apart from the excellent handling of the Focus, the Forbes article has reported that consumers worldwide have chosen the Focus for its fuel efficiency and compact size. Interesting the Focus is ahead of the Toyota Corolla, and Honda Civic doesn't even get into the top 10.
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post Dec 26 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Dec 26 2013, 10:23 AM)
are you on plus or non plus? If plus will be tougher as we have many features inside the front bumper that might not fit with the ST bumper, you need a very good sifu to convert it for you.

I've checked with one of the sifu from FB and he can't guarantee all features will be still use-able, and he can only fix when issue arise, so expect to go back a few times after the conversion.
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u mean the sifu have st bumper in his hand?or we need to bring our own st bumper to do that ?what features will not be functioned properly on plus version?

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Dwango
post Dec 26 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(usucx @ Dec 26 2013, 11:24 AM)
Guys,

Check this out!! World Best Selling Cars in 2013

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/20...ther-surprises/
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In Forbe's list, World's Best Selling Cars In 2013 :-

1) Ford Focus - approaching 1.1 million sales (oh yeah)
2) Toyota Corolla - 1,001,141 sales, lost its crown as the world's most popular car in 2012
3) Volkswagen Jetta - 905,869 sales
4) Hyundai Elantra - 866,000 sales
5) Chevrolet Cruze - 729,000 sales
6) Toyota Camry - 728,230 sales
7) Volkswagen Golf - 720,440 sales
8) Ford Fiesta - 705,287 sales
9) Honda CRV - 697,955 sales
10) Volkswagen Polo - 686,000 sales

Where are Toyota Vios and Honda City. Perhaps these models are only in great demand in Malaysia and not worldwide.
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post Dec 26 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(usucx @ Dec 26 2013, 11:24 AM)
Guys,

Check this out!! World Best Selling Cars in 2013

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/20...ther-surprises/
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Thanks for sharing, but there's argument in this as Toyota claim some of country renamed the corolla as altis in Malaysia for example, and the survey didn't include it, that was for year 2012, as year 2013 is not ended yet, we can''t really trust this figures just yet.

QUOTE(yuy_hikaru @ Dec 26 2013, 11:31 AM)
went to sc and check, they said wont void warranty and it costs about RM700k++ to respray. really wanna curse those reckless drivers in shopping mall car park T_T
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If it's not serious, just leave it or try out the DIY "paint for you"?

QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 26 2013, 11:38 AM)
Yes, I concur with the above. I am not really relating to the depreciation of the Ford Focus alone but the overall depreciation of all vehicles. Once a downpayment is made on a new vehicle, I mean ANY new vehicle, the owner would have already lost RM20k+/- on the spot. Perhaps the depreciation of the Ford Focus is slightly higher, though I agree what we are getting in the quality, handling and performance of the car outweigh the lower resale value of it.

For those who value or cherish good handling, he/she would find it difficult to go back to a Honda or Toyota once he has experienced the driving dynamics of the Focus. Not forgetting the points you have highlighted above in the interior trim and fit and finish of the Focus (especially the Titanium sedan) which looks and feels premium in comparison to the mundane and cheap-looking Japanese. And yes, not forgetting the powerful acceleration. Man the Focus can surely speed at anytime with incredible burst of energy when called for. Truly an enthusiast car. It's not a sports car, but well, it's close as it double up as a practical family sedan.
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Agreed on the part "never look back Toyota/Honda after driving the Ford", except for Mitsubishi and Mazda tongue.gif

QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 26 2013, 12:08 PM)
Interesting news. so the Ford Focus is the worldwide best selling car in year 2013. Funny that the Ford Focus is labelled as a "best-selling small car" in the article, and the Toyota Camry as a "mid-sized vehicle". I wonder what is considered as a "large-sized sedan" if the Camry is mid-sized.

Looks like apart from the excellent handling of the Focus, the Forbes article has reported that consumers worldwide have chosen the Focus for its fuel efficiency and compact size. Interesting the Focus is ahead of the Toyota Corolla, and Honda Civic doesn't even get into the top 10.
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Honda Civic has lost it's crown since this new generation came out, that's why the facelift came much earlier than the market anticipated.

QUOTE(wee939 @ Dec 26 2013, 01:07 PM)
u mean the sifu have st bumper in his hand?or we need to bring our own st bumper to do that ?what features will not be functioned properly on plus version?
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Yes, they do courier it in only on demand, meaning you have to pay certain amount of deposits before they place the order, and it's quite pricey, and they charge a bomb on the labour also cause the conversion works are not easy.

To give you an idea, it will cost about 5-10K for the front conversion and if you want to convert the back (the rear bumper with centre exhaust) as well, it will cost even more.

Some features like sensor for active city stop (if I'm not mistaken, it's not available in ST), active grill shutter, auto parking etc, I didn't listen much after knowing the cost rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 26 2013, 01:51 PM)
In Forbe's list, World's Best Selling Cars In 2013 :-

1) Ford Focus - approaching 1.1 million sales (oh yeah)
2) Toyota Corolla - 1,001,141 sales, lost its crown as the world's most popular car in 2012
3) Volkswagen Jetta - 905,869 sales
4) Hyundai Elantra - 866,000 sales
5) Chevrolet Cruze - 729,000 sales
6) Toyota Camry - 728,230 sales
7) Volkswagen Golf - 720,440 sales
8) Ford Fiesta - 705,287 sales
9) Honda CRV - 697,955 sales
10) Volkswagen Polo - 686,000 sales

Where are Toyota Vios and Honda City. Perhaps these models are only in great demand in Malaysia and not worldwide.
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Obviously Vios and City are like our SLK (small little kancil) outside Malaysia, people drive to nearby market or visit their neighbour only, sad, but it's true.
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post Dec 26 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Dec 26 2013, 03:03 PM)
Yes, they do courier it in only on demand, meaning you have to pay certain amount of deposits before they place the order, and it's quite pricey, and they charge a bomb on the labour also cause the conversion works are not easy.

To give you an idea, it will cost about 5-10K for the front conversion and if you want to convert the back (the rear bumper with centre exhaust) as well, it will cost even more.

Some features like sensor for active city stop (if I'm not mistaken, it's not available in ST), active grill shutter, auto parking etc, I didn't listen much after knowing the cost  rclxub.gif
then useless for the mod...if im owning a sport plus...but the front bumper really nice looking

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post Dec 26 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Dec 26 2013, 03:03 PM)

If it's not serious, just leave it or try out the DIY "paint for you"?

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The paint chip is not major, i think can be done by using the DIY paint, is the small dent that is very eyesore =(
Feeling very upset coz its still very new and dislike the fact ppl knock your car and run away like tat. Its not monetary but more on proper manners....
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post Dec 26 2013, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(wee939 @ Dec 26 2013, 03:32 PM)
then useless for the mod...if im owning a sport plus...but the front bumper really nice looking
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I think sure can fix de, just need time for trial and error, I'm keeping this in view for now, and hopefully two, three years down the road, there's will be some white rats managed to fixed it all, then it's time to convert biggrin.gif

QUOTE(yuy_hikaru @ Dec 26 2013, 04:46 PM)
The paint chip is not major, i think can be done by using the DIY paint, is the small dent that is very eyesore =(
Feeling very upset coz its still very new and dislike the fact ppl knock your car and run away like tat. Its not monetary but more on proper manners....
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I know what you meant, I just have to keep telling myself car is a wear and tear thing, nothing last forever nor nothing is perfect smile.gif
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Just curious, does the local Focus has auto high beam feature?


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post Dec 26 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(yuy_hikaru @ Dec 26 2013, 04:46 PM)
The paint chip is not major, i think can be done by using the DIY paint, is the small dent that is very eyesore =(
Feeling very upset coz its still very new and dislike the fact ppl knock your car and run away like tat. Its not monetary but more on proper manners....
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Yeah, it's a turn-off when you suddenly notice a dent or scratch on the metallic paint of your vehicle once you are back from shopping or at home. It is inevitable even though one is careful due to the carelessness or inconsiderate behavior of others. Mostly careless adults or small kids and teenagers.

Usually the mishap happens when you park your vehicle in parallel parking in shopping malls or open areas. Most of these parking areas are tight, and usually there aren't much space in between vehicles. Paint chips, dents or scratches mostly happen here. I am always careful when I open the door so as it won't bang the vehicle that is parked beside of mine, but others may not be so careful. The only option to minimize damage to the metallic paint of your vehicle is to park "nicely" or in a better parking spot, and keep a distance away from large trucks, lorries or busses when driving on the highways as small stones tend to fly from the wheels of these large vehicles that may eventually hit your front bumper or the windscreen.
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Hi. I going to get my candy red sport plus this Saturday. Just wonder, do Ford need any "run-in" period? Like Japan made car, normally they told us to keep below 100km for the 1st 1,000km milages.
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QUOTE(Junher @ Dec 26 2013, 07:40 PM)
Hi. I going to get my candy red sport plus this Saturday. Just wonder, do Ford need any "run-in" period? Like Japan made car, normally they told us to keep below 100km for the 1st 1,000km milages.
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Hi there, congratulations on the Sports. Don't worry about the run-in period too much. You'll get to know most or everything about the car once you get the user manual.

In the user manual Driving Hints page 149, it was mentioned in Running-In :-

Avoid driving too fast during the first 1500km(1000miles). Vary your speed frequently and change up through the gears early. Do not labour the engine.


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post Dec 26 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 26 2013, 07:28 PM)
Yeah, it's a turn-off when you suddenly notice a dent or scratch on the metallic paint of your vehicle once you are back from shopping or at home. It is inevitable even though one is careful due to the carelessness or inconsiderate behavior of others. Mostly careless adults or small kids and teenagers.

Usually the mishap happens when you park your vehicle in parallel parking in shopping malls or open areas. Most of these parking areas are tight, and usually there aren't much space in between vehicles. Paint chips, dents or scratches mostly happen here. I am always careful when I open the door so as it won't bang the vehicle that is parked beside of mine, but others may not be so careful. The only option to minimize damage to the metallic paint of your vehicle is to park "nicely" or in a better parking spot, and keep a distance away from large trucks, lorries or busses when driving on the highways as small stones tend to fly from the wheels of these large vehicles that may eventually hit your front bumper or the windscreen.
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My trick is I always try to find a parking spot at the:-

1) Corner, less 50% chance your car being bang by other car because only one side is exposed.
2) Park near to the beam/pole, so that only 1 side is exposed to another car.
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:41 PM

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By increasing the other 50% being scratch by "soaring eye" peeps on the corner since hardly noticeable.

What I'm saying, It's depend on your luck.
I gave a 3 quarter door opening size parking distance next to the car, still they managed to knock hard enough to dinked my paint. Sigh.



QUOTE(AmyDazz @ Dec 26 2013, 11:31 PM)
My trick is I always try to find a parking spot at the:-

1) Corner, less 50% chance your car being bang by other car because only one side is exposed.
2) Park near to the beam/pole, so that only 1 side is exposed to another car.
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post Dec 27 2013, 09:46 AM

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New owner here smile.gif
Got it last Saturday from SDPJ. Candy red sport+ rclxms.gif

Saw some member had trouble with loan?
Mine was quite pleasant, the document was submitted in the morning and after lunch already approved.
The banker even came to my office to let me sign the paper, cut the trouble for me to travel to their office!

The driving itself is really mind opening. Was driving a 10yrs old nissan sentra 1.6, nothing is the same...
The upgrade in power and the refined handling in the focus is really... fuuh!! Even my wife not being a car enthusiast also comment on the power and handling the first time she drive smile.gif

I had drove 3 generations(5,6,7) of civic before, no match at all in terms of handling. Not comparing power since capacity is different.

Fuel consumption for 1st tank wasn't recorded, now running on 2nd tank d, after half tank (3++km) it is doing 7.3 so far (40city/60highway). Not sure it makes a different, I am using Shell Ron97. Gonna let the engine taste the fine fuel for a bit before changing to Ron95 sad.gif

There was juddering with 1st gear in the first few hundred km, very noticeable and concerning. Now the mileage is 800km d and the juddering already reducing.

Noise wise, had audio turned off and windows rolled down to check for interior and exterior noise, no unpleasant noise so far.

Any one can comment on the audio system? Personally I think it is very good though I am not audiophile.

Gonna check on the steering wheel plastic rubbing noise later.

Some minor problem so far:

1. Where do u guys put ur nav/phone when driving other than stick it to the windscreen? I am laying it in front of the meter, covering the fuel level and water temperature with a gecko pad.

2. The usb port... really sweat lor sweat.gif , not powerful enough to charge the phone. The power even deplete when I'm on nav + bluetooth even though is plugged in.

3. Bluetooth sync seems to be problematic if u do not have bluetooth turned on when attempt to connect, it will keep failing to connect even if u turned on the bluetooth later.

4. My front sensor is blocked by the number plate, it is always red when I park the car... and the rear number plate is not centered... Gotta send to SC... considering to walk in without appointment since its just a small matter

5. The glove compartment is not convenient doh.gif . I prefer the drawer type. But not a major issue since the center box is very large.

6. Very hard to get a good sitting posture for my wife, she is short (155cm). Line of sight very bad for her. If pump up the seat, leg cannot reach pedal. If pump down, cannot see front. Already scratched the bumper 1st day on the road. Very minor and not noticeable though.

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post Dec 27 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 26 2013, 07:28 PM)
Yeah, it's a turn-off when you suddenly notice a dent or scratch on the metallic paint of your vehicle once you are back from shopping or at home. It is inevitable even though one is careful due to the carelessness or inconsiderate behavior of others. Mostly careless adults or small kids and teenagers.

Usually the mishap happens when you park your vehicle in parallel parking in shopping malls or open areas. Most of these parking areas are tight, and usually there aren't much space in between vehicles. Paint chips, dents or scratches mostly happen here. I am always careful when I open the door so as it won't bang the vehicle that is parked beside of mine, but others may not be so careful. The only option to minimize damage to the metallic paint of your vehicle is to park "nicely" or in a better parking spot, and keep a distance away from large trucks, lorries or busses when driving on the highways as small stones tend to fly from the wheels of these large vehicles that may eventually hit your front bumper or the windscreen.
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QUOTE(AmyDazz @ Dec 26 2013, 11:31 PM)
My trick is I always try to find a parking spot at the:-

1) Corner, less 50% chance your car being bang by other car because only one side is exposed.
2) Park near to the beam/pole, so that only 1 side is exposed to another car.
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QUOTE(grayfoxmy @ Dec 26 2013, 11:41 PM)
By increasing the other 50% being scratch by "soaring eye" peeps on the corner since hardly noticeable.

What I'm saying, It's depend on your luck.
I gave a 3 quarter door opening size parking distance next to the car, still they managed to knock hard enough to dinked my paint. Sigh.
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I agree that it is luck issues. I have been telling my gf i doesnt want to visit that place as the parking spots are very cramp and it will give rise to alot of opportunity for reckless drivers to hit you.

In fact i hv been very careful selecting my parking slots. I park next to a corner pillar so i minimise the chance of getting scratches. Nonetheless, it still happens.

Went to a uncle's workshop, he has help me to minimise the dent by pushing it out but did not want to spray it as i will loose majority of the original paint on the side panel.

oh well...anyone has good midnight sky diy paint kit i can use to touchup the chip so it does not get rusted easily?

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