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mistasmit
post Dec 23 2013, 02:24 AM

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Hey guys. Im a newbie here. Let me put it straight guys, im interested in the Ford Focus ST. Been doing some reaserch on the car. Mostly good reviews. But that worries me is the parts availability and the after sales service. Saw alot of complaints on FB. Soo now im a bit hesitant.

Soo tell me guys... should i go for it?

Any ST owners care to give me some thoughts??

Thank guys

ps - not going for VW Golf gti... hate the design. I like my cars to be understated smile.gif
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post Dec 23 2013, 04:23 AM

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QUOTE(styloh @ Dec 19 2013, 08:03 PM)
Hi guys, after I lock my fofo, there's a red blinking "i" in the middle of the dashboard. I've checked the menu, messages, and it says system is normal. What could be the cause of the blinking red i?
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Its only blinking after you lock your car, its for PATS (Passive Anti Theift Security System)
If its blinking during you driving the car thats mean something wrong
SportyHandling
post Dec 23 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:38 PM)
What's this TCM?
I also have the steering wheel sound when turning, not sure it's considered as a defect?

As for the "kruk kruk kruk" sounds, it's a norm for me as I've been driving my friend's fiesta, and when the sound system is on, one could hardly hear this noise. or should I say, neglect-able?
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Don't know about the TCM. It is something that Ford publishes, though I'm not sure if the service centres here in Malaysia follow this TCM thing since it's more of a worldwide publish.

As for the steering wheel friction sound when turning it left and right, you have it on your vehicle as well? Hmmm, looks like it's not my vehicle. I consider it as a defect as there should not be any sound from the steering wheel at all. Even Protons do not have these friction sound when turning the steering wheel left or right. I will bring the car to the service centre sometime this week to complain on this.

Kruk Kruk sound, I don't hear that too often now. When I attempt to pick up all rattling noises in the car, I will usually leave the stereo switched off. Yes, with the sound system at moderate volume levels, all these noises will not be heard.
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:38 PM)
What's this TCM?
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 23 2013, 08:53 AM)
Don't know about the TCM. It is something that Ford publishes, though I'm not sure if the service centres here in Malaysia follow this TCM thing since it's more of a worldwide publish.

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TCM = Transmission Control Module. It's basically the computer for your Powershift gearbox, it is attached to your gearbox.

When the SC says update the TCM, that means they are loading new software to your TCM.
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 22 2013, 04:29 PM)
I had just driven the Focus up to Genting Highlands yesterday. One word. Fabulous handling and power up the twisty steep road. I briefly switched between D and S several times and found that the S mode is the way to go. The engine is free-revving and after exiting from a sharp bend, the instantaneous power delivery is excellent as the vehicle accelerated effortlessly on the straights up the steep slope. Rpms are kept high throughout the journey up the steep gradient mostly 4000+/- in S mode and sometimes above 5000 on the short straights.

It is just pure fun to manouevre the Focus around the twisty bends as the vehicle kept its composure well enough. Some of the vehicles I overtook when on the way up are my previous car which I have sold, the Nissan Sylphy(poor handling) and Mercedes Benz.

At some sections near the top, there are some very steep sections especially on the inside of a sharp bend, and usually vehicles will choose to go on the outer side of the bend since those path are less steep. Some vehicles were hogging the entire road, choosing most of the outer side of every bend. I overtook some vehicles using the inner side of a bend that is the steepest portion of the bend, and although the power came in slowly when the vehicle accelerated up the steep gradient, it gained momentum after a while, and the overtaking process is relatively effortless. I am particularly impressed not only by the handling prowess of the Focus but also the power that it has in spades. It is surely fun to have the Focus on these challenging driving conditions.

When I reached the multi-level car park, I have to go round several times as mostly all are full. When I was about to park the vehicle, the display suddenly showed transmission is heating and requested to switch off for 5 minutes. I guess the transmission had been working hard as the driver was having too much fun in Sports mode.

When going down Genting, I used Sports mode throughout but occasionally changed to D on the flatter/less steep sections or the straights. The rpms shot up high several times in S mode, and I guess the engine braking is at work when the vehicle was gaining speed at those steep sections. At several sections, areas with gentler slope and long straights, D is preferable as the acceleration is more uniform with the rpms kept lower. In S, the acceleration is somewhat restrained by the engine braking and high rpms. When switching between S and D, I accidentally changed to N twice, but quickly switched to D when I realise that.

This time, I was overtaking each and every vehicle during this Genting Highland trip, both going up and coming down. During my last Genting trip in the Nissan Sylphy earlier this year, almost every vehicle was overtaking my vehicle, even some of the large double-decker buses. This time, the table was turned. :-) When exiting to the Karak highway, again, just a great feeling taking those curving roads in the Focus.

Lastly, no issues with jerking or grinding sound during the whole trip. Overall I am satisfied with the handling and power of the car. Just a slight plastic friction sound of the steering wheel which I will bring up to the service centre soon, though the performance of the car far outweigh its weaknesses.
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Thanks for sharing, now you make me feels like making a trip to Genting/Cameron/Fraser Hill soon.

QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 23 2013, 08:53 AM)
Don't know about the TCM. It is something that Ford publishes, though I'm not sure if the service centres here in Malaysia follow this TCM thing since it's more of a worldwide publish.

As for the steering wheel friction sound when turning it left and right, you have it on your vehicle as well? Hmmm, looks like it's not my vehicle. I consider it as a defect as there should not be any sound from the steering wheel at all. Even Protons do not have these friction sound when turning the steering wheel left or right. I will bring the car to the service centre sometime this week to complain on this.

Kruk Kruk sound, I don't hear that too often now. When I attempt to pick up all rattling noises in the car, I will usually leave the stereo switched off. Yes, with the sound system at moderate volume levels, all these noises will not be heard.
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Not sure if we're talking the same sound here, do you normally use the turning signal before turning? the sounds "dek dek dek" was quite loud actually so hardly can hear that friction sounds unless I forgotten to put on signal sometimes.
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Dec 23 2013, 10:37 AM)
Thanks for sharing, now you make me feels like making a trip to Genting/Cameron/Fraser Hill soon.
Not sure if we're talking the same sound here, do you normally use the turning signal before turning? the sounds "dek dek dek" was quite loud actually so hardly can hear that friction sounds unless I forgotten to put on signal sometimes.
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Thanks. Fortunately my wife is more tolerant with sportier driving manners. If my parents or in-laws are on board on the same journey, there is no way I could drive the way I did up to Genting Highlands. Having said that, I didn't really test the car near to its limits yet. If I were alone driving the car I could have had more fun. :-)

I'm only on the sedan, so I could imagine what the hatchback could offer with increased levels of handling. Apart from the impressive power on tap, one very noticeable aspect that is worth mentioning about the Focus is the low body roll of the vehicle during cornering. The is no feeling that the vehicle is going to topple over or turn upside down when taking sharp corners at moderate speeds(that feeling is very high with the Nissan Sylphy). The vehicle is stable during cornering with very low body roll. Coupled by the light and responsive steering, it gives the driver a sense of full control over the vehicle with a sportier drive.

As for the friction sound when turning the steering wheel, I use the turning signal most of the time when I change lanes. When on traffic lights, I usually don't use the turning signal. Yes, the turning signal sound of the Focus, the "dek dek" sound when the turning signal is on, is quite loud. I am not referring to this sound of course. The friction sound when turning the steering wheel is completely different sound from this turning signal sound. It is a very soft sound akin of plastic rubbing against each other. I am sure this is a defect as in the first 3000km I don't have this sound. Only just lately the sound came up.
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 23 2013, 10:09 AM)
TCM = Transmission Control Module. It's basically the computer for your Powershift gearbox, it is attached to your gearbox.

When the SC says update the TCM, that means they are loading new software to your TCM.
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Okay thanks. I mistakenly took TCM as TSB, the service bulletin or something.
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post Dec 23 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 23 2013, 10:51 AM)
Thanks. Fortunately my wife is more tolerant with sportier driving manners. If my parents or in-laws are on board on the same journey, there is no way I could drive the way I did up to Genting Highlands. Having said that, I didn't really test the car near to its limits yet. If I were alone driving the car I could have had more fun. :-)

I'm only on the sedan, so I could imagine what the hatchback could offer with increased levels of handling. Apart from the impressive power on tap, one very noticeable aspect that is worth mentioning about the Focus is the low body roll of the vehicle during cornering. The is no feeling that the vehicle is going to topple over or turn upside down when taking sharp corners at moderate speeds(that feeling is very high with the Nissan Sylphy). The vehicle is stable during cornering with very low body roll. Coupled by the light and responsive steering, it gives the driver a sense of full control over the vehicle with a sportier drive.
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Reminds me of a rather similar experience when I was returning to KL from Kuantan on Karak highway. Pure fun especially the 20km twisty stretch that is leading to the toll at KL. Not that i was driving exceptionally fast. About 120km/h on the bends and 150km/h on the straights. Not too sure where are the usual locations of the speed trap on this highway but I always attempt to go past the highway limits once I'm close to the toll.

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post Dec 23 2013, 10:45 PM

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Went 1st service today at sac PJ.. 7 hours of time to get normal service plus a complaint of noise on uneven road. Ended up with diagnosis of faulty steering rack assy for the noise we are all complaining about on uneven roadster .. the service advisor will submit for warranty claim and part order... probably in about 2 weeks should get call once part arrive. Was told need to leave the car for 2 days there to get it replaced.
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post Dec 24 2013, 07:07 PM

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Any difference in terms of after sales service for buying Focus from Sime Darby and normal Dealer?

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xphr3ak
post Dec 24 2013, 10:34 PM

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hello guys,
i am thinking to get 2.0 (A) 2006 ford focus.
May i know what is the fuel consumption for this model?
Saw this car in mudah.my... dirt cheap.
please advise.

thanks.
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post Dec 25 2013, 07:42 AM

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Found this in Mudah...

http://m.mudah.my/view?q=+ford+focus&ca=9_...&ad_id=24826709
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post Dec 25 2013, 09:40 AM

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Merry Christmas to all
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post Dec 25 2013, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(sigmagadget @ Dec 25 2013, 07:42 AM)
RM87.7k for a less than 1 year old model. Since the seller is a 2nd hand car dealer, the original owner must have traded in the car less than the selling price, at least RM5k cheaper. That's more than RM30k depreciation after about 1 year.
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post Dec 25 2013, 12:32 PM

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i am wondering if we could modify fofo front bumper to ST version..
ST version

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post Dec 25 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(wee939 @ Dec 25 2013, 12:32 PM)
i am wondering if we could modify fofo front bumper to ST version..
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I suppose the bumper of the ST version needs to be ordered. Anyway the current design on the Focus Mk3 is nicer than the ST version's bumper, to me.

Funny avatar I found on the FocusFanatics forum. user posted image
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post Dec 25 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 25 2013, 01:41 PM)
I suppose the bumper of the ST version needs to be ordered. Anyway the current design on the Focus Mk3 is nicer than the ST version's bumper, to me.

Funny avatar I found on the FocusFanatics forum. user posted image
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but i like the ST bumper and skirt more...can order at taobao china...rm 1500-2500 for full set
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post Dec 25 2013, 04:37 PM

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hey guys

my car got scratched by some reckless drivers in a shopping mall parking, any recommendation for workshops which perform good touch up in klang valley? my color is midnight blue...thks
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post Dec 25 2013, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Dec 25 2013, 10:19 AM)
RM87.7k for a less than 1 year old model. Since the seller is a 2nd hand car dealer, the original owner must have traded in the car less than the selling price, at least RM5k cheaper. That's more than RM30k depreciation after about 1 year.
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Since this is a non-Plus model, the sticker price is RM112.7K (can't include insurance, road tax, etc.). Most likely he/she enjoyed a certain degree of discount... let say RM3K? That would make it RM109.7K nett. I believe you are right that the 2nd hand dealer would need to make RM5K to make it worth their while... that would make the selling price to the dealer around RM82.7K. So RM82.7K/RM109.7K is around 24% 1st year depreciation.

I just did a comparison with a 2012 Honda Civic 2.0 (a purported leader in terms of resale value here)... on Carlist.my the average is going around RM111K. Using identical logic as above, the actual resale value would be RM106K and using the list price of RM127.6 less maybe RM3K in discounts, it would be RM106K/124.6K which is around 15%.

We have to see how it goes the 2nd year onwards, but usually the year-to-year depreciation between brands is a bit less than the initial year's plunge. Also, we have to take into account the FoFo's increasing popularity narrowing the gap somewhat.

Oooo!! We also have to factor in the 3 year free maintenance into the picture.

So we lose out.. what?.... RM20K after 5 years compared to a (yawn) Honda/Toyota? That is RM4K a year... a bit over RM300 per month extra? RM300 for:

- the sheer joy every time we get into the driver seat?
- being cushioned in styling & trim at least a class above?
- the exhilaration of being pressed back from the acceleration at almost ANY initial speed?
- the pin-sharp handling?

Damn good deal, if you ask me!!

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QUOTE(yuy_hikaru @ Dec 25 2013, 04:37 PM)
hey guys

my car got scratched by some reckless drivers in a shopping mall parking, any recommendation for workshops which perform good touch up in klang valley? my color is midnight blue...thks
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Hi! It happen same to my fofo midnight color, sad it is. Currently, I'm trying to get in touch with the http://www.ezytouchup.com/ personnel to check if there are touch up paint package to purchase.

Will keep you posted =)




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