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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 03:15 PM)
thank you. really good idea eg for year end holiday rclxm9.gif then can stop over few places and see see look look. but need to do a lot of arrangement.
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Asiamile's OneWorld Multi Carrier program to me offers the best bang of the buck for miles redemption. I have given up on Enrich, although 90% of my flights are MH. Most of my crediting now go to BAEC and AsiaMiles where i can get more value for money.

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 03:13 PM)
Got it!

Anyways KUL-SIN-HEL-SIN-KUL is 11890nm, and costs only 115000 AsiaMiles to redeem via their OW Multicarrier Awards programme.
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asia miles and one world is interlink? I am new to loyalty programme and so much for me to learn doh.gif
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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 03:23 PM)
asia miles and one world is interlink? I am new to loyalty programme and so much for me to learn  doh.gif
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U can book OneWorld flights with AsiaMiles, same as MH.

Just that Asia Miles has better redemption rates and condition compare if book via MH.

Read more from here: https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts * as refer to previous post, the most bottom section.


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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 03:23 PM)
asia miles and one world is interlink? I am new to loyalty programme and so much for me to learnĀ  doh.gif
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OneWorld is an alliance of various airlines. Few notable airlines include MAS, Cathay, Qatar Airways, Finnair, British Airways, Qantas etc.

AsiaMiles is the way you accumulate points, a frequent flier program. MAS is called Enrich, Singapore Airlines is Krisflyer, AirAsia with AirAsia BIG. Understand that you have treat points from Maybank2Premier, you have an option to redeem miles for MH's Enrich, CX's AsiaMiles, AK's BIG.

All of the respective airline's frequent flier program offers redemption for flights on their airline and their OneWorld partner. Meaning if you have miles in Enrich you can redeem your miles to flights not only on MH but also the rest of the OW airlines.

The only difference is how much they cost. Different program different cost for flights. Face value, MH Enrich is one of the most expensive option I find. AsiaMiles is okay but its hard to get seats on their flights, but their OneWorld Multicarrier Awards program offers a lot of value. British Airways short haul redemption is good with a lot confirmed tickets.

AsiaMiles OneWorld Multicarrier Award scheme charges you on the total distance you travel the whole journey.

https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts (At the bottom is the chart for AMOWMC)

KUL-SIN-HEL-SIN-KUL costs 115000 asiamiles to redeem based on this scheme.

If its a regular return ticket redemption, a return ticket via AsiaMiles SIN-HEL-SIN is 120000asiamiles, you will still need to redeem KUL-SIN-KUL, or buy your own ticket.

MAS' Enrich costs 132000enrich points for a return ticket SIN-HEL-SIN.

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 03:13 PM)
Got it!

Anyways KUL-SIN-HEL-SIN-KUL is 11890nm, and costs only 115000 AsiaMiles to redeem via their OW Multicarrier Awards programme.
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i got blocked from HK CS for redeeming MH flight on OWMCA.

QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 03:29 PM)
British Airways short haul redemption is good with a lot confirmed tickets.
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BA's ClubEurope is totally waste of time/not worth of value except u get to enjoy the lounge before fly.
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post Sep 19 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 03:29 PM)
OneWorld is an alliance of various airlines. Few notable airlines include MAS, Cathay, Qatar Airways, Finnair, British Airways, Qantas etc.

AsiaMiles is the way you accumulate points, a frequent flier program. MAS is called Enrich, Singapore Airlines is Krisflyer, AirAsia with AirAsia BIG. Understand that you have treat points from Maybank2Premier, you have an option to redeem miles for MH's Enrich, CX's AsiaMiles, AK's BIG.

All of the respective airline's frequent flier program offers redemption for flights on their airline and their OneWorld partner. Meaning if you have miles in Enrich you can redeem your miles to flights not only on MH but also the rest of the OW airlines.

The only difference is how much they cost. Different program different cost for flights. Face value, MH Enrich is one of the most expensive option I find. AsiaMiles is okay but its hard to get seats on their flights, but their OneWorld Multicarrier Awards program offers a lot of value. British Airways short haul redemption is good with a lot confirmed tickets.

AsiaMiles OneWorld Multicarrier Award scheme charges you on the total distance you travel the whole journey.

https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts (At the bottom is the chart for AMOWMC)

KUL-SIN-HEL-SIN-KUL costs 115000 asiamiles to redeem based on this scheme.

If its a regular return ticket redemption, a return ticket via AsiaMiles SIN-HEL-SIN is 120000asiamiles, you will still need to redeem KUL-SIN-KUL, or buy your own ticket.

MAS' Enrich costs 132000enrich points for a return ticket SIN-HEL-SIN.
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wondering how you can come out with 132000 enrich miles for SIN-HEL-SIN? I cant find it in enrich online
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QUOTE(herc @ Sep 19 2016, 03:35 PM)
i got blocked from HK CS for redeeming MH flight on OWMCA.
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Heard of it but thats weird

QUOTE(herc @ Sep 19 2016, 03:35 PM)
BA's ClubEurope is totally waste of time/not worth of value except u get to enjoy the lounge before fly.
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I use it almost exclusively on my HKG-TPE-HKG makan trips. ONE WAY costs 4500 Avios on Y, 9000 Avios on J. Excellent value! Even better if you're OWE, access to Pier F and Wing F. CX lounge in TPE is really good also.

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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 03:43 PM)
wondering how you can come out with 132000 enrich miles for SIN-HEL-SIN? I cant find it in enrich online
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http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/nz/en/enri...r-airlines.html

www.gcmap.com to see how far your flight is then compare to the chart.

HEL-SIN is 5761miles in distance, from the chart a return Y ticket is 72000 miles, return J ticket is 132000 miles.

I'm a bit out of touch with MH's enrich, sifu please advise if i'm looking at the wrong thing.

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I find out the best point of asia miles is member can book multicarrier flight online. unlike mas enrich, lots of destination cant do it and book online
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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 03:49 PM)
I find out the best point of asia miles is member can book multicarrier flight online. unlike mas enrich, lots of destination cant do it and book online
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for complicated route, u still need to call them, be prepared for a long duration on call but the final outcome is definitely worth it.

my last booking with them doesn't seems much satisfy, sort out by issuing 2 separate tickets, cost more miles but get to fly where I want, no choice
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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 03:49 PM)
I find out the best point of asia miles is member can book multicarrier flight online. unlike mas enrich, lots of destination cant do it and book online
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Word of advise just check with both Enrich and Asiamiles on how much you gotta pay in cash. I've heard of exorbitant surcharges for Finnair flights.
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thank you all sifus here for all the advice. Today really a good lesson for me.
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a point to note, if you're planning to book KUL - HKG segment to fly after 1st May 2017, there's no award seat yet as flight has been transferred from CX to KA (Cathay Dragon) which is their subsidiary. I'm trying to change my ticket and have been stuck because of this. If you chk in Dragonair website, redemption for KUL - HKG or HKG - KUL is under travel restriction.

A side note, Enrich CS even have the balls to argue with me that KA is Korean Air... when i called up to request to change the itinerary, she says i need to rebook on Korean Air flight because the initial booking is on Korean Air. My previous booking was on Cathay Pacific (flight code CX).
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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Sep 19 2016, 02:05 PM)
location wise and ease of travel mas still the prefer one.

1. if choose krysflyer, I heard fellow forumers said always need to be on waiting list and therefore this is an issue to consider.

2. if choose asiamiles, location and time consume and waiting list is big issue as everytime we need to fly to hong kong.

3. therefore the only option left for me is to try redeem enrich miles on oneworld partner airlines?

perhaps someone that have more experience can enlighten us? rclxub.gif
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I can second on point #2, where the J class redemption for CX is limited compare to QR/MH! But they are good so you might want to be flexible on your schedule if you intend to travel with them.

QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 03:07 PM)
Allow me to offer my two cents in getting bang of buck for your miles. Credit into AsiaMiles and take advantage of AsiaMile's One World Multi Carrier Award programme.

https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts  Scroll to bottomest.

KUL-HKG-HEL-HKG-KUL is a total distance of 12869miles which falls into Award Zone 08 in the AMOWMC Chart. You can fly KUL-HKG-HEL-HKG-KUL for only 115000 AsiaMiles per pax in J. AMOWMC also allows maximum of five stopovers, two transfers and two open-jaws at either origin, en-route or turnaround point. You can mix match your itinerary. KUL-HKG-HEL //  OSL-LHR-KUL (if you want a direct flight back).

Rather than spending 120000 miles on a single sector why not take opportunity of this.

*sorry i bash enrich in an enrich thread  cry.gif
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That's true! AM seems to have much value on the OWMC redemption compare to EM. But for the ease of travel and booking, EM still wins!


QUOTE(herc @ Sep 19 2016, 04:03 PM)
for complicated route, u still need to call them, be prepared for a long duration on call but the final outcome is definitely worth it.

my last booking with them doesn't seems much satisfy, sort out by issuing 2 separate tickets, cost more miles but get to fly where I want, no choice
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I used to redeem OWMC with AM, and the call was indeed super looooooong!! But if you only want to redeem CX/KA/QR/BA flights, you can do it directly in AM website rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 19 2016, 04:23 PM)
a point to note, if you're planning to book KUL - HKG segment to fly after 1st May 2017, there's no award seat yet as flight has been transferred from CX to KA (Cathay Dragon) which is their subsidiary. I'm trying to change my ticket and have been stuck because of this. If you chk in Dragonair website, redemption for KUL - HKG or HKG - KUL is under travel restriction.

A side note, Enrich CS even have the balls to argue with me that KA is Korean Air... when i called up to request to change the itinerary, she says i need to rebook on Korean Air flight because the initial booking is on Korean Air. My previous booking was on Cathay Pacific (flight code CX).
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Really sad to see CX is dumping KUL-HKG route!! KA is never the same as CX cry.gif
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QUOTE(ho-ll @ Sep 19 2016, 04:56 PM)
Really sad to see CX is dumping KUL-HKG route!! KA is never the same as CX  cry.gif
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No more cirrus seats sad.gif
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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 04:58 PM)
No more cirrus seats  sad.gif
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well, on flyertalk, most people prefer KA on short haul (Sub 4 hours) due to better food and service. Also getting the reverse herringbone seat on regional flight is like playing russian roulette... Only get that seat if CX is flying their long haul plan on regional. Otherwise the seats are the same as KA.

I hope they solve the transition issue soon cos need to amend my return date...
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 19 2016, 05:02 PM)
well, on flyertalk, most people prefer KA on short haul (Sub 4 hours) due to better food and service. Also getting the reverse herringbone seat on regional flight is like playing russian roulette... Only get that seat if CX is flying their long haul plan on regional. Otherwise the seats are the same as KA.

I hope they solve the transition issue soon cos need to amend my return date...
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With careful planning you can ! Also transitioning to KA means the end of BA/AA codes on this route.

Anyways, any timeframe till the changes can be made?

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 19 2016, 05:02 PM)
well, on flyertalk, most people prefer KA on short haul (Sub 4 hours) due to better food and service. Also getting the reverse herringbone seat on regional flight is like playing russian roulette... Only get that seat if CX is flying their long haul plan on regional. Otherwise the seats are the same as KA.

I hope they solve the transition issue soon cos need to amend my return date...
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2 years ago when I used to travel with KA between HKG-PEK (3 hours+ flight), getting personal entertainment is like playing russian roulette even on A330! Hahahha~ But I presume they have updated their seats recently so hopefully the flight deployed between KUL-HKG will be a better one.

One good thing about KA though, there's HaagenDazs!!! wub.gif

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Sep 19 2016, 05:11 PM)
With careful planning you can ! Also transitioning to KA means the end of BA/AA codes on this route.

Anyways, any timeframe till the changes can be made?
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no idea yet.. trying to contact CX customer service to enquire is like worse than calling air asia... on hold forever.

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