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TSQuazacolt
post Dec 20 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 03:50 PM)
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resync'd my d3up, and damn i traded 40k ehp for 2k dps doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 03:49 PM)
So, waklu do you feel pain on RD elites?
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Usually 1 hit KO to myself cry.gif

But the weird thing is, not all RD elites/champions can kill me upon first hit. Some will take half my HP, some will take only quarter, but mostly will 1hit KO.

Err do i make sense? sleepy in the office, no boss somemore.. whistling.gif
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post Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 20 2012, 03:53 PM)
Why all the numbers guys?
Get more AR and Armor. That'll do the job.

@2890
try inna pants with belt to get the dex bonus. and bt chest for the huge vit
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I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh..

C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback??
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post Dec 20 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 03:54 PM)
Yup. I was also intruiged by the RD issue and done a fair bit of reading at battlenet. By the way, RD from what I read is is claimed at 20% and it appears there are some math to back this claim. To to hit home the message I just put an example

A toon with 3% LS at whatever DPS with 90% mitigation.

1. 100k hit

RD @20% = 20k reflected
Real damage = 20k x 0.1 =2k hit.
LS =100k x3% x0.2 = 600
Therefore net life loss is 1400 (2k -600)

2. 200k hit

RD@ 20% =40k refected
Real damage =40k x0.1 = 4k hit
LS=200k x3% x 0.2 =1200
Therefore net life loss is 2800 (4k -1200)

3. 300k hit

RD@ 20% =60k refected
Real damage =60k x0.1 = 6k hit
LS=300k x3% x 0.2 =1800
Therefore net life loss is 4200 (6k -1800)

Conclusion = same ratio no scaling. You noticed that the RD of 200k and 300k  is exactly 2x of 100k and 3x.

2. A toon with 2000 LoH at whatever DPS with 90% mitigation. on the assumption of proc rate of 100%

1. 100k hit

RD @20% = 20k reflected
Real damage = 20k x 0.1 =2k hit.
LoH =2000
Therefore net life gain/loss =zero

2. 200k hit

RD@ 20% =40k refected
Real damage =40k x0.1 = 4k hit
LoH=2000
Therefore net life loss is 2000 (4k -2000)

3. 300k hit

RD @20% = 60k reflected
Real damage = 60k x 0.1 =6k hit.
LoH =2000
Therefore net life loss of 4k. (6k-2k)

Conclusion: No fixed ratio. a 300k hit = 2x of 200k hit whereas a 100k does not lose any life.
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i think the variable of 10%-20% is thanks to the bug introduced when they fixed the dodging RD problem. (eg: minion'd packs have higher RD damage even when reportedly hitting only 1 guy)

so yeah just have to wait till idiot blizz to fix their shit doh.gif
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post Dec 20 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:48 PM)
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p.s: Skorn that good meh???

p.s.s: But merging BT and Inna's pants is kinda bad i think. You get bonus from neither parts.
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Skorn hit hard. real hard with native 130%-200% CD somemore. +OS the CD shall go up to 300%. But in order to effectively use skorn, you need to stack lots of Att spd to make it worth.

Skorn

me use BT chest+boot, inna head+pant
there are ppl use BT chest+ammy, inna head+pant, nat ring+boot

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post Dec 20 2012, 03:57 PM

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alamak got parasite la inside monk thread.

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post Dec 20 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM)
I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh..

C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback??
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your way is going for dps monk. those choose BT are tanker monk.

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post Dec 20 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM)
I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh..

C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback??
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Inna pants + chest, with TWH and Mempo. Choose either BT or Inna chest. Balance is more important. The bonus dex from Inna is too good tho

This post has been edited by qicquser: Dec 20 2012, 04:01 PM
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 20 2012, 03:57 PM)
alamak got parasite la inside monk thread.
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woah there
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 20 2012, 03:57 PM)
alamak got parasite la inside monk thread.
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now only you know how can monk thread roll 4 generations? Of course it was parasite-ed.
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 20 2012, 03:57 PM)
alamak got parasite la inside monk thread.
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idiot...
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 04:02 PM)
now only you know how can monk thread roll 4 generations? Of course it was parasite-ed.
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tak pe la we're all here to help each other as fellow monks. even if there are parasites, if they are also monks, does it make a difference?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 20 2012, 04:07 PM)
tak pe la we're all here to help each other as fellow monks. even if there are parasites, if they are also monks, does it make a difference?
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you are not talking about me don't you tongue.gif I spam so much here so I take the 1st slot of being parasited
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 04:08 PM)
you are not talking about me don't you  tongue.gif  I spam so much here so I take the 1st slot of being parasited
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you have a monk, no? then not you lo lol.

and yea you are indeed #1 spammer wink.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 20 2012, 04:01 PM)
woah there
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 04:02 PM)
now only you know how can monk thread roll 4 generations? Of course it was parasite-ed.
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
from one thread to another and from one platform to another
just gotta bare with it i guess
will stock up on ridsect anda baygon when im active again

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post Dec 20 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM)
I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh..

C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback??
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@2890..I dont think I am wrong about the compuation of RD. Do correct me if I am wrong.

Anyways, back to your toon, I would drop the depths but you will lose a lot of AR on that. DPS wise, Inna Temperance is hard to beat. Since you hit jackpot, perhaps an Inna Temprance with AR? Kacinnnnnggg!!

Chest, some say tal rasha is great..but I have to agree with most to say Blackthorns are probably BiS for the high AR and dex/vit roll best bang for the buck. If you really want to chase DPS, then mempo has to have CC, otherwise an Inna Radiance with 6% CC + 14% FoT bonus will smash it to bits. Tip 14% FoT >9% ASI> 14% SW bonus.

Keep the TWH la...I would trade a kidney for the TWH (virtual one la of course) ..lulz

IMHO, best gears for a monk

Innas: S.Stone + Pants
Nats:- Standard ring+boots
Chest:- BT
Belt: TWH

Yellow ..yellow for the rest. BiS gloves/bracers are always rares so too are jewelries.


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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 20 2012, 04:09 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
from one thread to another and from one platform to another
just gotta bare with it i guess
will stock up on ridsect anda baygon when im active again

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make sure to spray on yourself to get the immunity rolleyes.gif

So, anymore skorn user does not 1hit himself vs RD?
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 04:11 PM)
@2890..I dont think I am wrong about the compuation of RD. Do correct me if I am wrong.

Anyways, back to your toon, I would drop the depths but you will lose a lot of AR on that. DPS wise, Inna Temperance is hard to beat. Since you hit jackpot, perhaps an Inna Temprance with AR? Kacinnnnnggg!!

Chest, some say tal rasha is great..but I have to agree with most to say Blackthorns are probably BiS for the high AR and dex/vit roll best bang for the buck. If you really want to chase DPS, then mempo has to have CC, otherwise an Inna Radiance with 6% CC + 14% FoT bonus will smash it to bits. Tip 14% FoT >9% ASI> 14% SW bonus.

Keep the TWH la...I would trade a kidney for the TWH (virtual one la of course) ..lulz

IMHO, best gears for a monk

Innas: S.Stone + Pants
Nats:- Standard ring+boots
Chest:- BT
Belt: TWH

Yellow ..yellow for the rest. BiS gloves/bracers are always rares so too are jewelries.
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Screw the RD math la. I headache also.

Inna Temperance with AR or VIT better??

My mempo has 3.5cc. So is it better to get a s.stone with FoT or just stick to the mempo? My friends are using a S.stone with SW on it.
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:22 PM

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If you don't take AR then you'll reduce your AR down to 4xx, with your 4k+ armor it is no good IMHO on higher MP levels.
MP1? screw it any rojak also can.

If I was you, I'll stick with the mempo.
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 04:18 PM)
Screw the RD math la. I headache also.

Inna Temperance with AR or VIT better??

My mempo has 3.5cc. So is it better to get a s.stone with FoT or just stick to the mempo? My friends are using a S.stone with SW on it.
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...depends on the other stats of your mempo; dex > 185, ias = 9 & life % = 12 then ok.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 20 2012, 04:25 PM

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