QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 03:50 PM)
resync'd my d3up, and damn i traded 40k ehp for 2k dps Monk Discussion V4, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
Monk Discussion V4, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
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Dec 20 2012, 03:54 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 03:49 PM) Usually 1 hit KO to myself But the weird thing is, not all RD elites/champions can kill me upon first hit. Some will take half my HP, some will take only quarter, but mostly will 1hit KO. Err do i make sense? sleepy in the office, no boss somemore.. |
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Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 20 2012, 03:53 PM) Why all the numbers guys? I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh.. Get more AR and Armor. That'll do the job. @2890 try inna pants with belt to get the dex bonus. and bt chest for the huge vit C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback?? |
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Dec 20 2012, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 03:54 PM) Yup. I was also intruiged by the RD issue and done a fair bit of reading at battlenet. By the way, RD from what I read is is claimed at 20% and it appears there are some math to back this claim. To to hit home the message I just put an example i think the variable of 10%-20% is thanks to the bug introduced when they fixed the dodging RD problem. (eg: minion'd packs have higher RD damage even when reportedly hitting only 1 guy)A toon with 3% LS at whatever DPS with 90% mitigation. 1. 100k hit RD @20% = 20k reflected Real damage = 20k x 0.1 =2k hit. LS =100k x3% x0.2 = 600 Therefore net life loss is 1400 (2k -600) 2. 200k hit RD@ 20% =40k refected Real damage =40k x0.1 = 4k hit LS=200k x3% x 0.2 =1200 Therefore net life loss is 2800 (4k -1200) 3. 300k hit RD@ 20% =60k refected Real damage =60k x0.1 = 6k hit LS=300k x3% x 0.2 =1800 Therefore net life loss is 4200 (6k -1800) Conclusion = same ratio no scaling. You noticed that the RD of 200k and 300k is exactly 2x of 100k and 3x. 2. A toon with 2000 LoH at whatever DPS with 90% mitigation. on the assumption of proc rate of 100% 1. 100k hit RD @20% = 20k reflected Real damage = 20k x 0.1 =2k hit. LoH =2000 Therefore net life gain/loss =zero 2. 200k hit RD@ 20% =40k refected Real damage =40k x0.1 = 4k hit LoH=2000 Therefore net life loss is 2000 (4k -2000) 3. 300k hit RD @20% = 60k reflected Real damage = 60k x 0.1 =6k hit. LoH =2000 Therefore net life loss of 4k. (6k-2k) Conclusion: No fixed ratio. a 300k hit = 2x of 200k hit whereas a 100k does not lose any life. so yeah just have to wait till idiot blizz to fix their shit |
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Dec 20 2012, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:48 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « p.s: Skorn that good meh??? p.s.s: But merging BT and Inna's pants is kinda bad i think. You get bonus from neither parts. Skorn me use BT chest+boot, inna head+pant there are ppl use BT chest+ammy, inna head+pant, nat ring+boot |
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Dec 20 2012, 03:57 PM
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alamak got parasite la inside monk thread.
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Dec 20 2012, 03:58 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM) I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh.. Inna pants + chest, with TWH and Mempo. Choose either BT or Inna chest. Balance is more important. The bonus dex from Inna is too good thoC'mon monk gurus, any more feedback?? This post has been edited by qicquser: Dec 20 2012, 04:01 PM |
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Dec 20 2012, 04:01 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:02 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:04 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:07 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:08 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:09 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 20 2012, 04:01 PM) QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 04:02 PM) from one thread to another and from one platform to another just gotta bare with it i guess will stock up on ridsect anda baygon when im active again |
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Dec 20 2012, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM) I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh.. @2890..I dont think I am wrong about the compuation of RD. Do correct me if I am wrong.C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback?? Anyways, back to your toon, I would drop the depths but you will lose a lot of AR on that. DPS wise, Inna Temperance is hard to beat. Since you hit jackpot, perhaps an Inna Temprance with AR? Kacinnnnnggg!! Chest, some say tal rasha is great..but I have to agree with most to say Blackthorns are probably BiS for the high AR and dex/vit roll best bang for the buck. If you really want to chase DPS, then mempo has to have CC, otherwise an Inna Radiance with 6% CC + 14% FoT bonus will smash it to bits. Tip 14% FoT >9% ASI> 14% SW bonus. Keep the TWH la...I would trade a kidney for the TWH (virtual one la of course) ..lulz IMHO, best gears for a monk Innas: S.Stone + Pants Nats:- Standard ring+boots Chest:- BT Belt: TWH Yellow ..yellow for the rest. BiS gloves/bracers are always rares so too are jewelries. |
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Dec 20 2012, 04:11 PM
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Dec 20 2012, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 04:11 PM) @2890..I dont think I am wrong about the compuation of RD. Do correct me if I am wrong. Screw the RD math la. I headache also.Anyways, back to your toon, I would drop the depths but you will lose a lot of AR on that. DPS wise, Inna Temperance is hard to beat. Since you hit jackpot, perhaps an Inna Temprance with AR? Kacinnnnnggg!! Chest, some say tal rasha is great..but I have to agree with most to say Blackthorns are probably BiS for the high AR and dex/vit roll best bang for the buck. If you really want to chase DPS, then mempo has to have CC, otherwise an Inna Radiance with 6% CC + 14% FoT bonus will smash it to bits. Tip 14% FoT >9% ASI> 14% SW bonus. Keep the TWH la...I would trade a kidney for the TWH (virtual one la of course) ..lulz IMHO, best gears for a monk Innas: S.Stone + Pants Nats:- Standard ring+boots Chest:- BT Belt: TWH Yellow ..yellow for the rest. BiS gloves/bracers are always rares so too are jewelries. Inna Temperance with AR or VIT better?? My mempo has 3.5cc. So is it better to get a s.stone with FoT or just stick to the mempo? My friends are using a S.stone with SW on it. |
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Dec 20 2012, 04:22 PM
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If you don't take AR then you'll reduce your AR down to 4xx, with your 4k+ armor it is no good IMHO on higher MP levels.
MP1? screw it any rojak also can. If I was you, I'll stick with the mempo. |
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Dec 20 2012, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 04:18 PM) Screw the RD math la. I headache also. ...depends on the other stats of your mempo; dex > 185, ias = 9 & life % = 12 then ok.Inna Temperance with AR or VIT better?? My mempo has 3.5cc. So is it better to get a s.stone with FoT or just stick to the mempo? My friends are using a S.stone with SW on it. This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 20 2012, 04:25 PM |
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