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post Dec 14 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Dec 14 2012, 05:44 PM)
well everyone is getting socketed weapons. So to get awesome damage u need to pump CHD into your weapons tongue.gif
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You need to get your armors strong enough to support dual sock shenlongs. Otherwise you wont get much out of sock weapons. I just reached my goal of 100k dps with shenlongs no sock. rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 19 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 11:03 PM)
well i'm wearing most of my DH gears so didn't need OWE.

I don't think 2.7LS is enough. Man, don't tell me i'm gonna be forced into using a LS EF. How do u guys deal with RD mobs?
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I never had any issues with RD mobs without LS. 2k Loh + 500 life regen is enough to deal with RD.
But sometimes there are like 5,6,7 (horde minions) of them with RD and I try to burst them down with FitL + MOC, I got some damage back. The rest of the time is alright.
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post Dec 20 2012, 12:11 PM

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@2890
Maybe try to time your skills correctly (Serenity, BoH, FitL, even MOC).
Yes MOC. If you cant tank them, dont use MOC + FitL to burst them down. You die faster.
Try to kite a little so you dont hit more than 3 or 4 at the same time. Having 2 mobs doing RD is better than a bunch. Beware on horde + RD mobs.

Hope that helps. Otherwise you need to start gearing up on armor, resists, life regen.

@Everyone
Does RD scales the same for all MP? Not sure about this but what I experience, the damage reflected is the same.

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post Dec 20 2012, 03:53 PM

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Why all the numbers guys?
Get more AR and Armor. That'll do the job.

@2890
try inna pants with belt to get the dex bonus. and bt chest for the huge vit
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM)
I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh..

C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback??
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Inna pants + chest, with TWH and Mempo. Choose either BT or Inna chest. Balance is more important. The bonus dex from Inna is too good tho

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post Dec 20 2012, 04:38 PM

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Seems like Inna Chest + Pants is the easiest way out but you need to have AR on them. It gonna cost you smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 04:39 PM)
no no no don't go OwE route. that is the bad choice to go OwE on your current setup.


Added on December 20, 2012, 4:39 pm


Added on December 20, 2012, 4:40 pm
inna pants: 50AR cost at least 30mil. I checked for this day by day so that I can motivate myself in getting one
inna chest: me dun dare to look at it
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Yeah. Those 2 piece you get huge dex huge vit/hp and AR will balance those out. Not to mention, both piece comes with max sockets.
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post Dec 20 2012, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 20 2012, 04:56 PM)
Can i be a tanker monk? =p kinda stuck with my current built.. Change my previous shenlong with +OS (-200% cd) with 5.9 LS and 1.8k loh =(
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Not sure if its the best choice. RA get CHD roll 90% above, since its cheaper than a socket and you need to get a gem for it. losing 4-5% CHD is not a big deal.

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post Dec 20 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 05:06 PM)
Wow super fast monk..smile.gif dunno what to say. If I am u, I will dump the tasker and theo..and get some CHD (as high as possible) +CC + Dex gloves. Can reduce some life...48k me thinks is overkill liao..40k cukup makan.

And why on earth you are using the worst passive ever..Pacifism?????? Lulz....
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High CHD also means high RD risk. Burst damage gonna hurt you back. I would go for high Atk spd + CC
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post Dec 20 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 20 2012, 05:15 PM)
die by RD in chainsaw manner is better than 1shotted huh?  tongue.gif


Added on December 20, 2012, 5:16 pm
don't worry, I also 3min.
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biggrin.gif the idea is to mitigate. If BOOM, drop dead. What to mitigate?
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post Dec 20 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 05:35 PM)
How on earth can you get 1 shotted when our monk on average have 90% mitigation?

RD? lets say 40k life...to be killed by 1 shot with 90% mitigation is to crit at 2 Million per hit? Show me a monk that crits for 2 Mil?

Ideally its about mitigation + life sustain...both hand in hand. If I deal burst damage via CHD but I am stacking LS...problem solved rite? Because more DPS means more life stolen so long you dont die from 1st hit.
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Lets say you got 5% LS and you deal a 500k dmg crit. You gain back 5k life but you sustain 100k damage from RD. Minus all those damage reduction, it's still pain in the ass. If you crit a pack of elites(3-4), its hard to mitigate those.
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post Dec 20 2012, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Dec 20 2012, 05:55 PM)
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+1 rclxms.gif

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post Dec 20 2012, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 08:11 PM)
Well...100k damage minus mitigation of 90% left 10k, minus 5k life you get net loss 5K.Assuming you drop CHD, and deal 250k damage, you get 2.5k life and you get 50k damage...after mitigation you are left with 2.5k net loss right? So its easier.....Your logic is correct until here...unfortunately you forgot about killing the E.

Say the E has 1M life, if I crit 500k , I hit 2x, so I kill faster and lose 10k life. Same as I crit 250k, I hit 4x and lose 10k life. Net result, no matter how much I crit, I lose 10k life to kill the E. Conclusion, doesnt matter how much I crit, I still need to kill the damn E with 1M life. RD will ultimately reflect 20% of 1M damage back so its a matter you want to do it fast or do it slow.

The answer is pretty obvious rite?
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You kill faster you lose HP faster. That ultimately leads back to mitigation. You still absorb X amount of damage but over a longer period of time. Hence, you get to pop serenity or BoH.
Choose to either burst them down and get tons of damage trying to stay alive. OR kill at a slower rate with higher chance or surviving. Unfortunately you did not survive the E if you can't mitigate the damage reflected smile.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 21 2012, 11:26 AM)
I think I found an effective way to counter magda uber.

EF (fear) + sickle (stun) + blinding flash + bell

Last night tried this, while moba and the team gets SK.
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Why is there a need to counter Maghda? rclxub.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 21 2012, 11:28 AM)
Magda banyak kacau dengan dia punya laser & bees. Not all members can withstand that.
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Oh. SK hulk smash lagi sakit man. Last time can blind to cancel it. Now cancel animation but the attack still goes thru. sad.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 21 2012, 11:34 AM)
me sadz when u mention SK...  cry.gif sad story...
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I can imagine you charging to SK once the cutscene is over. SK hulk smash + Maghda's lalat = KO whistling.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gen @ Dec 21 2012, 01:20 PM)
Hi to my pro monk frens

Can give some advise to me, on which high dps weapon should i buy?
becoz some of the weapon price is too expensive, not sure whether its worth with their buyout price.

http://www.mediafire.com/?d460i8n3i3634z3

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Knight's Void the best dps output
Cleave Legacy the best value
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post Dec 26 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 26 2012, 03:12 PM)
100k DPS...  sweat.gif (mandatory).. LOL

pretty much everything smile.gif

anyway, this is my attempt to farm MP7... not as fun as MP5... but still do-able but can no longer play with 1 hand, need to dance a little with the elites. 18 elites in 13 mins video.

With only 3% LS and ~550/5500 resist/armor in MP7, watch how the monk dance around Arcane Sentry, chase Molten, move around Desecrater, time the Ice Bomb and use terrain to advantage.


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Hit like me, skills like me, but not me lol. Yeah i pretty much farm like that too rclxms.gif
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:09 PM)
my monk really had a problem with reflect damage..hahaha..even with 5% LS and 180k dps..when fighting RD mob its like boooom dead..tried using Mantra of Evasion - hard target and the RD doesnt hurt that much anymore..but killing mob a bit slow..any solution?

this is my monk profile..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/fallenK...32/hero/4475730
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Do not burst down RD elites, then you'll be fine. You need patience on RD elites
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM)
if i play patiently it wont be a problem..i juz wanna build my monk till i can discard the serenity from the skill slot and use other skill such as exloding palm or sumthing
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build a monk that discard OWE first so u can have more freedom in passives...not good to have 2 passives locked down. STI + OWE.
if you wanna ditch serenity, maybe go for wave of light > blinding light. good stun skill.

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