from edi post

That is why Jesus said: “Take up your cross and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23)
I am saying I have more faith in Healing from God, that I agree with Brother's sharing but I am also saying it is dangerous to just solely believe in ousting the disease that science, which serves Creation, ought to cure and it cannot be applied LITERALLY to all cases (if that happens, the world would now be the New Heaven on Earth, but fact is, it is not. The world now that God created IS GOOD - Genesis, but not ULTIMATELY GOOD). Therefore exists extraordinary cases where terminal illnesses are healed which I dont deny, but Praise be to God, but also exists cases where we inch along with fervent prayers to help us live through suffering while continue to fight with the disease or control it - Our Suffering.

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God can bless medical science to heal / or to guide doctors to administer a person of illness.
God can also Heal directly if the person is able to believe.

Both also can.

Matthew 9:29 (KJV)
........ According to your faith be it unto you.

I always tell people to be comfortable at the level of Faith, God has given you.

If you have Faith in both medicine and Healing from God, so be it.
If you have more Faith in Healing from God, also so be it.
If you have more Faith in medicine than Healing from God, so be it.

Having more Faith in Healing from God does not mean, disbelieve in Medicine.

I always say this and I believe it's true. Different people have different level of Faith in their journey and walk with God.

If you believe diseases are greater than God, so be it but you dangerously put God in a limitation box by what you believe, thereby hindering yourself of God's blessings.

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Yes because some people have more faith in medical science and medical equipment to help them to recover, it doesn't mean God won't flow his healing in those 2 areas.

See, God will flow in areas your Faith has open up. If it's medical science for the person, it will flow in that area.

As Christians we can have the best of both world, medical science and God.

Don't think medical science is 100%. There are cases even when prescribe the right medicine, the body refuse to respond.

If medical science is 100%, doctors will not ask patient to sign a form of legal release when something goes wrong, especially when it comes to operations or surgery.

Most Hospital practise this,

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 16 2012, 01:18 AM

ya i agree what u saying it.

from my mind, i know the god give us a brain and he tell us use our brain to create and make a medicine to help human.

yes I agree with what you just said. I credit all such knowledge and talent, comes from Almighty God.

Goodnight.

nite

if you mean God healing others esp spiritually, yes. I believe somehow, I have this gift to delight others, many people told me so, the first time I realised it was 2011 in Spain, when my Spanish foster father told me, even though we could not understand each other well, he could see that I connect easily with people, partly due to my passion. and I told him, 'do u not know, more often than not, it hurts me, bec why people can be happy of what I said, what I did, even a smile, yet I could not find this happiness myself, from others but only consolation from God?'

He answered me ' My child, do not worry. It is a gift for you, and you should make people happy while let God works through you.'

He was not even a serious religious man, as he thinks religion is over-rated, he would stand at one side at every Mass in church. (I believe he has his pains, but I pray for him as he did not see his daughter nor his beloved for a few years and he lives alone)

and I cried the whole night in the bathtub thinking, 'Lord, if it is your will, let it be so'

since then, I no longer feel empty in myself, that even though I could not be easily as happy as others, I can make others happy.

Now, I live happier, bec I know, I should not seek happiness or to be understood, but to understand, to love first, as not to be loved. and I am still happy that I am such a gift to people, to make people happy, many call me their little angel (due to my baby face and cheerful nature).

That is why I like the song I shared previously on last page 'Make me a Channel of Your Peace'

Lately, I also am trying to help my friends who are eager to listen to me , even though long winded, they delight in it, that they should divert their attention and faith to God. Sometimes, I notice ppl get discouraged when they see me happy, that they tell me, 'Jeffrey, I think God loves you very very much' and I sense the resentment or some envy in them. That I say, ' God loves you very very much too '

It works, my advice does, so yeah, I think I have this gift, and I want to utilise this gift for the Lord

physically healing?? I am not St Francis of Assisi or those you read in Bible, have the power of healing. I dont believe it is my ministry. But I can make do, with a doctor, with help of medicine, His grace for me to be astute in diagnosing diseases

But God physically healed me I experienced too, most vividly this
(from a very serious one as well, after the trip to Europe, very same 2011 - I had been coughing bubblish water from my lungs and I think its pleural effusion after I swam in the sea in Marseille, to be hospitalised would mean 1 month in bed and I relied on Prayer alone while my church friend tended to me as I stayed over at his place, I could only prayer for recovery through prayer and antibiotics and nothing else, coughing profusely day and night and recovered though, something medically is impossible as pleural effusion would need aspiration of fluids from the lungs or slowly but would mean respiratory failure. What was I thinking? that the europe trip is a pilgrimage, and if God willed me to experience a youthful heaven on earth meeting 'World Youth Day', He would lead me out of this illness and prepare me for the new semester),

as my mum did - medically untreatable slipped disc but only physiotherapy, one morning while sleeping upon waking up she saw Jesus came to her, touched her spine and it was healed, she no longer needs physiotherapy and can walk freely, cant carry heavy but it was really healed (which led her to believe - shes a convert), while I am raised through my dad's family faith roots. Gosh, my dad waited 15 years for that with Faith, you can move a mountain is true and I was sleeping beside her - i was still small and I am afraid of darkness so I was with my parents in the same room, and I said, where is Jesus? I wanna meet him!!! Ah, that moment Mum told me Jesus was just beside me, exactly sitting beside me while healing my mum...I was sleeping soundly

This post has been edited by Jedi: Dec 16 2012, 03:03 AM

and with the corrupt nature of human mind, ppl tend to think science can overstep and explain God, even rule out God's existence.

This is mans biggest error. Our finite mind cannot explain, let alone dispute about something infinite.

Because of this, the devil - greatest liar of all, try to impart doubts into human minds and tempt us to rebel against God, bec they are jealous when we, want to know more about God and be with God, walk with God.

Therefore also, we must 'take up our Cross'. Even better, we have Holy Spirit, Jesus helping us. When Christ was carrying, He was atoning for all of us humans. So if we can delve into His Passion, we would also become more and more faithful to Him. It is sometimes what I do, to meditate upon the Passion of Christ, even though we Christians rejoice in Resurrection and His victory

I've heard alot of testimony through churches and friends about miracle healing happens on those who're having chronic disease, and I believed it. I believe miracle do happens and not just on health issues.

I do agree with both Jedi and brother unknown warrior state. From my perspective, God is always there for us, and if there's additional options for me, I'll try both but prayer is always the first priority.

Here are 2 videos showing the image of Virgin Mary in Malaysia.

1st video shows the sighting at Sime Darby Medical Centre, Subang Jaya.
After that the window panels were taken down and moved to Klang.
http://youtu.be/_kTuth59O6Y




2nd video shows closer view of the image at Church of Our Lady of Lourdes in Klang.
This video has image in close-up and more detailed view.
http://youtu.be/_8aDR0nznAQ




Please feel free to share

This post has been edited by faizalfaizal: Dec 16 2012, 10:56 PM

god do not need to show infront of our eye sight of god images to makes miracle happen.

is human mistake no believe a god after have such technology can help alot people invent by people not god
since make people not believe god.

god appear on or dream
do u believe?

not human mistake but ignorant. Humans often forget this. Hence the Tower of Babel story. well, History always repeats itself..

possible, not just on dream, even to you - private revelation. Do you believe? Doctors wont. They call it - hallucination. We call it - mystical vision

yes, but not from images taken from windows panel with camera of others.

sry for did not quote my reply more specific, coz replying using phone when i was outside..


is actually quoting for this below

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Added on December 17, 2012, 12:21 am
I can't read in Chinese either, anyhow I will translate from Google with the result below.

I got this share from Pastor Enoch Lam, I found it very useful and would likes to share with u all and a good night too..

This post has been edited by skydrake: Dec 17 2012, 12:21 AM

Christmas Message



Christmas is coming. You can already see the Festive season and Holiday decoration adorning with all the blings on Christmas Trees in Shopping Malls and Street decoration. The jolly fat guy and his reindeer is what you would expect in a que line where children, line up in expectation of Christmas gifts or photo sessions.

People dressing up as Santa's Elves, advertising company's product, shouting Merry Christmas. It's a time for joyful season and merry making, visiting friends, gathering and dinners.

It's that special time of the season. Where kids would watch TV cartoons and Christmas shows. Christmas carolling. People are shopping, taking holidays in relaxation.

The hair of my arm stands thinking about this joyous occasion. Everything seems perfect and nothing could go wrong.

All except for one thing. Is Christmas really all about that?

2000 years ago.

Near the town of Bethlehem, in a grassy field, some shepherds are tending their sheep in the night watch, everything was peaceful and calm, when suddenly, an angel of God appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified.

But the Angel said.

"Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David, a Saviour has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger"

That's right, this good news is for everyone. Not just for the elites people of this world. Everyone. Especially the downcast. the outcast, the prostitutes, the lepers, the tax collectors, the lonely, the ones where people would not look twice in their direction. Sinners. Jesus has come to save you.

You know, one would expect a royal celebration on Earth, with great fireworks, grand announcement with VIP delegates and nationwide broadcast coverage that befits a King.

But our King was born in a smelly manger where there are farm animals. If you been to farm, you would understand, and the fact, a farm 2000 years ago when technology was non existence. Where the Devil would least expect to happen.

Jesus Christ left his majestic Kingdom of Glory, born into a poor family of Joseph and Mary. To identify himself to the people who needs hope.

The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.

This is not spiritual richness but both spiritual and life prosperity. Health and Wealth. Indeed, Jesus Came to give us an abundant life.

The saviour of Mankind has come in meekness and humbleness. Jesus came to restore us back to the original intention of God, back in the garden of Eden.

Where we were created in God's own image and was blessed with the command to prosper and ordained to rule creation. This would include To remove the Sin stain upon us. To restore us back to the one true God who loves us passionately.

And Satan has avert and hijack, replacing the true message of Christmas so that people would not know the birth of Jesus Christ. Where instead of Jesus, Santa Clause or Father Christmas has been replace. And sadly it's true, in every Christmas decoration in our streets and shopping, the scene of Nativity is missing.

Christmas has lost it's true message in this world. Where it's suppose to be a yearly reminder that there is hope for all Mankind. All because of the birth of the baby Boy Jesus Christ. The Saviour and Messiah of Man and Woman.

I pray dear friends, that you'll take up the courage to spread the true message of Christmas. To face the world and revert back to the gospel of Christ. Do not feel ashamed even if ridiculed or mocked. The glory of Christ will rest on you.

Let us arise in spirit and sing this joyous occasion with the intention of letting the world know that Jesus has come and has risen. Amen?

God Bless.

I remember once during Christmas mass, we sang Happy Birthday to Jesus led by the priest. Instead of the normal We wish you a merry christmas. I think that's proper considering we're celebrating his birth into our world after all.

I know this is kinda random but anyone of you have watched Life of Pi? If you have, care to give your two cents on it? If you haven't, well, go watch it. Now.