i mean jesus assistant throw satan in deep of hell not satan throw jesus
some demon use a fake light and fake advise to guide everyone too. ( read on novel and film)



the part i bold i understand, we human need to believe god and pray them and should not reject own god.

Yes you understand this.

Ermmm, I think I need to explain a bit more detail about your question.

It's not that God does not want to help people like Emily. He wants to, But God has set laws and boundaries that even demons and man must abide to otherwise there will be chaos and no order in this universe.

Something like the law of traffic light, if there is no traffic light for the convenient of some, there will be massive traffic jam and chaos for others. So this type of rule and law must be in place for proper order.

And it is our Job to know our legal spiritual rights as sons and daughters of God, so that we do not fall to the trap of the devil.

Demon possession is a complicated case. People do not get possessed over night. It happens when something has taken root for a long time.

I believe the possible root cause is guilt and condemnation.

And Jesus has come to set us free from ALL condemnation so that NO enemy can ever claim to have rights over those who believe.

Do not be afraid of demons and focus on the negative. Know that God is greater than all. Those who have Christ in their life has already overcome the world and the devil.

And to have Christ is just a few steps away by praying a simple prayer.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 05:08 PM

Bro disregard my following sentence bro

Say that you have parents who have hypertension or heart diseases, supposedly when you age around 50-60 yr old generally you have AHT or HEart Diseases as it is of our diet, and our genetic flaws.

Pray to God alone would not solve your problem or make the fat go away.

Ignorance of one's health is not bliss dear bro. I am not saying contradicting things from the Bible, but taking care of your health is more than just praying, but also to observe diet.

So would you tell the doctor: Doc I am not going to do Coronary stenting. I believe by praying to God alone my arteries will be unblocked.

Instead, you pray to God that operation would go successfully and you can lead a better life to serve His will.

while NOTHING is greater than GOD, that I agree, there are some part, that we have to make. God plan the rest, we do our best. Even though this is not biblical but we always agree that 'Thy Will Be Done'

In this case, your life depends on God. But you make your best to care for it too.

This has nothing to do with my faith or spirituality. I am saying this as a concerning Doctor that would, for a patient.

This post has been edited by Jedi: Dec 15 2012, 05:30 PM

Really depends on, your patients.

I'm not asking you when you become a doctor, to advise non believers as such.

It is only true for those who believe in Christ Jesus.

And you should have discernment of heart. Even though your patient may be a believer, ironically that person may not believe all the way as to what God can do.

That is why I said previously,




I actually intend to preach one devotion about this to make you understand better.

Why those who are born again is no longer subject to the law and effect of Natural ageing.

And I need to correct this.

For people who believe in Christ,

Praying to God, can receive complete Healing from whatever symptoms the person is going through.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 05:48 PM

din know this group exist! HI GUYS!

Ah you took it in the context of morality.

I take it in the context of superceeding the law of natural science.

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Added on December 15, 2012, 5:52 pmBTW wasn't talking about observing diets and taking care of Health.

That I leave it up to each individual.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 05:52 PM

6th Edition already.

Welcome.

And do you know what is God's will when it comes a person's Health?



Edit: see u guise later at night.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 06:02 PM

This is what I believe: Diseases and illness are consequences of our sin, besides spiritual death. We men are corrupt by that very 'nature' you mentioned. And Yes, we are no longer subject o the law and effects of it, but nature takes its course too.

Take away all sin and selfishness and you would have heaven on earth. Even the remaining physical evils would no longer rankle and embitter us. I agree with Bro too

Saints endure and even embrace suffering and death as lovers embrace heroic challenges. But they do not embrace sin. They include us, Saints on earth, which I agree with Bro too.

Law and effect?
Furthermore, the cause of physical evil is spiritual evil. The cause of suffering is sin.

The Cross is God's part of the practical solution to evil. Our part, according to the same Gospel, is to repent, to believe, and to work with God in fighting evil by the power of love.
That is why Jesus said: “Take up your cross and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23)



I am saying I have more faith in Healing from God, that I agree with Brother's sharing but I am also saying it is dangerous to just solely believe in ousting the disease that science, which serves Creation, ought to cure and it cannot be applied LITERALLY to all cases (if that happens, the world would now be the New Heaven on Earth, but fact is, it is not. The world now that God created IS GOOD - Genesis, but not ULTIMATELY GOOD). Therefore exists extraordinary cases where terminal illnesses are healed which I dont deny, but Praise be to God, but also exists cases where we inch along with fervent prayers to help us live through suffering while continue to fight with the disease or control it - Our Suffering.

Suffering can work for the greater good of wisdom. It is not true that all things are good, but it is true that "all things work together for good to those who love God.

He may not yet wipe tears away, but He makes them His.

It is Christ's invitation to us to follow him.
Christ goes to the cross, and we are invited to follow to the same cross.
Not because it is the cross, but because it is his.
Suffering is blessed not because it is suffering but because it is his.
Suffering is not the context that explains the cross; the cross is the context that explains suffering.

The key to the mystery of strength made perfect in weakness is the cross of Christ.

“My son, do not forget my teaching, but keep my commands in your heart, for they will prolong your life many years and bring you prosperity . . . This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones”
(Proverbs 3:1-2, 8)

“I pray that you may enjoy good health and that all may go well with you, even as your soul is getting along well” (3 John 1:2)

Obviously, God is more interested in our spiritual health than our physical well-being, but He does want us to be physically healthy as well. On the other hand, disease is a result of Adam’s sin, and even the most righteous may suffer. After all, Job was righteous, but God allowed him to suffer disease and hardship.



Therefore as a Dr in the future, Besides prescribing treatment, I would take to it personally to care for my patients and bring joy to them, as well as prayers with their intentions on my mind.


and I look forward to your devotion when you have time.

welcome aboard! good day to u

hello people!

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This could be prophetic.

You will learn as you grow in the Lord, that when you have Faith that God is able to heal all diseases, you can attempt to apply in any cases, in your line of work towards believers. Let God heal them through your words and your hands.

I don't know if it's my personal thought or the Holy Spirit telling me but I think you presume I'm trying to discredit medical science. Hence your worry and your postings above.

I think you should know, during Jesus time, sinners who touched Jesus or his garment was healed. Something for you to ponder.

One question I'm kinda curious, have you experience any miracle in your life that defy rationale explanation?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 16 2012, 12:32 AM

Hello brother.

Finally I see that you understand what I wanted to say. God heals, we help.

And yeah, I worry due to my presumption because your sharing was too awesome not to bear medical science into it (first-time readers and non believers would be shell-shocked)

as for me? everyday Defy rational Explanation? BOUNDLESS!!! I would say non believers who read would think I am crazy. Believers would be skeptical or in awe or jealous *I would encourage my bros n sis when I share miracles happened in my life or sometimes, private revelation so they are not discouraged* I record them to my diary

sleep early tmrw u going church early morning

nah, couldn't care less about the shock part because if they are, good. It's about time they should ask, how can it be?

Actually what I meant was God heals others through you as a channel at times without medical science involve.

Your word of prayer and your hands to flow God's blessing.

Something you might find uneasy to believe at this moment.

so far never miss Church yet by God's grace.

god cannot heal us only we heal our sick by medical science
we need pray for god for our healthy body life and we need medicine to prevent sick

"is it" ?

Both also can.