I think its dangerous when one is ill (and with medical valid reasons i.e namely Genetically determined diseases, Infectious Diseases, Heart Diseases, DM), one could think it can go away by praying to God as this sharing said. It ONLY applies to extraordinarily cases where medical interventions or explanations could not deal with the specific disease, or above all sorts, causes deterioration of health where no medicine can do, then God's intervention through fervent prayer hope faith can heal.

Because many things science can explain (namely how your blood vessels are clot with fats and cholesterol for example), and as far as science goes, it complements religion, does not overstep religion. Through illnesses sometimes we can see God's grace work through (weakness made perfect in God's strength) and one definitely has to take medicine for if not it will progress further worsens.

I myself gonna be graduate to be a doc in 1.5 years, and while I am a Christian, I would treat the patient as well as pray for them, but certainly prayer alone does not do when medically, can be sought out (ancient shaman healing?).

As for cases of Infectious Diseases, by assuming you recover (and of course, with prayers) due to Convalescence Period actually is not right. One still has to finish his antibiotic course or else microbes do not get killed entirely and you can be unknowingly a transient/healthy/immunised/convalescent carrier which spread diseases to immunosuppressed people (HIV, Pregnancy, DM, elderly and children amongst). Many microbes which causes latent infection on us (without clinical symptoms that is) might not do the same to others.

We have a body, and Christ bought it over, and we too, have a responsibility to take good care of our bodies. my 2 cents

This post has been edited by Jedi: Dec 15 2012, 12:42 AM

yes i got what u mean Jedi, it does not means that we can just pray and ask god to heal us only then we do nothing after it. we must do our part and god do his part. example for my part, even that before i finish my "antibiotic pills" i had fully healed.. still i have to finish it. Its a nice share from Jedi.

no prob bro
I am happy for you and for your wedding. May you and your soon-to-be wed live happily, united in Christ, with God in the bedroom and family

i m happy to have u all too!!

btw sry to pull down some sad story in cnn that just happened within 48hours, wana ask u all.. how do u all feel after seeing this below.


This post has been edited by skydrake: Dec 15 2012, 07:53 AM

hows the cinema in Setiawalk? comfortable?

remember to bring jacket + long pants before go in, new cinema very comfort but extremely cooooool~

Matthew 9:29 (KJV)
........ According to your faith be it unto you.

I always tell people to be comfortable at the level of Faith, God has given you.

If you have Faith in both medicine and Healing from God, so be it.
If you have more Faith in Healing from God, also so be it.
If you have more Faith in medicine than Healing from God, so be it.

Having more Faith in Healing from God does not mean, disbelieve in Medicine.

I always say this and I believe it's true. Different people have different level of Faith in their journey and walk with God.

If you believe diseases are greater than God, so be it but you dangerously put God in a limitation box by what you believe, thereby hindering yourself of God's blessings.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 11:56 AM

Devil working overtime.

Devil pushing year end sales quota. especially with the 21st December 2012 mayan calender.

Usually happens when there's a breakthrough somewhere else.

when there's some area he cannot disturb anymore, he will disturb somewhere else.

Always see with your eyes of Faith. In the midst of death and destruction in areas where the devil attack, it means that God is doing something in that area as well.

The devil always wants to bring disbelieve and doubt to the area God wants to bring blessings and restoration.

As for the Mayan Calender, even this deception and lie, God can use to draw people to him, who are searching for the truth.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 12:04 PM

I have explained my part, dear bro. I believe we complement each other for what we believe, not contradict.

To put it in proper:

CCC - YOUCAT by Pope Benedict XVI

Mayan is another god among god
i play games i know it little. it a long ago the people mayan praygod it, but i dunno bout how the look like. most that time all are predict and research on natural environment

You are still learning. I can see you want to agree. But yet you still have parts of doubt through these statements.



Nothing wrong IMO as everyone has different stages of growing spiritually.

Truth to be known, no disease, NOTHING is greater than God. Not even the devil. (1 John 4:4)

Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Ephesians 1:22
And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,

Hebrews 2:8
and put everything under his feet." In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him.

Do you know why in Hebrews 2:8, it says there, yet we do not see everything subject to him?

That's because there are areas in our lives we doubt God. As in your case you doubt that God is able to cure even terminal illness.

There's no need to hide this. It's nothing to new.

I'm here to let you know, the pope is wrong in this sense.

The Christian faith demands and promotes above natural sciences.

We have been given authority to do so.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 04:13 PM

my question here may offend u all, maybe not i dunno

i saw alot horror movie about exorcist ghost or emily exorcist, 666 demon, and many

is it all really exist before? emily story i read article and it say that girl was possessed by many demon. why the gof not helping her and let her suffer till she died

I believe all the gods of this world are none other the ones created by our enemy in concept of driving away people from knowing to one and true living God that we serve.

mayan religion are similiar like egyptian control by a prophet
and most prophet already know how the sun will affect our earth because they have research it. actually it not a end of world just another circle coming back and make it happen again. it nothing related with god maybe. only the prophet say it and people believe

this my answer

No don't worry about offending me, I will know when a question is genuine, when it's a troll question.

Yes, demons exist. They'e nothing more than fallen angels.

The reason why some people do not get delivered is because of the areas they don't know as truth.

We are bound by the words we professed.

Proverbs 18:21 says
The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.

And it is very true.

Most of the time, conventional priest will says it's because of sin. Which IMO is partly true but IF they never preach that God has totally forgiven the person's sin and it is up to the person to believe in it, the person in question will be in trouble.

If the person cannot come to believe that he or she has been totally forgiven, it gives the enemy legal rights to stay on in the body.
(This is for possessed case).

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 04:22 PM

eh unable to understand it

fallen angels is satan right? a god who harm jesus and throw in the deep of hell
demon is animal human form

last sentence "sin"
emily is a good girl and why she must suffer this all during young time. she possessed by demon from hell.

huh? Since when Satan harm and threw Jesus in deep of hell?

Well yes, Satan is a fallen angel but he sure didn't harm Jesus neither did he threw Him in Hell. (but the opposite,)

No demons are not in animal forms, they can manifest as animal form but their true origin are the form of fallen angels.

Fallen angels lost the glory of God (Light) and thus exhibit the opposite form of (instead of Light) but Darkness.

In the Bible, God says everyone has sin.

Romans 3:23 (NLT)
For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God's glorious standard.

Good or Bad is irrelevant. Even the most seemingly harmless Child when fallen short of God's glorious standard allows the Enemy to interfere.

This can explained in detailed about inherited sin.

Those who does not have the spirit of God in their lives, are spiritually dead. This type give the enemy opportunity to attack.

But there are defences we can employ, such as prayer to cover the life of our love ones who have yet to believe in God.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 15 2012, 04:40 PM