IMHO, laptops will be prone to breakdown after many years of use. I agree that usage and care is a large factor here, especially when you are using this for gaming. But being a mass produced unit, there might be instances that units will fail even when new. I'm going to receive my very first Clevo by the next two weeks and let's see how durable it is.

Hi Recorder,

Thank you for your words. We are more than happy to help.

RS-15, RS-15 Lite and RE-15 dimensions are all about the same.

RS-15 and RS-15 Lite only have one SATA bay, it sacrifices secondary SATA bay for dual fan cooling system. (The P157SM has dual fans and dual SATA bays but it's thicker).

The good thing about RS-15 and RS-15 Lite is that you can always add a caddy case (RSP RM49, upgrade price RM19) to convert your DVD rom to a secondary hard drive/solid state drive.

By converting DVD rom to an empty caddy bay, you can reduce the system weight (DVD rom is heavy) and get extra SATA slot. The drawback is system SATA connector cannot make RAID with the caddy SATA connector.

This post has been edited by Prince J: Oct 17 2013, 02:05 PM

hi bro can u reply pm please i need help installing graphic cards in alienware

soundsyst64's Sager NP8150 turned 3 this year.

EDIT : and it is still running perfect.

This post has been edited by raymondtong94: Oct 17 2013, 09:46 PM

That is a good sign. This was the reason why I chose Clevo aside from the known name brands.

actually it really depends on luck. my 1st Acer laptop by my dad runs great even after 2 years, which is the starting point of malfunctioning stage. after i got lots of money from doing a part time work, i spent a total of RM6k for an AW M15x (bought in early 2011). after 1 year, i need to sell it as i had difficulties in my financial status in the past. last 3 months, i kept track on the condition of the M15x. the owner said that it was still running perfect.

to conclude, luck plays major role in IT products.

My Asus 1000H ran without problems for 5 years and still counting.
Base on that track record I recommended Asus to other people. 1 or 2 of em had problems in the 1st year.

Conclusion? Longevity is very hard to predict in IT world

raymondtong94
I bought Sager NP8150 (Clevo P150HM) on 1 April 2011 and the system works perfectly after "abuse" it continuously for 2 years ++. Will entering 3rd year on 1st April 2014.

I definitely agree. My first laptop was a Compaq CQ40 with an AMD processor. It was a very hot processor and even if I have undervolted it, fair usage was going around 72-80C, even gone up to 90C! It lasted about two years plus. I had the chipset reflowed and it gave another three more months before it started acting weird again. After that I made sure to search for the ODM of any laptop (If I can). That would tell me if the laptop is probably going to last longer and be more durable. Acer and Compaq share the same ODM for some of its units as well as other brands so I just avoid them if I can.

The only known brands that I know that manufacture their own boards to this day are Clevo and MSI. Asus once manufactures its own boards but their manufacturing became a separate company known as Pegatron. So my choice of brands would be Asus, MSI, and Clevo.

I worked with my wife's office laptop, a Lenovo Thinkpad and aside from the broken LCD it is still running after six years. My former office a laptop, an HP DV4?? was still running even after eight years.

I expect to get a good life out this Clevo. BTW, I'm getting the RE-15.

I think that is expected for a netbook. I have two Asus 1005PXDs and they are both three years and six months old and counting. They don't produce that much heat compared to their laptop siblings.

Nice!

Is this real?
I wish I can know more about this. Do you have any source for this?

This has been common knowledge for sometime now. It's called the "Dirty little secret of the Laptop Industry" which is no more a secret. Here are some of the links I've researched before:
http://ctacs.weebly.com/1/post/2012/06/wil...n-or-clevo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lapto...rers_.28ODMs.29
http://www.xoticpc.com/who-really-makes-la...ecret-a-47.html

This post has been edited by Josh0027: Oct 18 2013, 06:32 PM

Thanks! You helped me a lot!

any chance of any illegear laptop will be equip with the new gtx 780ti gpu?? so i can start saving money right now

GTX780TI is for Desktop la

Its for desktop bro

GTX780TI? Wow, that will be an amazing world record lol~

This post has been edited by ZRong223: Oct 19 2013, 01:27 PM

This post has been edited by Prince J: Oct 19 2013, 07:25 PM

At last it's now official. Maybe I should have also added the msata upgrade in my order as well.