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post Jun 13 2013, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jun 12 2013, 10:55 PM)
Beside this project, any same class project within city centre 10km, walking distance to MRT/LRT, <700psf can recommend?
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I think they compare this with you city.... Fair meh? Haha.... tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 02:37 AM

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I am truly agree on that. Potential is there.. Price should be 700-900psf range. Since this is relatively high density, i hope the maintenance will be less steep.. Prepare to load two units...do u guys whey the launching date?
QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 12 2013, 09:15 PM)
Boss,
so confident with ytl...smile.gif imho, i agree with u that this will be HOT!

ppl like the iconic senget building design and the fact that sentul east is close proximity KLCC.
further coupled with:
existing
-KTM and 2 Star stations (walking distance some more)
-surrounding subsale price >650psf

future
-KVMRT
-link bridges from condos to stations
-supermarket
-HSR (speculative)

It will be sure interesting to see how the market will react.
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(leongyitseng @ Jun 13 2013, 02:37 AM)
I am truly agree on that. Potential is there.. Price should be 700-900psf range. Since this is relatively high density, i hope the maintenance will be less steep.. Prepare to load two units...do u guys whey the launching date?
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Doesnt mean that 900+ units is high density, it's depend on how big is the land area
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jun 13 2013, 09:40 AM)
Doesnt mean that 900+ units is high density, it's depend on how big is the land area
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Strongly believe their price will be 800psf. tongue.gif

Mah Sing new project at Taman Wahyu is asking 700psf.
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jun 13 2013, 12:01 AM)
If you know the short cut, you don't hv to make u turn. More, everywhere is jam. Tell me which place in kl no jam? tongue.gif
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Brianccg,

No offend. Dont get angry when i say in front sentul pasar is jam smile.gif Where in KL no jam is very general question. Even if u r angry, the jam is still there.

However if we take for example from Sentul go to KL Sentral as a discussion...

From Sentul east, can go straight to Sentul link then mahameru hway.... 10mins can reached
From Sentul west, come from jlan ipoh, cut to jlan tun razak and then to mahemeru... slight jam as many traffic lights.... 17min.. additional 7min
From Sentul pasar, go through boulevard, then sentul link then mahameru, 25min due to jam at sentul pasar and traffic light in from of capers additonal 15mins.

Sentul east, sentul west and 1sentul are all sentul but it takes different timing... it depends on individual lah...

Again 1sentul is more affordable psf compared to west and east... esp the BU is big.. suit family kan?

Can share more info on 1sentul as long time never follow up.

- resident profile?
- rental rate?
- maintenance fees


for rental play, what size n facing u recommend?
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jun 13 2013, 10:03 AM)
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Strongly believe their price will be 800psf. tongue.gif

Mah Sing new project at Taman Wahyu is asking 700psf.
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Leasehold, 700psf? Maybe partial furnished smile.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jun 12 2013, 09:08 PM)
Sorry for brothers & sisters here, anything > RM 700 psf, I will walk away.

Good news for u all. Haha.
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taikor walkaway then less competition to buy for us smile.gif
ANy reason 700psf is the cut-off point? I know its high but looking at the surroiunding ytl subsale, 700psf seems like the only possible figure to be launched. if launched at 650psf.. i mati2 buy many many units.
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 13 2013, 10:08 AM)
Brianccg,

No offend. Dont get angry when i say in front sentul pasar is jam smile.gif Where in KL no jam is very general question. Even if u r angry, the jam is still there.

However if we take for example from Sentul go to KL Sentral as a discussion...

From Sentul east, can go straight to Sentul link then mahameru hway.... 10mins can reached
From Sentul west, come from jlan ipoh, cut to jlan tun razak and then to mahemeru... slight jam as many traffic lights.... 17min.. additional 7min
From Sentul pasar, go through boulevard, then sentul link then mahameru,  25min due to jam at sentul pasar and traffic light in from of capers additonal 15mins.

Sentul east, sentul west and 1sentul are all sentul but it takes different timing... it depends on individual lah...

Again 1sentul is more affordable psf compared to west and east... esp the BU is big.. suit family kan?

Can share more info on 1sentul as long time never follow up.

- resident profile?
- rental rate?
- maintenance fees
for rental play, what size n facing u recommend?
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Dont worry, bro.. just a discussion. Indeed, I totally agreed the road infront of Sentul Pasar is jam and there is a plan for YTL to re-locate the pasar but all pending for DBKL approval. Tht's why the land opposite the sentul pasar seems no movement at all.

But, like I said...if you know the short cut, you dont hv to go through infront of Sentul Pasar...but wondering how you calculated the time spent?
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jun 13 2013, 10:09 AM)
Leasehold, 700psf? Maybe partial furnished smile.gif
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Yes, partial finish with cabinet. But for me still a big jump in view of the area. Is the developer too greedy?
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jun 13 2013, 10:16 AM)
Dont worry, bro.. just a discussion.  Indeed, I totally agreed the road  infront of Sentul Pasar is jam and there is a plan for YTL to re-locate the pasar but all pending for DBKL approval. Tht's why the land opposite the sentul pasar seems no movement at all.

But, like I said...if you know the short cut, you dont hv to go through infront of Sentul Pasar...but wondering how you calculated the time spent?
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No calculation, I tested it all bro:)
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QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 13 2013, 10:31 AM)
No calculation, I tested it all bro:)
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Hm... mine is slight diff from yours... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jun 13 2013, 10:35 AM)
Hm... mine is slight diff from yours... tongue.gif
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Update update pls.. sharing is caring.
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post Jun 13 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 13 2013, 10:08 AM)
Brianccg,

No offend. Dont get angry when i say in front sentul pasar is jam smile.gif Where in KL no jam is very general question. Even if u r angry, the jam is still there.

However if we take for example from Sentul go to KL Sentral as a discussion...

From Sentul east, can go straight to Sentul link then mahameru hway.... 10mins can reached
From Sentul west, come from jlan ipoh, cut to jlan tun razak and then to mahemeru... slight jam as many traffic lights.... 17min.. additional 7min
From Sentul pasar, go through boulevard, then sentul link then mahameru,  25min due to jam at sentul pasar and traffic light in from of capers additonal 15mins.

Sentul east, sentul west and 1sentul are all sentul but it takes different timing... it depends on individual lah...

Again 1sentul is more affordable psf compared to west and east... esp the BU is big.. suit family kan?

Can share more info on 1sentul as long time never follow up.

- resident profile?
- rental rate?
- maintenance fees
for rental play, what size n facing u recommend?
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QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 13 2013, 10:11 AM)
taikor walkaway then less competition to buy for us smile.gif
ANy reason 700psf is the cut-off point? I know its high but looking at the surroiunding ytl subsale, 700psf seems like the only possible figure to be launched. if launched at 650psf.. i mati2 buy many many units.
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U have the answer already, Sentul location is good, hence good highrise place.

But it is never an atas place, spending power there is not high. So many years already, yet u can't find good mix development like Tropicana Gardens @ Kota Damansara.

Don't only compare the condo product, compare the surrounding communities too, & u will know Sentul is far from good.

If the build up is like The Saffron from 1100 sqft, asking RM 650 psf price > RM 700k, the capital appreciation upon VP is capped. Hard to flip for > RM 800k, rental yield also quite low.

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jun 13 2013, 11:04 AM)
U have the answer already, Sentul location is good, hence good highrise place.

But it is never an atas place, spending power there is not high. So many years already, yet u can't find good mix development like Tropicana Gardens @ Kota Damansara.

Don't only compare the condo product, compare the surrounding communities too, & u will know Sentul is far from good.

If the build up is like The Saffron from 1100 sqft, asking RM 650 psf price > RM 700k, the capital appreciation upon VP is capped. Hard to flip for > RM 800k, rental yield also quite low.
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Sentul is still sentul... maybe in ones wet dream only it can be like mont kiara.
even with D6&7 injected with herman miller n the high ends, with KLPAC around the corner.. the proximity to mont kiara high end F&B (eg: publika, solaris) makes not much of motivation for consumer (even those sentul residents) to fine dine in sentul...

Until everything is transformed per ytl master plan only it will be different league.

COrrect, saffron is completed and VP few years back.. smile.gif no more VP la...the next VP is The Capers.

Don't only compare the condo product, compare the surrounding communities too, & u will know Sentul is far from good.
> This is accurate statement. Current focus can only zoom into ytl products (aka sentul east and sentul west)..
Basically there is no GnG around here and not sure if there is a plan...


Unlike Mont Kiara and Kampung Segambut- sort of clear line....
For sentul... sentul east and west are in sentul itself.... no clear line..

brought some singaporean friends to sentul from sentul link towards D6&7 before.. u will see them saying "WOW" and impressed.. after making a u-turn at the Boulevard area... they will see cows if u r lucky.. and they begin to get less impressed...
(Maybe xyyap taikor can share the sentiment as u have worked there for some time smile.gif )

Hence, there always a saying "Sentul? Buy only YTL la..."
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QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:45 AM)
Sentul is still sentul... maybe in ones wet dream only it can be like mont kiara.
even with D6&7 injected with herman miller n the high ends, with KLPAC around the corner.. the proximity to mont kiara high end F&B (eg: publika, solaris) makes not much of motivation for consumer (even those  sentul residents) to fine dine in sentul...

Until everything is transformed per ytl master plan only it will be different league.

COrrect, saffron is completed and VP few years back.. smile.gif no more VP la...the next VP is The Capers.

Don't only compare the condo product, compare the surrounding communities too, & u will know Sentul is far from good.
> This is accurate statement. Current focus can only zoom into ytl products (aka sentul east and sentul west)..
Basically there is no GnG around here and not sure if there is a plan...
Unlike Mont Kiara and Kampung Segambut- sort of clear line....
For sentul... sentul east and west are in sentul itself.... no clear line..

brought some singaporean friends to sentul from sentul link towards D6&7 before.. u will see them saying "WOW" and impressed.. after making a u-turn at the Boulevard area... they will see cows if u r lucky.. and they begin to get less impressed...
(Maybe xyyap taikor can share the sentiment as u have worked there for some time smile.gif )

Hence, there always a saying "Sentul? Buy only YTL la..." 
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I shared all liao.

Never work there. Stayed @ Sentul from born to 20 years old. Our old papan house is still there.

Strategic location, but far from atas place, & this is "Malaysia way" of development.

People shout The Fennel RM 800 psf to RM 1000 psf for MRT, it does not attract me, let them BBB loh. Haha.

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Afterall, i buy property is for mid to long term investment. The location and potential is there... I dont see why i shouldn't go for it.
QUOTE(xyyap @ Jun 13 2013, 02:04 PM)
I shared all liao.

Never work there. Stayed @ Sentul from born to 20 years old. Our old papan house is still there.

Strategic location, but far from atas place, & this is "Malaysia way" of development.

People shout The Fennel RM 800 psf to RM 1000 psf for MRT, it does not attract me, let them BBB loh. Haha.
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jun 13 2013, 02:04 PM)
I shared all liao.

Never work there. Stayed @ Sentul from born to 20 years old. Our old papan house is still there.

Strategic location, but far from atas place, & this is "Malaysia way" of development.

People shout The Fennel RM 800 psf to RM 1000 psf for MRT, it does not attract me, let them BBB loh. Haha.
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Rumah papan in sentul only can sustain until 2015, many of it, front door ady spray red marking, replacement under construction now..

2018 will be the good year for Sentul!
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jun 13 2013, 03:24 PM)
Rumah papan in sentul only can sustain until 2015, many of it, front door ady spray red marking, replacement under construction now..

2018 will be the good year for Sentul!
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In fact, DBKL start vacant those around One Sentul and UOA also bought a piece of land nearby.


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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jun 13 2013, 02:04 PM)
I shared all liao.

Never work there. Stayed @ Sentul from born to 20 years old. Our old papan house is still there.

Strategic location, but far from atas place, & this is "Malaysia way" of development.

People shout The Fennel RM 800 psf to RM 1000 psf for MRT, it does not attract me, let them BBB loh. Haha.
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When I say u work there, there refers to Termasek lah sir:) nevertheless. Many sentul boys dont buy sentul. Got one very very very x100000 popular investor grow up in sentul who is an author now also never buy there:)
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QUOTE(kingalfred9999 @ Jun 13 2013, 04:37 PM)
When I say u work there, there refers to Termasek lah sir:) nevertheless. Many sentul boys dont buy sentul. Got one very very very x100000 popular investorĀ  grow up in sentul who is an author now also never buy there:)
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Many sentul boys dont buy sentul. Got one very very very x100000 popular investor grow up in sentul who is an author now also never buy there:)
>>> I buy to flip & rental play only.

If too high, walk away, don't buy for the sake of buying.


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