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 The Fennel @ Sentul East by YTL, Sentul East YTL

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post Jun 11 2015, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jun 11 2015, 04:59 PM)
http://www.propwall.my/sentul/the_capers/533
Casper selling price May 2015  RM 786 psf compare April 2015 RM 827 psf
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post Jun 11 2015, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(algo @ Jun 9 2015, 07:06 PM)
i hv just moved in to capers and i can say one thing to ytl, irresponsible and totally ripping the owners off every cent. Almost all units have defects and so much so that the contractors have to work over weekends to rectify and the question is why such bad workmanship in the first place.

For 45cts, let me tell u this, mgmt closed on Sat and Sun and literally no maintenance over the weekend and not even cleaners.

Furthermore the following for you to judge:

1) No washing bay - when asked, mgmt said need to wait for JMB to be formed. How stupid YTL can be....
2) No bins around not even in common areas. Even basic stuff is overlooked
3) Shoddy workmanship, broken glass, damaged roof in carpark, flooding, etc
4) Need to pay expensive YES which doesnt comes with phone number even..Imagine NO OTHER CHOICES as YTL does not allow other providers in the building. Totally not considerate to the owners who have paid so much for nothing much really..
5) The most rediculous of all is the building does not support Astro HD...Imagine a new project delivered this year does not have such support with no option available.

I am calling all owners to be mindful and aware of what I am first hand experiencing and the list above is not even exhaustive. You judge for yourselves.....

Personally, no more YTL project ever......
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wow this is totally shocking..ytl sounds good only in name but delivers crap..it should be called crapers instead..smile.gif)

they tried that yes thingy in midfields and owners have to insist on having unify before ytl relented..
no astro hd?? adui, disgusting indeed..

usually the same contractors have to rectify their own workmanship in any development?

45 cents is a killer really ..midfields was not cheap either, around 36 cents? .

I have seen condos that have not had maintenance fees increased for 5 years - look at dpc for example..
so at the end of the day, you judge for yourself - worthwhile to buy or not..

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post Jun 12 2015, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Jun 11 2015, 07:09 PM)
wow this is totally shocking..ytl sounds good  only in name but delivers crap..it should be called crapers instead..smile.gif)

they tried that yes thingy in midfields and owners have to insist on having unify before ytl relented..
no astro hd??  adui, disgusting indeed..

usually the same contractors have to rectify their own workmanship in any development?

45 cents is a killer really ..midfields was not cheap either, around 36 cents?  .

I have seen condos that have not had maintenance fees increased for 5 years - look at dpc for example..
so at the end of the day, you judge for yourself - worthwhile to buy or not..
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Ya terrible. Price apparently crashing compared to last month, according to someone who posted propwall's prices!!!!

Today even worst. "Crapers" tower C flooded. Lifts all spoiled.

Expect next month price crash to rm400/sf onli.

All owners should rush and sell NOW!!!!
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post Jun 12 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jun 11 2015, 04:38 PM)
Which MK condo has RM0.22/sf maintenance fees?
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I've no idea if it's already increase their maintenance fees but it's indicating Maintenance Fee: RM0.22 psf (inclusive of sinking fund)
http://www.propwall.my/mont_kiara/28_mont_...21?tab=property

This one is Maintenance Fee: RM0.26 psf, 1238sf abt RM880k+ but it's a bit old la...and not as cool as the capers and teh fennel for sure! Aw...
http://www.propwall.my/mont_kiara/kiara_1888/22
http://www.propwall.my/classifieds/3934807...-by-william-lee

If RM0.55 is consider reasonable or even LOW to you, just go ahead and buy, I'm not complaining but just mumbling it's too Ex for me... no need to take it too personal ya... I wanted to stay in the coolest condo in KL(Sentul) too just that my pocket not deep enough... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

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post Jun 12 2015, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(alenn @ Jun 12 2015, 08:03 PM)
I've no idea if it's already increase their maintenance fees but it's indicating Maintenance Fee: RM0.22 psf (inclusive of sinking fund)
http://www.propwall.my/mont_kiara/28_mont_...21?tab=property

This one is Maintenance Fee: RM0.26 psf, 1238sf abt RM880k+ but it's a bit old la...and not as cool as the capers and teh fennel for sure! Aw...
http://www.propwall.my/mont_kiara/kiara_1888/22
http://www.propwall.my/classifieds/3934807...-by-william-lee

If RM0.55 is consider reasonable or even LOW to you, just go ahead and buy, I'm not complaining but just mumbling it's too Ex for me... no need to take it too personal ya... I wanted to stay in the coolest condo in KL(Sentul) too just that my pocket not deep enough... sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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So your ONLY source of information is based on propwall?

Just like the fella who said Capers price drop. Oso from propwall rclxms.gif

Good good. Never even been to the site oso make judgement so fast. All because surf internet.

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post Jun 12 2015, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jun 12 2015, 08:18 PM)
So your ONLY source of information is based on propwall?

Just like the fella who said Capers price drop. Oso from propwall rclxms.gif

Good good. Never even been to the site oso make judgement so fast. All because surf internet.

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Do I need to verify the exact figure by calling to their maintenance office, or to visit their office just to get the exact rate? sweat.gif sweat.gif

Dude, it's year 2015, we have Internet, we have google. You do no need to go to brick and mortal shop to buy cloths, you can even buy fruits online now. Sigh... shakehead.gif doh.gif

Propwall data might not be 100% accurate, it's just use as a benchmark. I believe that even if they increase their maintenance fee will not reach RM0.50 nor RM0.45. Please prove that I'm wrong ya. rclxms.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Jun 12 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(alenn @ Jun 12 2015, 08:39 PM)
Do I need to verify the exact figure by calling to their maintenance office, or to visit their office just to get the exact rate?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Dude, it's year 2015, we have Internet, we have google. You do no need to go to brick and mortal shop to buy cloths, you can even buy fruits online now. Sigh...  shakehead.gif  doh.gif

Propwall data might not be 100% accurate, it's just use as a benchmark. I believe that even if they increase their maintenance fee will not reach RM0.50 nor RM0.45. Please prove that I'm wrong ya.  rclxms.gif notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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No no No of course you're right. Buying property is EXACTLY like buying clothes. Just buy from internet, like how u buy fruits! No need to even go to the site. Property "investors" like you are the rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
Modern edi! Save few cents from even making phone call. because PROPWALL is THE BEST icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 12 2015, 10:11 PM

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Chill la, there's no smoke without fire. By being so defensive just making it worst.
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post Jun 12 2015, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jun 12 2015, 09:58 PM)
No no No of course you're right. Buying property is EXACTLY like buying clothes. Just buy from internet, like how u buy fruits! No need to even go to the site. Property "investors" like you are the  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Modern edi! Save few cents from even making phone call. because PROPWALL is THE BEST icon_rolleyes.gif
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Okok, I make more calls next time, everyone happy? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 13 2015, 01:16 AM

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No matter i-prop ke e-prop ke propwall ke Greatwall ke mudah ke susah ke all only can take 50% as reference. The rest need to make call appointment on site inspection to make further judgement.
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dual key layout plan on the official website now hmm.gif
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post Jun 13 2015, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Jun 12 2015, 10:11 PM)
Chill la, there's no smoke without fire. By being so defensive just making it worst.
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Agree agree agree.... hostility and anger are really not cool ..

keep emotions under control and just say your piece in a calm and collected manner to get your message
across ..macam gentleman ma..



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post Jun 14 2015, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Jun 12 2015, 10:11 PM)
Chill la, there's no smoke without fire. By being so defensive just making it worst.
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Exactly! Those who make empty claims keep defending so hard for what? Trying to justify apa?

Never been there say internet see picture cukup Liau.
Say poor quality compared to other developer but kennot name other project better.
Claim maintenance sky high compare to MK condo based on Internet "research".
Management opis not open on Sunday means developer shortchanging/tak Boleh pakai
Check internet site show one month average asking drop imply development price crashing.
Say never see pipu post picture after handover key means quality poor.

This thread so many interesting pipu
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post Jun 14 2015, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jun 14 2015, 03:06 AM)
Exactly! Those who make empty claims keep defending so hard for what? Trying to justify apa?

Never been there say internet see picture cukup Liau.
Say poor quality compared to other developer but kennot name other project better.
Claim maintenance sky high compare to MK condo based on Internet "research".
Management opis not open on Sunday means developer shortchanging/tak Boleh pakai
Check internet site show one month average asking drop imply development price crashing.
Say never see pipu post picture after handover key means quality poor.

This thread so many interesting pipu
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err..i think ameliorate is referring to you..lol..
you are defending the project and developer ...alenn is against..

ex owners of ytl projects (like myself) know that the delivery part is lacking eg midfields, lake edge..maintenance cost psf is higher than similar developments in the same category..anyway, am sure owners would have known how much wl be charged when they booked their units...management office
should be opened on Sats especially when development just vped IMO..ok lah sunday can tutup smile.gif

there was an owner earlier who did mention that the quality was poor..

dun think price will crash lah - sure got motivated sellers in this type of lembik market wan..

anyway, this development façade is unique so it stands out in sentul and one can notice it from afar -



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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jun 14 2015, 03:06 AM)
Exactly! Those who make empty claims keep defending so hard for what? Trying to justify apa?

Never been there say internet see picture cukup Liau.
Say poor quality compared to other developer but kennot name other project better.
Claim maintenance sky high compare to MK condo based on Internet "research".
Management opis not open on Sunday means developer shortchanging/tak Boleh pakai
Check internet site show one month average asking drop imply development price crashing.
Say never see pipu post picture after handover key means quality poor.

This thread so many interesting pipu
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LOL funny how ppl like these don't use the Internet. I dare say 80% of purchasing decision comes from the Internet. And that dude owns a ytl property and it's up to him to judge la.. it's a free forum. Everyone has the right to say what he thinks is right or wrong. Peace out bro
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Jun 14 2015, 09:45 AM)
err..i think ameliorate is referring to you..lol..
you are defending the project and developer ...alenn is against..

ex owners of ytl projects (like myself) know that the delivery part is lacking eg midfields, lake edge..maintenance cost psf is higher than similar developments in the same category..anyway, am sure owners would have known how much wl be charged when they booked their units...management office
should be opened on Sats especially when development just vped IMO..ok lah sunday can tutup smile.gif

there was an owner earlier who did mention that the quality was poor..

dun think price will crash lah - sure got motivated sellers in this type of lembik market wan..

anyway, this development façade is  unique so it stands out in sentul and one can notice it from afar -
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Yes I was referring to Minolta. Lol

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post Jun 14 2015, 10:44 AM

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Having owned midfield and lake edge, the points made on ytl is valid. Ytl property tends to be more investor friendly, no need deal with the headaches later if own stay..
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post Jun 14 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Jun 14 2015, 09:45 AM)
err..i think ameliorate is referring to you..lol..
you are defending the project and developer ...alenn is against..

ex owners of ytl projects (like myself) know that the delivery part is lacking eg midfields, lake edge..maintenance cost psf is higher than similar developments in the same category..anyway, am sure owners would have known how much wl be charged when they booked their units...management office
should be opened on Sats especially when development just vped IMO..ok lah sunday can tutup smile.gif

there was an owner earlier who did mention that the quality was poor..

dun think price will crash lah - sure got motivated sellers in this type of lembik market wan..

anyway, this development façade is  unique so it stands out in sentul and one can notice it from afar -
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Lol, buyers will remember queuing and given 1 mo to choose units and not even knowing more details than a simple layout plan. But they were already told of the maintenance cost.
So now after delivery wanna complain?
Motivated sellers? Please come! When got don't forget to show up here and put sign big big
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Jun 14 2015, 10:20 AM)
Yes I was referring to Minolta. Lol
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Lol. If u refer to me then post and reply my posts directly lah! If not how I know. Too many wannabes here posting edi
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jun 14 2015, 12:29 PM)
Lol, buyers will remember queuing and given 1 mo to choose units and not even knowing more details than a simple layout plan. But they were already told of the maintenance cost.
So now after delivery wanna complain?
Motivated sellers? Please come! When got don't forget to show up here and put sign big big
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wah you are SUPER defensive ...lol..

if buyers want to complain its their right to do so in this forum - why so garang?? adui..


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