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post Nov 4 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Nov 4 2012, 09:34 PM)
Ahh..expensive pun expensive lah..as long can buy locally.
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If expensive I'll be happy laugh.gif
Since I bought my Nexus for 5 months. If Nexus 4 comes out at that price (1500--) I still heart pain a bit one laugh.gif

If 2k then I won't heart pain d. Wait one year till it drops till <1k then buy again whistling.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Nov 4 2012, 09:38 PM)
If expensive I'll be happy laugh.gif
Since I bought my Nexus for 5 months. If Nexus 4 comes out at that price (1500--) I still heart pain a bit one  laugh.gif

If 2k then I won't heart pain d. Wait one year till it drops till <1k then buy again  whistling.gif
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ur heart won't pain but ur ass will (after we all kick u) smile.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Nov 4 2012, 09:38 PM)
If expensive I'll be happy laugh.gif
Since I bought my Nexus for 5 months. If Nexus 4 comes out at that price (1500--) I still heart pain a bit one  laugh.gif

If 2k then I won't heart pain d. Wait one year till it drops till <1k then buy again  whistling.gif
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maybe the best time to buy the n4 is one yr after its launching. similar to asus nexus 7 which selling is good price now.
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post Nov 4 2012, 09:46 PM

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There's nothing wrong if Google or LG want to sell Nexus with high premium price as long as they put the same price worldwide. Not one country price cheaper and another country way much higher. Ppl will start questioning..why..why..?

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post Nov 4 2012, 09:48 PM

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some sad report, hope it's not happen at LG Malaysia.

Spanish retailer suspends plans to sell Nexus 4 because LG will be selling the device at a much higher price than Google PLAY Store. LG RRP = €599 (~RM2,345)

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Nov 4 2012, 09:42 PM)
ur heart won't pain but ur ass will (after we all kick u) smile.gif
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Dare you? tongue.gif

QUOTE(dust @ Nov 4 2012, 09:46 PM)
maybe the best time to buy the n4 is one yr after its launching. similar to asus nexus 7 which selling is good price now.
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Actually no need a year. Galaxy Nexus price went from 2.2k to 1.2k from Nov 2011 to June 2012. 6 months brows.gif

QUOTE(waveweaver @ Nov 4 2012, 09:46 PM)
There's nothing wrong if Google or LG want to sell Nexus with high premium price as long as they put the same price worldwide. Not one country price cheaper and another country way much higher. Ppl will start questioning..why..why..?
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Impossible ppl won't question because those play store countries already get that fixed price laugh.gif

Why??? Why??????
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QUOTE(djlah @ Nov 4 2012, 09:48 PM)
actually is good sign smile.gif
show LG, consumer have the right to decide, not them ...
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is just either note 2 or nexus 4. the s3 can't even compare with nexus 4. how compare a outdated phone with latest flagship? this is indeed unfair for samseng.

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Nov 4 2012, 09:49 PM)

Actually no need a year. Galaxy Nexus price went from 2.2k to 1.2k from Nov 2011 to June 2012. 6 months  brows.gif
Impossible ppl won't question because those play store countries already get that fixed price  laugh.gif

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6 months is rather fast man. but a good new for us to grab cheaper nexus phone. rclxms.gif
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nexus 4 should take 2-3 months to drop its price(by then lg will reliase its mistake about the pricing) tongue.gif

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QUOTE(djlah @ Nov 4 2012, 09:48 PM)
Sadly, this is currently happening in a lot of EU countries. I've chatted with a few people who live in Spain, Austria and other countries, and they all say LG is marking up the price like crazy (€550+ in Austria, for example). Mots of them are trying to get it from the German Play Store where it's around €350+

To me, half the blame lies with Google. They know that the International market is is much more open to Android, especially those countries where there are no carrier subsidies and people mostly buy unlocked devices. They know that the international market doesn't have LTE set up just yet (mainly because HSDPA+ in may EU countries is almost as fast as US LTE), so the Nexus 4 makes much more sense, since they can avoid US carrier restrictions on CDMA/LTE. But they still don't realize that their distribution model is letting them down. They could have sold much more Nexus 7's if it were sold via Play in more countries, and now they're repeating the same mistake for the Nexus 4.



QUOTE(dust @ Nov 4 2012, 09:56 PM)
6 months is rather fast man. but a good new for us to grab cheaper nexus phone.  rclxms.gif
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Yeah, and enjoy it for 5 or 6 months before a new Nexus handset comes out tongue.gif

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:59 PM)
Sadly, this is currently happening in a lot of EU countries. I've chatted with a few people who live in Spain, Austria and other countries, and they all say LG is marking up the price like crazy (€550+ in Austria, for example). Mots of them are trying to get it from the German Play Store where it's around €350+

To me, half the blame lies with Google. They know that the International market is is much more open to Android, especially those countries where there are no carrier subsidies and people mostly buy unlocked devices. They know that the international market doesn't have LTE set up just yet (mainly because HSDPA+ in may EU countries is almost as fast as US LTE). But they still don't realize that their distribution model is letting them down. They could have sold much more Nexus 7's if it were sold via Play in more countries, and now they're repeating the same mistake for the Nexus 4.
Yeah, and enjoy it for 5 or 6 months before a new Nexus handset comes out tongue.gif
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Anyway, since the beginning, Nexus was never meant to be really a consumer device. It was and should be Developers' developing platform. Since Google is selling them that cheap, what can the manufacturer expect? Selling them at double the price? Will Google even lose that much profit without playstore in those countries? I doubt that.

*I mean... If I sell a phone at 300USD in PlayStore in US, will any user be spending another 300USD on Google services? I believe Google won't be getting 100% profit from their services so it's kinda too over to price it at double the price. Not to say that Google will make 100% (of the phone's price) profit less by selling them at the playstore price. unsure.gif unsure.gif Get what I'm trying to tell?*

I did checked some speedtest done on Galaxy Nexus LTE version. It's crazily fast! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up sweat.gif That's HSPA+ speed already but I believe it can go higher with LTE.

Anyway, HSPA+ or LTE not that feasible in Malaysia since the telcos don't have the bandwidth to cope with that usage and also won't be offering unlimited plans since Malaysian is demanding more international bandwidth than local bandwidth which is bloody expensive laugh.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Nov 4 2012, 10:10 PM)
Anyway, since the beginning, Nexus was never meant to be really a consumer device. It was and should be Developers' developing platform. Since Google is selling them that cheap, what can the manufacturer expect? Selling them at double the price? Will Google even lose that much profit without playstore in those countries? I doubt that.
Google do not care about hardware profits. For the Nexus 7, they gave almost all the hardware sales profit to Asus, so I imagine they're doing the same as LG. They make their money from ads and online services, so all they want is as many phones in people's hands as possible. The reason why the want to stop the Nexus devices being "developer only" is simple; they want pure Android in as many hands as possible. This is because as more manufacturers continue skinning Android, they'll eventually replace Google services with their their own. Eg: Samsung already offers its own cloud service and its own app market for S.Korea, Amazon totally reskinned everything in the Kindles and didn't even include a single Google service, and many Chinese OEMs are doing the same. This is how Google makes money, and the best way to do that is to convince people that the "default" Google way is best, which is why they're trying to push the Nexus brand as much as possible this year, not just for devs. that's also the reson why Google still continue to make great apps for competing platforms like the iPhone (unless Apple block them).

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:24 PM)
Google do not care about hardware profits. For the Nexus 7, they gave almost all the hardware sales profit to Asus, so I imagine they're doing the same as LG. They make their money from ads and online services, so all they want is as many phones in people's hands as possible. The reason why the want to stop the Nexus devices being "developer only" is simple; they want pure Android in as many hands as possible. This is because as more manufacturers continue skinning Android, they'll eventually replace Google services with their their own. Eg: Samsung already offers its own cloud service and its own app market for S.Korea, Amazon totally reskinned everything in the Kindles and didn't even include a single Google service, and many Chinese OEMs are doing the same. This is how Google makes money, and the best way to do that is to convince people that the "default" Google way is best, which is why they're trying to push the Nexus brand as much as possible this year, not just for devs. that's also the reson why Google still continue to make great apps for competing platforms like the iPhone (unless Apple block them).
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and google wants to improve android's image coz manufactures 'skinning' eats alot of ram and adds a lot of bloatwares.
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post Nov 4 2012, 11:10 PM

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Actually, HSPA+ signal is already in Malaysia. Under Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Mobile network type, if it says HSPAP, means is HSPA+ (-P means plus). Just that the telco is not activating it for all users, only for their wireless BB customers.

On Maxis HSPA+ network, I got 5 Mbps down on my Galaxy Nexus before when good signal.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Nov 4 2012, 10:10 PM)
Anyway, since the beginning, Nexus was never meant to be really a consumer device. It was and should be Developers' developing platform. Since Google is selling them that cheap, what can the manufacturer expect? Selling them at double the price? Will Google even lose that much profit without playstore in those countries? I doubt that.

*I mean... If I sell a phone at 300USD in PlayStore in US, will any user be spending another 300USD on Google services? I believe Google won't be getting 100% profit from their services so it's kinda too over to price it at double the price. Not to say that Google will make 100% (of the phone's price) profit less by selling them at the playstore price.  unsure.gif  unsure.gif Get what I'm trying to tell?*

I did checked some speedtest done on Galaxy Nexus LTE version. It's crazily fast! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up  sweat.gif That's HSPA+ speed already but I believe it can go higher with LTE.

Anyway, HSPA+ or LTE not that feasible in Malaysia since the telcos don't have the bandwidth to cope with that usage and also won't be offering unlimited plans since Malaysian is demanding more international bandwidth than local bandwidth which is bloody expensive  laugh.gif
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don't care la .... as long local telco can give me speed like unifi 5 mb i happy d ...
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There are some threads at Garage Sales offering Nexus 4 bulk orders already. Price around 1,500 - 1,600. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 5 2012, 01:11 AM)
There are some threads at Garage Sales offering Nexus 4 bulk orders already. Price around 1,500 - 1,600.  hmm.gif
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the lack of warranty is a real turn of for me.
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Nov 5 2012, 01:31 AM)
the lack of warranty is a real turn of for me.
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Then have to wait for Maxis or Digi to bring in.
Coupled with RM200 rebate I think should be less than RM 1,000 on 24 months contract. tongue.gif
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I don't think maxis bring offer it

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