LAN will only terminate the course if they deem it unfit or fell below the minimum standards. but there are other reasons why a course could be terminated, for example, by the school itself on reasons like not enough students, not feasible and stuff like that; or reasons from higher up like the ministry of higher education on reasons like breach of agreement or stuff like that.

but i believe LAN or the MOHE will not terminate a course without consideration. a lot of courses both in public and private colleges still have not achieved LAN accreditations, and students still go there, no problem.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 3 2006, 02:49 AM

Mr azarimy:
i need ur advice, i found out that lot of colleges in Penang with "certification of Accreditation" are very expensive. Because of my finacial problem as well, i feel very tention, don't know whether i should just go for a degree course that only approved by LAN(more cheaper,around RM26,000) or i should go for degree course that achieved Accreditation(more expensive,around RM36,000)?

Different between will be RM10,000.

Pls advice,really out of idea.........

This post has been edited by Janice88: Mar 3 2006, 03:15 AM

Do you mean approval by MOHE?

Getting to a course with accreditation might benefits you later if you plan to works with government agencies. If you're not bother to work with government agencies, there is not much problem too. Read our previous post on this issue. Have you heard of PTPTN? Don't worry. PTPTN will give you the scholarship (loan) if you fulfill the requirement.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Mar 3 2006, 06:22 AM

what stevan said is generally true. although PTPTN only give out study loans to LAN accredited courses only. that's why non-accredited courses are cheaper. they had to. if not, no one will apply to their courses. it's partly a marketing strategy.

in my opinion, non-accredited courses isnt that bad. but there are a bunch which are just there to prey upon unsuspecting students. to be safe, my opinion is that u apply to courses that have been there for several years with several batches of graduates. try and get opinions from them about the course and job availability.

some courses are quite good despite not having accredited by LAN. they do this by catering EXACTLY what the industry needs, but usually foregoes other stuff like research and development.

Sorry stevanistelrooy,i dont understand the term of MOHE?

Actually i have checked through the college that i wanted to study at the LAN website
http://www.lan.gov.my/english/index2eng.htm , and its under the list of approval and minimum standard. So can i assumed that is approved by LAN?

But its not under the list of achieved Accreditation and obtained their Certificates of Accreditation: -

So the real problem that i consider is whether my bachelor that without accreditation will affect me looking for job in private banking sector or others industries like logistic industry?

All the courses will be approved first by Ministry of Higher Education( MOHE). After getting approval, they can offer the programmes to us. Take note that all the programmes that have getting approval from MOHE,not all of the approval programmes by MOHE are LAN accreditated. If the college / Uni that you are applying are in the list, make sure what courses that have been accreditated by LAN. You can try by checking the respectitive Uni or college website.

Janice, it is not a problem if you have a degree without a LAN accreditated.But take note that some company prefer to hire LAN accreditated student because they have set a benchmark for that programmes.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Mar 3 2006, 01:27 PM

Course Approval and Course Accreditation is two distinctive criteria to determine a course quality. An approved course may not be an accreditated course but not the other way round.

MOHE is doing the approval and LAN is doing the accreditation. For Engineering courses, there's IEM cooperation with LAN for accreditation.

Ohana Means Family

This post has been edited by David83: Mar 3 2006, 02:14 PM

that's what i'm worry about.....May i know which college or Uni are u in?
by the way,thx for ur help and azarimy as well!

He's in MMU Melaka campus under the umbrella of FIST (IT faculty).

Ohana Means Family

You're welcome.
I'm from MMU. If wanna ask anything, drop me a PM or visit MMU thread.

Well, it is advisable to take up courses with LAN accreditation though. You can't predict what will happen in future. Taken first precaution is much better rather than regret later on.

U r right then i think only Kolej- Disted Stamford in Penang suit me because their Bachelor of Commerce is LAN Accreditation. www.disted.edu.my

Besides that,i also consider Unitar(University Tunku Abdul Razak) as well but my friend said that their quality is doubtful www.unitar.edu.my

Inti and KDU in Penang are very expensive

About the MMU - B.IT Security Technology & Artificial Intelligence, how long/much to expect for the quality?

How they actually evaluate the accreditation and recognition, for example, if the LAN and JPA accredited and recognized after the 4th batch of students, what happen to previous batch student's degree? accredited and recognized as the 4th batch students, or considered not recognized?

This post has been edited by Angela.X: Mar 4 2006, 01:01 AM

Once the course is approved and accredited, previous, current and future students will get the recognition throughout Malaysia.

Ohana Means Family

i'm definitely sure about the current and future students, but i dont think they'll give accreditation automatically to the previous students. in UTM, the part time architectural degree is currently undergoing accreditation, and i was part of the committee working on the accreditation (until i took study leave).

LAN didnt award full accreditation for the course, and told us accreditation is pending a few adjustments and additions that they require, but, the current graduating batch and the one before it gets full accreditation. we asked about the other previous batches, they said those graduates could apply accreditation individually. it's too far back over the years for them to give accreditation automatically.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 4 2006, 04:16 AM

You may right about the accreditation to the previous batches of students. I apologize for that statement ...

Ohana Means Family

well, i'm not sure about that. if they give full accreditation to the course, they MIGHT give all previous batches accreditation as well. but here's the procedure:

during the accreditation assessment, they want to see ALL works done by the current AND previous students. and they werent kidding about ALL works. students that were granted accreditation during our times were those who had ALL their works. those who have less than 70% of their works (especially the final year dissertation/project) were not given accreditation.

so if u've graduated by an unaccredited course, keep all ur works. i mean EVERYTHING!

As for my course, my seniors have been through what you have been through.

Last month, some of friends were attending the accreditation evaluation session as described as you. If everything is sailing smoothly, the course will be accreditated by LAN and IEM.

MMU does have cases where the degree is failed to get accreditated for the first time but that won't stop the APAC and faculty to keep on pressing the LAN-IEM buttons.

Ohana Means Family

that's true. if they couldnt get accreditation this year, they could apply next year and every single year until they get it. UTM part time courses (known as SPACE) have been working for accreditating architecture degree for about 5 years now. still havent got the full accreditation process. some people wanted to give up applying, because it is a very tedious process...

i'm glad that i'm away now...

Want to ask furthermore about the accreditation period.
How long they assess it for one time, before proceeding to list it succeed or failure? And is there any time limitation for the acreditation purpose? Like can apply for it until how many times or something like that?

once an accreditation is awarded by LAN, its accreditation cannot be terminated depending on the number of years its awarded. this accreditation needs to be renewed every few years, and thats when the courses will be reassessed again.

for mmu, optical major should be getting their accreditation next year, as the first batch of students will be graduating this year. as for nano tech and bio-instrumentation major, assessment will be done in 2-3 years time, when the first batch of students graduate. personally i wouldnt worry too much about the accreditation, cuz it will come sooner or later .