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pc123
post May 28 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(simple.ology @ May 28 2008, 02:23 PM)
Oh god... today slb just reply me a mail... like below...

[Thank you for your interest regarding employment with Schlumberger. After carefully considering your background,qualifications and our current requirements, we feel that at the present time we do not have a position available that would satisfy both our needs.]

If not mistaken, I applied slb on last Dec. I did not received any acknowledgement email that stating whether they have received my online application or not... until today... I'm informed that I did not succeed for my application...

Does it mean I will have to wait for another 1 1/2 year to reapply or forever I have lost my chance...

fyi... I got a degree in Mechanical but have 2 years of sales and marketing experience in semicon industry... is it that hard for me to switch into oil and gas industry...?
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aww...dun give up...still so many OnG companies rite? btw, wat do u major in? u apply for wat? students muz know which job has low prospects...
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post May 28 2008, 11:02 PM


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QUOTE(zeusu @ May 28 2008, 08:29 AM)
I'm doing m/lwd. Just finished a penta combo job with RT geosteering, went for some internal management training & now back on another rig (yes, writing here after my shift on the rig & i am probably like 15 ft away from the rotary table now). Worked in some locations in Latin America & Middle East, attended training in the US, Southeast Asia & Middle East. Currently have experience with about 12 tool families on M/LWD side in the various sizes. Same as you, longest hours without sleep is only 48 hours.

What about you, iDk?

and pinkdalmation, it depends on your contract, IMs only get 48 days vacation, can be rolled over to next year if not taken. ICs get rotations, HCR/HCMs might get rotations depending on local management. Also, although they hire you as FE locally, you could suddenly be IM & posted to another location. Compare the salary & what you wish to learn, operator companies usually treat you better though. Also, ask yourself if you feel suited for the job.

I rejected Shell last time but it was mainly 'cos of the pay & the difference in the position offered where I was hired and then really given.
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So you are at upstream and we are different, i at downstream and in NDT field (i also not sure where am i standing; up or down) I doing pipeline inspection (pigging) for onshore, offshore, platform, plant, or anything that has pipeline included cleaning, commissioning, integrity etc . But my area only limited to all the countries in Asia except Japan; Shell, Chevron, Petronas, PTT (petrol thailand?), PVGC (petrol Vietnam Gas Company), Exxomobile, BP, ...... etc.

How long have you been in the field that you are currently doing?

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post May 28 2008, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(leefk @ May 27 2008, 06:06 PM)
Hi, I will be start working in Exxon next Monday. Will be in IT dept. I think it's no harm for you to try work there as a freshie.
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Hi, IT Dept there using what software?
Got to have what technical skills?
And how was the interview? What did they ask
Hope u can share blush.gif
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post May 28 2008, 11:50 PM

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when ppl hear about O&G, they will think that .. wow! good money.. but do u know that u need to suffer at the beginning?? offshore work is not for everyone.. unless u've set your mind to the job.. have to give your best concentration (101%).. offshore work is dangerous and u can't afford to make any mistakes.. 1 mistake and u'd be gone/vanish/ban in the industry.. and also ppl can die from the mistake (if u're in the diving field).. u need to work 12 hours a day, stuck at the oil rig/vessel.. no meeting your family, gf/bf/wife/husband and etc.. no social life no clubbing no shopping tongue.gif

yea, petroleum will be gone by the next 20 years or so.. there might be more companies trying to find/look for oil.. hence there's more jobs but it doesn't necessary guarantee that u'd have a job coz many ppl are joining the O&G carer.. it's harder to find for a job nowadays in the O&G industry now *sigh*

oh oh.. and also the more u earn the more income tax u need to pay! grrrrrrr mad.gif


Added on May 28, 2008, 11:52 pmso which company are u working for now? smile.gif

QUOTE(iDk @ May 28 2008, 11:02 PM)
So you are at upstream and we are different, i at downstream and in NDT field (i also not sure where am i standing; up or down) I doing pipeline inspection (pigging) for onshore, offshore, platform, plant, or anything that has pipeline included cleaning, commissioning, integrity etc . But my area only limited to all the countries in Asia except Japan; Shell, Chevron, Petronas, PTT (petrol thailand?), PVGC (petrol Vietnam Gas Company), Exxomobile, BP, ...... etc.

How long have you been in the field that you are currently doing?
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QUOTE(nicole_nic81 @ May 28 2008, 11:50 PM)
when ppl hear about O&G, they will think that .. wow! good money.. but do u know that u need to suffer at the beginning?? offshore work is not for everyone.. unless u've set your mind to the job.. have to give your best concentration (101%).. offshore work is dangerous and u can't afford to make any mistakes.. 1 mistake and u'd be gone/vanish/ban in the industry.. and also ppl can die from the mistake (if u're in the diving field).. u need to work 12 hours a day, stuck at the oil rig/vessel.. no meeting your family, gf/bf/wife/husband and etc.. no social life no clubbing no shopping tongue.gif

yea, petroleum will be gone by the next 20 years or so.. there might be more companies trying to find/look for oil.. hence there's more jobs but it doesn't necessary guarantee that u'd have a job coz many ppl are joining the O&G carer.. it's harder to find for a job nowadays in the O&G industry now *sigh*


Added on May 28, 2008, 11:52 pmso which company are u working for now? smile.gif
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Why do you want to know the answer? If reasonable, i can pm you. Or else i prefer to keep it low and pnc. Unless you looking for ppl to work for you or your company at the site or field, then we can discuss about it privately.
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post May 29 2008, 05:35 AM

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same same iDk, need to keep low profile as well, I think I've given out too much info...lol
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post May 29 2008, 09:30 AM

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don't get me wrong okay? i was just asking as my hubby is working in O&G for 6-7 years already.. in fact he's in mexico now for close to 2 months already

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post May 29 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(pc123 @ May 28 2008, 10:43 PM)
aww...dun give up...still so many OnG companies rite? btw, wat do u major in? u apply for wat? students muz know which job has low prospects...
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I'm majoring in Mehanical ya know... and applying for field engineer position...
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QUOTE(nicole_nic81 @ May 28 2008, 11:50 PM)
when ppl hear about O&G, they will think that .. wow! good money.. but do u know that u need to suffer at the beginning?? offshore work is not for everyone.. unless u've set your mind to the job.. have to give your best concentration (101%).. offshore work is dangerous and u can't afford to make any mistakes.. 1 mistake and u'd be gone/vanish/ban in the industry.. and also ppl can die from the mistake (if u're in the diving field).. u need to work 12 hours a day, stuck at the oil rig/vessel.. no meeting your family, gf/bf/wife/husband and etc.. no social life no clubbing no shopping tongue.gif

yea, petroleum will be gone by the next 20 years or so.. there might be more companies trying to find/look for oil.. hence there's more jobs but it doesn't necessary guarantee that u'd have a job coz many ppl are joining the O&G carer.. it's harder to find for a job nowadays in the O&G industry now *sigh*

oh oh.. and also the more u earn the more income tax u need to pay! grrrrrrr  mad.gif


Added on May 28, 2008, 11:52 pmso which company are u working for now? smile.gif
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Please look back the page 35 Post #775, Christine85 could answer your question why joining in Oil and Gas Company.
Has your hubby complaining about his job?
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post May 29 2008, 02:39 PM

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I was looking through the medical checkup forms and i noticed it states " you will be asked to provide a stool sample"

stool sample? how?

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post May 29 2008, 03:36 PM

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lol...i had that problem too last time, gotta wait in the clinic until i managed to do it...
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post May 29 2008, 05:12 PM

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. . .

you seriously have to wait in the clinic till you poo ?

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post May 29 2008, 05:56 PM

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Nicole, here`s sth bout O&G benifits:

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haha... you got some point there, but i would say that O&G is certainly far more better than lots of other industry outside.

For other companies:
1. fresh grads' avg salary 2k
2. no allowance
3. stick in the lab/factory/ office as well
4. doing same thing over and over again--->boring & no life
5. Some job need u to work more than 10hours per day but only get half og the pay given by O&G companies
6. risk in some jobs, eg: chemist--> exposed to chemical stuffs. if explode accidently, also die--> life's a fate, if destinied to die, sure will die regardless of how, where and why.
7. After 30 years, pension, not even enough for the rest of the life, think about goin travelling? better dreams when sleeping

NO MONEY---> DUN EVER SICK, if sick, better die directly than suffer
              ---> No dreams, no big houses, no fancy cars, nth to enjoy, imagine, born into this world eg: for 70years, doin nth but study, work,
                      nth to enjoy, no money for travelling etc
              ---> Wan to own a business after working for 10years? think again and plan. money? experience in business?
              ---> dun even think of want to give family a better life, no money no talk

There are certainly many industry which u could earn a lot, eg
1.network marketing, but too many ppl have negative view on it, pandek kata, coward malaysians, especially, dun even dare to know what it is.. some even say tat its a scam, cheat ppl's money etc.. sorry, system=dead, onlp ppl cheat ppl. so nth's wrong
2. Insurance, need to find customers, some ppl dun even know how to talk
3. Financial planner, more or less need to find customers also
4. business, no money no talk
5. etc

Life is not only about urself. how about ur family? ur parents? your future kids? Its about responsibility. Sometimes u need to sacrifice in order to get sth better in your life. Like kevinling said, no pain, no gain. This is one of the industries which makes u really tough, both mentally and physically, at least you're paid with all the 'pain' u gain through out the process. i believe if one could survive in this industry, he or she will be able to survive in other industries as well. Hence, why complain when O&G trainu to be better and gives u money, thus, dreams and better life etc.? laugh.gif and not all ppl work for rest of their life in O&G. It is also a stepping stone and financial foundation source for your other future planning.
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--very good argument rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
In any conditions, after years of xperience, cnt yur hubby simply juz shift to the management side/consultation,office jobs? Sinz u said yur hubby is in offshore n tat it`s abit tiring and being away for too long(soaked iwth sweat, intense heat frm Sun,etc etc...long rotation periods)

christine, yur gona work in an office rite? can brief me a lit mor on the office life lik wat u seen in the shell internhsip? so, shud b mor relaxing rite? nothing much dif like other office jobs? --work in morning,lunch wit collegues, back home at evening, then dinner with loved ones,shop/clubs..etc etc? btw, r u working in malaysia or outside the mainland? is there a department in penang?lol.. then hows the upgrade of salary thing is done? evry year got automatic salary increment? at the age of 25(assume grad at 25), earns 5k at slb.. How bout salary for office jobs offered by other companies--shell,petro,etc...

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QUOTE(pc123 @ May 29 2008, 05:56 PM)
Nicole, here`s sth bout O&G benifits:
--very good argument rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
In any conditions, after years of xperience, cnt yur hubby simply juz shift to the management side/consultation,office jobs? Sinz u said yur hubby is in offshore n tat it`s abit tiring and being away for too long(soaked iwth sweat, intense heat frm Sun,etc etc...long rotation periods)

christine, yur gona work in an office rite? can brief me a lit mor on the office life lik wat u seen in the shell internhsip? so, shud b mor relaxing rite? nothing much dif like other office jobs? --work in morning,lunch wit collegues, back home at evening, then dinner with loved ones,shop/clubs..etc etc? btw, r u working in malaysia or outside the mainland? is there a department in penang?lol.. then hows the upgrade of salary thing is done? evry year got automatic salary increment? at the age of 25(assume grad at 25), earns 5k at slb.. How bout salary for office jobs offered by other companies--shell,petro,etc...
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smile.gif thanks for the compliment. hmm... if u look back on my previous posts, i've mentioned about the office life be4. Yea, the office life in O&G companies is pretty much the same as in other companies. there are times when u'll be really really busy, especially when u're required to pass up a report in the given time frame and there are also times when u;ll be really free, ie when you finish your assignment. However you still can do the routine with your loved ones anytime u want especially when u're working in O&G companies as most of the O&G companies allow you to access their system at home. i'm based in malaysia, and i dont think there's any office in penang. About the salary increment, it is usually given to those who have more experiences and for certain companies, passing exams are required. For slb, i heard the recruiter said that exam will be held every year. Hence, u'll get a chance to upgrade urself once a year. Im not sure about automatic increment. for other companies, the salary is approximately:
Dugeo:2.5K, i think got plus allowance
Shell: 2.7k, plus allowance which makes the total=5k
Petronas: 2.6k, i dunno got plus allowance or not but bonus quite high depending on the performance.
Talisman: 3k, plus some allowance
CGG&Veritas: ~2.5k also...
some companies give allowance and some dont...
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i'm obviously NOT complaining about his job.. IF i am, i won't even want to marry him at the 1st place.. i'm just saying that offshore jobs aren't easy.. like ppl think only about the money but not the work (the loneliness, responsibilities, the danger)..

if he's not doing what he's doing, i won't be here enjoying my life as a housewife and having all the luxuries a girl can dream off! tongue.gif and he's not working with any of the malaysia companies hence i think it's better as he doesn't need to pay tax wink.gif i've been supporting him all this while and he's gonna retire in 10 years time.. that's our plan.. so i guess it's a good smile.gif

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QUOTE(christine85 @ May 29 2008, 09:18 PM)
smile.gif thanks for the compliment. hmm... if u look back on my previous posts, i've mentioned about the office life be4. Yea, the office life in O&G companies is pretty much the same as in other companies. there are times when u'll be really really busy, especially when u're required to pass up a report in the given time frame and there are also times when u;ll be really free, ie when you finish your assignment. However you still can do the routine with your loved ones anytime u want especially when u're working in O&G companies as most of the O&G companies allow you to access their system at home. i'm based in malaysia, and i dont think there's any office in penang. About the salary increment, it is usually given to those who have more experiences and for certain companies, passing exams are required. For slb, i heard the recruiter said that exam will be held every year. Hence, u'll get a chance to upgrade urself once a year. Im not sure about automatic increment. for other companies, the salary is approximately:
Dugeo:2.5K, i think got plus allowance
Shell: 2.7k, plus allowance which makes the total=5k
Petronas: 2.6k, i dunno got plus allowance or not but bonus quite high depending on the performance.
Talisman: 3k, plus some allowance
CGG&Veritas: ~2.5k also...
some companies give allowance and some dont...
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Yeah..tats definitely the life i want icon_idea.gif ..easy,relax,considered less pressure compared to offshorres..as a plus point, higher pay than other deciplines n u juz work in an office.. nod.gif .. hmm.gif no doubt most companies offer up to at least RM4k(plus allowance) for beginners....as beginners shudn`t xpect so much right biggrin.gif ..neway, thz for clearing my doubts for office life..

If i want to go offshore for sum time(shud get sum xperience), then hop back to office life izzit easy to do tat? I heard offshore xperienced seniors wil definite obtain mor $$ bt its rather hard to switch..i hope 2 at least be able to experience da life at rig b4 going for office jobs..Wat r the procedures involved for doin tat? is jumping here n there easy? vry keen on knowing all these things altho i havent start univ life..sry if i ask unwise ques.. laugh.gif



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pc123, i talked to a couple of senior senior people in the field .. they started out offshore, now in the office. . after you complete your training and climb up the ladder you can move back to the office (either management or different field) .. but you should bare in mind that its a substantial pay cut from offshore to office cos you dont get offshore bonus and additional allowance in the office smile.gif
bare in mind that it will take a while till you do complete training lar ..
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QUOTE(pinkdalmation @ May 29 2008, 10:08 PM)
pc123, i talked to a couple of senior senior people in the field  .. they started out offshore, now in the office. . after you complete your training and climb up the ladder you can move back to the office (either management or different field) .. but you should bare in mind that its a substantial pay cut from offshore to office cos you dont get offshore bonus and additional allowance in the office smile.gif
bare in mind that it will take a while till you do complete training lar  ..
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i`m planing to do so tongue.gif how bout the hop here and there procedure? yur saying b4 hopping to management line frm the offshore field u gota do a couple of tranings la rite? i noe..other than tat? rclxub.gif confuse...shudn`t consume lots of time isn`t it?
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Im not sure about other companies, but for SLB its between 3-5 years, depending on how good you are and how fast you progress . . so you're looking at 5-10 years offshore before going back if youre an engineer . .

if geophysics major i think it takes a shorter time if to get back to the office if youre offshore cos majority of geophyscists are in the office. . not too sure lar, but my senior got back to the offic epretty quick smile.gif
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QUOTE(pinkdalmation @ May 29 2008, 05:12 PM)
. . .

you seriously have to wait in the clinic till you poo ?
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yeah, nurse pointed out that fruit stalls, some roti canai & teh tarik will help....lol, they don't need alot of sample though.

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