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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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peinsama
post Apr 12 2014, 09:51 AM

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Got one of those Lantern orb where Ray of Frost pierces just like Disintegrate.

oh my, quite good as well.

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post Apr 12 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 12 2014, 09:51 AM)
Got one of those Lantern orb where Ray of Frost pierces just like Disintegrate.

oh my, quite good as well.
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Yup, Light Of Grace. I tried ROF w Black Ice alongside with Disintegrate, not enough power in comparison. Disintegrate can kill faster. Tried on about the same Cold Damage bonus.
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post Apr 12 2014, 01:02 PM

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RoF has a smaller AOE effect, and the beam tries to snap to targets. That's why it's not going to be as good as disintegrate. Fun to play with, but ultimately pales.
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post Apr 12 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 12 2014, 11:18 AM)
Yup, Light Of Grace. I tried ROF w Black Ice alongside with Disintegrate, not enough power in comparison. Disintegrate can kill faster. Tried on about the same Cold Damage bonus.
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 12 2014, 01:02 PM)
RoF has a smaller AOE effect, and the beam tries to snap to targets. That's why it's not going to be as good as disintegrate. Fun to play with, but ultimately pales.
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Yup, compare to disintegrate. Disintegrate is much fun and much wow.

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post Apr 12 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 12 2014, 01:53 PM)
Yup, compare to disintegrate. Disintegrate is much fun and much wow.
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Much power, as for ROF tried to snap target, Disintegrate w Temporal Flux will do better. tongue.gif

As Frozen Orb slight nerfed in terms of damage output, Arcane build with either Disintegrate or AT is quite a good side option now. smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 12 2014, 02:30 PM)
Much power, as for ROF tried to snap target, Disintegrate w Temporal Flux will do better. tongue.gif

As Frozen Orb slight nerfed in terms of damage output, Arcane build with either Disintegrate or AT is quite a good side option now. smile.gif
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I went AT. The downside of AT is the initial lag before the missiles come out. It feels really odd sometimes. Disintegrate is fun but I played D3V with that for the longest time, wanted to try something else.

Any of you guys went hydra? With the pet buff, hydra's are pretty good now.
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post Apr 12 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 12 2014, 04:02 PM)
I went AT. The downside of AT is the initial lag before the missiles come out. It feels really odd sometimes. Disintegrate is fun but I played D3V with that for the longest time, wanted to try something else.

Any of you guys went hydra? With the pet buff, hydra's are pretty good now.
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Yeah, tried Arcane Hydra, deal 4~5m crit damage which is awesome. Still i think hydra scaled better with higher ASPD, better on my fire wizard instead. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 12 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 12 2014, 02:30 PM)
Much power, as for ROF tried to snap target, Disintegrate w Temporal Flux will do better. tongue.gif

As Frozen Orb slight nerfed in terms of damage output, Arcane build with either Disintegrate or AT is quite a good side option now. smile.gif
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Yup, however, there's one more thing i need to find out. If i have Azurewrath + frostburn with me, i think RoF can be a devasting build. Imagine the freeze capability plus Cold Blooded passive skill. Insane yo.

QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 12 2014, 04:02 PM)
I went AT. The downside of AT is the initial lag before the missiles come out. It feels really odd sometimes. Disintegrate is fun but I played D3V with that for the longest time, wanted to try something else.

Any of you guys went hydra? With the pet buff, hydra's are pretty good now.
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I'm not sure Hydra is consider as pet but i'm abit disappointed Hydra doesn't proc EE. It should have.
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post Apr 12 2014, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 12 2014, 04:02 PM)
I went AT. The downside of AT is the initial lag before the missiles come out. It feels really odd sometimes. Disintegrate is fun but I played D3V with that for the longest time, wanted to try something else.

Any of you guys went hydra? With the pet buff, hydra's are pretty good now.
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Yeah, read at Wizard forum @ battlenet. AT seems to have slight delay for every missle casted. Never try before thou i wanna play tank with Death Blossom and MLW. brows.gif

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post Apr 12 2014, 09:03 PM

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Oh my damn! my triumvirate, damn gay!

It doesn't boost my damage but when it comes to killing monsters into pieces? Hngggggggggggg

Kinda remind me the black weapon effect.
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post Apr 13 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 12 2014, 09:03 PM)
Oh my damn! my triumvirate, damn gay!

It doesn't boost my damage but when it comes to killing monsters into pieces? Hngggggggggggg

Kinda remind me the black weapon effect.
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i got my triumvirate from kadala....haha. sheet dps goes down, but am i killing faster? i not so sure lolx

btw, guys, which crafted legs are good for wiz?
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 13 2014, 03:08 PM)
i got my triumvirate from kadala....haha. sheet dps goes down, but am i killing faster? i not so sure lolx

btw, guys, which crafted legs are good for wiz?
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Utar's Roar is good for Cold wizard, Aughild's set is quite decent as well. Reaper's Warps, Cosmic Strand... to name a few. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 13 2014, 10:52 PM

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Eh guys...quite question...


Area damage ...is it working?
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post Apr 13 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 13 2014, 03:08 PM)
i got my triumvirate from kadala....haha. sheet dps goes down, but am i killing faster? i not so sure lolx

btw, guys, which crafted legs are good for wiz?
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Yup, based on my killing rate, even with lower dps, i killed fast. Like really fast.

QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 13 2014, 10:52 PM)
Eh guys...quite question...
Area damage ...is it working?
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I find it silly. Not something to be allocated at early stage
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 13 2014, 10:59 PM)
Yup, based on my killing rate, even with lower dps, i killed fast. Like really fast.
I find it silly. Not something to be allocated at early stage
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ok then i will switch skill points lol

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post Apr 14 2014, 03:35 AM

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anyone get mirrorball from kadala before? smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 13 2014, 10:52 PM)
Eh guys...quite question...
Area damage ...is it working?
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 13 2014, 10:59 PM)

I find it silly. Not something to be allocated at early stage
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hm...i also not sure. but based on blizzard forum, seems a lot say it's very good. Since all character got a based 20% chance to do area damage, so if area damage % is higher, it's better, no?
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post Apr 14 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 14 2014, 06:48 AM)
hm...i also not sure. but based on blizzard forum, seems a lot say it's very good. Since all character got a based 20% chance to do area damage, so if area damage % is higher, it's better, no?
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they are characters like monks, crusaders and barbs i believe?

If im paragorning from 100-200, i dont think i want to waste my points on Area damage first.

Maybe in later paragorn level.
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QUOTE(MoMoTear @ Apr 14 2014, 03:35 AM)
anyone get mirrorball from kadala before? smile.gif
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mirrorball is very rate from kadala.

i have got:
4 triumve (or 5)
2 chandato
1 myken ball
2 oculus

then only got mirrorball. lost count on Shard spend
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post Apr 14 2014, 12:15 PM

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@Wallance

If you have not found the CDR write up in battlenet yet, let me explain :
cdr has deminishing returns, meaning the graph isnt a straight line, it curves downwards.

eg : if your are running evoc(20%) , captain's set(10%) and have a diamond gem (12.5%),
that would be 42.5% cdr theoretically, but it doesnt work that way.
Heres the formula :
1-(1-a)(1-b)(1-c) : where a,b,c is the percentage of cdr u have. In this case it will be 0.20 for evoc, 0.10 for captain and 0.125 for diamond.

1-(0.8)(0.9)(0.875) = 0.37 (will show as 37% CDR on ur paper)

37% cdr will be your final cd reduction. If you run archon pure power, that will be :
120-20 = 100
100 x 0.63 = 63s cooldown. Take away 20s for archon uptime that will only leave you with 43s of vulnerability.
I hope this helps some ppl out thr.
Now Wallance can u share the t6 solo wiz with frozen mist build?

@Pein
AoE damage is sick i heard, but it is purely for aoe. If there is only 1 mob you have 20% chance to proc. In a situation of 10mobs and when u fire your arcane orb --> pass 1st mob = boom, pass 4th mob = boom, pass 7th mob = boom again. In a nutshell : it has a chance to proc everytime ur spell hits a monster. So the damage deal is actually exponential to number of mobs present. Correct me if im wrong.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12032383478




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