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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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post Apr 9 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 9 2014, 12:06 PM)
MLW = moonlight ward. when u deal dmg in 15yards u gain 4 small arcane orbits dealing close to 300% arcane dmg per sec. Explosion radius is around 10yards similar to AO. As sick as it sounds, it is actually hands down the best amulet. Blizz decided to remove it frm the loot table before patch and nerf it before putting it back again. Now it does not explode every second, less dmg output but it still roll crazy arcane element % (20-25%)

WOW = wand of woh, u cast additional 3 eb for every eb u casted. If you run chain reaction, u will have a total of 12 explosions. Most ppl run fire elem + eb skill dmg since chain rxt is fire based. But i prefer arcane build : WoW with mlw, arcane orbits, eb-970% dmg rune, black hole, end of story. Hopefully i can get them asap

They are saying arcane dynamo is back, its gona be sick chanelling spells again. FO wiz might want to change to arcane build.
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actually i just tested.. got it from the super awesome sparkle cake from pony lvl.. was hunting mats actually.. It only deal damage after the 4 small arcane orbits is around u and when enemy touches u. work similar like arcane orbit rune. but it spawns like almost instant whenever u deal damage.
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:06 AM

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Tried Frozen Orb in the same difficulty (Torment II)

Even though the AOE is lesser than before, it is still a significant damaging spell to be used for kiting purposes. As always, higher cost reduction and higher AP helps but the gameplay totally depends on how you cast it to the enemies. There were time i 'miscast' to another direction which totally waste the potency of Arcane Orb.

The nerf isn't that bad for me. Still playable and to certain extent....doesn't feel anything changed at all. It just helps me to cast correctly at the right direction. lol

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post Apr 10 2014, 09:09 AM

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I still have the lvl 60 MLW but never bothered to use it until I read this thread.

I never realised that it was that good. I am still new to the game still.

Anyway, I run the cookie cutter FO build and I don't feel nerfed too bad though.

Or I might have neutralised the nerf by equipping Strongarm bracer to complement my blackhole build albeit only a lvl 60 bracer.

Anyway, I am still running wiz as my main though I have a barb and a DH that are decently equipped. wiz too much power yaw~
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:11 AM

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Frozen Orb is nice but it's only best when enemy is at the area of blast, fast moving enemy usually escapes those.

Sometimes in the midst of heavy action, can't even see where the mouse cursor is at, direction all mixed up and waste arcane.
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:52 AM

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A well timed black hole could help with that fast moving enemies. But there is a type of monster which eventhough has been caught in the black hole, still be able to leap to you...this is so annoying and I think it should be fixed.
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post Apr 10 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Apr 10 2014, 09:52 AM)
A well timed black hole could help with that fast moving enemies. But there is a type of monster which eventhough has been caught in the black hole, still be able to leap to you...this is so annoying and I think it should be fixed.
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My opinion:

From the way i see it, Black hole potency is to dense the enemies together and if possible one shot them especially when it boost your damage thanks to Spell Steal. I had my fair share of using this skills especially during bounty hunting and nephalem rifting.

As a defence skill, its pretty lame compare to the likes of paralysis and freeze unless paired with Temporal flux which slows the movement speed by 80%. Even then, not useful for melee wizard like me who practical spend 90% of the time and 15 yards in front of enemies. Not to mention its rendered useless against fat ass elite bosses unless you're using it to proc elemental exposure and also indirectly use temporal flux.

However, if you have great cool down bonuses + increase arcane damage skills + increase black hole damage + moderate AP reduction (i dont think it costs a bomb for your AP) + temporal flux (maybe even Arcane Dynamo), then i do agree it can be quite useful. However, not against elite mobs unless u want to proc elemental exposure. Even then, a wastage of passive skills, just for black hole which only helps u against white mobs and champion mobs where you can use Arcane Orbs + frozen storm. I'm considering to use Cold Trifecta skills in the future: Bllizard + arcane orb + frozen storm.

Anyway, i could be jibber jabbering because at the end of the day the items you have will determine the skills you are using. Not to mention, you could just switch skills in the matter of seconds since there's no cooldown when changing active skills. I'm just lazy enough to change lol.
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:27 AM

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Hi guys,
I luck out and got an SOJ with max lightning roll, stat and 4.5 cc (min).
Should I just go with it and use a lightning build (and save myself a lot of headache).
Using arcane torrent at the moment and you know RNG...
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i have been using black hole for the past few days .. and i found it quite useful in the sense of sucking enemy pack together for my ally to finish it fast ( like dh cluster arrow or barbarian avalanche) especially when in your team no other ppl is using similar "pulling skill"

nevertheless, black hole will also provide you crowd stun for 2 sec biggrin.gif

however, black hole is less effective to fat and elite monster tough
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post Apr 11 2014, 12:00 PM

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Some enchantment with my Tal's amulet. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 11 2014, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 11 2014, 12:00 PM)
Some enchantment with my Tal's amulet. biggrin.gif
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The link to your profile brah!

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post Apr 11 2014, 12:13 PM

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Any wizard here, having fun using Disintegrate?

I think its potentially a great build, not to mention if you increase your AP and reduce the cost of AP
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post Apr 11 2014, 12:17 PM

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Im a Disintegrate wizard. tongue.gif

Finally ditched my MLW as its less efficient after nerf.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MaveZai...4/hero/38482157
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post Apr 11 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 11 2014, 12:17 PM)
Im a Disintegrate wizard. tongue.gif

Finally ditched my MLW as its less efficient after nerf.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MaveZai...4/hero/38482157
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Hngggg extra 56% for disintegrate laser beam. Why dont you use the Intensity skill rune? Much better yo i believe?

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post Apr 11 2014, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 11 2014, 03:42 PM)
Hngggg extra 56% for disintegrate laser beam. Why dont you use the Intensity skill rune? Much better yo i believe?
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Audacity u means? I find Exposure does better but could'nt get a slot there, wait till i found 3rd Tal's. tongue.gif

56% + 23% arcane damage could melt normal mob 1, 2 shot in t2, efficiency for bounty and rift farming. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 11 2014, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:04 PM)
Audacity u means? I find Exposure does better but could'nt get a slot there, wait till i found 3rd Tal's. tongue.gif

56% + 23% arcane damage could melt normal mob 1, 2 shot in t2, efficiency for bounty and rift farming. biggrin.gif
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no bro, i mean the disintegrate skillz rune. The one u used is chaos nexus right? How about the final skillz runez.

23%? where the 23% come from? Yeah, actually i love elemental exposure. But i was wondering how to identify its full stack. Many people confuse about this.

I can proc it through sparkflint (fire), frozen storm (ice) and arc lightning (lightning) but the problem is my Force weapon (arcane). I'm not sure whether it will imbue arcane damage which will proc EE or not.

If can, i hope Captain Planet submerged and joins my side
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 11 2014, 04:35 PM)
no bro, i mean the disintegrate skillz rune. The one u used is chaos nexus right? How about the final skillz runez.

23%? where the 23% come from? Yeah, actually i love elemental exposure. But i was wondering how to identify its full stack. Many people confuse about this.

I can proc it through sparkflint (fire), frozen storm (ice) and arc lightning (lightning) but the problem is my Force weapon (arcane). I'm not sure whether it will imbue arcane damage which will proc EE or not.

If can, i hope Captain Planet submerged and joins my side
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18% from bracer and 5% from Tal's bonus. Chaos Nexus i felt hit further and clear faster as the extra beam deal around 3m damage. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:45 PM)
18% from bracer and 5% from Tal's bonus. Chaos Nexus i felt hit further and clear faster as the extra beam deal around 3m damage. biggrin.gif
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oh ya ya.

I think the chaos nexus very good at killing mobs too. At least it auto aim those crazy mobsters who likes to fly, jump or run around.

i bet you're aiming for Grandeur ring?
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 11 2014, 04:56 PM)
oh ya ya.

I think the chaos nexus very good at killing mobs too. At least it auto aim those crazy mobsters who likes to fly, jump or run around.

i bet you're aiming for Grandeur ring?
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Seriously and desperately. laugh.gif

Then i can swap familiar to Archon for elites and bosses.

Too bad god of RNG doesn't goes easy on it. tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 04:59 PM

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Can your wizard's specification run in T4 comfortably?
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post Apr 11 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Apr 11 2014, 04:59 PM)
@mavezai

Can your wizard's specification run in T4 comfortably?
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Never try solo on t4, rifting with friend however doable at t4.

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