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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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mavezai1984
post Apr 14 2014, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(MoMoTear @ Apr 14 2014, 03:35 AM)
anyone get mirrorball from kadala before? smile.gif
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I got 1 from her, good with conflag + MM combo. smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 14 2014, 12:15 PM)
@Wallance

If you have not found the CDR write up in battlenet yet, let me explain :
cdr has deminishing returns, meaning the graph isnt a straight line, it curves downwards.

eg : if your are running evoc(20%) , captain's set(10%) and have a diamond gem (12.5%),
that would be 42.5% cdr theoretically, but it doesnt work that way.
Heres the formula :
1-(1-a)(1-b)(1-c) : where a,b,c is the percentage of cdr u have. In this case it will be 0.20 for evoc, 0.10 for captain and 0.125 for diamond.

1-(0.8)(0.9)(0.875) = 0.37 (will show as 37% CDR on ur paper)

37% cdr will be your final cd reduction. If you run archon pure power, that will be :
120-20 = 100
100 x 0.63 = 63s cooldown. Take away 20s for archon uptime that will only leave you with 43s of vulnerability.
I hope this helps some ppl out thr.
Now Wallance can u share the t6 solo wiz with frozen mist build?

@Pein
AoE damage is sick i heard, but it is purely for aoe. If there is only 1 mob you have 20% chance to proc. In a situation of 10mobs and when u fire your arcane orb --> pass 1st mob = boom, pass 4th mob = boom, pass 7th mob = boom again. In a nutshell : it has a chance to proc everytime ur spell hits a monster. So the damage deal is actually exponential to number of mobs present. Correct me if im wrong.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12032383478
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I see, maybe i will spend the points in later stage as im focusing more on Arcane reduction and increase my Arcane pool source.

At this stage in TII and TIII, find it quite alright with the current frozen orbs + frost hydra.

Yeah wallance, frozen mist build prease :3
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post Apr 14 2014, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 14 2014, 12:15 PM)
@Wallance

If you have not found the CDR write up in battlenet yet, let me explain :
cdr has deminishing returns, meaning the graph isnt a straight line, it curves downwards.

eg : if your are running evoc(20%) , captain's set(10%) and have a diamond gem (12.5%),
that would be 42.5% cdr theoretically, but it doesnt work that way.
Heres the formula :
1-(1-a)(1-b)(1-c) : where a,b,c is the percentage of cdr u have. In this case it will be 0.20 for evoc, 0.10 for captain and 0.125 for diamond.

1-(0.8)(0.9)(0.875) = 0.37 (will show as 37% CDR on ur paper)

37% cdr will be your final cd reduction. If you run archon pure power, that will be :
120-20 = 100
100 x 0.63 = 63s cooldown. Take away 20s for archon uptime that will only leave you with 43s of vulnerability.
I hope this helps some ppl out thr.
Now Wallance can u share the t6 solo wiz with frozen mist build?

@Pein
AoE damage is sick i heard, but it is purely for aoe. If there is only 1 mob you have 20% chance to proc. In a situation of 10mobs and when u fire your arcane orb --> pass 1st mob = boom, pass 4th mob = boom, pass 7th mob = boom again. In a nutshell : it has a chance to proc everytime ur spell hits a monster. So the damage deal is actually exponential to number of mobs present. Correct me if im wrong.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12032383478
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Very clear now. Thanks.
T5/T6 is about AR/Armor for primary. 2ndary is life after kill/health globe. I used to pump a lot of dps like once reached 1.1m dps. but defensive is bad. now unbuff dps only 970k dps but have a lot of armor/AR to survive in T5/T6. Vit is pretty much useless also. if can get it replace with AR/Armor is best. Even sacrifice cain set.. it's pretty much useless for atk speed. I use templar also give me heal.
can just view my profile below n check the build.. havent been changing. unstable abnormaly can replace for EE. Prodigy can replace with arcane dynamo if u dont mind watching the numbers before channeling ur arcane. Im just too lazy.. Even if u dont have descent gear, with this build still can manage to go at least 2 torments higher than ur usual play through.
This is a guide some where i found from google. forgot where i found it.

This post has been edited by wallance13: Apr 14 2014, 03:55 PM
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post Apr 14 2014, 03:53 PM

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I believe you can solo t5. No maybe not solo t6 bro wallance, party no doubt yes. With ur stats is it efficient t6?

Is your profile updated? You dont use illutionist nor temporal flux, nova has 11s downtime, so u just kite phasebeasts and other fast moving/teleport elites? Unless u have some specific play style i cant think of.
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post Apr 14 2014, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 14 2014, 03:53 PM)
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I believe you can solo t5. No maybe not solo t6 bro wallance, party no doubt yes. With ur stats is it efficient t6? 

Is your profile updated? You dont use illutionist nor temporal flux, nova has 11s downtime, so u just kite phasebeasts and other fast moving/teleport elites? Unless u have some specific play style i cant think of.
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Profile is updated. Here is my profile from diablo progress also http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/wallanc...llance/10715235
frozen mist is 915% damage over 8 seconds. using it to utilize tal rasha bonus meteor. pretty good damage for 915% over 8 seconds since most mobs in T6 takes longer time to kill. teleport/illusionist not a must, because usually i die in a bad situation like vortex+explotion+frozen. So i use unstable abnomaly to save me if really bad situation happen like this. They should die by then cause hardly see twice the bad situation like this in a single elite fight.

Yes for T6 have to kite a lot. but not really moving too much. As i said AR/Amor, Healthglobe/afterkill is the key to survive. I have 4 healings. 2 from templar, 2 from myself(pot/Unstable Abnomaly).
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post Apr 14 2014, 04:15 PM

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wow shocking.gif

My defensive stats are catching up with u. Mayb we can try sometime. I got 33s archon downtime now. We can work out some strat. I need to farm more with wizs now so that can exchange items easily brows.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 14 2014, 04:15 PM)
wow  shocking.gif

My defensive stats are catching up with u. Mayb we can try sometime. I got 33s archon downtime now. We can work out some strat. I need to farm more with wizs now so that can exchange items easily  brows.gif
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Ya.. I prefer other builds if i can find other parts of tal rasha/vyr. can replace gear and follow with different build.
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post Apr 14 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 14 2014, 04:15 PM)
wow  shocking.gif

My defensive stats are catching up with u. Mayb we can try sometime. I got 33s archon downtime now. We can work out some strat. I need to farm more with wizs now so that can exchange items easily  brows.gif
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what is ur CDR on sheet now ?

who else is playing wow build in lyn ?
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post Apr 14 2014, 05:06 PM

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47% rounding off.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Thales-1564/hero/7766445

I think you are the only clanmate that owns a WoW so far. Pls dont screw up your build pls dont let us hate u biggrin.gif

Must get :
1. born's shoulder and chest - born's key frm a1 cemetry (o'dell digger)
2. aughild helm and brac - shards plate frm a1 cemetry(dunhlyn ghost) or fastering woods(purple ghost)
3. captain's pant and belt - essense of twin sea from black canyon/severs(razortooth) or in campaign mode(stinging winds-google urself)
4. Royal ring a1 cache bag ONLY.
*thats quite close to 50% cdr in paper.

flame blade-increase 1% fire dmg for every enemies hit for 10s. At 1.5atk per sec and 3 elites you can easily maintain 45% increase fire skills dmg throughtout the fight.
tp
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event horizon
prismatic
deflection or frost nova cold snap(cm wiz stutter lock elites with nova and event horizon)
-blur
-evoc
-audacity
-unwavering will
*you dont need illutionist bcos u got great cdr

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http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/yimingw...bwainz/41103476

Work in progress. Any idea what gear upgrades should I go for other than Frostburn gloves?
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QUOTE(Davy123 @ Apr 14 2014, 05:06 PM)
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47% rounding off.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Thales-1564/hero/7766445

I think you are the only clanmate that owns a WoW so far. Pls dont screw up your build pls dont let us hate u  biggrin.gif

Must get :
1. born's shoulder and chest - born's key frm a1 cemetry (o'dell digger)
2. aughild helm and brac - shards plate frm a1 cemetry(dunhlyn ghost) or fastering woods(purple ghost)
3. captain's pant and belt - essense of twin sea from black canyon/severs(razortooth) or in campaign mode(stinging winds-google urself)
4. Royal ring a1 cache bag ONLY.
*thats quite close to 50% cdr in paper.

flame blade-increase 1% fire dmg for every enemies hit for 10s. At 1.5atk per sec and 3 elites you can easily maintain 45% increase fire skills dmg throughtout the fight.
tp
eb
event horizon
prismatic
deflection or frost nova cold snap(cm wiz stutter lock elites with nova and event horizon)
-blur
-evoc
-audacity
-unwavering will
*you dont need illutionist bcos u got great cdr
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very great info .. i just crafted captain shoe ...
UR blizzard id is thales ? @@ thumbup.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(wallance13 @ Apr 14 2014, 04:03 PM)
Profile is updated. Here is my profile from diablo progress also http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/wallanc...llance/10715235
frozen mist is 915% damage over 8 seconds. using it to utilize tal rasha bonus meteor. pretty good damage for 915% over 8 seconds since most mobs in T6 takes longer time to kill. teleport/illusionist not a must, because usually i die in a bad situation like vortex+explotion+frozen. So i use unstable abnomaly to save me if really bad situation happen like this. They should die by then cause hardly see twice the bad situation like this in a single elite fight.

Yes for T6 have to kite a lot. but not really moving too much. As i said AR/Amor, Healthglobe/afterkill is the key to survive. I have 4 healings. 2 from templar, 2 from myself(pot/Unstable Abnomaly).
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wallance, how's the meteor from tal rasha bonus? I think you're the only here with all the full set bonuses
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post Apr 14 2014, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 14 2014, 07:12 PM)
wallance, how's the meteor from tal rasha bonus? I think you're the only here with all the full set bonuses
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I need 1 more since no Royal Ring available. ><

I think meteor should hit for 10~15m crit at least.
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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Apr 14 2014, 08:00 PM)
I need 1 more since no Royal Ring available. ><

I think meteor should hit for 10~15m crit at least.
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It's avg 8-10m.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 14 2014, 07:12 PM)
wallance, how's the meteor from tal rasha bonus? I think you're the only here with all the full set bonuses
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like 10m.

if fire meteor i see a lot of 3-4m.
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mine hitting around 6m only. ya fire meteor abt 3m+.. extra damage is good. those meteors are cool. at least this is one of the most possible set to be obtain.. compare to the firebird.. which is giving super random stats and need like 5 pieces of it.. ouch..
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 14 2014, 08:55 AM)
they are characters like monks, crusaders and barbs i believe?

If im paragorning from 100-200, i dont think i want to waste my points on Area damage first.

Maybe in later paragorn level.
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nope. i read it at the wizard forum . they say is like if you use any spell, any of it will got a flat 20% to deal area damage to x yards.

seems to me is extra damage

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QUOTE(Y.K. @ Apr 14 2014, 09:44 PM)
like 10m.

if fire meteor i see a lot of 3-4m.
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Firing rainbow from the sky.

QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 15 2014, 08:22 AM)
nope. i read it at the wizard forum . they say is like if you use any spell, any of it will got a flat 20% to deal area damage to x yards.

seems to me is extra damage
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i see. Then i may consider paragorn 200 and above.

Dont know why feel redundant with such paragorn skills. Felt like, frozen orb + hydra or blizzard settle most of the AoE issue.

By the way i think x yard = 10 yard. So max it will be 50% damage distribute to 10 yard.

I think its more to extra damage distributed around but if Davy123 explained is correct, where it exponentially distributed by X number of enemies. FuHHH!
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post Apr 15 2014, 09:32 AM

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I think meteors are fabulous for its burst damge. I got 3 sets + lord of the rings but my tal rasha amulet suck, i only see 6m frm comet. Hope to get a good one soon.

I improvise this frm wallance's old build smile.gif
If you run 4 elements (disintegrate/AT, archon, tp, sparkflint, deflection, frozen storm) you get 4 meteors if you use a lightning weapon.

In a sustained battle >16s ,the meteors are not burst dmg. Averaging 4 meteor dmg u get 2000% weapon damage over a cdr of 8s => 250% weapon dmg per sec provided your meteors hit the elite. Thats similar to legacy MLW.
Put in elemental exposure u buff your team by 20% dmg. Sick damage.

But its anoying u cast meteors when u break barrels and doors.

@yiming
I think you really need a cold strongarm bracers since u play blackhole(blackhole procs knockback which is +30% bonus dmg frm that bracer for 5s).
I never tried azure + LoG before. What do u think of black ice? can it beat archons in terms of comfort and destroying elites.
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Hi i have 1 question here o.0
I just got a fire bird orb, and it seems like it could not be Transmog
is this a bug?

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