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 Monk Discussion V3, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!

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shin6619
post Oct 12 2012, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 12 2012, 02:20 PM)
DH tank with legacy nats and spamming gloom, without that they can't "tank"
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Ya, u r rite. But every character got their own skill to tank. When blizzard wan to neff the skill, every players angry. That's why?
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post Oct 12 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 12 2012, 02:47 PM)
My DH EHP last update is 491,311.
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/shin-6679/ShiN/955543
EHP 491,311 maybe no enough for barb or monk but for DH more than enough..
I play worn many barb or monk in public game, they still die when stand on fire, poison or arcane exspecial black water by Azmodan but me still ok after cast gloom.
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pubs doh.gif

if i play in pubs, dont talk about elites. DH dies to any and everything including white mobs

you r an exception to that

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post Oct 12 2012, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 12 2012, 02:52 PM)
Ya, u r rite. But every character got their own skill to tank. When blizzard wan to neff the skill, every players angry. That's why?
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For your info., my 2H Skorn frenzy wielding barb doesn't even need to shout out War Cry and Battle Rage to whack the mobs to pieces.

It can also kill 1 elite pack without WotB or ww activation, just need frenzy and Overpower will do sufficiently but take time la.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 12 2012, 03:04 PM
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post Oct 12 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 12 2012, 02:48 PM)
i agree what is mentioned up there about barbs, ww barbs doesnt tank. all they do is spin around everywhere.  that build only benefit himself/herself in coop games. it's not much of difference for them to solo or go in co-op games actually. only thing good u can get is the warcry. in most games they are always rushing and move to new pack, they dont care and bother if the mobs are cleared or not.
it's a good build to level fast, not a good build to play and actually help in coop games.
although there are actually good ww barbs also i've met, other than that mostly disappointing.
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this!!!....b4 patch 1.04 they are quite useful bcuz they lead patiently for others to follow....

but after they were buffed up...all end up doing WW barb..and heck most of the time they were annoying....left team mate behind...jump into the middle of fray..forget us the ranges char at back...just to WW in the middle..while creep at the end...swarmed us at the edges....

and most of the time...the powerful ones clear the map for themselves ....and we are sometimes confused whether the a side of a map has been cleared or not..thus wasting our time just to checkout....cuz affraid we might left behind a lagendary

all of this make them just not suitable to become a tank anymore...and mostly this happened in public games..

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post Oct 12 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 12 2012, 02:54 PM)
pubs  doh.gif

if i play in pubs, dont talk about elites. DH dies to any and everything including white mobs
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Ya, DH really like a paper. Justnow play in public with a monk (wear shield). We fight Azmodan together. After Azmodan half life, it cast black water. The monk running away for the black water but I still stand in front of Azmodan and finish it before monk come back. Tanker = only standing there and hit.
Haha.
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post Oct 12 2012, 03:00 PM

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What is EHP?? hahaha... my one

EHP 504,004.35
EHP w/ Dodge 882,824.22
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post Oct 12 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 12 2012, 02:58 PM)
Ya, DH really like a paper. Justnow play in public with a monk (wear shield). We fight Azmodan together. After Azmodan half life, it cast black water. The monk running away for the black water but I still stand in front of Azmodan and finish it before monk come back. Tanker = only standing there and hit.
Haha.
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and the monk equipment is same value standard as urs i might say?...my monk with shield can tank azmodan in public...

heck even my DH..with gloom not so superior as u equipment can tank azmodan in public...just need allress 700++ LOH bow 400 LS 2.8....got to say DH gloom is very powerful tool indeed ...

my DH equipment?...copy paste my monk equipment lol..

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 12 2012, 03:00 PM)
What is EHP?? hahaha... my one

EHP 504,004.35
EHP w/ Dodge 882,824.22
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to sum it up. its basically how much damage u can take before ur dead tongue.gif
the higher the figure the better
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post Oct 12 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2012, 02:52 PM)
that is true in the sense that there is nothing to tank. dead mobs don't need tanking, aye?
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agree on that point, was so happy when barbs are just melting everything down as they go.
but in public games, very few barbs wipe down the mobs by just spinning around.
i have met strong ww barbs, and the truth is, they are already that strong, they farm so fast and by joining public games will only slow them down. most of them go solo only.

most ww barbs in coop games are only at average level. some dps class are fairly weak, having a ww barb doesn't really help in most cases. mobs run around and scatter the dps classes.
well, different players see it differently maybe.

for me,
standing tank > running tank
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By the way, my 2H skorn wielding barb can tank Azmodan and kill it without running away also.

It has also obtained the Self Sufficient achievement challenge by beating Diablo in Act 4 (inferno) without taking any health globes, wells or potions at all. No kiting is involved and was done with my barb standing on one spot, period.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 12 2012, 03:21 PM
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post Oct 12 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 12 2012, 03:09 PM)
well, different players see it differently maybe.

for me,
standing tank > running tank
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well i was a full time tank when inferno was a brick wall wut, i still have a few pieces of tanking gear too sayang to sell LOL

so yeah, i can see where you're coming from wink.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
and the monk equipment is same value standard as urs i might say?...my monk with shield can tank azmodan in public...

heck even my DH..with gloom not so superior as u equipment can tank azmodan in public...just need allress 700++ LOH bow 400 LS 2.8....got to say DH gloom is very powerful tool indeed ...

my DH equipment?...copy paste my monk equipment lol..
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Emm, tanker must got high loh and ias. Tank DH tank use grenade gas to tank last time but me use hungering arrow..
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Im barb hybrid build here, mostly I was saw really tanker is the monk, sometime depends co -op wht hero n their ply style also ,helping each other or not ,lets say ww barb had alot plyer going co-op team but no teamwork at all, ww barb can ww spin like selfish ...
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 12 2012, 03:00 PM)
What is EHP??
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effective hp


Added on October 12, 2012, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 12 2012, 03:10 PM)
By the way, my 2H skorn wielding barb can tank Azmodan and kill it without running away also.

It has also obtained the Self Sufficient achievement challenge by beating Diablo in Act 4 (inferno) without taking any health globes, wells or potions at all. No kiting is involved and was done with my barb standing on one spot, period.
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your barb's almighty, we get it. smile.gif

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post Oct 12 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 12 2012, 03:50 PM)
Im barb hybrid build here, mostly I was saw really tanker is the monk, sometime depends co -op wht hero n their ply style also ,helping each other or not ,lets say ww barb had alot plyer going co-op team but no teamwork at all, ww barb can ww spin like selfish ...
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agree with you..ystdy play coop with fren's bro, 1 monk, 2DH, 1barb, his barb just busy spinning everywhere by himself..too fast for us to catch.. he is awesome but not really protecting us..haha..

even got elites, also dunno where he spin to liao.. only left me to protect the 2 other DH from getting killed..haha. The DHs really tauhu white mob hit also die fast.. doh.gif laugh.gif




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post Oct 12 2012, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2012, 03:55 PM)
effective hp


Added on October 12, 2012, 3:57 pm

your barb's almighty, we get it. smile.gif
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There're actually much better geared character class by at least 3x than mine, that's the real fact and for sure.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 12 2012, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 12 2012, 01:52 PM)
Well, is Barb a good tanker? WW barb run around, so he does not tank. throwing barb kill in range, so he does not tank either.
Monk had to exchange fists no matter how. So isn't obvious the answer?


Added on October 12, 2012, 1:54 pmDH tank? the glory of tank DH had passed.
WD tank? his pet tank.
WZ tank? incoming nerf in frozen build.
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Just to add.
Among all classes of heroes, none has the tons of healing skills (both active and passive skills) like the monk.

Yes, monk has to tank. laugh.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 04:38 PM

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post Oct 12 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 12 2012, 04:36 PM)
There're actually much better geared character class by at least 3x than mine, that's the real fact and for sure.
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theres better geared people than the people that are 3x better geared than you.

your point?
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if only monk heal skill scales of % instead of fixed numbers..

blizzard..blizzard..

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