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post Nov 12 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Nov 12 2012, 11:38 AM)
i got that when I was PL5X onli... bcos i love to pickup gold..
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i ignore them most of the time lol.. u can see when we were farming together. i just aim kill, and then run.
my habit was to pick pots only. i have like 8stacks now dont konw what to do with it lol laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Nov 12 2012, 11:33 AM)
lol...ayam setup for lower MP fast farming... i love pickup radius too...thats why i already got that "pickup 100m gold award" lol...
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pickup radius 28? this is a real farming machine, u just need to move a bit only to get both gold and health globes sweat.gif
i had sacrificed pickup radius to adjust my armor, resist, etc. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 12 2012, 11:38 AM)
Agreed. Loh works best when vs shielding Mobs. LS works against everythingelse!!!!. Once your DPS goes beyond 100k..LS is the way to go..as the return is so much better.

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hard to get good high dps weapon with LS..envy those Barbarian, can get 3% LS from belt and 3% more from passive..


Added on November 12, 2012, 11:44 am
QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 12 2012, 11:40 AM)
i ignore them most of the time lol.. u can see when we were farming together. i just aim kill, and then run.
my habit was to pick pots only. i have like 8stacks now dont konw what to do with it lol  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Nov 12 2012, 11:41 AM)
pickup radius 28? this is a real farming machine, u just need to move a bit only to get both gold and health globes sweat.gif
i had sacrificed pickup radius to adjust my armor, resist, etc.  sweat.gif
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at least can get 600-800k gold from full act3 run... at least something la...even cant sell those crap loot at AH... no need much armor and resist in lower MPs..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Nov 12 2012, 11:44 AM
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Nov 12 2012, 11:41 AM)
hard to get good high dps weapon with LS..envy those Barbarian, can get 3% LS from belt and 3% more from passive..
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Nothing that mastercard cant help..lol. But yes...LS stuff is damn exp, just see a socketed Echo with LS..siow prices. I managed to buy a 1026 DPS mace with 2.9LS with 174Vit and OS for 15M which I think its overpriced.sad.gif. Bought it because it had min max damage as it complements my WKL. Now paperdoll damage 85k..but heck I am sure I am hitting harder than that..smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:48 AM

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Blizzard nerf the drop too bad i think... good 1-h veryyy hard to get now..
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:49 AM

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i should prolly get pickup radius set for farming low mp
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 12 2012, 11:49 AM)
i should prolly get pickup radius set for farming low mp
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yea lol...i see 3k gold piles often now..even in MP5, i bring my pickup gears lol...

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post Nov 12 2012, 11:55 AM

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post Nov 12 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Nov 12 2012, 11:09 AM)
@yuhhaur,
ok, next time will bench again azmodan & sb. thanks. smile.gif
and normally you are farming in which MP level?


Added on November 12, 2012, 11:10 am

how many hours per run?
yaya.. i also notice that need to do whole map for loots. and it's always drop from tiny mobs.
i got 2 legendary drop from open box  shocking.gif
eventhough it is crappy but still felt exciting when see the light, at least not making the farming so bore
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I do MP4 mostly in solo, coop maybe mp5.


Added on November 12, 2012, 1:21 pmLS%5.8%+LoH2000 FTW, only down side is not hitting 100k dps


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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 12 2012, 11:55 AM)
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post Nov 12 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 12 2012, 11:55 AM)
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post Nov 12 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 12 2012, 10:59 AM)
MP10 is easy if you have 5%LS+2kLoH. just facetank.

Yes I would have to agree that elites are another story.

Now I do my benchmark with SB/Azmodan instead of Ghom.
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hi.. may i know any way can achieve that?

LS only available on weapons right? so assume 2 weapons with total 5% LS

so LoH will be on amulet + 2 rings? 800 + 600 + 600?
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post Nov 12 2012, 03:08 PM

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max 1-h LS is 3%. so if 2= 6% max LS
amulet=9xx LoH max
ring=4xx-5xx LoH
set pants=4xx LoH
weapon 1-H=9xx LoH

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
hi.. may i know any way can achieve that?

LS only available on weapons right? so assume 2 weapons with total 5% LS

so LoH will be on amulet + 2 rings? 800 + 600 + 600?
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Weapons can have both LS & LOH, coexist.
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
hi.. may i know any way can achieve that?

LS only available on weapons right? so assume 2 weapons with total 5% LS

so LoH will be on amulet + 2 rings? 800 + 600 + 600?
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http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-...maximum-values/

There. This is excluded those legendary


Added on November 12, 2012, 3:17 pmDual Wield max LoH 3,835 drool.gif


Added on November 12, 2012, 3:19 pm
QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
hi.. may i know any way can achieve that?

LS only available on weapons right? so assume 2 weapons with total 5% LS

so LoH will be on amulet + 2 rings? 800 + 600 + 600?
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Sorry for bringing misunderstanding, I meant MP10 Ghom is easy. Not others as I am still struggling on other bosses.

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post Nov 12 2012, 03:25 PM

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will that be pretty pricey for a weapon with LoH + LS? (and also crit dmg? either socketed or fixed affix)


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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Nov 12 2012, 03:08 PM)
max 1-h LS is 3%. so if 2= 6% max LS
amulet=9xx LoH max
ring=4xx-5xx LoH
set pants=4xx LoH
weapon 1-H=9xx LoH
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ic.. sorry i'm not a monk player so not much familiar with LS/LoH.. so which set that gives LoH?

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post Nov 12 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 12 2012, 03:25 PM)
will that be pretty pricey for a weapon with LoH + LS? (and also crit dmg? either socketed or fixed affix)
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Yes it will..but IMHO..just skip LoH on weapons as you can get it from jewelries or lagendaries armor. Focus on LS as that is the only stats we (apart from Barb) gets from weapon only.

Loh is great if you are mid tiered. Once you reach end game...LS will out point LoH. As yauhar mentioned max LoH is 3k plus..whereas LS there is NO ceiling. The more DPS you dish, the more life you gain. And for a 100k Monk crtting at 200-300k crits/ 500k -800k from 7SS, LS is a much better for regaining life.

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 12 2012, 03:25 PM)
will that be pretty pricey for a weapon with LoH + LS? (and also crit dmg? either socketed or fixed affix)
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It depends on what kind of DPS you want to achieve.

If you wanna build a 60K DPS monk, it's very cheap for LOH+LS gears.
If you wanna build a 70-90K DPS monk, the high damage weapon with LOH+LS will cost you a lot of gold.
If you wanna build a 100K DPS monk, it is difficult because it very rare to have high damage weapon with LOH+LS. And those weapons could cost you few hundred millions gold.

(note: LOH weapons that i mentioned above are those with at least 850 LOH).
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 12 2012, 03:30 PM)
It depends on what kind of DPS you want to achieve.

If you wanna build a 60K DPS monk, it's very cheap for LOH+LS gears. those 700+ dps items, I got mine @ 2-5mil
If you wanna build a 70-90K DPS monk, the high damage weapon with LOH+LS will cost you a lot of gold.  those 900+ dps items, got mine @ 26.5mil & LoH only 700+
If you wanna build a 100K DPS monk, it is difficult because it very rare to have high damage weapon with LOH+LS. And those weapons could cost you few hundred millions gold.  those 900+++++ dps items, with 70%CD + socketed, AH shopping rarely seen, if see also starting from 100+ mil

(note: LOH weapons that i mentioned above are those with at least 850 LOH).
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reinforcing ALeUNe's point in what to look for in AH.

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post Nov 12 2012, 03:46 PM

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ic.. thanks to all monk sifu here..

seems like it's not fair as barb is the only one who can wear mighty belt.. imba imba laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 12 2012, 03:30 PM)
Yes it will..but IMHO..just skip LoH on weapons as you can get it from jewelries or lagendaries armor. Focus on LS as that is the only stats we (apart from Barb) gets from weapon only.

Loh is great if you are mid tiered. Once you reach end game...LS will out point LoH. As yauhar mentioned max LoH is 3k plus..whereas LS there is NO ceiling. The more DPS you dish, the more life you gain. And for a 100k Monk crtting at 200-300k crits/ 500k -800k from 7SS, LS is a much better for regaining life.
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I have a 93K DPS monk (crit 200K is normal).
I tested weapons with 5.6% LS (just LS from 2 weapons, no LOH from other gears). I died a lot @ MP9 in co-op game.
Tried different mantras too (MoC/MoH/MoE). Didn't work well.

For my case, LS is not quite enough to deliver the life recovery I need.

(Note: I swapped back LOH gears, 2.7K LOH in total, and I got back the "better survival" in MP9. But I lost DPS due to change of gears).

So, I think 100K DPS is not quite enough to let the LS shine.
I may need 150K DPS (or more?) to have the LS worked optimally.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Nov 12 2012, 04:01 PM

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