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post Feb 17 2006, 02:32 AM, updated 20y ago

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It happenned to me finally altho i always hope i wont meet this kind of situation..

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very sad indeed...


I stop the car on the street then the car in front moved and run over a cat...

then the cat jumped many times in pain and the blood gushing out....

I was shocked..then i came down...

almost wanna cry... sad.gif

the cat almost half dead...I got 2 option...as i dont have euthanasia which i always wanted to get one for emergency......

Either i run over the cat till it is dead or i just pull it to the road side...

Very sad..what will u do if u were me?

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post Feb 17 2006, 02:42 AM

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very sad...very hard to imagine...

so what did you do?

Once, I saw this kitten got knocked by a car. Ask my bro to pick it up and we went to vet but by that time its already dead..but in my case, blood only comes out from its nose and ears, only internal bleeding...

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post Feb 17 2006, 02:47 AM

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what can u do? there is nothing u can do ... its just roadkill

dont tell me u wanna go pick it up and sent to veterinarian ...

the only thing u can do is dont swerve the car left or right, just go over it in the middle and avoid hitting it

i once saw this bloody fellow trying to avoid hitting it by going to the left, that fella almost bang a motorcyclist ... imagine avoid hitting a cat and end up hitting a biker ...


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man... that sounds gross..
I think I will just let the dog meet its faith... sorry.
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I was driving once then i saw this one lady and her family driving a Toyota Prado 4x4 ran over a stray dog...She doesn't even stop and the dog cried like hell (turn here turn there)...Then my maid say if her family happen to pass thru the place that time, they'll stop and take the injured dog back to ehemmm be cook shocking.gif
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personally i dint see accidents like that happened before...well if i were to see anyone that runs over an animal then run off...(hit & run) i'll throw any stone handy to me that moment...there's this once a guy that knocked my dog...(she ran out) i saw her flew to the side...fortunatly nothing happened...i dint catch the guy that did it also coz i was too worried bout my dog...
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Its hard to avoid hitting because hard to predict where it would run because it's scared. Sometimes when we go left to avoid, it also goes left to run, we go right, it goes right..when we try to avoid by going over it in the middle they may still run and get hit by the back tires..but dogs how you gonna avoid? my advice is don't drive fast so you can have time to stop the car and avoid hitting the animal...
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try and play more gta:vice city or san andreas and you won't feel so sad
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post Feb 17 2006, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 17 2006, 02:32 AM)
It happenned to me finally altho i always hope i wont meet this kind of situation..

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very sad indeed...
I stop the car on the street then the car in front moved and run over a cat...

then the cat jumped many times in pain and the blood gushing out....

I was shocked..then i came down...

almost wanna cry... sad.gif

the cat almost half dead...I got 2 option...as i dont have euthanasia which i always wanted to get one for emergency......

Either i run over the cat till it is dead or i just pull it to the road side...

Very sad..what will u do if u were me?
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I understand your feeling...
I met this kind of incident once. I was driving and the road was clear. I didn't see anything in front but all of sudden, I heard some sound coming out from my back tire. I thought I just ran through a stone or a hole. Unfortunately, I was wrong... I looked at by back mirror and saw an animal struggling. I stoped my car immediately to have a look on what is going on. I actually ran through a kitten which just ran underneath my car. cry.gif I came to realize why the kitten ran underneath my car later when I saw the mother, the kitten was playing with the mother and accident ran out. The mother looked at the struggling kitten. I felt so sorry to the mother. I was there until the last moment of the kitten. I also realize that it wouldn't make it to the vet. It just past away in a few minutes. cry.gif

After the kitten past away, I drove back and find some digger. I returned to the kitten and burried it nearby. I was so shock that day and I almost caught a few accident...may the poor soul rest in peace cry.gif

QUOTE(earl-ku @ Feb 17 2006, 02:47 AM)
what can u do? there is nothing u can do ... its just roadkill

dont tell me u wanna go pick it up and sent to veterinarian ...

the only thing u can do is dont swerve the car left or right, just go over it in the middle and avoid hitting it

i once saw this bloody fellow trying to avoid hitting it by going to the left, that fella almost bang a motorcyclist ... imagine avoid hitting a cat and end up hitting a biker ...
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Well, I wouldn't agree with you. Animals are innocent but not human. I would rather avoid an animal and knock the motorcyclist instead. There are a few reason why I do so...

1.) I can repay back if it is not a serious accident.
2.) If that accident involve life, I still can repay my sin in the jail.
3.) Human is the worst...

What if the fact is turn the other way round...
I ran through the animal, I don't care and I got through with it. I sin a lot that cannot repay. I would turn up to be the worst idiot!



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post Feb 17 2006, 09:41 AM

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Stray dogs may bite if you touch them when they are in pain/injured. Sometimes have to consider, if you see someone run over a stray animal and you take it to vet, who will care for the animal after that? You cant just release it on the road again, it might need medical care for a while. Hard choice to make, good thing I have not come accross this situation before, but if I'm the one that did it, I'll try my best to save the animal
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probably cry and curse

I've never witnessed the accident when it happened before.. just the remains of the poor creatures.
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 17 2006, 09:32 AM)
I understand your feeling...
I met this kind of incident once. I was driving and the road was clear. I didn't see anything in front but all of sudden, I heard some sound coming out from my back tire. I thought I just ran through a stone or a hole. Unfortunately, I was wrong... I looked at by back mirror and saw an animal struggling. I stoped my car immediately to have a look on what is going on. I actually ran through a kitten which just ran underneath my car.  cry.gif I came to realize why the kitten ran underneath my car later when I saw the mother, the kitten was playing with the mother and accident ran out. The mother looked at the struggling kitten. I felt so sorry to the mother. I was there until the last moment of the kitten. I also realize that it wouldn't make it to the vet. It just past away in a few minutes.  cry.gif

After the kitten past away, I drove back and find some digger. I returned to the kitten and burried it nearby. I was so shock that day and I almost caught a few accident...may the poor soul rest in peace  cry.gif
Well, I wouldn't agree with you. Animals are innocent but not human. I would rather avoid an animal and knock the motorcyclist instead. There are a few reason why I do so...

1.) I can repay back if it is not a serious accident.
2.) If that accident involve life, I still can repay my sin in the jail.
3.) Human is the worst...


What if the fact is turn the other way round...
I ran through the animal, I don't care and I got through with it. I sin a lot that cannot repay. I would turn up to be the worst idiot!
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if u hit a human , maybe its someone husband, wife , auntie , uncle , son, daughter, daughter, niece, nephew. someone will be sad . what if your family got killed this way ? how would u feel ? when the motorist explain to you that he swerved his car to avoid a dog but hit and kill your dad instead ?

and yeah i seen my share of pets getting run over.... like my mom or dad run over our own cat.... 2-3 cats i think ... quite sad..... burried it in our back yard... accident happens human or animals its sad to see it.


p.s: i dont mean to offend anyone with this post . im sorry if it does . unsure.gif



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post Feb 17 2006, 12:38 PM

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I once saw a women driving a car then hit a cat, the cat was hit at his hind leg...I dont know exactly how....it happen near my home...
I was in my car too....I just watch the women open the door to look what have she knocked and closed the door back ready to go....
I just gazed and looked directly to her....she then went out of her car....drag the poor cat to the side...then drove off....

I parked my car in my house, then go back to find the cat..but cannot find him...I wonder how he move, is he dead, bleeding or what???
I just wonder...Next day, my friend call, told me saw the cat, back leg totally cannot work...he drag himself with his 2 front leg...my friend took him, try giving food but he dont want, he put gamat oil around his leg cause already got some white 'ulat' around there....

Pity la....when I came home...he's not there anymore...then never saw him again....

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I've never been in this kind of situation before, but Im sure I will cry when I see those situation... as there's nothing much I can do..
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i went over a dead cat once at 100kmh.
it was not on purpose as I couldnt avoid it. going over a dead cat at that speed feels asthough you're driving over a pothole filled with water...i could hear the splash sound.
i had to take my car to the car wash later to clean the blood stains.
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I once saw a cat got hit by a vehicle. It was still alive and kinda crawling in its grotesque state, with blood all over. I being the kind hearted soul, ended it's life by rolling over it, since i was driving behind the said vehicle; squishing the life out of it. I was damn proud that i was able to help ease the pain of the cat by ending it's miserable life .
The only drawback was that the ungrateful cat decided to leave a patch of hair on my tires which were a pain to wash off.
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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Feb 17 2006, 11:57 AM)
if u hit a human , maybe its someone husband, wife , auntie , uncle , son, daughter, daughter, niece, nephew.  someone will be sad .  what if your family got killed this way ?  how would u feel ?  when the motorist explain to you that he swerved his car to avoid a dog but hit and kill your dad instead ?

and yeah i seen my share of pets getting run over....  like my mom or dad run over our own cat.... 2-3 cats i think ...  quite sad.....  burried it in our back yard...  accident happens human or animals its sad to see it. 
p.s: i dont mean to offend anyone with this post . im sorry if it does .    unsure.gif
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Both of us stand a different point of view. Those feeling is you feel for yourself. Try bringing the feeling in the animal world... won't you think it would be the same? Nobody feel for them doesn't mean you can take for granted.

There are no right wrong or right, black or white between our point of view. It is a grey area which won't give a clear solution forever...

Well, I understand very clear before I made the statements above. I also predicted someone will sure to reply it. I already have the same thought as you very long time ago but I have the conclusion which I think is the best. You just have to think about it yourself. There is nothing worth of prolong this arguement between which is right, which is wrong... just think...

P/S: Don't worry, you didn't offend me as I already know the answer before hand... try to stand on my point of view and think why I think the different way.
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sad.gif I don't think I can take the stress of running over an animal... but sometimes no choice coz the animal sometimes just run in front and cannot avoid.

It's more important what you do after the accident... for me I would stop to see what can be done to help or if hopeless case put the animal out of it's misery.

Sad but it's a fact of life... just have to remind myself to drive carefully and not speed.

Please be careful if you decide to help an injured animal because you could get hurt also. Best if you got a towel try to cover/wrap the animal before lifting it.




Touchwood I have never run over an animal yet, altho got few near misses. I was either able to stop, slow down so the animal can get away or safely avoid the animal sweat.gif Praise the Lord! notworthy.gif

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I remember many many years ago back when I was in secondary school i was at a friend's house at night. There was this stray dog with 3-4 puppies around her. I was thinking to myself "HOW CUTE! If only I can bring one home!"

Shortly after that thought left my mind one of the pups ran out from the group and was in the middle of the road. A car just drove by, the pup looked up and I can see his face lit up by the head lamp of the car, and fear came to his eyes... before I can even move or say or do anything the pup already lay there motionless...

It was one of the saddest day of my life. More than 10 yrs later today I can still remember the look on the pups face... "WHATS DAT? Oh NOOOOO!"

The innocence of the pup and its fatal accident almost made me cry cry.gif

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Well there was once when i was just standard something, was going back from my cousin's house. She got a mixed dog, forget the name already. Very very cute, alot of fur, nicely comb. But abit naughty.
That day, it was trying to enter our car, and my uncle said, "i have to call 3 times only it'll return". He called once and the dog returned.
Out of the blue a merc came and knock the dog rolling under the car. It looked like all its fur came out but after i blinked, i saw no fur on the floor. Dont know whats wrong with my eyes.

The dog suffocated for air, i think the lungs were broken. And then died.

Stupid car was running at around 80 kmph in housing area.
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QUOTE(imedia @ Feb 17 2006, 02:44 PM)
I once saw a cat got hit by a vehicle. It was still alive and kinda crawling in its grotesque state, with blood all over. I being the kind hearted soul, ended it's life by rolling over it, since i was driving behind the said vehicle; squishing the life out of it. I was damn proud that i was able to help ease the pain of the cat by ending it's miserable life .
The only drawback was that the ungrateful cat decided to leave a patch of hair on my tires which were a pain to wash off.
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U have a lot of guts, I must say....

I wish I could end these animals pain....but most certainly...I'll do nothing....maybe too terrified...
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 17 2006, 09:32 AM)
Well, I wouldn't agree with you. Animals are innocent but not human. I would rather avoid an animal and knock the motorcyclist instead. There are a few reason why I do so...

1.) I can repay back if it is not a serious accident.
2.) If that accident involve life, I still can repay my sin in the jail.
3.) Human is the worst...

What if the fact is turn the other way round...
I ran through the animal, I don't care and I got through with it. I sin a lot that cannot repay. I would turn up to be the worst idiot!
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He said that the animal already got knocked down and is gona die anyway so it won't make much diff if u hit it again or not, wud probably be better if u kill it off on the spot so it won't have to suffer more.

The motorist that u may knock down cud be innocent as well, and is probably alot less likely to die anytime sooner than that animal. Ever thought of wat wud happen if the motorist had a family to feed? what if there were kids onboard? are u saying that a human life or more are worth less than a half-dead dog/cat on the road? what if u get jailed, ur fam wud be worried sick and u will suffer alot, do u really have the guts to do it or are u just all talk?

not saying that u are wrong cz im noe u dont wana hear that, jz wondering if u ever thought about stuff like that.

my thoughts:

-u must be a sadist if u'd let a suffering animal that's gona die anyway suffer longer
-u must be even more sadistic to risk someone elses life or a few ppls' lives just so u can let a suffering animal that's gona die anyway suffer longer
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also, even if the animal was not knocked down in the 1st place, u must be pretty sick to hit a motorist(esp a motorcyclist) just to avoid it.

Got another qs for u, what if u have no way of avoiding an animal on the road unless u swerve to the other lane and go head on with a trailer?
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ai..talk about this, yesterday when i was lepaking in mamak, i saw a small black kitten playing around alone, then after that run to middle of road and then one motorcycle pass by and go through this poor car, then this cat head senget alittle bit when tyre goes by, at that moment my heart aches and tot this poor fella going to die,cos the kitten look so innocent and cute, and i shouted kinda loud, embrassing, but then...the cat seem notin after that, rest at one place, then 5 mins later go other place bek...haha
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QUOTE(kennfreeloader @ Feb 18 2006, 09:42 AM)
He said that the animal already got knocked down and is gona die anyway so it won't make much diff if u hit it again or not, wud probably be better if u kill it off on the spot so it won't have to suffer more.

The motorist that u may knock down cud be innocent as well, and is probably alot less likely to die anytime sooner than that animal. Ever thought of wat wud happen if the motorist had a family to feed? what if there were kids onboard? are u saying that a human life or more are worth less than a half-dead dog/cat on the road? what if u get jailed, ur fam wud be worried sick and u will suffer alot, do u really have the guts to do it or are u just all talk?

not saying that u are wrong cz im noe u dont wana hear that, jz wondering if u ever thought about stuff like that.

my thoughts:

-u must be a sadist if u'd let a suffering animal that's gona die anyway suffer longer
-u must be even more sadistic to risk someone elses life or a few ppls' lives just so u can let a suffering animal that's gona die anyway suffer longer
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QUOTE(kennfreeloader @ Feb 18 2006, 09:46 AM)
also, even if the animal was not knocked down in the 1st place, u must be pretty sick to hit a motorist(esp a motorcyclist) just to avoid it.

Got another qs for u, what if u have no way of avoiding an animal on the road unless u swerve to the other lane and go head on with a trailer?
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You can just refer to my previous post. Either you just mere replying without having second thought or you just simply won't accept other ppl idea. Whatever you think I'm in, it is your personal thought which I'm completely different from what you said.

To answer your question, avoid and ram to a trailer... I would just die. No need to further explain. No one to blame, blame only myself of being careless. Always the self incur the most damage compare to other. I choose to knock the motorcyclist rather than animal because the one is going to suffer the most is me, myself, on no matter what happen later rather than just avoid responsibility by knocking the animal and say "it is just an accident".

P/S: I'm quoting someone message. And he said someone swerve left and right just to avoid the animal and almost knock down a motorcyclist. It is not regarding a half dead animal that has been ram for the 1st time and then you continue the second ram.

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QUOTE(crest @ Feb 18 2006, 10:43 AM)
ai..talk about this, yesterday when i was lepaking in mamak, i saw a small black kitten playing around alone, then after that run to middle of road and then one motorcycle pass by and go through this poor car, then this cat head senget alittle bit when tyre goes by, at that moment my heart aches and tot this poor fella going to die,cos the kitten look so innocent and cute, and i shouted kinda loud, embrassing, but then...the cat seem notin after that, rest at one place, then 5 mins later go other place bek...haha
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no u r wrong

cat is like that...im very sure the kitten will died at other place...


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QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 17 2006, 02:32 AM)
It happenned to me finally altho i always hope i wont meet this kind of situation..

sad.gif

very sad indeed...
I stop the car on the street then the car in front moved and run over a cat...

then the cat jumped many times in pain and the blood gushing out....

I was shocked..then i came down...

almost wanna cry... sad.gif

the cat almost half dead...I got 2 option...as i dont have euthanasia which i always wanted to get one for emergency......

Either i run over the cat till it is dead or i just pull it to the road side...

Very sad..what will u do if u were me?
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 17 2006, 09:32 AM)
I understand your feeling...
I met this kind of incident once. I was driving and the road was clear. I didn't see anything in front but all of sudden, I heard some sound coming out from my back tire. I thought I just ran through a stone or a hole. Unfortunately, I was wrong... I looked at by back mirror and saw an animal struggling. I stoped my car immediately to have a look on what is going on. I actually ran through a kitten which just ran underneath my car.  cry.gif I came to realize why the kitten ran underneath my car later when I saw the mother, the kitten was playing with the mother and accident ran out. The mother looked at the struggling kitten. I felt so sorry to the mother. I was there until the last moment of the kitten. I also realize that it wouldn't make it to the vet. It just past away in a few minutes.  cry.gif



QUOTE(gambate @ Feb 17 2006, 12:38 PM)
I once saw a women driving a car then hit a cat, the cat was hit at his hind leg...I dont know exactly how....it happen near my home...
I was in my car too....I just watch the women open the door to look what have she knocked and closed the door back ready to go....
I just gazed and looked directly to her....she then went out of her car....drag the poor cat to the side...then drove off....

I parked my car in my house, then go back to find the cat..but cannot find him...I wonder how he move, is he dead, bleeding or what???
I just wonder...Next day, my friend call, told me saw the cat, back leg totally cannot work...he drag himself with his 2 front leg...my friend took him, try giving food but he dont want, he put gamat oil around his leg cause already got some white 'ulat' around there....

Pity la....when I came home...he's not there anymore...then never saw him again....
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QUOTE(freak @ Feb 17 2006, 12:51 PM)
i went over a dead cat once at 100kmh.
it was not on purpose as I couldnt avoid it. going over a dead cat at that speed feels asthough you're driving over a pothole filled with water...i could hear the splash sound.
i had to take my car to the car wash later to clean the blood stains.
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QUOTE(imedia @ Feb 17 2006, 02:44 PM)
I once saw a cat got hit by a vehicle. It was still alive and kinda crawling in its grotesque state, with blood all over. I being the kind hearted soul, ended it's life by rolling over it, since i was driving behind the said vehicle; squishing the life out of it. I was damn proud that i was able to help ease the pain of the cat by ending it's miserable life .
The only drawback was that the ungrateful cat decided to leave a patch of hair on my tires which were a pain to wash off.
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QUOTE(satanduck @ Feb 17 2006, 08:02 PM)
I remember many many years ago back when I was in secondary school i was at a friend's house at night. There was this stray dog with 3-4 puppies around her. I was thinking to myself "HOW CUTE! If only I can bring one home!"

Shortly after that thought left my mind one of the pups ran out from the group and was in the middle of the road. A car just drove by, the pup looked up and I can see his face lit up by the head lamp of the car, and fear came to his eyes... before I can even move or say or do anything the pup already lay there motionless...

It was one of the saddest day of my life. More than 10 yrs later today I can still remember the look on the pups face... "WHATS DAT? Oh NOOOOO!"

The innocence of the pup and its fatal accident almost made me cry  cry.gif
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LOL, how about some dumbass motorist who killed my 1 feet big cute doggie? Name havent been given yet. Knows how to sit and ask for food, and guard most especially.
Typical malaysians doh.gif
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 18 2006, 11:18 AM)
You can just refer to my previous post. Either you just mere replying without having second thought or you just simply won't accept other ppl idea. Whatever you think I'm in, it is your personal thought which I'm completely different from what you said.

To answer your question, avoid and ram to a trailer... I would just die. No need to further explain. No one to blame, blame only myself of being careless. Always the self incur the most damage compare to other. I choose to knock the motorcyclist rather than animal because the one is going to suffer the most is me, myself, on no matter what happen later rather than just avoid responsibility by knocking the animal and say "it is just an accident".

P/S: I'm quoting someone message. And he said someone swerve left and right just to avoid the animal and almost knock down a motorcyclist. It is not regarding a half dead animal that has been ram for the 1st time and then you continue the second ram.
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lol, alot easier said than done. BUT HEY ITS THE INTERNET! anyone claim that they wud do anything if they wana^_^. Anyway i merely asked you some questions for clarification and i didnt get any answers*not surprised tho* other than the heroic trailer sacrifice. Perhaps you have not lost someone precious enough to understand the value of a human life. Hopefully a trailer comes b4 a helpless motorcyclist then thumbup.gif

oh and 1 more question, last 1 i promise hehe
Are u a vegetarian? c'mon, answer honestly biggrin.gif

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lol, alot easier said than done. BUT HEY ITS THE INTERNET! anyone claim that they wud do anything if they wana^_^. Anyway i merely asked you some questions for clarification and i didnt get any answers*not surprised tho* other than the heroic trailer sacrifice. Perhaps you have not lost someone precious enough to understand the value of a human life. Hopefully a trailer comes b4 a helpless motorcyclist then thumbup.gif

oh and 1 more question, last 1 i promise hehe
Are u a vegetarian? c'mon, answer honestly biggrin.gif
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sigh... your statement is as pathetic and sarcastic as usual. There is no point to express myself further, since you refuse to understand. Well, I agree with you that "say is a lot easier than do it" but hey, don't judge a book by it's cover. If you don't know me, don't judge me!

For the question, save it for yourself, since it is worthless to answer yawn.gif
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hey hey, so ur not vegetarian hehehe.
think about it, if u really feel that bad about harming animals, u should stop living in the city cz watever u do to survive here will encourage pollution and erode animal habitats. I suppose u drive, use paper, electricity, eat lots of animals and kill bloodsucking bugs. Might as well just stop living or go live in the forest and survive solely on plants to avoid harming INNOCENT ANIMALS because U CAN'T STAND THE GUILT, but then again, that's alot easier said than done.

I dont know u and i don't wana 'judge a book by its cover', that's why im asking u, to see if ur a big hypocrite that only knows how to talk alot but can't really take action mer.. cz i know there is a possibility that u may not be 1..=)

sorry for bursting ur bubble and pissing u off, shudv just ended at "so ur not vegetarian eh?"^_^
*yeah ok im too free and it's just too tempting*
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if it was me..i'll give it a chase to that pelanggar..normally cats being over run by cars dont stand a good chance to survive-u noe...internal injuries..all this all that.. huh.gif
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try and play more gta:vice city or san andreas and you won't feel so sad
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Stray dogs may bite if you touch them when they are in pain/injured. Sometimes have to consider, if you see someone run over a stray animal and you take it to vet, who will care for the animal after that? You cant just release it on the road again, it might need medical care for a while. Hard choice to make, good thing I have not come accross this situation before, but if I'm the one that did it, I'll try my best to save the animal
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Yes, injured animals tend to attack or bite you back if you go close to them. Try to get their trust first (though thats the hardest thing to do), check for its injury and see whats the best way to help it. By rushing what to do, you will add more pain to them as you dont know what damage they have.

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I once saw a cat got hit by a vehicle. It was still alive and kinda crawling in its grotesque state, with blood all over. I being the kind hearted soul, ended it's life by rolling over it, since i was driving behind the said vehicle; squishing the life out of it. I was damn proud that i was able to help ease the pain of the cat by ending it's miserable life .
The only drawback was that the ungrateful cat decided to leave a patch of hair on my tires which were a pain to wash off.
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You dont need to point out that in here shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(RaFaLe @ Feb 19 2006, 12:06 AM)
if it was me..i'll give it a chase to that pelanggar..normally cats being over run by cars dont stand a good chance to survive-u noe...internal injuries..all this all that.. huh.gif
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You're rite about internal injuries...my own siamese cat was hit by a car last year..i know it was not the driver's fault as my cat who ran across the street suddenly...

His body was ok...his mouth no blood at all...but he died a couple of minutes after being hit...

The most sad part is when I buried him...I dont have the heart to put him in his grave..cause he looks like sleeping...because no injury at all....But when I lift him and lay him in his grave..I could feel something in his stomach...I dont know how to explain but I knew then,that he hurt badly in the inside... sad.gif
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Unfortunately~last nite i saw a cat lying on the road on near Ampang..splat! huh.gif
probably i was just late for a minute..its still fresh..the blood,evrything..
poor cat..sob3 cry.gif
The road was busy i just can stop by for a sec to hv a look at it..
Yeah,sometimes its not the driver's fault~busy road!
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i was driving around 80kmh at night suddenly got one cat jump our from roadside straight into the tyres.. crushed in and instant! it was a ford ranger 4x4.

cant sleep that nite. but then again the cat sure got some death wish.


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cats usually tend to go *blank* 4 a while..not moving on the road coz of the headlights..glare i think.. during that moment *boom* la..poor cat
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hm... i think i'm the worst la... i can see almost "everyday" got cats or dogs body on the road... usually cannot differentiate wat it was already becos it was rammed again and again until it become "chopped meat" ... iissshhhh.... very terrible sad.gif ... i still remember i once complaint that "dam only 15minutes from my house to workplace but everyday can see the animals corpse rammed again & again" !

And the most thing i scare is not enuff time for me to avoid the corpse... sometimes avoid but still will ran over a bit i think... sad.gif
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My gf and I had a Jack Russel dog. If you don't know how it looks like, it's the dog that starred in the TV sitcom Frasier. It was a damn smart dog.

It was only a few weeks old. We came back from Tesco and the poor dog was in its cage the whole day. So we decided to let it run free with the supervision of my gf whilst she went to throw the garbage. I was in the kitchen unpacking the stuff we bought. Seconds before the carnage happened, i had chill-spine and quickly went out and true enough, both my gf and I saw a White Honda Civic rammed through our beloved dog. My gf was so distraught and she went panicky.

I had to wrap the poor dog and bury it later at night. The whole head was crushed and i almost vomitted while cleaning it before wrapping it nicely for burial. I still have visions of that accident and it was really gruesome.
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My gf and I had a Jack Russel dog. If you don't know how it looks like, it's the dog that starred in the TV sitcom Frasier. It was a damn smart dog.

It was only a few weeks old. We came back from Tesco and the poor dog was in its cage the whole day. So we decided to let it run free with the supervision of my gf whilst she went to throw the garbage. I was in the kitchen unpacking the stuff we bought. Seconds before the carnage happened, i had chill-spine and quickly went out and true enough, both my gf and I saw a White Honda Civic rammed through our beloved dog. My gf was so distraught and she went panicky.

I had to wrap the poor dog and bury it later at night. The whole head was crushed and i almost vomitted while cleaning it before wrapping it nicely for burial. I still have visions of that accident and it was really gruesome.
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so sorry to hear that, Myth sad.gif
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sometimes when I drove at night and I saw a toad trying to cross the street, I would stop and let it pass... sweat.gif how to see? well, I just wait a while and hope he don't lepak in the middle of the road...

I do that the same to cats and dogs... it's dangerous because of the car behind might not expect you to stop abruptly, so best is to be alert with the surrounding when driving and keep the distance between cars... smile.gif
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Something offtopic, but still related to the unfortunate fate of a poor animal.

It happened 4 years ago. My mom fetched me to the tuition centre coz' there was a heavy downpour. On the way, i saw a puppy in a monsoon drain and the water level haven't reach him. The puppy is still sitting on the elevated part of the drain.
Eh hard to describe how was it.


Don't ask me why and how the dog end up in the drain...I just saw it.

I asked my mom to stop the car but she said the traffic is heavy and its raining. She just drove pass and i feel guilt stricken.
Right after the class, we drove pass the road again and saw that the drain is already flooded.

That feeling is even worse than running over a dog/cat. Knowing that you could do something to save that animal but you didn't take any actions.
Running over an animal ends its live instantly without much suffering but i can't imagine a puppy being smothered and drown...

Everytime i drove pass that road again reminds me of that incident.

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hey hey, so ur not vegetarian hehehe.
think about it, if u really feel that bad about harming animals, u should stop living in the city cz watever u do to survive here will encourage pollution and erode animal habitats. I suppose u drive, use paper, electricity, eat lots of animals and kill bloodsucking bugs. Might as well just stop living or go live in the forest and survive solely on plants to avoid harming INNOCENT ANIMALS because U CAN'T STAND THE GUILT, but then again, that's alot easier said than done.

I dont know u and i don't wana 'judge a book by its cover', that's why im asking u, to see if ur a big hypocrite that only knows how to talk alot but can't really take action mer.. cz i know there is a possibility that u may not be 1..=)

sorry for bursting ur bubble and pissing u off, shudv just ended at "so ur not vegetarian eh?"^_^
*yeah ok im too free and it's just too tempting*
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Congratz~ with your theory, a new monk has been born... to ease your satisfaction, ya, you bursted my bubble but so? What are your trying to proof here? Let me ask you something simple, do you think that monk won't be stepping an ant accidentally in his life? If the monk really is/was, perhaps the monk know how to fly. What you are talking is totally impossible to do! What do you expect me to be? A monk? Well, I think you are thinking too much. Like what cantonese said "twisting around the bull's horn". Let me rewind back to the original question. This time, I'm going to draw a clearer picture for you to see.

Question : While you are driving and suddenly, there is an animal (dog, cat or whatever...) jump out of no where. What are you going to do? Avoid it? If you avoid, you are going to knock on a motorcyclist. So what is your decision? To knock down the animal or the motorcyclist?

My answer : The animal has 10% of surviving. 90% is death. Whereas the motorcyclist has 50% of surviving and 50% is death. I choosed to knock the motorcyclist because he has higher chance of surviving. Simple!

Now, what will you choose? Perhaps you are choosing to end the animal's life since you are caring and loving ppl. Why don't twist around and think that the animal belongs to any family. It is as important as human life because it is already part of the family. Don't you think the family will be sad? It is also easy for you to say rather than do it. Since there is no rules stated that knocking down an animal will need to go to jail. You will just pass without worrying any trouble comes to you. Perhaps, no matter how much I emphasize, you will still not understand. Perhaps you haven't had an animal as a family member. Perhaps you are a sadist that animal's life is consider worthless. Perhaps you can continue to protect human since you already mentioned how "good" human is.

Maybe I shouldn't ask you so much questions. Maybe you will start twisting again sweat.gif . But whatever answer you choose, save it to yourself. I would just pass. I will shut up and watch. Perhaps to ease your satisfaction, you will hope to see I kill a person because of avoiding animal and end up in jail.

P/S : Don't you think whenever a person is ready to drive/ride a vehicle, he/she should be prepare for accident (either he/she knock ppl or ppl knoch he/she)? Don't you think it is better not to drive/ride? Because it is safer and reduce accident. It is even better if all the ppl don't drive! Nobody will get hurts and you no need to worry about losing your precious ppl. Oh ya, I already started to be like you twisting around with illogically definition biggrin.gif Btw, did you notice that I had been reiterating my point over and over again? But this time is much more clearer thanks to you laugh.gif

QUOTE(Myth @ Feb 20 2006, 04:43 PM)
My gf and I had a Jack Russel dog. If you don't know how it looks like, it's the dog that starred in the TV sitcom Frasier. It was a damn smart dog.

It was only a few weeks old. We came back from Tesco and the poor dog was in its cage the whole day. So we decided to let it run free with the supervision of my gf whilst she went to throw the garbage. I was in the kitchen unpacking the stuff we bought. Seconds before the carnage happened, i had chill-spine and quickly went out and true enough, both my gf and I saw a White Honda Civic rammed through our beloved dog. My gf was so distraught and she went panicky.

I had to wrap the poor dog and bury it later at night. The whole head was crushed and i almost vomitted while cleaning it before wrapping it nicely for burial. I still have visions of that accident and it was really gruesome.
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Sorry to hear that. I can understand your feeling since I saw almost the same scene before.

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Feb 20 2006, 05:37 PM)
Something offtopic, but still related to the unfortunate fate of a poor animal.

It happened 4 years ago. My mom fetched me to the tuition centre coz' there was a heavy downpour. On the way, i saw a puppy in a monsoon drain and the water level haven't reach him. The puppy is still sitting on the elevated part of the drain.
Eh hard to describe how was it.
Don't ask me why and how the dog end up in the drain...I just saw it.

I asked my mom to stop the car but she said the traffic is heavy and its raining. She just drove pass and i feel guilt stricken.
Right after the class, we drove pass the road again and saw that the drain is already flooded.

That feeling is even worse than running over a dog/cat. Knowing that you could do something to save that animal but you didn't take any actions.
Running over an animal ends its live instantly without much suffering but i can't imagine a puppy being smothered and drown...

Everytime i drove pass that road again reminds me of that incident.
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It is the sadest thing when you can only see with your helpless hands. I feel the same too cry.gif
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Seriously....yesterday nite i ran over a cat...maybe even 2 cat..
I was driving home and suddenly 2 cats running across the road..playing chasing..
I could have emergency stop but it would hurt my car..and i guess the cats will run back to the roadside (as usual)...
But they didnt..so i ran over them and got "glok glok" sound after i pass..
I look at the mirror and the cat was like flying or jumping very high nearly over my car roof..
So i U-turn back to see if i killed it or not..but didnt found any bodies lying there.
So i guess the cats are fine...

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gack... i think u ran over their tail.
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I dunno what to say if this kind of thing happens to me. Im scared of blood and somehow dont even dare to take the bleeding cat with my hands. Somehow i feel pity for them but i just cant help it. I hope that we can just drive slowly when we see dogs or cat on the roadside.
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InfiniteVoid: i thought u said its a waste of time answering me?=)

its ok all i wanted to know is if ur a vegetarian or not, since u don't seem to be one, there's ntg else needed to say. u dunit to explain so much^_^
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 20 2006, 10:34 PM)


Question : While you are driving and suddenly, there is an animal (dog, cat or whatever...) jump out of no where. What are you going to do? Avoid it? If you avoid, you are going to knock on a motorcyclist. So what is your decision? To knock down the animal or the motorcyclist?

My answer : The animal has 10% of surviving. 90% is death. Whereas the motorcyclist has 50% of surviving and 50% is death. I choosed to knock the motorcyclist because he has higher chance of surviving. Simple!

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I think in this cannot turn left or right kind of incident, I'll just emergency brake n see if can stop in time. Sometimes its hard to think it such a split second, so we dont even have time to consider who we want to knock down or avoid.
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I think in this cannot turn left or right kind of incident, I'll just emergency brake n see if can stop in time. Sometimes its hard to think it such a split second, so we dont even have time to consider who we want to knock down or avoid.
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Well, if you know your car and your skill well. You will have your natural reaction. Also, if your car does not have any ABS, most likely you will swerve to random direction with emergency break.
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Some months ago I driving, noon time. . . then saw 2 monitor lizards, the size is quite big also, around 4 feets long or more with the tail, 1 chasing the another 1, like fighting, suddenly run across the road, I cannot stop my car in time, also scare the car behind me will bang me. . . then try my best to avoid this 2 creatures, then after I run across it, from the rear view mirror, I only saw one tail, more then 1 feet long, leave on the road. . . . . .

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u squished the the tail off? then the lizard now no tail la...
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u squished the the tail off? then the lizard now no tail la...
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Lizards are known to drop off their tail to confuse the predator. Their tail will still grow back but I'm not sure about monitor lizards.
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i think that applys to lizard only....could be wrong
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 23 2006, 09:16 AM)
Lizards are known to drop off their tail to confuse the predator. Their tail will still grow back but I'm not sure about monitor lizards.
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QUOTE(jasp3r @ Feb 23 2006, 02:57 PM)
i think that applys to lizard only....could be wrong
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I found it...
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When attacked, Water Monitors try to intimidate predators by lashing out with their tails, inflating their throats, hissing loudly, turning sideways and compressing their bodies. When cornered, they will bite and claw. Unlike other lizards, they do not drop their tails in self defence.

Monitor lizard do not drop off their tail to defence against predator. It is taken from this source.

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QUOTE(gambate @ Feb 23 2006, 09:11 AM)
u squished the the tail off? then the lizard now no tail la...
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Yup, I squished it's tail off. . . coz can hear some sound from my tyre also when run across it . . sweat.gif sweat.gif

How I now the lizard now still got tail or not. . . blink.gif blink.gif

At first I tot I will squish both of that 2 lizard like shit also. . . luckily no. . .

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now the lizard will be famous in paper. 1st discovery lizard without tail. biggrin.gif
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if only people will learn not to speed, there wont be so many posts in this thread..

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QUOTE(ryant3 @ Feb 25 2006, 01:07 AM)
if only people will learn not to speed, there wont be so many posts in this thread..
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Honestly it couldnt be help sometimes also.. some dogs really dashed out of the house when their owner open the main gate, a few incidents I encountered, lucky to have 0% casualty. Know why the dogs dashed out of the house? Coz the owner seldom walk the dog and usually its very normal for the dog to feel excited to be out of the house. I will be extremely devastated if I ran over a dog / cat.. coz Im a dog lover. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Feb 25 2006, 01:12 AM)
Honestly it couldnt be help sometimes also.. some dogs really dashed out of the house when their owner open the main gate, a few incidents I encountered, lucky to have 0% casualty. Know why the dogs dashed out of the house? Coz the owner seldom walk the dog and usually its very normal for the dog to feel excited to be out of the house. I will be extremely devastated if I ran over a dog / cat.. coz Im a dog lover.  biggrin.gif
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I agree! though i am a cat lover..I admit sometimes the guilt of running over these innocent cats are not on the driver itself...the cats sumtimes feel excited...sumtimes chasing each other....that cases we couldnt help...but if the driver who are reckless..no doubt if they even ran over cats would are not even sprinting...
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yesterday i saw a cat died in front of my eyes ... it was horrible... i cant do anythin ...the cat just died
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QUOTE(gambate @ Feb 25 2006, 01:24 AM)
I agree! though i am a cat lover..I admit sometimes the guilt of running over these innocent cats are not on the driver itself...the cats sumtimes feel excited...sumtimes chasing each other....that cases we couldnt help...but if the driver who are reckless..no doubt if they even ran over cats would are not even sprinting...
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Ermm.. we can always educate and discipline our pets.. this takes patience. My neighbour keeps 3 rottweilers, 1 junior bulldog & 1 junior jack russell. Those rotti's nvr crossed the line of the gate everytime the gate opens. There's once a stranger asking donation nearly got scared the shi* out of him coz the gate was open and he didnt notice the 2 rotti's basking in the sun, he approached the gate and the 3 rotti's just woke up and dashed to the gate line & stared at the stranger.. scary.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Happens to me as well a year ago the kitten was walking in the middle of the road between two apartments then a motorbike ran over it, the kitten sort of jumping as it was on a pogo stick, I was feeling very uncapable that time because I cannot do anything to save it.

And then there is another case at SS2, I was waiting for a cab then there is this car zooming through on the road in front of me then I heard a loud thud, it seems a cat was running from the other side of the road then bang front of the car luckly it missed the tyres. The cat was like lying flat on its stomach kinda stunned and there is this bus picking passenger just about to move and the cat is on its path, I was standing there and looking at it still control my hensem, but when I see the cat eyes and the bus .. then I said hell with the hensem and macho stuff I have a cat to rescue. Just when I was going to touch it to my surprise the cat with just three big leap already back on the other side of the road. I guess I've bring it to reality huh! anyway feeling so glad I saved a cat life biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Feb 25 2006, 01:31 AM)
Ermm.. we can always educate and discipline our pets.. this takes patience. My neighbour keeps 3 rottweilers, 1 junior bulldog & 1 junior jack russell. Those rotti's nvr crossed the line of the gate everytime the gate opens. There's once a stranger asking donation nearly got scared the shi* out of him coz the gate was open and he didnt notice the 2 rotti's basking in the sun, he approached the gate and the 3 rotti's just woke up and dashed to the gate line & stared at the stranger.. scary..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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very2 disciplined... biggrin.gif i wonder how ur neighbour trained them....
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I always run over my cat. While i was running with my brother, suddenly my cat get in my way. I have to jump over my cat.
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Feb 25 2006, 11:04 AM)
I always run over my cat. While i was running with my brother, suddenly my cat get in my way. I have to jump over my cat.
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doh.gif U made me scared when u mention 'always'.....
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post Feb 27 2006, 09:23 PM

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adoi....the worst and most sad accident involving cats....saw this pregnant cat just beside the road...then this stupid construction guy driving a pajero( or somethin like pajero la....very long time ago) want to avoid a pothole while talking on the phone and driving...3 jobs at one time....the pajero hit the cat and the cat thrown away infront of me....the pregnant cat died immediately with a torn stomach....the sad part was....i saw this tiny embrio....4 of them...
move a lil bit then died....this accident happens when i was in standard 6.....but i still remember it ....thats why although i am not so into cats....i feel sorry for them....urban life makes them a roadkill...
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post Feb 27 2006, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(bob 3003 @ Feb 27 2006, 09:23 PM)
adoi....the worst and most sad accident involving cats....saw this pregnant cat just beside the road...then this stupid construction guy driving a pajero( or somethin like pajero la....very long time ago) want to avoid a pothole while talking on the phone and driving...3 jobs at one time....the pajero hit the cat and the cat thrown away infront of me....the pregnant cat died immediately with a torn stomach....the sad part was....i saw this tiny embrio....4 of them...
move a lil bit then died....this accident happens when i was in standard 6.....but i still remember it ....thats why although i am not so into cats....i feel sorry for them....urban life makes them a roadkill...
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man, this is one hell of a sad story.. 5 lives gone in a second because of some mutha F
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post Feb 28 2006, 12:18 AM

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That one is a totally reckless driver!! poor those innocent cats....

 

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