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 If u see someone run over a dog/cat....., What will you do?

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post Feb 17 2006, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 17 2006, 02:32 AM)
It happenned to me finally altho i always hope i wont meet this kind of situation..

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very sad indeed...
I stop the car on the street then the car in front moved and run over a cat...

then the cat jumped many times in pain and the blood gushing out....

I was shocked..then i came down...

almost wanna cry... sad.gif

the cat almost half dead...I got 2 option...as i dont have euthanasia which i always wanted to get one for emergency......

Either i run over the cat till it is dead or i just pull it to the road side...

Very sad..what will u do if u were me?
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I understand your feeling...
I met this kind of incident once. I was driving and the road was clear. I didn't see anything in front but all of sudden, I heard some sound coming out from my back tire. I thought I just ran through a stone or a hole. Unfortunately, I was wrong... I looked at by back mirror and saw an animal struggling. I stoped my car immediately to have a look on what is going on. I actually ran through a kitten which just ran underneath my car. cry.gif I came to realize why the kitten ran underneath my car later when I saw the mother, the kitten was playing with the mother and accident ran out. The mother looked at the struggling kitten. I felt so sorry to the mother. I was there until the last moment of the kitten. I also realize that it wouldn't make it to the vet. It just past away in a few minutes. cry.gif

After the kitten past away, I drove back and find some digger. I returned to the kitten and burried it nearby. I was so shock that day and I almost caught a few accident...may the poor soul rest in peace cry.gif

QUOTE(earl-ku @ Feb 17 2006, 02:47 AM)
what can u do? there is nothing u can do ... its just roadkill

dont tell me u wanna go pick it up and sent to veterinarian ...

the only thing u can do is dont swerve the car left or right, just go over it in the middle and avoid hitting it

i once saw this bloody fellow trying to avoid hitting it by going to the left, that fella almost bang a motorcyclist ... imagine avoid hitting a cat and end up hitting a biker ...
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Well, I wouldn't agree with you. Animals are innocent but not human. I would rather avoid an animal and knock the motorcyclist instead. There are a few reason why I do so...

1.) I can repay back if it is not a serious accident.
2.) If that accident involve life, I still can repay my sin in the jail.
3.) Human is the worst...

What if the fact is turn the other way round...
I ran through the animal, I don't care and I got through with it. I sin a lot that cannot repay. I would turn up to be the worst idiot!



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post Feb 17 2006, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Feb 17 2006, 11:57 AM)
if u hit a human , maybe its someone husband, wife , auntie , uncle , son, daughter, daughter, niece, nephew.  someone will be sad .  what if your family got killed this way ?  how would u feel ?  when the motorist explain to you that he swerved his car to avoid a dog but hit and kill your dad instead ?

and yeah i seen my share of pets getting run over....  like my mom or dad run over our own cat.... 2-3 cats i think ...  quite sad.....  burried it in our back yard...  accident happens human or animals its sad to see it. 
p.s: i dont mean to offend anyone with this post . im sorry if it does .    unsure.gif
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Both of us stand a different point of view. Those feeling is you feel for yourself. Try bringing the feeling in the animal world... won't you think it would be the same? Nobody feel for them doesn't mean you can take for granted.

There are no right wrong or right, black or white between our point of view. It is a grey area which won't give a clear solution forever...

Well, I understand very clear before I made the statements above. I also predicted someone will sure to reply it. I already have the same thought as you very long time ago but I have the conclusion which I think is the best. You just have to think about it yourself. There is nothing worth of prolong this arguement between which is right, which is wrong... just think...

P/S: Don't worry, you didn't offend me as I already know the answer before hand... try to stand on my point of view and think why I think the different way.
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post Feb 18 2006, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(kennfreeloader @ Feb 18 2006, 09:42 AM)
He said that the animal already got knocked down and is gona die anyway so it won't make much diff if u hit it again or not, wud probably be better if u kill it off on the spot so it won't have to suffer more.

The motorist that u may knock down cud be innocent as well, and is probably alot less likely to die anytime sooner than that animal. Ever thought of wat wud happen if the motorist had a family to feed? what if there were kids onboard? are u saying that a human life or more are worth less than a half-dead dog/cat on the road? what if u get jailed, ur fam wud be worried sick and u will suffer alot, do u really have the guts to do it or are u just all talk?

not saying that u are wrong cz im noe u dont wana hear that, jz wondering if u ever thought about stuff like that.

my thoughts:

-u must be a sadist if u'd let a suffering animal that's gona die anyway suffer longer
-u must be even more sadistic to risk someone elses life or a few ppls' lives just so u can let a suffering animal that's gona die anyway suffer longer
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QUOTE(kennfreeloader @ Feb 18 2006, 09:46 AM)
also, even if the animal was not knocked down in the 1st place, u must be pretty sick to hit a motorist(esp a motorcyclist) just to avoid it.

Got another qs for u, what if u have no way of avoiding an animal on the road unless u swerve to the other lane and go head on with a trailer?
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You can just refer to my previous post. Either you just mere replying without having second thought or you just simply won't accept other ppl idea. Whatever you think I'm in, it is your personal thought which I'm completely different from what you said.

To answer your question, avoid and ram to a trailer... I would just die. No need to further explain. No one to blame, blame only myself of being careless. Always the self incur the most damage compare to other. I choose to knock the motorcyclist rather than animal because the one is going to suffer the most is me, myself, on no matter what happen later rather than just avoid responsibility by knocking the animal and say "it is just an accident".

P/S: I'm quoting someone message. And he said someone swerve left and right just to avoid the animal and almost knock down a motorcyclist. It is not regarding a half dead animal that has been ram for the 1st time and then you continue the second ram.

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post Feb 18 2006, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(kennfreeloader @ Feb 18 2006, 06:09 PM)
lol, alot easier said than done. BUT HEY ITS THE INTERNET! anyone claim that they wud do anything if they wana^_^. Anyway i merely asked you some questions for clarification and i didnt get any answers*not surprised tho* other than the heroic trailer sacrifice. Perhaps you have not lost someone precious enough to understand the value of a human life. Hopefully a trailer comes b4 a helpless motorcyclist then thumbup.gif

oh and 1 more question, last 1 i promise hehe
Are u a vegetarian? c'mon, answer honestly biggrin.gif
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sigh... your statement is as pathetic and sarcastic as usual. There is no point to express myself further, since you refuse to understand. Well, I agree with you that "say is a lot easier than do it" but hey, don't judge a book by it's cover. If you don't know me, don't judge me!

For the question, save it for yourself, since it is worthless to answer yawn.gif
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post Feb 20 2006, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(kennfreeloader @ Feb 18 2006, 10:47 PM)
hey hey, so ur not vegetarian hehehe.
think about it, if u really feel that bad about harming animals, u should stop living in the city cz watever u do to survive here will encourage pollution and erode animal habitats. I suppose u drive, use paper, electricity, eat lots of animals and kill bloodsucking bugs. Might as well just stop living or go live in the forest and survive solely on plants to avoid harming INNOCENT ANIMALS because U CAN'T STAND THE GUILT, but then again, that's alot easier said than done.

I dont know u and i don't wana 'judge a book by its cover', that's why im asking u, to see if ur a big hypocrite that only knows how to talk alot but can't really take action mer.. cz i know there is a possibility that u may not be 1..=)

sorry for bursting ur bubble and pissing u off, shudv just ended at "so ur not vegetarian eh?"^_^
*yeah ok im too free and it's just too tempting*
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Congratz~ with your theory, a new monk has been born... to ease your satisfaction, ya, you bursted my bubble but so? What are your trying to proof here? Let me ask you something simple, do you think that monk won't be stepping an ant accidentally in his life? If the monk really is/was, perhaps the monk know how to fly. What you are talking is totally impossible to do! What do you expect me to be? A monk? Well, I think you are thinking too much. Like what cantonese said "twisting around the bull's horn". Let me rewind back to the original question. This time, I'm going to draw a clearer picture for you to see.

Question : While you are driving and suddenly, there is an animal (dog, cat or whatever...) jump out of no where. What are you going to do? Avoid it? If you avoid, you are going to knock on a motorcyclist. So what is your decision? To knock down the animal or the motorcyclist?

My answer : The animal has 10% of surviving. 90% is death. Whereas the motorcyclist has 50% of surviving and 50% is death. I choosed to knock the motorcyclist because he has higher chance of surviving. Simple!

Now, what will you choose? Perhaps you are choosing to end the animal's life since you are caring and loving ppl. Why don't twist around and think that the animal belongs to any family. It is as important as human life because it is already part of the family. Don't you think the family will be sad? It is also easy for you to say rather than do it. Since there is no rules stated that knocking down an animal will need to go to jail. You will just pass without worrying any trouble comes to you. Perhaps, no matter how much I emphasize, you will still not understand. Perhaps you haven't had an animal as a family member. Perhaps you are a sadist that animal's life is consider worthless. Perhaps you can continue to protect human since you already mentioned how "good" human is.

Maybe I shouldn't ask you so much questions. Maybe you will start twisting again sweat.gif . But whatever answer you choose, save it to yourself. I would just pass. I will shut up and watch. Perhaps to ease your satisfaction, you will hope to see I kill a person because of avoiding animal and end up in jail.

P/S : Don't you think whenever a person is ready to drive/ride a vehicle, he/she should be prepare for accident (either he/she knock ppl or ppl knoch he/she)? Don't you think it is better not to drive/ride? Because it is safer and reduce accident. It is even better if all the ppl don't drive! Nobody will get hurts and you no need to worry about losing your precious ppl. Oh ya, I already started to be like you twisting around with illogically definition biggrin.gif Btw, did you notice that I had been reiterating my point over and over again? But this time is much more clearer thanks to you laugh.gif

QUOTE(Myth @ Feb 20 2006, 04:43 PM)
My gf and I had a Jack Russel dog. If you don't know how it looks like, it's the dog that starred in the TV sitcom Frasier. It was a damn smart dog.

It was only a few weeks old. We came back from Tesco and the poor dog was in its cage the whole day. So we decided to let it run free with the supervision of my gf whilst she went to throw the garbage. I was in the kitchen unpacking the stuff we bought. Seconds before the carnage happened, i had chill-spine and quickly went out and true enough, both my gf and I saw a White Honda Civic rammed through our beloved dog. My gf was so distraught and she went panicky.

I had to wrap the poor dog and bury it later at night. The whole head was crushed and i almost vomitted while cleaning it before wrapping it nicely for burial. I still have visions of that accident and it was really gruesome.
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Sorry to hear that. I can understand your feeling since I saw almost the same scene before.

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Feb 20 2006, 05:37 PM)
Something offtopic, but still related to the unfortunate fate of a poor animal.

It happened 4 years ago. My mom fetched me to the tuition centre coz' there was a heavy downpour. On the way, i saw a puppy in a monsoon drain and the water level haven't reach him. The puppy is still sitting on the elevated part of the drain.
Eh hard to describe how was it.
Don't ask me why and how the dog end up in the drain...I just saw it.

I asked my mom to stop the car but she said the traffic is heavy and its raining. She just drove pass and i feel guilt stricken.
Right after the class, we drove pass the road again and saw that the drain is already flooded.

That feeling is even worse than running over a dog/cat. Knowing that you could do something to save that animal but you didn't take any actions.
Running over an animal ends its live instantly without much suffering but i can't imagine a puppy being smothered and drown...

Everytime i drove pass that road again reminds me of that incident.
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It is the sadest thing when you can only see with your helpless hands. I feel the same too cry.gif
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post Feb 21 2006, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 21 2006, 03:06 PM)
I think in this cannot turn left or right kind of incident, I'll just emergency brake n see if can stop in time. Sometimes its hard to think it such a split second, so we dont even have time to consider who we want to knock down or avoid.
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Well, if you know your car and your skill well. You will have your natural reaction. Also, if your car does not have any ABS, most likely you will swerve to random direction with emergency break.
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post Feb 23 2006, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(gambate @ Feb 23 2006, 09:11 AM)
u squished the the tail off? then the lizard now no tail la...
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Lizards are known to drop off their tail to confuse the predator. Their tail will still grow back but I'm not sure about monitor lizards.
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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Feb 23 2006, 09:16 AM)
Lizards are known to drop off their tail to confuse the predator. Their tail will still grow back but I'm not sure about monitor lizards.
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QUOTE(jasp3r @ Feb 23 2006, 02:57 PM)
i think that applys to lizard only....could be wrong
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I found it...
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When attacked, Water Monitors try to intimidate predators by lashing out with their tails, inflating their throats, hissing loudly, turning sideways and compressing their bodies. When cornered, they will bite and claw. Unlike other lizards, they do not drop their tails in self defence.

Monitor lizard do not drop off their tail to defence against predator. It is taken from this source.


 

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