Hi, anyone here keep saltwater tank or reef tank, just share ur picture and everything here

I don't think there will be many reefers coz cost is prohibitive.... imo

I tot of trying but halfway abandoned beli chiller alone is 1k plus now sitting abandoned in my room

goto www.chuisui.com. marine n chui sui forum.

lol... nvm lar, anyone wanna share anything, can come here, i will post my tank picture soon, btw... chiller can get around 500- 600 for 2nd hand one, i got 1 unit here,friend selling

btw... chiller is not need if u only keep for fish only, chiller is important for reef tank

This post has been edited by lorddevil: Feb 15 2006, 12:48 PM

ahhahaha i finally found the seafish member,......i planning to start my saltwater tank plus reef inside but totally no idea where to go and how to start it. can u guys pls advise me.

tank size - 6 ft length, 3 ft width, 4 ft height

what do i need??????

Wow...then you need lot of kg of sand bed. If it is just FOT. If you want to keep coral...then you need lot of live rocks, at least 2-3 MHs. Chiller is a must...big protein skimmer. easily cost around RM5K for just the equipments.

marine can be cheap n expensive kekeke there is actually quite big number of marine reefer in malaysia one

Gaaak RM5k...

I'm quitting before I spend too much... so sad maybe later when I got more cash I'll try again. Love the idea of a mini GBF in my house.

Soooo beautiful

5k consider cheap lo... his tank saiz 6 feet long X 3 feet wide X 4 feet tall

anyway.... there is budget player and out of the world $$$$$ player

Im a small time marine hobbyist...

This is a pic of my mantis shrimp



Quite hardy and make an excellent pet although many people consider it pest.. or even food.

This post has been edited by Havoc Knightmare: Feb 23 2006, 02:53 AM

bablylabbit is marine tank sifu.

for me, i'm heading for the skimmer (most probably weipro), powerhead (the one i have now, i donno what brand) and blower fan (probably take one of my 120mm fans to blow)

aiyah not sure also cos now thinking of planted as well........

heheh..best dont go for planted and marine hehe save $$$$ kekekek

going african cichlid is costly enough. hehe. plan to try some thing else.

eh c'mon la my computer parts overall cost more leh.

so how? do you think my "planned" setup ok?

yesterday i went to 88 marine and saw this small tank using 1 powerhead only. no cooling, no nothing else. what's your opinion?

sorry ah outta topic subject ... i've always been a fresh water fish rearer all the while, last week i went to a pet shop and saw this weird looking fish. it has big sleepy eyes, long and colorful redish body and the reason i like it - its very responsive follow my fingers when i play with it. going for RM38 n the one and only SUPER RED GAMMA, i thought of making it my first marine fish in a few days time. but then when i went again sold liow. i tried googling for this fish's infos but cant find .. oni got gamma fish food knn.. anyone can provide me infos on this fish name red gamma?

can't help if that name is one simply given by the shop.

for example, neolamprologus leleupi is called heaven bird or something. aihhh.

tropheus moorii is called firefox. haha.........what a name.

tarak tahu apa nama ikan itu also ekkeke

nano tank ah..hard to say lo rajin mah can lo..malas nanti like dom one

3ft tank considered nano meh?

aiyaa sifo reply to u....say the small tank using one small pump one ler

Marine/Reef tank can use tap water? I read at some site say cannot and not good. But I use it for my marine tanks.. no problem so far. And any other water source is expensive for me, cannot afford. unsure.gif

can ler..mostly reefer around malaysia use tap water one ..including myself of coz filter water is better compare to tap water

Oh.. good to know that. Cos I read in many ang moh sites that its a newbie mistake to use tap water. Must use RO water and all that. But I keep my mantis shrimp few months seems quite ok. Molted once around CNY.

Another question, you know where to buy mantis shrimp? I bought mine from the Pet safari in Ikano, and I've never seen another one anywhere since then. I don't want those small ones that come as pest, I want big ones like mine.

depends on where you read the site from. cos different country, different location - tap water condition will be different.

The websites probably from some western country like USA. Is our tap water here very clean?

hard to say la. my area and your area come from different source and go through different filteration.

wow .. there' a topic for reef again ~ mine died long ago sad ~

yeah you started in Kopitiam before.
but it's now continued as.....
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=203388

If rear those saltwater fish in 1 feet tank , how much do you think the cost around ?

Or how about 4 feet 1 ?

i'll get back to you when i'm done with mine. it's around 16" (that's 1 1/3 feet)

estimated cost la
pump 20
salt 20 - 40
sand 20 - 40
live rocks - ??
fish - ??
lights - 40
hydrometer - 40
test kits - 40

so yeah, i think that's it. did i miss out something? i hope not.

Hydrometer need 40 meh ?? Get those plastic swing-arm type RM20+ enough loooo....

Test Kits 40 ?? Maybe more than that lah ... NO2 one about RM20, NO3 one about RM35, KH, PH about RM15 each ...

Can use our tap water, but the silicate deposits from our tap water will introduce ugly diatom (brown) algaes. Recommended to use mix salt-water for at least 1 day before introducing it into the tank.

Salt-water aquarium is easier to keep (provided u have appropriate equipments) compared to fresh water IMHO.

btw goldfries, myfish.info forum is very dead lah ... those who wanna find out more about reef tank and marine fishes pls visit http://www.myfish.info

hydrometer or those swing swing one..not accurate one
confirm lari +- 6 point or so one

Testkit .... buy no3 only other...SKIP but must understand how cycle work only work..and also must wait full period if not buy no2 waste money one

tap water does contain thing ;P if u cycle properly and using right equipment and stuff brown diatom never come one

itu website..mati becoz something happen mah

Me only FOWLR keeper, swingarm hydrometer would be enough.

Yalor, NO2 testkit only required during setup, after that no need to use liao. PH testkit also waste money, good salt-mix PH sure around 8.0~8.5 one.

itu myfish forum mati for almost 6 months lah ... zzz

Now I got 3ft FOWLR and a new 1ft baru setup one cycling with damsels kekeke

for marine i rather go chuisui la. freshwater then myfish.

plan to get the swing swing azoo type la.

wahh chuisui also u know kekek....u know the admin or not

swing swing type ah..can also..ask them got refractometer to adjust for u or not if not sure swing swing reading one

donno the admin la. doesn't matter.

eh i posted there already mah.

my 1st marine tank will be a nano. hope it works.

ish ish admin also dunno....smack u...LOL ......

admin mah me lo

hehe. you login as 'admin' or 'tayvin' ?? i haven't seen tayvin's post yet.

mostly admin lo heehh lazy login normal user hahaha

oooo so babylabbit = tayvin !! ??

lets talk about saltwater fish..post ur aquarium picture here...

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Added on February 13, 2007, 12:21 pmif u want to start a new fish tank i give u list of prices here(best size for marine tank is 3feet)

tank 3feetx2feet =Rm70
tank 2feetx1feet(renovated for filtering purposes+pipe)=56
stand low/high RM 60-80

basic thing already RM206

salt my place 1 kg=Rm6 (3 feet must atleast 8-9kg)
live rock 1 kg=RM5
sand 1 bag RM 20
bacteria RM10-50 ( i use the RM 10 from japan)
pump RM 58 ( good pump)
full set of lighting =RM140-170
ph tester Rm12-48 the expensive 1 is RM350
cotton+ball(black colour)+35

this is how much i have spent...

now in my tank only got 3 damsels n 1 cardinal... last time i buy 1 clownfish n butterflyfish dead jor.. coz not same ph...

they say need to wait 1 more week till my water ph get better...

after this i planning to get 1 emperor angel n 1 blue tang




This post has been edited by novo: Feb 13 2007, 12:21 PM

hi there,

this thread was standing still till novo revived it 3 days ago,

i'm also a novice in marine aquarium..just setup my 4 feet tank 1 month ago....fish only tank (FOLR)
..now contains 4 damsel...for conditioning the tank...

waiting another 1 month before i'm putting more fish..anyone have secondhand chiller to sell?

ya i also want to buy 2nd hand chiller if got tell me ...yesterday juz bought a protein skimmer with new pump

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Added on February 19, 2007, 7:28 pmfor anyone that wanna get marine fish aquarium set i will help u to get a full set
a good price...but the shop is in ipoh...

the price is normal tank for marine aquarium 3feet+.. coz marine life need alot of space

price is tank 3feet + 2feet(filter) + high stand + pipe(filtering system)
=RM 206

lighting set(blue&white)
=RM150

filter item(sponge / black ball / skimmer(if u got extra budget)
=RM20 + skimmer(3feet better get RM100+)

salt
=RM6-7 per kg if u buy a bag its RM38-40 per 6.6kg(3feet must atleast 8kg)

coral chip / live rock / live sand (to get a better ph)
=depending on lfs sum sell in kg sum sell in bag

chemical(anti chlorine / ph test / trace element / bacteria)
=depending on brand

pump( if u get a skimmer u need 2 pump)
=better use the expensive 1..coz can use long...recommend brand is ATMAN AT-105(RM58) i use 2 of this pump in my filter set

hidrometer / chiller(this is the most expensive item in marine tank.atleast RM700+
=u can get the cheap hidrometer(floating type)RM10 only

maybe thats all the price list i had spent for my tank....maybe i have forgeting sumthing but i thk thats all..if u wanna get a marine tank pm me coz this price is cheap than other place i had go.





This post has been edited by novo: Feb 19 2007, 07:28 PM

hi..im beginer for saltwater tank..i need some help..iv run my tank for 2 month..i have 2 ft tank and the red slime diatom was my problem..i dont know how to solve it..my tank is fowlr tank..i use 15w white fluorescent and 15w super artinic marine blue..i use 240L ista protien skimmer and hang on filter with phosphate wool..could somebody help me??

how long lighting on per day , any direct sun light ? how is ur water condition, tested nitrate level? ur surface skimmer might not be so effective.

anyone know where i can find a ATO system in malaysia?

ive change my light from flourecent to power glo 20 watt, 18000K.
lighting per day = 10 hour for power glow and 15W artinic blue
ive never check my water condition since the water test so pricefull
i think my skimmer work effectively coz ive use double channel(air pump) for woolstone and 1 channel for water outlet.
i also use nitrate remover and phosphate remover media.
any suggestion??help me... ..
i would like to ask, if i pair my maroon clown fish, will them be more aggressive??

what ATO system?? what use??

since is fowlr tank, can try to reduce to 8hrs your lighting.
what kind of fish you have now? if you have a big 1 in your existing thank than get a small 1, else the opposite.
that;s recommended by ppl mostly.

auto top off , to replace vaporized water.
i use 2 fan , big 1 runs in morning and small 1 runs at night after light off via timer so this gadget can come in handy for me especially when i'm travelling.

http://www.marinedepot.com/dosing_pumps_to...__index-ap.html

i have 1 maroon clown, 1 clicki clown, 2 damsell, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 algae balenies, and 3 anemonae...if i pair my maroon clown,
will they become more agressive in my tank??my tank only 2 ft..

you try find on ebay..i think they have ATO sys...

This post has been edited by ruknu: Aug 9 2009, 08:34 PM

3 anemonae, that's cool, what kind you have there?
i'm kind of sceptic when it comes to anemonae, hard to keep.
so far i keep only 1, purple long tentacles anemonae for my african clown.

ebay those not local also. now i have to refill 2 litre of water everyday, kinda troublesome, maybe should invest for a chiller.
how big is your maroon clown?

anyone have any idea what is this material?

i plan to diy make a chiller using the computer fan like this 1

i don't know what exactly my anemone type @ name..
what im sure, 1- have purple tip and long tentacle, 2- yellow tentacle and at their tip is grey,
3- have long tentacle,red root and blue + purple tentacle..
my maroon fish is about 7cm long..

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Added on August 12, 2009, 10:48 pmi think if i dont mistake, on the 1st pic, think it is power slot..
in pic 2, i dont know..

can u tell me how to make that??? im very interesting coz to buy a chiller is very costly.
i have hang on filter..

what equipment in your tank??how big is your tank??

This post has been edited by ruknu: Aug 12 2009, 10:48 PM

been doing research whole day, is TEC, thermoelectric cooler. that plate is call peltiers plate where electricity flow from 1 side to other and bring the tempreture down a bit, not much. but if the tank is small than it will be able to bring down 2-3c which should be enough.

electricity bill wise also friendly.

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g30/c105/l...Coldplates.html

i saw an article someone bought thermaltake subzero g4 heatsink,fan + plate for rm50


how to use it is simple, cut a square size hole like the photo here in the hanging filter, glu it up, so this small compartment will cool the water up faster.


or can check this 1 out

http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem.aspx?idproduct=CW1131


this only works if not so big tank, i have a 33gallon tank (exclude sump tank, an overflow system) so is kinda hard for it to really work effectively to bring the temp down.

planning to get a hailea HC-100A chiller for 300L (850bucks) but now no stock pulak. damm... 400L pulak overkill and bulky, haiyy, weekend will go island fish shop ronda ronda











This post has been edited by alexlow: Aug 13 2009, 02:31 PM

not much..only rm50..
can you show me how to make that chiller??coz i plan to convert my fowlr to reef tank..
where i can get all the equipment??

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Added on August 13, 2009, 8:00 pmwill my maron clown become more agressive??

This post has been edited by ruknu: Aug 13 2009, 08:00 PM

where got rm50 only. you still need to get a hang filter (30), adapter (20) for it. probably rm120 at the end

another option is buy direct from this fella.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/Aquarium-Base-DIY-C...id=p4634.c0.m14

maroon clown... hhm..actually hard to say, try to get a small 1 and slowly introduce. get a plastic container to seperate them first but able to see each other, wait until your old clown no longer attack it than only release.

This post has been edited by alexlow: Aug 13 2009, 11:49 PM

can i use com fan cooler to make chiller??i already have hang filter and what type of adapter??
can u give a full spec??i want to budget my money and spend on coral..

for my maroon, i've only got 1 and i would like to know if i paired with new one,
will my paired maroon will become more aggressive to other tank mate @ other fish??

i've got my anemone at local store at trg.

This post has been edited by ruknu: Aug 14 2009, 12:19 AM

u can use fan to blow the water surface directly, water vaporize will disperse heat.

tec is a special type of cpu fan, not normal cpu fan. thermaltake subzero g4 is one of it, there are other brand, cpu fan normally power by 12v supply

should be ok, diff species normally they don't bother.

thank a lot for your info and help..

no problem mate, just sharing.

can u tell me where to find TEC Thermoelectric Cooler Peltier in local store ??

this i not sure, you need to go lowyat check, thermaltake got some TEC cpu cooler

my lobster wack my golden head goby, sob~~ haiyyyy problem problem

too healthy grow too big also problem

tq..very problem.. but,keep a try..

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Added on August 22, 2009, 11:45 pmcan u tell me what type equipment to properly run reef tank for 2 ft tank??
what i've got:
1. 2 powerhead
2. hang on filter ( will be modified to add TEC for cooler the water)
3. 240L ista protein skimmer (use 2 channel air pump)
4. digital thermometer.
5. canister filter.
6. 20w 18000k power glo
7. 15w arsenic blue
that it..can u tell me what to add??
it's my light system ok??coz i think i want to add 20w 6500k life glo..it is ok for my reff??

This post has been edited by ruknu: Aug 22 2009, 11:45 PM

hard to say, what is the depth of your tank & what kind of coral you plan to keep?
18000k, i prefer not too high K rather than have more tube with various spectrum, i use 4 x 24w
now technology has improved a lot, not necessary to go until MH for normal reef setup.

as for cooling, long term better get a chiller, as you add more lighting your water will boil.
look for 2nd hand, many people upgrade their tank & will sell their chiller.

stable water parameter very important for reef tank, if can make a sump tank than will be good,
you can shift you skimmer to the sump tank, also you can have space to put proper carbon filter, po removal,
even a refugium.

depth of my tank is 1 ft..
thank

for shallow tank, your lighting should be enough already,$
should consider more on keeping your water parameter stable
temp should be 26-27c all the time, nutrients level should be low
guessing phosphates should be quite high, with the over intense light, red slime can grow quite fast.
dump a sea urchin into it, in a few days, everything will be shining shining.

thanks....ur very helpfull

np, just do it right, this hobby requires a lot of knowledge.

can go to mph, get a copy of marine reef aquarium handbook
http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Aquarium-Hand...n/dp/0764136747

www.chuisui.com : Malaysia Marine Club

yup, but prefer reef central
http://www.reefcentral.com/

before plan to get new live stock, can come to this website to study first
not everything we are capable of keeping.
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/marine/angels/angels.php

where i can find cheap nano chiller??my tank only 2ft..

can look for 2nd hand from forum & lfs shop, bought my resun cl450 for 500bucks
however i still use fan while around, chiller dun kick off, not so noisy,
top up water occasionally also beneficial to the system.
while away is purely on chiller. temp set to 26c, stay 27c all the time.

got budget than can get a new hailea 130A, cost around 850, silent, price good & got 1 yr warranty.
previously i checked, only have white, i prefer dark to match my hse & this 2nd hand unit bump in the right time.
*might upgrade tank in future so get bigger chiller is ok.

This post has been edited by alexlow: Sep 7 2009, 01:44 AM

do u heard ice prob chiller??where to find it??i try to find 2nd hand chiller but not found..
could help me??

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Added on September 27, 2009, 8:24 pmanyone want to sell small chiller??

This post has been edited by ruknu: Sep 27 2009, 08:24 PM

ok, if i encounter i let u know, how many gallon is ur tank? + sump if have

i have 3 power head filter include one of my skimmer and my tank is 2ft longx1ft heightx1ft wide..it about 12 to 15 gallon..

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Added on September 28, 2009, 8:00 pmmy tank temp 30c

This post has been edited by ruknu: Sep 28 2009, 08:00 PM

30c, thats hot, better put a fan blow direct to the water surface for the time being, should bring it down to 28c.

thanks a lot..if u have o heard anyone to sell chiller,please inform me..

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Added on October 3, 2009, 1:22 amwhere i can find peltier in malaysia??i want 12v 6A peltier..it is enough to make chiller for 2 ft tank??

This post has been edited by ruknu: Oct 3 2009, 01:22 AM

the level 3 fish shop at perangin mall got sell the probe type chiller you want (rm180), got few models, also got mini size chiller(rm580)

okey...thank...

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Added on October 12, 2009, 11:03 pmi want to ask,will star fish eat coral??i have red color star fish..

This post has been edited by ruknu: Oct 12 2009, 11:03 PM

hey what do damselfish n clownfish eat besides pallets?

im cycling my tank now with a 3 stripe damselfish and i'm afraid that the pellet remnants will contaminate the tank or should i just leave the uneaten food that sunk to the bottom?

brimeshrimp, mysis, cyclops ezee & basically meaty seafood.

not too much is ok, it will be decompose by bakteria, also you can get some bottom dweller to compliment your eco-system, eg: blenny fish, prawn, lobster, sand star which will help you to sapu those food laying on the sand bed.

skimmer will help reduce the biomass.

tempreture 28c below also reduce chance of amonia spike which is the last thing u want to try.

damsel are very territorial & bully, if decide to do a reef tank & keep more variety of fish.

should consider take them out.

now i have one 3 stripe damsel.

my tank is pretty small, 1.5ft height n 2ft length, 1600l clip on filter, and a protein skimmer.

later in a month planning to get a pair of percula and an anemone.

if i add a blenny fish is it too much for my tank? or could u recommend me any other bottom dweller.

and thanks a lot,your info is very helpful for a newbie like me.

my tank


This post has been edited by Evrae90: Oct 16 2009, 01:49 AM

i want to ask,will star fish eat coral?? i have red color star fish..

can't see clearly, is that "overflow" hangon filter? need use proper marine type, not fresh water flower loh han type. lol
pair of percula & blenny sure no problem.
as for anemone, need very stable water tempreture, use a fan & try let it stay at 28c as much as possible.
anemone also have many type, choose the right type you can keep.

yeah hang on filter. cannot use ?
its an RS-4000 1600lh bio filter.

This post has been edited by Evrae90: Oct 16 2009, 07:21 PM

that's not marine hang on filter, no overflow.

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Added on October 16, 2009, 9:33 pmsome will, especially those wega, small size & will replicate very fast.
star fish got over 2000 species, need to identify only can know.
for me i only keep sand star to vacuum my sand white white.


This post has been edited by alexlow: Oct 16 2009, 09:33 PM

what do you mean by overflow?

if u mean water flowing back into the tank, then there is overflow.

the hang-on filter will have U-shape pipe to draw surface water
or the suction pipe have holes near water surface area to allow the water to flow in
i use dolphin A2000 for my quarantine tank, cost around 70bucks, boyu brand cheaper around 30-40

HOB filters? i don't use HOB.

my last marine tank was just the normal pump, no skimmer also. cheapskate setup but it was really well.

subject to what you keep inside your tank. if do regular water change and keep hardy fish & coral it should be fine
but if you plan to keep more elegant type of corals. is more complicated

oh. there are holes near the top of the pipe to get surface water.

now 10 days passed, waiting for the algae to grow. cant wait to put in more livestock inside.

that's an overflow type

10days, depens how you kick start your tank, some noneed so long.

just help a friend setup his tank last wk, already hosting fish now

just test your nitrite

cool. the petshop guy near my house ask me wait around 2 weeks den can add more fish, and for anemone gotta wait a bit longer. he said a good sign that the cycle has begun is the growth of brown algae if im not mistaken but i cant see any signs of algae.




anyone know whats the white thing floating around? I scraped it off the rubber lining at the aquarium's angles.

This post has been edited by Evrae90: Oct 21 2009, 11:45 PM

you get water from LFS or your friend which already have establish tank when they do WC, the more you get the shorter the cycle.
or you get product like microbakter + biofuel from birghtwell, other brand like kent , DT also have their own solutions but does the same thing,
lastly you can add live rock which will bring along all kinds of creatures, can be good seed of corals or parasit also, depends on your luck.
your rock seems dead.

as for the white thing, maybe hydra coz algae normally have color pigment. anyhow just scrap it and suck it out.

alright thx. i have been using a bottle of photosynthetic bacteria for the tank.

what brand? dump some stinky char keoy teow prawn, raise the tank tempreture

some kind of chinese brand not sure



i've got some brine shrimp. should i dump some inside?

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Added on October 24, 2009, 12:15 ambtw my nitrites at 0.3 i duno whether its rising or decreasing.

This post has been edited by Evrae90: Oct 24 2009, 12:15 AM