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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Dec 9 2008, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(WIRA6462 @ Dec 5 2008, 12:52 PM)
Dear all seniors,

after reading 26 pages, i guez wat i can do to increase the performance for my Wira 1.5 (A) Carb. is as follows;

1.) Change ori extractor to powerzone 4-2-1
2.) Chg air filter to at least aftermarket drop-in or open-pod type. Powerzone air intake manifold, any comment ?
3.) i think wira stock muffler is already s-flow type, rite?
4.) is ori exhaust pipe ok or not ? need changes ?
5.) What about ignition system ? any effect in terms of power & FC performance ? What can be done here ? hmm.gif
6.) Last would be to replace stock camshaft to powerzone camshaft ?  icon_rolleyes.gif

Wonder how much increase in perfomace would it be after done all these upgrades ? brows.gif

Can advise a little bit more ? notworthy.gif
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try to use a lightened & dampened crank pulley first......... u'll be plesantly surprised by the performance increase, especially for an auto transmission car......
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post Dec 9 2008, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 7 2008, 11:03 PM)
header can be intake manifold or exhaust manifold...
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which one gives better performance ? or if change both then double the performance la rclxms.gif
Btw if change exhaust manifold & put in open air pod intake system can increase by how many hp ? hmm.gif


Added on December 9, 2008, 10:07 am
QUOTE(maddriver @ Dec 9 2008, 09:16 AM)
try to use a lightened & dampened crank pulley first......... u'll be plesantly surprised by the performance increase, especially for an auto transmission car......
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Not sure about this, is lightened flywheel & crank pulley the same thing ah ? or 2 diff things but need to do at the same time ? rclxub.gif

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post Dec 9 2008, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(WIRA6462 @ Dec 9 2008, 01:03 PM)
which one gives better performance ? or if change both then double the performance la  rclxms.gif
Btw if change exhaust manifold & put in open air pod intake system can increase by how many hp ? hmm.gif


Added on December 9, 2008, 10:07 am
Not sure about this, is lightened flywheel & crank pulley the same thing ah ? or 2 diff things but need to do at the same time ? rclxub.gif
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two different things..........a lightened crank pulley is a plug and play part......... click my siggie to find out more.....
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post Dec 9 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Dec 9 2008, 12:32 PM)
two different things..........a lightened crank pulley is a plug and play part......... click my siggie to find out more.....
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Thanks for your infor. very useful tech. explaination. rclxms.gif So, how much r u selling your mythelogy pulley ?
How fast is the installation for tat?
Maddriver, can advise me more on how to improve my wira performance ?1.5 (A) carburetor engine icon_question.gif
Do u think if change the exhaust system from extractor to piping & muffler on top of changing to lightened crank pulley will give a boost to the hp ? brows.gif


Added on December 9, 2008, 3:26 pm
QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 5 2008, 05:30 PM)
if you wanna play camshaft, better port the head and do the intake as well as an oversized TB, finish up the combo. cam pulley to fine tune the camshft (optional but recommended)

Bottom block you can do later. If your car is a 1.6 to begin with, the head combo itself is very effective already
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How much it cost to port the head normally ? do the intake means to get a good air filter system ? What is oversized TB ? Can advise more pls notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(WIRA6462 @ Dec 9 2008, 05:48 PM)
Thanks for your infor. very useful tech. explaination.  rclxms.gif  So, how much r u selling your mythelogy pulley ?
How fast is the installation for tat?
Maddriver, can advise me more on how to improve my wira performance ?1.5 (A) carburetor engine icon_question.gif
Do u think if change the exhaust system from extractor to piping & muffler on top of changing to lightened crank pulley will give a boost to the hp ?  brows.gif


Added on December 9, 2008, 3:26 pm
How much it cost to port the head normally ? do the intake means to get a good air filter system ? What is oversized TB ? Can advise more pls  notworthy.gif
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installation takes half an hour....... btw, what's the condition of the engine like? done how many km? before u think of seriously modding the car, u need to see if the engine can take the extra stress. a fast road spec camshaft and a ported and polished cylinder head will be good, but can the engine take the extra stress the additional power will bring?
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post Dec 10 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Dec 10 2008, 09:35 AM)
installation takes half an hour....... btw, what's the condition of the engine like? done how many km? before u think of seriously modding the car, u need to see if the engine can take the extra stress. a fast road spec camshaft and a ported and polished cylinder head will be good, but can the engine take the extra stress the additional power will bring?
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Mileage 95K+, engine with no major problem except some m-oil leaking at the timing belt seals as informed. PnP cylinder head cost me how much ? do u sell extractor also ? cool2.gif
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post Dec 10 2008, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(WIRA6462 @ Dec 10 2008, 07:29 PM)
Mileage 95K+, engine with no major problem except some m-oil leaking at the timing belt seals as informed.  PnP cylinder head cost me how much ? do u sell extractor also ?  cool2.gif
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post Dec 11 2008, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(WIRA6462 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:29 PM)
Mileage 95K+, engine with no major problem except some m-oil leaking at the timing belt seals as informed.  PnP cylinder head cost me how much ? do u sell extractor also ?  cool2.gif
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oil seals leaking i shall assume , kinda dangerous when m-oil contacts with timing belt , go get this fixed asap

p/s : maddriver are u back ? mind pm-ing me ur address , wanna drop by and have a small chat ... thanks
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QUOTE(812799 @ Dec 11 2008, 12:13 AM)
oil seals leaking i shall assume , kinda dangerous when m-oil contacts with timing belt , go get this fixed asap

p/s : maddriver are u back ? mind pm-ing me ur address , wanna drop by and have a small chat ... thanks
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Thanks for your advice. Will get it done by this weekend. Hopefully no need to change whole set of timing belt
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coz i just change it no so long ago about half a year only Btw, will it affect my m-oil if chg the oil seal ??


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QUOTE(maddriver @ Dec 10 2008, 06:39 PM)
u got pm
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got your PM Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 14 2008, 11:21 AM

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Some advice pls..

What is the optimal size(diameter) for air intake pipe for myvi??


Btw, mine is a Myvi 1.3 auto.

Thanks.


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post Dec 14 2008, 11:40 AM

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some lenghty read:
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/engine..._exh/index.html

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post Dec 14 2008, 04:30 PM

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Thanks b00n for the informative article but if im not mistaken, it is talking about exhaust system and exhaust piping rather than CAI piping to the airbox.

Anything on that? smile.gif
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post Dec 15 2008, 12:42 PM

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I'm planning the following mods on my 1.5 VDO Satria;

1) Powerzone 4-2-1 extractor <--price? (should I get a full 1.75" exhaust aswell or main stock pipes?)
2) CAI intake (maintain my stock air filter or "high flow" type?)
3) Lightened crank pulley (not undersized)

Looking for improved response & torque across the rev range. Are those the right mods to achieve those goals?
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QUOTE(mindtricks @ Dec 15 2008, 12:42 PM)
I'm planning the following mods on my 1.5 VDO Satria;

1) Powerzone 4-2-1 extractor <--price? (should I get a full 1.75" exhaust aswell or main stock pipes?)
2) CAI intake (maintain my stock air filter or "high flow" type?)
3) Lightened crank pulley (not undersized)

Looking for improved response & torque across the rev range. Are those the right mods to achieve those goals?
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good choice to start with...

1) powerzone extractor cost about rm4xx
2) recommend u to get drop in air filter... but with the u-snorkle removed.... U-snorkle causes vr high restriction in the air flow coming in...
3) if u got budget, get methology lor..
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post Dec 16 2008, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(mindtricks @ Dec 15 2008, 12:42 PM)
I'm planning the following mods on my 1.5 VDO Satria;

1) Powerzone 4-2-1 extractor <--price? (should I get a full 1.75" exhaust aswell or main stock pipes?)
2) CAI intake (maintain my stock air filter or "high flow" type?)
3) Lightened crank pulley (not undersized)

Looking for improved response & torque across the rev range. Are those the right mods to achieve those goals?
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not worth the change.since urs is a vdo,just de-cat and replace the resonator with a bullet.maintain the same piping following the original route.


Added on December 16, 2008, 3:02 am
QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 14 2008, 11:40 AM)
any one can cut and paste,the point would be the explanation.

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QUOTE(ryan_hustler @ Dec 16 2008, 02:54 AM)
not worth the change.since urs is a vdo,just de-cat and replace the resonator with a bullet.maintain the same piping following the original route.


Added on December 16, 2008, 3:02 am
any one can cut and paste,the point would be the explanation.
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wira se extractor is good enough rite??... what about the oem piping size??... unsure.gif
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post Dec 16 2008, 11:45 AM

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hi guys,
can i ask something? quite noob about this
i driving a new version kancil 660 manual
i already change my extractor and muffler
the piping still stock
now got 2 box in the middle,i don know wat thing is that,izzit mid box?
can i remove it? or change to better 1?

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QUOTE(xdd1987 @ Dec 16 2008, 11:45 AM)
hi guys,
can i ask something? quite noob about this
i driving a new version kancil 660 manual
i already change my extractor and muffler
the piping still stock
now got 2 box in the middle,i don know wat thing is that,izzit mid box?
can i remove it? or change to better 1?
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midbox / resonator.... i'm not sure if either one is a catcon...

anyway, u can remove both if u like and replace with a highflow midbullet...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 16 2008, 07:15 PM)
midbox / resonator.... i'm not sure if either one is a catcon...

anyway, u can remove both if u like and replace with a highflow midbullet...
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thx for the reply smile.gif

icic
if i change to bullet got any effect on it?
the sound will louder that stock?
sry ask too much blush.gif

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