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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Jul 11 2006, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jul 11 2006, 01:38 PM)
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Hmmm...not sure about Miri though. Maybe you can ask soulfly to recommend you a good shop smile.gif

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thom_chai, for ur 1.3 wira, there's only one sensor which is before the cat, so i dont think it'll screw up the sensor.egiewan's driving a civic meh,different from our proton. tongue.gif but u must know that removing the cat will increase the noise a bit..im still modifying my setup to reduce the noise sweat.gif
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QUOTE(x800 @ Jul 9 2006, 11:31 PM)
i ran on direct pipe for only a couple of days, then i installed a bullet...huyo ur fren uses 3 bullets..maybe i can try add one more too but $_$ sweat.gif thx for da advice smile.gif
I would say.... adding more than one bullet is idiotic. 3 bullet is.... shakehead.gif

Better spend on good muffler instead of adding too many bullets. Bullet restricts exhaust gas flow and installing too much of it is just a waste.

You get better performance/noise ratio with good muffler plus 1 bullet, compare to crappy imitation muffler with 3 bullet.

Loud exhaust (esp those N1 type like APEXi or 5Zigen) are originally meant for track usage, not road... that's why noise is not a concern.

QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jul 11 2006, 01:38 PM)
M from Miri, Sarawak.
For good workmanship... go to William Exhaust @ Kg.Wireless.

As for exhaust tuning (exhaust diameter, header type, mufflers etc.) you might wanna ask the experts.

Anyway.... you mentioned that you're driving a Wira 1.3 w/ mmc system... right?

You can remove the cat... no problem.

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post Jul 11 2006, 03:35 PM

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my car(4g93p powered) is currently running on a 2" piping(original route from engine, no bullet) with a hks drager lookalike muffler. Not that I have any problems with it(except being loud), is it a recommended setup?



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QUOTE(x800 @ Jul 11 2006, 02:22 PM)
thom_chai, for ur 1.3 wira, there's only one sensor which is before the cat, so i dont think it'll screw up the sensor.egiewan's driving a civic meh,different from our proton. tongue.gif but u must know that removing the cat will increase the noise a bit..im still modifying my setup to reduce the noise sweat.gif
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My system is pretty much stock. I removed the CAT only. From my ears...it sounds pretty much like stock but when I rev abit high...the sound is more garang drool.gif drool.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jul 11 2006, 04:33 PM)
My system is pretty much stock. I removed the CAT only. From my ears...it sounds pretty much like stock but when I rev abit high...the sound is more garang drool.gif  drool.gif  thumbup.gif
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Haha the sound of vtec and also help destroy the environment. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 11 2006, 02:59 PM)
I would say.... adding more than one bullet is idiotic. 3 bullet is.... shakehead.gif

Better spend on good muffler instead of adding too many bullets. Bullet restricts exhaust gas flow and installing too much of it is just a waste.

You get better performance/noise ratio with good muffler plus 1 bullet, compare to crappy imitation muffler with 3 bullet.

Loud exhaust (esp those N1 type like APEXi or 5Zigen) are originally meant for track usage, not road... that's why noise is not a concern.
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thx for ur insight.anyway,i managed to find a halfcut muffler from a mirage (IIRC got jasma tag smile.gif ).izzit advisable to install it?can i expect noise reduction compared to my stock satria muffler?
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JASMA certified muffler are street legal in Japan and the noise is usually quite low.... unless the fiber inside already finish.
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QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Jul 11 2006, 05:31 PM)
Haha the sound of vtec and also help destroy the environment.  tongue.gif
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Who cares about the enviroment...this is not Europe tongue.gif Better ask those JPJ to tahan those damn lorries and buses with thick smoke than my car laugh.gif
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-By removing the center bullet n using direct pipe setup:
1) Is it will effect the fuel consumption?
2) Performance wise?
-Recommend me exhaust house in serdang, anybody?
-Thanks

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post Jul 14 2006, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Jul 11 2006, 02:22 PM)
thom_chai, for ur 1.3 wira, there's only one sensor which is before the cat, so i dont think it'll screw up the sensor.egiewan's driving a civic meh,different from our proton. tongue.gif but u must know that removing the cat will increase the noise a bit..im still modifying my setup to reduce the noise sweat.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 11 2006, 02:59 PM)
I would say.... adding more than one bullet is idiotic. 3 bullet is.... shakehead.gif

Better spend on good muffler instead of adding too many bullets. Bullet restricts exhaust gas flow and installing too much of it is just a waste.

You get better performance/noise ratio with good muffler plus 1 bullet, compare to crappy imitation muffler with 3 bullet.

Loud exhaust (esp those N1 type like APEXi or 5Zigen) are originally meant for track usage, not road... that's why noise is not a concern.
For good workmanship... go to William Exhaust @ Kg.Wireless.

As for exhaust tuning (exhaust diameter, header type, mufflers etc.) you might wanna ask the experts.

Anyway.... you mentioned that you're driving a Wira 1.3 w/ mmc system... right?

You can remove the cat... no problem.
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Thanks for the info bro notworthy.gif I plan to remove the CAT and replace wif normal piping one day. thumbup.gif

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post Jul 28 2006, 10:50 AM

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The newer Proton Saga/Iswara has very good example on bad muffler setup. The exhaust tends to get noisy and noisy after awhile because of low quality fiber inside the muffler. Besides, normal cars should not have noisy exhaust, it is lame. They are even louder than my Tanabe even when my car is in VTEC mode!




so any suggesdtion on how to solve this prob? i meean any suggestion on which muffler i shud get?

btw, its really daman anoyin... its a loud hummin noise when its jus in idle!!!
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jul 28 2006, 10:50 AM)
so any suggesdtion on how to solve this prob?  i meean any suggestion on which muffler i shud get?

btw, its really daman anoyin... its a loud hummin noise when its jus in idle!!!
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Best way is to replace the muffler to those older saga/iswara oem muffler.
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yeah replace back to stock
Everything kao tim, sacrifice performance a bit
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jul 29 2006, 07:05 PM)
Best way is to replace the muffler to those older saga/iswara oem muffler.
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d orri older muffler is... doh.gif

any other suggestion?
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lol.he said replace wif OLDER saga/iswara oem muffler lor.. tongue.gif shouldnt be noisy like the new saga/iswara muffler meh..

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Any recommendations for a wira 1.5 auto?
My mech told me not to do anything to the exhaust system as its quite sufficient already. He advised, If i really want to upgrade.. Get a bigger bullet. Leave everything stock .
Cause if you mod the wrong thing, your fuel cud go up and loss in power.

I feel the Engine is a bit sluggish to rev. Tought maybe By changing an extractor or sumthing will improve it. Especially between the range of 1.5k -> 2.5k. Above that its quite ok.

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Changing extractor definately helps, it frees the engine up and gives better torque at low revs for a 4-2-1 config, just don't oversize the rest of the piping.
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guys, what do you think of this setup for my 1.0 A Kelisa.
-3-2-1 exhaust manifold
-1.8" piping from exhaust manifold through 1 centre bullet until the muffler
-using original piping route

what do you guys think? shall I decrease the size of the piping? what a good decent muffler brand that really recude the noise?

Thanks. smile.gif

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