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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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thom_chai
post Feb 23 2006, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 20 2006, 01:39 AM)
PowerZone's 4-2-1 extractor was RM400 the last time I ask for pricequote. You'll get two for RM800 tongue.gif

For me, a step by step would be extractor -> air filter -> muffler -> camshaft -> piping.

The only problem for camshaft upgrades nowadays, none of the manufacturers seemed to bother making cams optimized for automatics.

I put piping for the last is because oversizing the exhaust piping does not do much. You could even feel power loss at lower rpm. Besides, you're on automatic. For automatic, the best performance mod is to gain as much power as possible from the lower till the midrange rpm.

For the muffler, maybe you could try look for 2nd hand Tanabe s-flow.... they're usually priced below RM400. For value setup, maybe you can get an 'F-1' brand muffler. It's kinda 'cap ayam' but my cousin had one of those last time... s-flow type with big 'stomach'. The sound is not noisy. And probably, you can remove the catalytic converter and replace it with bullet silencer to reduce more noise.
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U're from Miri rite? Do u know where can get Powerzone's 4-2-1 extractor and also other Powerzone's stuff like camshaft, exhaust piping, muffler and lots more?
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post Jun 23 2006, 10:19 PM

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Actually, is there any open pod KNN filter for wira efi type airbox?
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post Jun 24 2006, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jun 23 2006, 11:34 PM)
well... you can actually install a custom ram pipe and add open pod K&N
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HOw bout a drop in KNN filter for wira efi airbox? is there such a thing for sell in Miri?
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post Jul 3 2006, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 3 2006, 05:12 PM)
Sparepart shops that carry genuine K&N filters might have them. I'm not sure which shop, but probably you can try ask Siong Fah (Krokop).

Cracked extractor is dangerous if it leaks exhaust gas. Just imagine how hot the exhaust gas there.... and it may cause power loss as well.

If it's just minor crack lines then it probably still okay, but recommended to be replaced to avoid any unwanted problems later.
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Thanks bro Soulfly
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post Jul 8 2006, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Jul 6 2006, 12:49 AM)
Hurm, need some advice here on my exhaust system. I'm using a 1.3 efi satria, n i've changed the stock extractor to a zenden 4-2-1.When i did the change at the workshop, the mech advised to remove the cat converter to ensure the exhaust gas flow is not restricted, so i did juz that. The mech replaced the cat converter with a normal piping. Everything else was left at stock. Relatively I can feel the power at lower RPM (juz wut i was aiming for since i dont like revving high).

After a couple of days i found out that the noise is quite unbearable for me, so i went back to the shop and asked for a solution, n they said to add a bullet (some ppl call center muffler) to replace the cat converter that was removed earlier. I did juz dat n observed a reduction in the noise without any power loss, but the noise reduction was not as I expected. I was wondering if there is anything i can do to make the noise sound like stock again, while keeping (or better, increasing) my car's power?
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How's the fuel comsumption after removing the CAT?
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post Jul 11 2006, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jul 7 2006, 07:32 PM)
I just removed my CAT today...damn satisfied thumbup.gif Tested with my frens car with stock exhaust...my car was ahead by 2 cars flex.gif
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I wanna know, is it actually illegal to remove the CAT?? Is there any sensors/actuators (i dunno how to name them) situated at the CAT?? And how does it affect ur FC? I need ur advice on tat notworthy.gif
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post Jul 11 2006, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 11 2006, 11:04 AM)
At this moment, in Malaysia, it is not illegal to remove the CAT.

As for sensors in the CAT, it all depends on the make of the car. Some only has 1 sensor before the cat, hence removing the cat does not screw up the sensor. Some has a second sensor in the cat or after the cat, which may trigger the check engine light after the cat has been removed.
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Thank you very much for ur informations. Actually after reading good feedbacks from x800 and egiewan, m pretty much interested to remove CAT for my ride too. I'm driving a year 2000 Wira 1.3GLi wif mmc ecu. So, do have any idea about my car if i were to remove CAT, will i screw up the sensor??
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post Jul 11 2006, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jul 11 2006, 01:31 PM)
Send your car to the experts la...exhaust jobs are trial and error stuff. Dun send to those Wei Yip kind la smile.gif Where are u staying btw?
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M from Miri, Sarawak.
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post Jul 14 2006, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Jul 11 2006, 02:22 PM)
thom_chai, for ur 1.3 wira, there's only one sensor which is before the cat, so i dont think it'll screw up the sensor.egiewan's driving a civic meh,different from our proton. tongue.gif but u must know that removing the cat will increase the noise a bit..im still modifying my setup to reduce the noise sweat.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 11 2006, 02:59 PM)
I would say.... adding more than one bullet is idiotic. 3 bullet is.... shakehead.gif

Better spend on good muffler instead of adding too many bullets. Bullet restricts exhaust gas flow and installing too much of it is just a waste.

You get better performance/noise ratio with good muffler plus 1 bullet, compare to crappy imitation muffler with 3 bullet.

Loud exhaust (esp those N1 type like APEXi or 5Zigen) are originally meant for track usage, not road... that's why noise is not a concern.
For good workmanship... go to William Exhaust @ Kg.Wireless.

As for exhaust tuning (exhaust diameter, header type, mufflers etc.) you might wanna ask the experts.

Anyway.... you mentioned that you're driving a Wira 1.3 w/ mmc system... right?

You can remove the cat... no problem.
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Thanks for the info bro notworthy.gif I plan to remove the CAT and replace wif normal piping one day. thumbup.gif

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post Jul 29 2006, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jul 28 2006, 10:50 AM)
so any suggesdtion on how to solve this prob?  i meean any suggestion on which muffler i shud get?

btw, its really daman anoyin... its a loud hummin noise when its jus in idle!!!
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Best way is to replace the muffler to those older saga/iswara oem muffler.
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post Sep 15 2006, 10:02 AM

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I just asked for the price for removing the cat, and he charges me RM200 including a central bullet for replacing the cat. It is resobably priced? Btw, bro Soulfly did mentioned that adding more than bullet in our exhaust setup is not neccessary. So should i just replacemy cat with a normal exhaust pipe of the same width? unsure.gif

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post Sep 15 2006, 11:06 AM

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Dunno what's the brand. Will ask for more details again smile.gif
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post Nov 23 2006, 04:39 PM

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Just removed the CAT today. can feel a slight improvement biggrin.gif And as predicted earlier, the noise is getting louder than before.
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post Nov 25 2006, 11:17 PM

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WiSE utilizes 4-2-1 exhaust header, which is a plus point.
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post Dec 20 2006, 09:21 AM

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Now that i've removed the kucing from my exhaust, i plan to install a 4-2-1 exhaust header in the future. The question is, do i need to change the whole piping to complement the new header?
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post Dec 27 2006, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 27 2006, 03:47 PM)
not really necessary, but it is better to do so
But beware of your FC, sometimes it helps sometimes it doens't~~
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You mean by changing the header or the piping that might affects the fc? The header that i wanted is the one from powerzone smile.gif

 

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