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Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0
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x800
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Jul 6 2006, 12:49 AM
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Hurm, need some advice here on my exhaust system. I'm using a 1.3 efi satria, n i've changed the stock extractor to a zenden 4-2-1.When i did the change at the workshop, the mech advised to remove the cat converter to ensure the exhaust gas flow is not restricted, so i did juz that. The mech replaced the cat converter with a normal piping. Everything else was left at stock. Relatively I can feel the power at lower RPM (juz wut i was aiming for since i dont like revving high).
After a couple of days i found out that the noise is quite unbearable for me, so i went back to the shop and asked for a solution, n they said to add a bullet (some ppl call center muffler) to replace the cat converter that was removed earlier. I did juz dat n observed a reduction in the noise without any power loss, but the noise reduction was not as I expected. I was wondering if there is anything i can do to make the noise sound like stock again, while keeping (or better, increasing) my car's power?
This post has been edited by x800: Jul 6 2006, 12:51 AM
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x800
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Jul 9 2006, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jul 8 2006, 09:19 PM) How's the fuel comsumption after removing the CAT? well, i didnt notice any difference in fuel consumption..btw, i juz drive my car to and back from work which is only around 10KM per day  QUOTE(farique @ Jul 9 2006, 12:37 AM) u removed the CAT?.. which means u running on direct pipe? exhaust modification is like trial and error cant really predect which is the best. My fren uses 3 muffler/bullet after the extractor and its sound just nice.. with added sport muffler tip, the sound gets sexier.. its just a Kelisa 1.0.. size of the piping, cant really remember.. i think its just slightly larger than stock Kelisa 1.0 pipe.. i ran on direct pipe for only a couple of days, then i installed a bullet...huyo ur fren uses 3 bullets..maybe i can try add one more too but $_$  thx for da advice This post has been edited by x800: Jul 9 2006, 11:38 PM
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x800
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Jul 11 2006, 02:22 PM
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thom_chai, for ur 1.3 wira, there's only one sensor which is before the cat, so i dont think it'll screw up the sensor.egiewan's driving a civic meh,different from our proton.  but u must know that removing the cat will increase the noise a bit..im still modifying my setup to reduce the noise
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x800
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Jul 11 2006, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 11 2006, 02:59 PM) I would say.... adding more than one bullet is idiotic. 3 bullet is....  Better spend on good muffler instead of adding too many bullets. Bullet restricts exhaust gas flow and installing too much of it is just a waste. You get better performance/noise ratio with good muffler plus 1 bullet, compare to crappy imitation muffler with 3 bullet. Loud exhaust (esp those N1 type like APEXi or 5Zigen) are originally meant for track usage, not road... that's why noise is not a concern. thx for ur insight.anyway,i managed to find a halfcut muffler from a mirage (IIRC got jasma tag  ).izzit advisable to install it?can i expect noise reduction compared to my stock satria muffler?
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x800
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Jul 31 2006, 09:48 PM
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lol.he said replace wif OLDER saga/iswara oem muffler lor..  shouldnt be noisy like the new saga/iswara muffler meh.. This post has been edited by x800: Jul 31 2006, 09:49 PM
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x800
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Aug 16 2006, 08:33 PM
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nicotine, i'm using the same engine as urs, and my car is year 2001.. 1. honestly i did feel the increase in low-end power after changing to the 4-2-1 extractor from the stock 4-1. 2. i am still using the ori piping and muffler, only changed the extractor (and replaced the cat wif a center bullet) 3. i think the fc depends on the way a person drives..for me, after changing to the 4-2-1 extractor, i felt that i dont need to rev more to get pickup, so my fc decreased but not significantly.  4. my extractor is also a 4-2-1 zenden extractor, and it is quite good in terms of cost.there are other brands of extractors out there which costs more (eg. powerzone), and i honestly dont know their performance coz i've nvr used them before.nvr did any dyno testing either for this zenden..
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x800
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Sep 15 2006, 10:58 AM
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what brand is that bullet eh?i installed a zenden in my car for only RM110 (bullet RM90, installation RM20)..replacing the cat wif a normal pipe of the same diameter resulted in a higher noise for my car...
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