Hmm.. Would GT655M SLI be greater than GTX660M in term of performance?

GT650M is pretty close to the performance of the GTX660m already...
If the driver works, it is highly possible that GT655m SLI would be better (if that those are the official GPUs for the Y500)

The price would be higher than Y580 then...

Wow, nice backlit keyboard.. Interesting.

Have been following the topic for a while now.
Registered because I wanted to share a few thoughts.

overall it seems that the lenovo y500 will have 650m in SLI.

Performance-wise, we can compare the 560m-560m SLi ratio and draw some theoretical conclusions:
560M - 2051(3dmark 11)
560M SLI - 3997(3dmark 11)

About 195% improvement, however it only works when both cards are on the same board.
The ultrabay slot might have bandwidth issues and a general bottleneck but overall I expect it to perform at about 170-180% of the GT650m. (Should at the same level as GTX670MX but will probably get a major drop on the clocks so it will be between 580m and 670mx.)
Expect it to burn your lap and make a gash in your wallet.

Regarding the price.
I'm obviously speculating, but if you look at the market, you will see that there is a pretty clear price-performance ratio in most of the mass produced laptops (not including alienware, eos, deviltech etc...).
A 15" (a pretty compact one at that) gaming laptop with 1080p panel, an I7QM and an SLI GPU (Two chips with individual cooling cost more than a single beefy one) should go for about 1050$ for the basic build with the ultrabay card costing additional 250$.

MSI GX60 - Radeon 7970m 1300$
I found more on newegg but all of them are way above the 1.3k mark.

I just hope they do some initial discount and go for 1k-1.1k, but this is the LOWEST price I can expect.

I was hoping to pick it up for 950$ without the ultrabay but it seems pretty delusional considering the design and demand.
>.<

This post has been edited by alexsupreme: Oct 18 2012, 07:48 PM

BTW somebody misunderstand what I write....lol
What I mean is GT655M seems like is GT650M+SLI circuit, so single GT655M would be same as single GT650M

GX60@$1.3k.. interesting.

Still can't find any review about it, i wonder how much that A10 will cripple the mighty 7970M.

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Added on October 18, 2012, 8:49 pmnvm found it. MSI GX60 Review | Feat: AMD Trinity Technology

according from NBR forum, the apu bottleneck gaming performance quite huge on some games.. bringing it down to the level of GT675M.

This post has been edited by Acid_RuleZz: Oct 18 2012, 08:49 PM

Thank you for sharing bro..

What is the meaning "dual graphics" ? Does it refer to SLI???

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Added on October 20, 2012, 3:44 pmWhat if you compare this: Would 2 RM300 be greater than 1 RM400?

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Added on October 20, 2012, 4:32 pmNO, Dual graphics is not good!!! the most high end dual graphics solution ( the HD 7660g +HD 7670m) is worse than the HD 7670m itself due to micro-stuttering and other problems. Sure, micro-stuttering is normal for all SLI and Crossfire solutions.

Look at this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD...cs.81173.0.html

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Added on October 20, 2012, 4:37 pmAs the GT 650m is much equal to GTX 660m, the GT 655m might be a Fermi design of GTX 660m or something else. Better than GT 650m but worse than GTX 660m. I can't really find a gap between these two graphic cards.

This post has been edited by russell612: Oct 20 2012, 04:37 PM

awesome. I think I'm gonna get it to replace my acer notebook.
I'll get those extra fan and oc my gc

Finally, SLI in a much cheaper device!!!!!!!

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Added on October 20, 2012, 5:01 pmBUT the lenovo Y500 have a good competitor, the MSI GE60

This post has been edited by russell612: Oct 20 2012, 05:01 PM

You might want to look up your definition of "cheaper".

Since no updates were to be found regarding the y500 I started looking for laptops with similar performance and possibly upgradeable.
I stumbled upon the Sager NP9130 (Clevo p131em1) which offers a very nice basic build, fully customizable and MXM 3.0b compatible for less than 1200$. (More technical data)
It's a bit heftier than y580 but the PSU is only 120W and the basic build comes with 670m GPU which with some tinkering could be upgraded in a couple of years to another 75w TDP GPU.
It is much easier to disassemble, repair and modify than everything I've seen from lenovo so far and is assembled on demand.

Lenovo would have to show me something remarkable to sway away from the clevo.
I have really hard time believing that Y500 with the dual GPU setup could drop below 1200$ or avoid any heating issues.

And to think that I was so hyped a few weeks ago U__U...
Well, I still wish to see what they come up with.
I'm a huge fan of lenovo laptops and I just hope that they wont mess up their entrance to the real gaming laptops market.

ge60? y580 beat it flat ler...

Agreed, and I also wondering whether the air flow is good or not on GE60 because it's kinda slim for gaming laptop.

For me, mid/high end gaming laptop don't need to be slim, only need great performance and air flows.

But the ge60 has gtx680m!

^that is GT60...

I understand some of the excitement, in terms of design, possible price point, possible performance, etc ...

But I don't buy the swappable bit. Nvidia SLI, as far as I know, only work with GPU with the same model number. Since the primary card in this case is the 650M, you will be stuck with the 650M ultrabay as well. I don't think you could later buy a 680M ultrabay (if Lenovo actually release one) and swap it in, unless Lenovo / Nvidia provide the driver support. Unless there is lots of demand for it, don't pin on special driver support from Nvidia, just look at Linux.

Aww... was really hoping this will come with an Ultrabay battery. But it doesnt seem to be the case

You never know. The whole idea of ultrabay is that Lenovo could release lots of them, DVD, Blu Ray, HDD, GPU (in this case), and you may get your battery. You then buy whatever you want, and swap in whichever you need.
However, even for ThinkPad, I find this whole ultrabay thing unwieldy. I am not going to carry all these gadgets to travel. On my desk, a docking station is a much more elegant solution.

the real potential shines if you manage to connect a full size card through that port and make it run even without SLI.
I agree with you regarding the SLI. It's not supposed to be upgradable, but the DIY potential is huge.