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post Aug 23 2012, 08:07 PM, updated 13y ago

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post Aug 23 2012, 08:19 PM

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1.5k% dmg is imba

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post Aug 23 2012, 08:42 PM

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Imba Rain of Vengence + cloud rune
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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Aug 23 2012, 08:42 PM)
Imba Rain of Vengence + cloud rune
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hmm i wonder whats the use of the fourth rune, summon a beast and do 3300% dmg over 12seconds
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ Aug 23 2012, 08:47 PM)
server up btw
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No one uses strafe? I think its quite viable now, but your repair cos will become that of a melee though haha.
One thing that boggles my mind though is strafe with stinging steel (100% extra dmg on crit) does less dmg than rocket rune+ballistics.

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post Aug 24 2012, 12:38 AM

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post Aug 24 2012, 12:54 AM

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ToC damn power, inferno act 1 elite pack, 3~4 vault can bungkus them biggrin.gif
fyi toc also add life tongue.gif I tried ram some reflect damage mob, my health does not drop.

btw using 800+ dps bow with 3% ls and 900+ loh biggrin.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:58 AM

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Damn, Vault:ToC is too good to be ignored, but not too effective to be used as main-damaging ability with my current build.

Instead, I replaced my SS-Lingering Fog with Vault:ToC for kiting / damage avoiding, with 1500% damage as a bonus (and imba)
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I took the liberty to unpin the old one and pin the new one.

Anyway, am using Vault:ToC around as well, until, I vault straight into the arcane orb ball + standing on poison = die before manage to vault another time.

After 1.0.4 patch, Belial just got stronger. Previously using my DH with about 600 resist + 3k armor, strongest hit dmg is only around 30k, wont kill the DH but left him barely alive. Just now Belial hit the same DH for 46k dmg, straight die. (my hp is around 40k)
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post Aug 24 2012, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Aug 24 2012, 01:57 AM)
waa 3 barb, 1 monk..
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Yeap, Monk and Barbs are good friends.

They lick each other.
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post Aug 24 2012, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 24 2012, 03:16 AM)
Yeap, Monk and Barbs are good friends.

They lick each other.
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3 on 1? LoL
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post Aug 24 2012, 06:40 AM

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Sorry, wat is TOC? My d3 is Chinese ver.
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post Aug 24 2012, 08:21 AM

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Last skill rune on vault. When used, it creates a trail of fire.
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 24 2012, 01:50 AM)
Any offer? I can give you 10% discount (based on the price at AH for a similar items).
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Gratz on godly find!! drool.gif
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QUOTE(duabijitelur @ Aug 23 2012, 09:45 PM)
hmm i wonder whats the use of the fourth rune, summon a beast and do 3300% dmg over 12seconds
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i tried the fourth rune since it got buffed - beast & bombs dropping down - silly skills, not going to use it.
maybe my play skills is not good enough, waste of time


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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Aug 24 2012, 07:40 AM)
Sorry, wat is TOC? My d3 is Chinese ver.
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toc = trail of cinders,
when u walk thru, leaves fire trail behind.. pretty cool leh

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post Aug 24 2012, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 24 2012, 12:58 AM)
Damn, Vault:ToC is too good to be ignored, but not too effective to be used as main-damaging ability with my current build.

Instead, I replaced my SS-Lingering Fog with Vault:ToC for kiting / damage avoiding, with 1500% damage as a bonus (and imba)
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if u dont use SS abit dangerous if u see any ELITE with JAILER/FROZEN u will stand there cant do anything.. no ToC xD
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post Aug 24 2012, 01:47 PM

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kawtim butcher leess then 15sec with ToC(damn imba the skill)
mark butcher -grim ripper
place spike trap
and vault butcher and do cross ...but for fun only

but i don go farm using this skill...still prefer
bat,SS,spike trap,mark(grim ripper)...bola shot(if u do mark on enermy u see the bomb goess boooom),cluster arrow or impale or elemental (lighting ball)

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post Aug 24 2012, 02:05 PM

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btw... another server update so will our ToC getting nerfed?
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post Aug 24 2012, 04:07 PM

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tonite gonna try using TOC with meh current tank grenade dh
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anyone can tell me which one is better, 1handbow or xbow?
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QUOTE(metalslug @ Aug 24 2012, 04:11 PM)
anyone can tell me which one is better, 1handbow or xbow?
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Pros and cons.

What you want to play?
Tanky or range shooter?
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post Aug 24 2012, 04:15 PM

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1hand crossbow have the least dmg but high att speed and you could equip shield with it or dual wield.

2h xbow on the other hand have the highest dmg but the slowest att speed.

Most SC will equip a 2h xbow as it provides the highest dmg output and most HC will equip a 1h xbow to equip a shield.
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guys am i be able to reset my templer skills?
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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 24 2012, 04:36 PM)
guys am i be able to reset my templer skills?
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yes. right click re-train
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post Aug 24 2012, 07:12 PM

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Finally broke the 100k no-ShSh barrier. Not with farming set tho cry.gif

I think that I should just sell off the DPS set, wasting slot only (since MF set is mainly used to farm whilst DPS set sitting dust sweat.gif)

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post Aug 24 2012, 10:50 PM

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sad day, dh tank is like a tank with a broken track
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post Aug 25 2012, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 24 2012, 07:12 PM)
Finally broke the 100k no-ShSh barrier. Not with farming set tho cry.gif

I think that I should just sell off the DPS set, wasting slot only (since MF set is mainly used to farm whilst DPS set sitting dust sweat.gif)

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dont keep many eq.
in d3 always got better eq come up.
that y eq always drop price
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Aug 25 2012, 01:01 AM)
dont keep many eq.
in d3 always got better eq come up.
that y eq always drop price
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Roger boss! Then I gotta start selling my DPS set, since I not using them also.. haha.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 25 2012, 01:39 AM)
Roger boss! Then I gotta start selling my DPS set, since I not using them also.. haha.
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=.=, not boss ...

share my finding good eq for this 1.0.4

weapon
Manticore
bow with 2 slot and + cri damage

Shoulder
Vile Ward
High dex
Life %
Life reg
AR

Boot
Ice Climbers
High dex
Life %
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slot

Dead Man's Legasy
High Dex/Vit
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Cri Chance

The Witching Hour
Cri damage
ASI

New Natal Set

Exp->>
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/janz777...1/hero/22240093

add it if u found other
*too many good item, too less gold =.=

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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Aug 25 2012, 08:53 AM)
=.=, not boss ...

share my finding good eq for this 1.0.4

weapon
Manticore
bow with 2 slot and + cri damage

Shoulder
Vile Ward
High dex
Life %
Life reg
AR

Boot
Ice Climbers
High dex
Life %
AR
slot

Dead Man's Legasy
High Dex/Vit
ASI
Cri Chance

The Witching Hour
Cri damage
ASI

New Natal Set

Exp->>
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/janz777...1/hero/22240093

add it if u found other
*too many good item, too less gold =.=
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drool.gif GODLY manticore! Dropped at where with what MF / NV?

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I just wan
windforce and dead man legacy(skill cluster arrow less 5 hatred)

why ...cause the hatred regen of cause...use bat skill.....
cluster arrow pew pew pew

IMO new nata set not so good,ya it boost the dex but only add disp to 20
but regen still sux...
I see old nata set price shot sky high...
helm with soc sell like 30usd...wow
ring with soc sell like 1++usd ...omg

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Yes, after change to legend one hand bow LV 63, my dps shoot up to 62k dps without ss!!


Added on August 25, 2012, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(lksing78 @ Aug 25 2012, 11:27 AM)
I just wan
windforce and dead man legacy(skill cluster arrow less 5 hatred)

why ...cause the hatred regen of cause...use bat skill.....
cluster arrow pew pew pew

IMO new nata set not so good,ya it boost the dex but only add disp to 20
but regen still sux...
I see old nata set price shot sky high...
helm with soc sell like 30usd...wow
ring with soc sell like 1++usd ...omg
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Now wearing old Nataya helm with ruby 29% exp..

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just curious what is you guys dps without ss. .. damm hard to reach 100k tongue.gif
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why wan to reach 100k...got medal kah?..lolx

no need to try so hard..just enjoy and farm the game
found out 30k and above is enough de..since 104 thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Aug 26 2012, 05:29 PM)
why wan to reach 100k...got medal kah?..lolx

no need to try so hard..just enjoy and farm the game
found out 30k and above is enough de..since 104 thumbup.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
bravo...my thoughts exactly.

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Imo 30k would take a long time to kill elites?
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I just noticed Vault:ToC procs critical as well.. as I noticed my Night Stalker passive got proc'd like hell and kept regening during azmodan fight. sweat.gif
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Today I pick up the courage and tried farming with strafe in act 3 and was successful! rclxms.gif

Never thought the day would come where I could use strafe on act 3 haha.
I dont care about effectiveness, its just so easy and so much fun. laugh.gif

Oh yeah...rockets go through walls it seems.
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 26 2012, 12:58 PM)
just curious what is you guys dps without ss. .. damm hard to reach 100k tongue.gif
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consider AR
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90k dps and 600AR > 110k dps 300AR > 125k dps 100 AR
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ToC also hurt u when fight DMG reflect mobs..

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Aug 26 2012, 04:29 PM)
why wan to reach 100k...got medal kah?..lolx

no need to try so hard..just enjoy and farm the game
found out 30k and above is enough de..since 104 thumbup.gif
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hahaha. .. I roll dh just because want to do this self achievement.... now reach 110k dmg but with caltrops increase cc10% rune...
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Aug 26 2012, 07:41 PM)
ToC also hurt u when fight DMG reflect mobs..
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Or vaulting into packs and run out of disc, standing inside and... brows.gif

Anyway, tweaked around my skill build and replaced Steady Aim (sad to see DPS drop tho) with Night Stalker. Can spam vault more often by clearing trashes with BL & regen my disc.
Just need a little more time for elite packs since I lost my burst (cluster bomb) & reduced DPS. laugh.gif

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Dun like TOC, hard to use.. Use gloom is enough for me.
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done some testing. smile.gif


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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Aug 26 2012, 10:17 PM)
done some testing. smile.gif
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Hmm, if the maticore comes with Dex then the dps will be better than existing bow. But most of them are.. so expensive.

For me, I messed around with DPS calculator and seems that Manticore 2 socket (lower tier) is not worth it, since the DPS boost is roughly the same but double/triple the price. Satisfied with my new bow.. haha.
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Aug 26 2012, 11:17 PM)
done some testing. smile.gif
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try remove quiver, can see de different..
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 26 2012, 10:23 PM)
Hmm, if the maticore comes with Dex then the dps will be better than existing bow. But most of them are.. so expensive.

For me, I messed around with DPS calculator and seems that Manticore 2 socket (lower tier) is not worth it, since the DPS boost is roughly the same but double/triple the price. Satisfied with my new bow.. haha.
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what bow u got... I got 1380 crossbow with 85 cd.... $38million.. most ex investment ever!
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 26 2012, 11:50 PM)
what bow u got... I got 1380 crossbow with 85 cd.... $38million.. most ex investment ever!
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Mine cheap cheap bowxbow only.. laugh.gif

1179 dps w/ 64 crit + socket.

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 26 2012, 08:23 PM)
Or vaulting into packs and run out of disc, standing inside and... brows.gif

Anyway, tweaked around my skill build and replaced Steady Aim (sad to see DPS drop tho) with Night Stalker. Can spam vault more often by clearing trashes with BL & regen my disc.
Just need a little more time for elite packs since I lost my burst (cluster bomb) & reduced DPS. laugh.gif
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i vault out not vault in tongue.gif
so mobs follow...see my health go down..quickly SS...
FYI 2 disp regen whistling.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Aug 27 2012, 12:31 AM)
i vault out not vault in tongue.gif
so mobs follow...see my health go down..quickly SS...
FYI 2 disp regen  whistling.gif
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vault out > vortex in directly on top of arcane/desecrator laugh.gif
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provided you have ls / loh weapon then arcane/ reflect damage mob is nothing much smile.gif
with prep, I could spam at least 8 vault. tongue.gif

5 vault for damage, 3 for escape. Been doing this in act 3. In fact many DH were doing this ... Barb & monk thought we were crazy lol.

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damn, i wish they didnt triple nerf dh tank

sadinggggg
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try remove quiver, can see de different..
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Aug 27 2012, 12:51 AM)
provided you have ls / loh weapon then arcane/ reflect damage mob is nothing much smile.gif
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I've been thinking of getting some LOH jewelry to use with vault TOC. It seems to proc REALLY fast. But I'm wary about spending too much on the jewelry as I think TOC's proc coefficient will get nerfed sad.gif

Right now I pop gloom before vaulting in and out of ground AOE. For reflect damage, I prefer to keep my discipline pool for gloom.
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is it just me @ there's other who used caltrops + jagged spiked as the LS/damaging method?
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any1 selling socket crossbow with cri 1000++dps with 900++ LOH?
extra dex n vit if possible...

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i am a failed hunter..died to butcher inferno so many times..lol..managed to chip 3/4 of his hp before he one shotted me..zzz
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Aug 28 2012, 10:43 AM)
i am a failed hunter..died to butcher inferno so many times..lol..managed to chip 3/4 of his hp before he one shotted me..zzz
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Wat is ur build? Dps atleast 40k with ss, ar atleast got 150, armor 2500, hp 20000, may can kill it..
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Aug 28 2012, 10:52 AM)
Wat is ur build? Dps atleast 40k with ss, ar atleast got 150, armor 2500, hp 20000, may can kill it..
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haha everything got..except all resistance.. items wit ar is so freaking expensive..
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Aug 28 2012, 10:53 AM)
haha everything got..except all resistance.. items wit ar is so freaking expensive..
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Emm, try search in ah. Got some cheap..
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Put your search field using this. Rare, lv60, AR 50, Armor, Dex 80, Vit 50. Good one can cost <50K.
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Aug 28 2012, 10:43 AM)
i am a failed hunter..died to butcher inferno so many times..lol..managed to chip 3/4 of his hp before he one shotted me..zzz
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The easiest way is to stack high def (~4k if possible but 3k is alreayd doable for butcher), high vit (at least 30k), and high dex for dmg. I completed A1 inferno in HC with practically less than 100AR. Playing a glass cannon 1 shot death is gonna take plenty of death till you are able to time butcher moves to perfection and also with bit of luck. So, best way is to build better survivabiltiy. Instead of using your gold for repair, use it to buy gear and don't die saving repair cost. Key is not to die often and you will be able to save gold.

As for me, hopefully will be able to complete A2 inferno HC soon, now progressing slowly, so far so good, of course in A2, you will need better survivability stats than what I've mentioned.

Equips are generally pretty cheap now. You don't need to stack high AR to complete butcher. Good luck.
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here's my little info 'bout my DH

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zuh-6753/hero/2299620

For u guys info, i wasted around RM130 to replaced my gear as well as enchantress follower(except the rings). the enchantress using the dropped set amulets, dropped yesterday.

i yesterday clear act 1 within 3 hours. i killed butcher within in 35sec.

indeed TOC is OP and i love using it to killed elites/champion as well as boss.

multishot is VERY good too.

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wanna ask how to increase defence, purely pumping AR+VIT??
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Defense as in armor. Get a piece that has high armor + main stat + vit on it. Not every piece needs to actually be very high armor to achieve ~4k defense. It's extremely doable.


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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Aug 28 2012, 11:28 AM)
here's my little info 'bout my DH

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zuh-6753/hero/2299620

For u guys info, i wasted around RM130 to replaced my gear as well as enchantress follower(except the rings). the enchantress using the dropped set amulets, dropped yesterday.

i yesterday clear act 1 within 3 hours. i killed butcher within  in 35sec.

indeed TOC is OP and i love using it to killed elites/champion as well as boss.

multishot is VERY good too.
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If you switch skills, you can kill butcher even faster. With your build, I think can faceroll whole of inferno already, of course you will need experience first to handle mobs in inferno as DH first before facerolling. You don't need to stack so much att speed IMO. Getting about 2x% is good enough for me. Better to concentrate on crit rate and crit dmg. Having discpline based equips is a great plus too though might not be necessary for you since your survivability stats is very good.

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Put your search field using this. Rare, lv60, AR 50, Armor, Dex 80, Vit 50. Good one can cost <50K.
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this is for which equip ? normally you guys stack AR type on which equip ? glove, boots etc ?
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this is for which equip ? normally you guys stack AR type on which equip ? glove, boots etc ?
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all eq, except weapons
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Just to add best place for at is shoulders, belts, chest pants. Weapons no ar. Rings and amulets get attacking stats. Helm boots and gloves are attacking based also but give ar as bonus
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24% more fire damage taken? good or no good?
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Just to add best place for at is shoulders, belts, chest pants. Weapons no ar. Rings and amulets get attacking stats. Helm boots and gloves are attacking based also but give ar as bonus
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im using a tank built dh and im oni count mainly on dex and weapon dps to do damages. my dh regen 2.6k, loh 2.6k and amour 4k+.
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Aug 28 2012, 06:39 PM)
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Not good bro.take more fire dmg.Espcially since molten/chains/mortar are fire element.
Kripparian who's never die on his barb also died like 3-5 times in his act3 runs after he switched to new andariel.(partly because he used to being so tanky, not because hes undergeared or anything)
Definitely not for hardcore mode.
But its good dps, though.For glass cannon it wont matter too much.

I personally think new andriel is damn good and will switch to it once I got the funds.
Hopefully doesnt effect my dh in terms of tankiness too much.

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sold a bracer today and I never expect it could fetch 80mill. Can someone tell me what so special about this lacuni prowler ?

crit 5.5%, ar 45, ias 8%, to me it's just a piece of crap. anyidea ?

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Aug 28 2012, 07:35 PM)
sold a bracer today and I never expect it could fetch 80mill.  Can someone tell me what so special about this lacuni prowler ?

crit 5.5%, ar 45, ias 8%, to me it's just a piece of crap. anyidea ?

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crit 5.5%, ar 45, ias 8% r good but 90m+ is good price to sell it
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Aug 28 2012, 06:46 PM)
Not good bro.take more fire dmg.Espcially since molten/chains/mortar are fire element.
Kripparian who's never die on his barb also died like 3-5 times in his act3 runs after he switched to new andariel.(partly because he used to being so tanky, not because hes undergeared or anything)
Definitely not for hardcore mode.
But its good dps, though.For glass cannon it wont matter too much.

I personally think new andriel is damn good and will switch to it once I got the funds.
Hopefully doesnt effect my dh in terms of tankiness too much.
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ic thanks , jus sold my old andriel ...
slow slow find, sure got good 1

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Aug 28 2012, 07:35 PM)
sold a bracer today and I never expect it could fetch 80mill.  Can someone tell me what so special about this lacuni prowler ?

crit 5.5%, ar 45, ias 8%, to me it's just a piece of crap. anyidea ?

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Nice sales. Was it bid w/o buyout or bid w/ certain buyout set?
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bidding style, w/o buyout. Started the auction @ 1 mil biggrin.gif
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thanks brudder Lau Pan  smile.gif
bidding style, w/o buyout. Started the auction @ 1 mil  biggrin.gif
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1mil ---> 82mil..

Did the price just skyrocket at last sec or what? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Aug 28 2012, 07:35 PM)
sold a bracer today and I never expect it could fetch 80mill.  Can someone tell me what so special about this lacuni prowler ?

crit 5.5%, ar 45, ias 8%, to me it's just a piece of crap. anyidea ?

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Look at the guaranteed stats here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/lacuni-prowlers

CC and AR are rolled by the "+3 Random Magic Properties", so not every prowler will have it. That's why yours fetched a high price. Congrats!
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Jackpot ^^ i wish i had 1 and sell it in RMAH then can retired D3 dy...

any1 can sell me 2h crossbow cry.gif cry.gif
with atleast 900dps +900LoH + cri dmg 15% + 80++dex + 80++vit with socket?

budjet arnd 500k

very poor dy icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Aug 29 2012, 08:13 AM)
Jackpot ^^ i wish i had 1 and sell it in RMAH then can retired D3 dy...

any1 can sell me 2h crossbow  cry.gif  cry.gif
with atleast 900dps +900LoH + cri dmg 15% + 80++dex + 80++vit with socket?

budjet arnd 500k

very poor dy  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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It's hard to get so many stats in one item while retaining high dps / low cost. My suggestion is to drop the dex, vit and loh, focus on high dps weapon since the other starts can be obtained from other equipments
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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Aug 29 2012, 08:13 AM)
Jackpot ^^ i wish i had 1 and sell it in RMAH then can retired D3 dy...

any1 can sell me 2h crossbow  cry.gif  cry.gif
with atleast 900dps +900LoH + cri dmg 15% + 80++dex + 80++vit with socket?

budjet arnd 500k

very poor dy  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Any weopon with high loh is super high price, where got 500k?? I think 500k can buy a 12xx dps blue bow only..
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sigh, with such stats: 40k hp, ard 400 AR, 3k+ armor, 55k dps (without SS) i need to spend almost 100k per run in act2 for repair, survivability is low.

office block bnet. my skillset goes like this: hungering arrow (spray of teeth), element arrow (lightning ball), bat companion, smoke screen (special recipe), caltrop (2 sec immobility) & preparation (battlescar)

i beliv with this stats many dh can outperform my survivability. how do u guys play ur dh?
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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 29 2012, 10:24 AM)
sigh, with such stats: 40k hp, ard 400 AR, 3k+ armor, 55k dps (without SS) i need to spend almost 100k per run in act2 for repair, survivability is low.

office block bnet. my skillset goes like this: hungering arrow (spray of teeth), element arrow (lightning ball), bat companion, smoke screen (special recipe), caltrop (2 sec immobility) & preparation (battlescar)

i beliv with this stats many dh can outperform my survivability. how do u guys play ur dh?
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That stats is more than enough to farm Act 3 with minimal deaths (dying to stupid packs such as Hulking Phasebeast with Fast / Teleporter).

From your skill build, try switching SoT to Devouring Arrow for more Single-target damage during kiting; and removing a skill and replace with Cluster Bombs for high-burst damage.

Additionally, you may try to use Night Stalker as one of your passive for discipline regeneration.

The build I used to run Act 3 kinda smoothly with similar stats as yours now (but lower DPS) last time was: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;XeY!YaZYYc

Hungering Arrow: Devouring Arrow
Elemental Arrow: Ball Lightning
Smoke Screen: Lingering Fog
Shadow Power: Gloom
Cluster Arrow: Cluster Bombs
Preparation: Backup Plan

Archery
Night Stalker
Steady Aim

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 29 2012, 10:27 AM)
That stats is more than enough to farm Act 3 with minimal deaths (dying to stupid packs such as Hulking Phasebeast with Fast / Teleporter).

From your skill build, try switching SoT to Devouring Arrow for more Single-target damage during kiting; and removing a skill and replace with Cluster Bombs for high-burst damage.

Additionally, you may try to use Night Stalker as one of your passive for discipline regeneration.

The build I used to run Act 3 kinda smoothly with similar stats as yours now (but lower DPS) last time was: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;XeY!YaZYYc
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im a bow user, i tried cluster bombs n it seems the hatred spent vs damage (bow min damage) is not so decent, whereas lightning balls dealing multiple hits/crits (more loh trigger too?), prob is aiming -.- whn encoutering leet/champs that run around u.

how well does night stalker work ah? 'chance to gain 1 disc' how much chance??

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im a bow user, i tried cluster bombs n it seems the hatred spent vs damage (bow min damage) is not so decent, whereas lightning balls dealing multiple hits/crits (more loh trigger too?), prob is aiming -.- whn encoutering leet/champs that run around u.

how well does night stalker work ah? 'chance to gain 1 disc' how much chance??
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About nightstalker chance, I can't really answer that. I'd say around 30% or higher/lower. It procs kinda often when I was at 49% crit rate.

As for the cluster bomb, I did keep both BL and CB. One for trash-killing (and disc regen, since more hits = more proc) and one for bursting elites pack down. And yes, that was with a bow as well (just recently switched to xbow cause it's a cheap deal).

As for aiming, it takes some practice. Easiest is kite them to a certain distance, drop bomb infront of you, continue running. 70% of the time it'll hit them (since they are following you).
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Anyway, an update to my DPS:

[attachmentid=3022824]

Guess it's gonna be a long time before next DPS jump. Final year started, gotta go semi hiatus with gaming again sad.gif
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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 29 2012, 10:24 AM)
sigh, with such stats: 40k hp, ard 400 AR, 3k+ armor, 55k dps (without SS) i need to spend almost 100k per run in act2 for repair, survivability is low.

office block bnet. my skillset goes like this: hungering arrow (spray of teeth), element arrow (lightning ball), bat companion, smoke screen (special recipe), caltrop (2 sec immobility) & preparation (battlescar)

i beliv with this stats many dh can outperform my survivability. how do u guys play ur dh?
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play in a team..lol

my suggestion is to use vault with toc due to only 8 discipline with good damage.

also use shadow power-gloom.. it will enable you to stand there dishing out dmg hoping the creep die before it expire

then get some items with max discipline.

to regen discipline use the multishot thingie with each creep hit give 1 disipline. this is your hatred spender which gives u good disipline refill and decent towards mobs.

passive skill take the one give 1.disipline.per crit

so typical gameplay for melee elites, hit enemy from far, when they come nearer, vault backwards and spray 1 or 2 scattershot to regen back disipline and continue shooting arrow to regen hatred.. keep repeating... its kiting but dmg output is good because of the new vault-toc buff which u can spam a lot with this strategy.. you're pretty much damaging them every second nicely.

if elites got reflect dmg and u no LOH then need to add usage of gloom.
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Anyway, an update to my DPS:

[attachmentid=3022824]

Guess it's gonna be a long time before next DPS jump. Final year started, gotta go semi hiatus with gaming again sad.gif
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that is a nice dps figure
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But still long way to go to chase up with sifus here like Lau Pan's high DPS (and now AR too).
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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 29 2012, 10:24 AM)
sigh, with such stats: 40k hp, ard 400 AR, 3k+ armor, 55k dps (without SS) i need to spend almost 100k per run in act2 for repair, survivability is low.

office block bnet. my skillset goes like this: hungering arrow (spray of teeth), element arrow (lightning ball), bat companion, smoke screen (special recipe), caltrop (2 sec immobility) & preparation (battlescar)

i beliv with this stats many dh can outperform my survivability. how do u guys play ur dh?
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as for me i use hungering arrow (spray of teeth), cluster arrow (loaded for bear), bat companion, shadow power (gloom), caltrop (bait the trap) & preparation (battle scars) passive are grenadier , ss , archery ... if solo i whack with lfb, set caltrop when they kena slow down by caltrops just use HA...if gonna kena gang***g pop up gloom lfb my foot...and those small bomb will settle them


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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Aug 29 2012, 01:56 PM)
Haha thanks tongue.gif

But still long way to go to chase up with sifus here like Lau Pan's high DPS (and now AR too).
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ya some of the lau pan dps here brutal....i use 2 chase it 2 but my current setup i am very happy with high cc and ok cd and good for stutter step

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My Dh best dps in one hand only 54k dps....but no problem from act 1 to act4.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 29 2012, 10:24 AM)
sigh, with such stats: 40k hp, ard 400 AR, 3k+ armor, 55k dps (without SS) i need to spend almost 100k per run in act2 for repair, survivability is low.

office block bnet. my skillset goes like this: hungering arrow (spray of teeth), element arrow (lightning ball), bat companion, smoke screen (special recipe), caltrop (2 sec immobility) & preparation (battlescar)

i beliv with this stats many dh can outperform my survivability. how do u guys play ur dh?
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Your stats seems to be around mine.Im 46k hp, 50k dps, 5k armor, 500 res.

Get loh.It makes the whole difference in the world.Get at least 600, 1k to farm comfortably.
Since you seem to take the balance route, imo gloom is more fitting than smoke screen, so you should change to that.

Caltrops is superbad imo, dont scale against elite at all.
Also, if you dont already using cloak with disc, try to change into one.For me, I got 2 source of disc pool from cloak and bow for a total of 18 disc.It helps a lot for drawn out fights against health link/extra health elites.

If youre using elemental arrow, imho you need to be able to deplete your hatred fast with high attack speed, from 125 hatred to 0 hatred.
If you die before you deplete your hatred, it just means that your build isnt optimal to use it, thats why high hatred spenders like cluster arrow always wins in this regard.
If you deplete your hatred pool 3 times or more and enemies still dont die, than its a dps problem.Thats the gist of it.

Hatred spenders have 3 aspects to them which is utility, dmg to hatred ratio and single/multiple target effectiveness.
Current patch are more balanced, so I think whatever you choose dont really matter.
Im personally using strafe.The dmg to hatred is ok-ish, good for both single and multiple target but the utility is super good. thumbup.gif

my dh
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lucon-6817/hero/1095298

You can see my build there.Very viable for act 3. nod.gif
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DPS dropped 20k for better LOH and Resistance. Looking for better resist gears  biggrin.gif

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Shin6619 quit diablo 3 today, thank you every DH sifu for helping these few months. Tq


Added on August 31, 2012, 10:13 amI really wan to pass my gold and all my DH items to anyone infrerest but now I can't because cheat by player in trade channel and lost every things. But it give one reason to make me quit and got more time with family and work ..

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Aug 31 2012, 10:03 AM)
Shin6619 quit diablo 3 today, thank you every DH sifu for helping these few months. Tq


Added on August 31, 2012, 10:13 amI really wan to pass my gold and all my DH items to anyone infrerest but now I can't because cheat by player in trade channel and lost every things. But it give one reason to make me quit and got more time with family and work ..
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sad.gif Sorry to hear your loss. Yeah, D3 is wasting our time.. a lot..
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hi i still dont understand how critical damage work

let say 2 amulet

a) 200 Dex
Critical change 6.5

b) 134 Dex
Critical change 5.5
critical damage 50%

which more good more dps ?


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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Aug 31 2012, 10:03 AM)
Shin6619 quit diablo 3 today, thank you every DH sifu for helping these few months. Tq


Added on August 31, 2012, 10:13 amI really wan to pass my gold and all my DH items to anyone infrerest but now I can't because cheat by player in trade channel and lost every things. But it give one reason to make me quit and got more time with family and work ..
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how u lost everything in trade channel ?

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i havent play about a month. log in and check AH, the heck why DH crossbow with crits damage + socket so damn cheap now? 1.1k dps ranging from 500k-5m gold only. shocking.gif

few months back it cost >15m. sweat.gif
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let say 2 amulet

a) 200 Dex
Critical change 6.5

b) 134 Dex
Critical change 5.5
critical damage 50%

which more good more dps ?
normal b better, unless ur cri chance very low

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 31 2012, 12:25 PM)
hi i still dont understand how critical damage work

let say 2 amulet

a) 200 Dex 
  Critical change 6.5

b) 134 Dex
  Critical change 5.5
  critical damage 50%

which more good more dps ?


Added on August 31, 2012, 12:27 pm
how u lost everything in trade channel ?
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Like Lao Pan said, usually (B) yields higher DPS but it's totally depending on your current stats.

This DH DPS Calculator is pretty accurate for me, you can use it to compare DPS boost/differences of current item and new items before making your purchase.

QUOTE(sixshot @ Aug 31 2012, 12:30 PM)
i havent play about a month. log in and check AH, the heck why DH crossbow with crits damage + socket so damn cheap now? 1.1k dps ranging from 500k-5m gold only.  shocking.gif

few months back it cost >15m.  sweat.gif
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1.0.4, i61 and i62 can roll high DPS as well. Thus 9xx and 1xxx dps bows/xbows are easy to come by. Thanks to the market confusion I managed to grab my 1179 DPS xbow w/ lifesteal at cheap price laugh.gif
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Good bye vault laugh.gif
Kind of expected from Bliz
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6470437675
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 1 2012, 01:45 PM)
Good bye vault laugh.gif
Kind of expected from Bliz
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6470437675
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Hah! bug as @$$..

..and I haven't even start on enjoying ToC yet sad.gif
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QUOTE(Lawolfe @ Sep 1 2012, 01:10 PM)
Hah! bug as @$$..

..and I haven't even start on enjoying ToC yet  sad.gif
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Utilize it as much as possible now, but don't get too fonded with it tongue.gif

Bliz full of craps as always
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 1 2012, 02:15 PM)
Utilize it as much as possible now, but don't get too fonded with it tongue.gif

Bliz full of craps as always
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not sure if I have to roll a barb/monk later... they seem to be able to ease through act 3 with mediocore eq, while I need to be on my toes 24/7 not to get 1-2 hit my normal mobs. cry.gif
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 1 2012, 12:45 PM)
Good bye vault laugh.gif
Kind of expected from Bliz
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6470437675
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omg i just start to enjoy it cry.gif
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just saw friend using. it was powerful.
but me not yet try it out...
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Fuuuuuu...toc incoming nerf.(even though really expected)

Im still using it now, though.Too good to pass.
Hopefully 1.05 will buff other skills to compensate for the nerf.

Yesterday got outbid on a ring...something over 100mil.
Then right after that, the same damn ring were put into ah for 30mil starting bid again. shocking.gif

If I didnt know any better, its a dupe ring, or someone is so filthy rich he immediately put it on ah after not trying it on for a few minutes.


Added on September 2, 2012, 12:28 amBlizzard forum mods are bunch of morons+tool.
My posts got deleted just because some forumers didnt believe I use strafe in act 3 and report as troll.

Its just a simple post something along this line:
"If you build your dh towards a balanced approach, more skills become viable.I use strafe to farm in act 3"

After few minutes.. bam! deleted.
Furthermore, its marked as deleted by myself.zzz. sweat.gif
Must be some report-happy glass cannons.

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 1 2012, 07:53 PM)
Fuuuuuu...toc incoming nerf.(even though really expected)

Im still using it now, though.Too good to pass.
Hopefully 1.05 will buff other skills to compensate for the nerf.

Yesterday got outbid on a ring...something over 100mil.
Then right after that, the same damn ring were put into ah for 30mil starting bid again. shocking.gif

If I didnt know any better, its a dupe ring, or someone is so filthy rich he immediately put it on ah after not trying it on for a few minutes.


Added on September 2, 2012, 12:28 amBlizzard forum mods are bunch of morons+tool.
My posts got deleted just because some forumers didnt believe I use strafe in act 3 and report as troll.

Its just a simple post something along this line:
"If you build your dh towards a balanced approach, more skills become viable.I use strafe to farm in act 3"

After few minutes.. bam! deleted.
Furthermore, its marked as deleted by myself.zzz.  sweat.gif
Must be some report-happy glass cannons.
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ToC is wrong the first time I read about it here and in battle.net, 1500% damage ? thats seriously OP
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i used demon hunter myself but to be frank, this is the most OP class ever.. the bow with natural cri damage and 2 freaking sockets.. and then this ToC dealing 1500 % damage? completely OP class.. right move by blizzard !
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wat op wat toc omg...
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OP = Overpowered
ToC = Vault : Trail of Cinders

Kinda agree that 1500% is kinda overpowered.. but 300% is too.. useless.
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nerf tank built, nerf toc, dh is op..... so im gonna stop playing dh and play barb coz not tat op using ww....
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 2 2012, 10:00 PM)
OP = Overpowered
ToC = Vault : Trail of Cinders

Kinda agree that 1500% is kinda overpowered.. but 300% is too.. useless.
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haha I tried ToC yesterday and yeah, have to admit it is overpowered. with very few well-timed vaults can sapu elites and what shit.. didn't bother to use my main attacking skills either.

i don't mind the nerf but the excuse given by blizz that disc-based skills were "not meant to be offensive" is pure BS. might as well remove ToC altogether la if wanna make it another typical defensive escape skill.
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QUOTE(leongboyz @ Sep 2 2012, 11:23 PM)
nerf tank built,  nerf toc,  dh is op..... so im gonna stop playing dh and play barb coz not tat op using ww....
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i think btw the time u change to Barb WW then they suddenly realize they forgotten to nerf WW... diablo3 starting to irritate the player with all the BUFF & NERF afterward nonsense
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QUOTE(Lawolfe @ Sep 3 2012, 08:48 AM)
haha I tried ToC yesterday and yeah, have to admit it is overpowered. with very few well-timed vaults can sapu elites and what shit.. didn't bother to use my main attacking skills either.

i don't mind the nerf but the excuse given by blizz that disc-based skills were "not meant to be offensive" is pure BS. might as well remove ToC altogether la if wanna make it another typical defensive escape skill.
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nod.gif Yup. Most of the players do realize the skill is OP and the nerf is justified (albeit its nerfed down to the ground where it's no longer useful); but seeing how blizzard telling stories and claiming it as a bug (I remember seeing blue post about how ToC will be buffed, also the patchnotes etc), seriously, they think we're dumb or what? doh.gif
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 3 2012, 10:35 AM)
nod.gif Yup. Most of the players do realize the skill is OP and the nerf is justified (albeit its nerfed down to the ground where it's no longer useful); but seeing how blizzard telling stories and claiming it as a bug (I remember seeing blue post about how ToC will be buffed, also the patchnotes etc), seriously, they think we're dumb or what? doh.gif
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Exactly.. even caltrops - jagged spikes is use more as offensive than defensive, so blizz wanna nerf that too?

they could have go for better options e.g. incrase disc cost for ToC. It's still worth it and I'll be happy to switch it with SS. right now it's back to usual SS run and pewpewpew again. sad.gif
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Guys...what skills to go for for inferno ACt I/ II? I baru sampai lvl 60 last night so i could use my stashed up gear found while using Wizard for gear hunting.

Any specific stuff for ACT III(incase I co-op)?

My stats are http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Metalfr...6/hero/14719767


Thanks guys!
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sigh~ any suggestion on build after ToC nerfed?
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toc nerf expected already la.. but 300% dmg too low.. last time before the buff was how many %?
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QUOTE(Lawolfe @ Sep 3 2012, 08:48 AM)
haha I tried ToC yesterday and yeah, have to admit it is overpowered. with very few well-timed vaults can sapu elites and what shit.. didn't bother to use my main attacking skills either.

i don't mind the nerf but the excuse given by blizz that disc-based skills were "not meant to be offensive" is pure BS. might as well remove ToC altogether la if wanna make it another typical defensive escape skill.
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Ahaha..i said it from the first day...ToC was OP. But seriously, its OP in Act 1/2...Act 3/4..ToC is risky..as Mob health is high and can 1 hit you.

I dont mind the nerf but to 300% is utterly stupiak. Should be borderline half..maybe 750% over 3 sec.

Not to add salt to wound but seriously..WW Barb is also OP. So the issue here is why selective nerf and close 1 eye? Lots of DH is complaining about that..


Added on September 3, 2012, 11:43 am
QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 3 2012, 10:41 AM)
sigh~ any suggestion on build after ToC nerfed?
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Its back to Glass cannon...since thats how Blizzard want us to play...but I am going to shit on Blizzard and build a dual weilding sword DH....


Added on September 3, 2012, 11:46 am
QUOTE(rockroll5022 @ Sep 2 2012, 02:45 PM)
i used demon hunter myself but to be frank, this is the most OP class ever.. the bow with natural cri damage and 2 freaking sockets.. and then this ToC dealing 1500 % damage? completely OP class.. right move by blizzard !
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Its only Manticore mate..and thats not even 100% 2 socket. smile.gif. ToC 1500% damage is OP that I agree..but to say DH is OP generally..I cant agree.

As it satnds now barb are the OP class. Try to play with a WW barb then you know what I mean....easy as fark..pooping whirwinds..run run run hit smash..run run run...can hardly keep up with them when farming..even vaulting 70% all times.

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 3 2012, 12:23 PM)
toc nerf expected already la.. but 300% dmg too low.. last time before the buff was how many %?
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no one remembered prolly because it doesn't worth shit before the patch?


QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 3 2012, 12:42 PM)
Ahaha..i said it from the first day...ToC was OP. But seriously, its OP in Act 1/2...Act 3/4..ToC is risky..as Mob health is high and can 1 hit you.

I dont mind the nerf but to 300% is utterly stupiak. Should be borderline half..maybe 750% over 3 sec.

Not to add salt to wound but seriously..WW Barb is also OP. So the issue here is why selective nerf and close 1 eye? Lots of DH is complaining about that..
yup i saw that on the forum. frankly i duno how they choose the numbers. from unknown dmg jump to 1500% then down to 300%

macam roll a dice then select the number and never bother to test it themselves.
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opinions on my current build please. tongue.gif

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Currently farming act 1. Doing public butcher runs.

Wanna move up to act 3 for better loots.

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QUOTE(Rahl @ Sep 3 2012, 12:37 PM)
opinions on my current build please. tongue.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/taggyMY...1/hero/16528687

Currently farming act 1. Doing public butcher runs.

Wanna move up to act 3 for better loots.
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Need major overhaul to be able to do well in Act 3.

Basic rule of thumbs: 35k HP, 300 AllRes, 50k DPS w/o SS, 35% CritRate, 250% Crit Damage. That's the minimum.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 3 2012, 11:42 AM)
Ahaha..i said it from the first day...ToC was OP. But seriously, its OP in Act 1/2...Act 3/4..ToC is risky..as Mob health is high and can 1 hit you.

I dont mind the nerf but to 300% is utterly stupiak. Should be borderline half..maybe 750% over 3 sec.

Not to add salt to wound but seriously..WW Barb is also OP. So the issue here is why selective nerf and close 1 eye? Lots of DH is complaining about that..


Added on September 3, 2012, 11:43 am

Its back to Glass cannon...since thats how Blizzard want us to play...but I am going to shit on Blizzard and build a dual weilding sword DH....


Added on September 3, 2012, 11:46 am

Its only Manticore mate..and thats not even 100% 2 socket. smile.gif. ToC 1500% damage is OP that I agree..but to say DH is OP generally..I cant agree.

As it satnds now barb are the OP class. Try to play with a WW barb then you know what I mean....easy as fark..pooping whirwinds..run run run hit smash..run run run...can hardly keep up with them when farming..even vaulting 70%  all times.
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dh the worst class.. stress kanna vortex jailer mortar
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 3 2012, 01:42 PM)
dh the worst class.. stress kanna vortex jailer mortar
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Lol...with ToC mortar i no scared at all, just head in straight vault at/pass them. trick is to stay inside the range..hence they cannot hit you.

Vortex+Arcane+Molten...ahhh..itu deadly to me. Jailer not so scared as SS breaks it or SP gloom. The other thing that pissed me off is REFELCT....itu jia lat if High DPS and low AR...so many time I killed myself...Vault..in shot 2-3 time died!! Lol
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300% damage against elite/rare mobs of act3/4 is like nothing

this is why we can't have nice thing doh.gif
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 3 2012, 02:00 PM)
300% damage against elite/rare mobs of act3/4 is like nothing

this is why we can't have nice thing doh.gif
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I belive blizzrd made a mistake in setting it up in the first place. Damage was intended at 1500%per sec, i.e 300% per tick x 5 ticks per sec.Somehow they coded it as 1500% per tick

FYI..its 1500% of Weapon damage IIRC..hence eg if you got a 1.2k xbow = damage is 18k per tick. 5 tick per sec hence DPS = 90k. Over 3 sec =270k.

Dont know if dex is taken into consideration or not. I dont think so cause if it does...Imagine 90k x say 1500dex = 1.3m DPS per sec. Siow....tongue.gif

Correct me if I am wrong.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 3 2012, 12:43 PM)
Need major overhaul to be able to do well in Act 3.

Basic rule of thumbs: 35k HP, 300 AllRes, 50k DPS w/o SS, 35% CritRate, 250% Crit Damage. That's the minimum.
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oh shiet..

back to wizard =.="
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 3 2012, 02:10 PM)
I belive blizzrd made a mistake in setting it up in the first place. Damage was intended at 1500%per sec, i.e 300% per tick x 5 ticks per sec.Somehow they coded it as 1500% per tick

FYI..its 1500% of Weapon damage IIRC..hence eg if you got a 1.2k xbow = damage is 18k per tick. 5 tick per sec hence DPS = 90k. Over 3 sec =270k.

Dont know if dex is taken into consideration or not. I dont think so cause if it does...Imagine 90k x say 1500dex = 1.3m DPS per sec. Siow....tongue.gif

Correct me if I am wrong.
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probably, I'm no good in counting dps but if they do nerf ToC then i think many would stop using it..me included

this skill is more like "high risk high reward" type where as mine i usually love to 'take one for the team' where i'd
just jump straight into elite/rare mobs and spam atleast 3-4 times toc. But the risk of landing on plaque/arcane/molten while
being frozen/jailed/walled (and risked of one hit kill by hulking phasebeast/enrage blood clan mauler/ demonic tremor) also as high as the ToC damage biggrin.gif

nerf it and i don't think anyone would be interested in using it anymore (unless if u enjoyed farming in act1 of coz) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 3 2012, 12:43 PM)
Need major overhaul to be able to do well in Act 3.

Basic rule of thumbs: 35k HP, 300 AllRes, 50k DPS w/o SS, 35% CritRate, 250% Crit Damage. That's the minimum.
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Expensive. sweat.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 3 2012, 02:16 PM)
probably, I'm no good in counting dps but if they do nerf ToC then i think many would stop using it..me included

this skill is more like "high risk high reward" type where as mine i usually love to 'take one for the team' where i'd
just jump straight into elite/rare mobs and spam atleast 3-4 times toc. But the risk of landing on plaque/arcane/molten while
being frozen/jailed/walled (and risked of one hit one kill by hulking phasebeast/enrage blood clan mauler/ demonic tremor) also as high as the ToC damage  biggrin.gif

nerf it and i don't think anyone would be interested in using it anymore (unless if u enjoyed farming in act1 of coz)  laugh.gif
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Yup...I agree with you. ToC has its risk..to make it effective..DH needs to vault into the mob hence..risk taking a hit/killed. Phasebeat hard to ToC as they just bloody teleport..or demonic is also a pain running around..smile.gif. But seriously..as it stands now its just too good. IT IS kinda OP (I am using it since day 1 post 1.04). Some nerf is justified but 300% is just not worth it. It is just sad to see that DH/monk keeps getting the wrong end of the stick when it comes to nerf. IMO Barb has always been "the apple" of Blizzard's eyes. Lol
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What is de best skil set so far ??? anyone i can see your profile and copy ? ^^.
Btw i don have high AR...
only normal dps and normal HP o.0
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zelda-1697/

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Anyone can share with me how I can further improve my DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/iesnek-1377/hero/11839577

I'd like to be able to withstand Act 3 Inferno.

Haven't had much luck on AH to buy Crit Hit Damage Increase items. sad.gif


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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ Sep 3 2012, 03:33 PM)
What is de best skil set so far ??? anyone i can see your profile and copy ? ^^.
Btw i don have high AR...
only normal dps and normal HP o.0
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zelda-1697/
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i don't have high dps @ fancy item @ such but i can solo act3/4 quite comfortably with this setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wanftw-6346/hero/19875773

QUOTE(iesnek @ Sep 3 2012, 03:58 PM)
Anyone can share with me how I can further improve my DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/iesnek-1377/hero/11839577

I'd like to be able to withstand Act 3 Inferno.

Haven't had much luck on AH to buy Crit Hit Damage Increase items. sad.gif
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stack up your dex & vit if u can. And resistance also(esp Fire resist) since most of the mobs in act3 have fire damage

and since u are using twin xbow setup the same as mine, find the one with socket & life steal (if can find those with
high dex & vit)
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 3 2012, 04:25 PM)
i don't have high dps @ fancy item @ such but i can solo act3/4 quite comfortably with this setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wanftw-6346/hero/19875773
stack up your dex & vit if u can. And resistance also(esp Fire resist) since most of the mobs in act3 have fire damage

and since u are using twin xbow setup the same as mine, find the one with socket & life steal (if can find those with
high dex & vit)
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Thanks smile.gif


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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 3 2012, 04:25 PM)
i don't have high dps @ fancy item @ such but i can solo act3/4 quite comfortably with this setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wanftw-6346/hero/19875773
stack up your dex & vit if u can. And resistance also(esp Fire resist) since most of the mobs in act3 have fire damage

and since u are using twin xbow setup the same as mine, find the one with socket & life steal (if can find those with
high dex & vit)
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i will try out your build tonight : )thanks ..
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 3 2012, 04:25 PM)
i don't have high dps @ fancy item @ such but i can solo act3/4 quite comfortably with this setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wanftw-6346/hero/19875773
stack up your dex & vit if u can. And resistance also(esp Fire resist) since most of the mobs in act3 have fire damage

and since u are using twin xbow setup the same as mine, find the one with socket & life steal (if can find those with
high dex & vit)
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lol your gear is good leh... dps 80k
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 3 2012, 05:53 PM)
lol your gear is good leh... dps 80k
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I think its standard starting dh, can improve a lot.He did a great job if hes able to farm act3 with small loh.
Those dps are post sharpshooter, real dps should be half of that maybe.
The shoulder is good, though.

For me, I think loh is the most important factor for non-glass cannons.Without loh, you wont survive.

If youre getting dps from rings/amulet, there are many dps boosting affix to pick from attack speed, average dmg, crit chance, crit dmg and dexterirty.Dont search for trifecta, sure expensive.
Popular combo like crit chance+crit dmg oso try to avoid if you can.Those are the most expensive even as two affix.

For mortal players like us, less popoular combo like ias+cc or ias+cd are usually cheaper and more cost efficient for dps.Just remember to use dps calculator before you buy.
Can also try to search for sockets to substitute for dex.




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oh yeah... with ss

dunno why people bother to waste a skillslot with ss...

for dh I am always torn between choices of other passive choices for the limit3d 3 slots
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oh yeah... with ss

dunno why people bother to waste a skillslot with ss...

for dh I am always torn between choices of other passive choices for the limit3d 3 slots
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i don't use SS. because it give me inconsistent damage . i prefer Archery + steady shoot . give me consistent damage .
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i don't use SS. because it give me inconsistent damage . i prefer Archery + steady shoot . give me consistent damage .
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I want to jump in on the SS debate. For me ..as a bow user SS is not really a good choice. But I will use it if I am using a 2h xbow for the additional bonus on CD.
Stacking CD and CC up to 20% + SS is the easist way to boost the DPS.. if CC above 30%...can drop SS liao.
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i don't use SS. because it give me inconsistent damage . i prefer Archery + steady shoot . give me consistent damage .
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I don't use SS too as I have >40% crit rate. But SS does not in anyway affects the damage, only the DPS shown on the char sheet (which is not accurate anyway).

It actually just increases the chance to crit, and that's all it does.
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I don't use SS too as I have >40% crit rate. But SS does not in anyway affects the damage, only the DPS shown on the char sheet (which is not accurate anyway).

It actually just increases the chance to crit, and that's all it does.
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hha i only looking at the critical damage on creep only , not sure is true or not . personal feel SS not worth a skill slot if u have high CC.
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does every DH use vault now?
personally, i dont find it that useful. it has nice number of damage but i find that in most coop games (i rarely solo), these demon hunters are actually wasting too much time making an effort to run and vault around too much and die eventually.

nice trick if you dont die, but mostly it's too dangerous and time wasting. i would've killed the whole pack by then. dpsing is even much faster than trying to save discipline and run around to vault forward+backwards.
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hha i only looking at the critical damage on creep only , not sure is true or not . personal feel SS not worth a skill slot if u have high CC.
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Yup, you're right on where it's not worth it when you have high CC (above 30%).

Was just pointing out that SS will not affect damage dealt / critical damage dealt in any way; except boosting the chance to crit.


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does every DH use vault now?
personally, i dont find it that useful. it has nice number of damage but i find that in most coop games (i rarely solo), these demon hunters are actually wasting too much time making an effort to run and vault around too much and die eventually.

nice trick if you dont die, but mostly it's too dangerous and time wasting. i would've killed the whole pack by then. dpsing is even much faster than trying to save discipline and run around to vault forward+backwards.
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Yup. Some DH actually relied too much on vault as a damage dealer and dying too much from it. But if used wisely it'll be a great damage dealer (over a short period of time).

I use it as kiting-DPS skill or engage-DPS skill when first engaged in combat (Gloom+vault front&back > pack died / if not, kite a little or prep & re-gloom+vault.)


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Expensive.  sweat.gif  shakehead.gif
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It actually got cheaper to reach those stats since the mid-tier items dropped in price (more supplies).

Crit Chance: Helm, Bracers, Gloves, Quiver
AllRes: Chest, Belt, Pants, Shoe, Shoulders
VIT / DEX: Appropriate parts (e.g. search for 60dex 150vit 3socket chest, instead of 150dex 150 vit 3 socket which is ridiculously expensive, then top-up the dex from other parts; e.g. belt with 150 dex but no vit / low vit)
CritDamage: Amulet, Rings, Rings, Glove, and a bow with a socket.

Here are some tips posted by nightshade_nova back then:

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does every DH use vault now?
personally, i dont find it that useful. it has nice number of damage but i find that in most coop games (i rarely solo), these demon hunters are actually wasting too much time making an effort to run and vault around too much and die eventually.

nice trick if you dont die, but mostly it's too dangerous and time wasting. i would've killed the whole pack by then. dpsing is even much faster than trying to save discipline and run around to vault forward+backwards.
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used to die often... but now I gungho vault in and clear the creeps like mad without dying.. its awesome...

share with u skills build and strategy later
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oh why DH always gets the club to the head
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guys bad news TOC is getting the nerf bat again.

oh why DH always gets the club to the head
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Cause we DH are OP...tongue.gif unlike Barbs..

Anyway..already expected..so no biggie. Just waiting ofr more nerfs...maybe SP gloom to be reduced to 50% damage reduction..smile.gif.
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damn, i was hoping to upgrade my gears for more HP to play vault.

btw barb is already a bit OP now.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 4 2012, 02:23 PM)
Yup, you're right on where it's not worth it when you have high CC (above 30%).

Was just pointing out that SS will not affect damage dealt / critical damage dealt in any way; except boosting the chance to crit.


Added on September 4, 2012, 2:25 pm

Yup. Some DH actually relied too much on vault as a damage dealer and dying too much from it. But if used wisely it'll be a great damage dealer (over a short period of time).

I use it as kiting-DPS skill or engage-DPS skill when first engaged in combat (Gloom+vault front&back > pack died / if not, kite a little or prep & re-gloom+vault.)


Added on September 4, 2012, 2:31 pm

It actually got cheaper to reach those stats since the mid-tier items dropped in price (more supplies).

Crit Chance: Helm, Bracers, Gloves, Quiver
AllRes: Chest, Belt, Pants, Shoe
VIT / DEX: Appropriate parts (e.g. search for 60dex 150vit 3socket chest, instead of 150dex 150 vit 3 socket which is ridiculously expensive, then top-up the dex from other parts; e.g. belt with 150 dex but no vit / low vit)
CritDamage: Amulet, Rings, Rings, Glove, and a bow with a socket.

Here are some tips posted by nightshade_nova back then:

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Thanks for the tips. Will go back and try later. Those gems cost an arm and a leg.  sweat.gif
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For starters, use Perfect (or Flawless) Square Emerald for armors and Radiant Square Emerald for weapons will do. Don't need to be too high end, only upgrade when $$ are more on loose-end.

Also I missed out one thing in my previous post, one more part for AllRes would be the Shoulders. With around 50~60 AllRes on each part, 300 AllRes can be easily achieved smile.gif
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this thread is so dead... same as ToC after 1.0.5
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this thread is so dead... same as ToC after 1.0.5
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Because the game is so dead..
Many have quit, and I'm halfway there laugh.gif
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Haha Im so despo to bid on something, end up replacing my 90% gems with 70% ones to sell them.
Usually pawn it to my friends, but none of them are online tonight.

New cc mechanics looks pretty neat.Permastun elite might be possible again.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7100052/De...hanges-9_5_2012

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Haha Im so despo to bid on something, end up replacing my 90% gems with 70% ones to sell them.
Usually pawn it to my friends, but none of them are online tonight.

New cc mechanics looks pretty neat.Permastun elite might be possible again.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7100052/De...hanges-9_5_2012
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Bid on what? brows.gif
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Lol nothing much, just new Skull Grasp to go with my strafe build.Been using Hierophant Seal since 1.02. tongue.gif
Most ppl might not look for strafe+crit chance combo, but its still hard to come by.

Tbh, Im never getting a real decent ring cos Im so picky.

Now using Inquisitor+Skull Grasp with strafe, but still have my old cloak in stash.
Im using dual Skull Grasp, btw.(new+legacy) biggrin.gif

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Guys! Is sharpshooter a must for crossbow user?
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currently i am using armor...what are the best clock for dh ar?
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Armor / Cloak not much differences, except Cloak can roll Demon-hunter specific rolls (e.g. hatred regeneration, max discipline). Choose the one with preferred stats.

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Guys! Is sharpshooter a must for crossbow user?
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Not a must, mainly depending on your current stats. I ditched SS for other passive which helps my survivability (Night Stalker) when my base critical rate hits 30%.
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guys, need some advise..

current stat for my dh, 42k hp, 96k dps, 320+ resi

should i go for glass cannon or a bit tankable dh? i used to die a lot when i met FAST type elites, anything that is FAST enough to get close to me i will die most of the time, like.. lacuni, phasebeast, burrower and.. that tongue mob, some times i need to die 4-5 times to kill a FAST type elite, Zzz..
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QUOTE(AntheMz @ Sep 7 2012, 11:15 AM)
guys, need some advise..

current stat for my dh, 42k hp, 96k dps, 320+ resi

should i go for glass cannon or a bit tankable dh? i used to die a lot when i met FAST type elites, anything that is FAST enough to get close to me i will die most of the time, like.. lacuni, phasebeast, burrower and.. that tongue mob, some times i need to die 4-5 times to kill a FAST type elite, Zzz..
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go for mf.. your stats good enuff and I feel already in a sweet spot... maybe just change skill build and get more max discipline. correct skills and high discipline will ensure good survival...

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go for mf.. your stats good enuff and I feel already in a sweet spot... maybe just change skill build and get more max discipline. correct skills and high discipline will ensure good survival...
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with nv i have 194% mf, i used to swap gears for mf 310%+, but recently lazy to swap, and for good stat with mf gears is very expensive, cant afford it :/

discipline.. never think of that, thanks for the tips, will look into it, hope not so expensive.

my current skill.. hungering arrow, cluster bomb, preparation, caltrop, ss, sp.

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QUOTE(AntheMz @ Sep 7 2012, 11:15 AM)
guys, need some advise..

current stat for my dh, 42k hp, 96k dps, 320+ resi

should i go for glass cannon or a bit tankable dh? i used to die a lot when i met FAST type elites, anything that is FAST enough to get close to me i will die most of the time, like.. lacuni, phasebeast, burrower and.. that tongue mob, some times i need to die 4-5 times to kill a FAST type elite, Zzz..
well, im with 35k hp, 105k dps, 450 all res and 4500 armor.... almost no problem for elites and bosses.
guess u need gain more all res and armor.
2 defensive skill ss and sp are good, sometimes i just standstill with shadow power and shoot them till die (well with night stalker as passive skill, keep regen disp).

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QUOTE(AntheMz @ Sep 7 2012, 11:15 AM)
guys, need some advise..

current stat for my dh, 42k hp, 96k dps, 320+ resi

should i go for glass cannon or a bit tankable dh? i used to die a lot when i met FAST type elites, anything that is FAST enough to get close to me i will die most of the time, like.. lacuni, phasebeast, burrower and.. that tongue mob, some times i need to die 4-5 times to kill a FAST type elite, Zzz..
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96k DPS with SharpShooter? Or without?

If without ShSh, I don't think your gears will have issues with any elites in Act 3 (75k DPS is already at very comfortable zone). Try switching skills around and experiment with. (e.g. Ball Lightning + Night Stalker for Disc Regeneration; and Cluster Bomb for burst damage.)

If with ShSh, 96k dps is VERY low. Try to achieve at least 50k DPS w/o SS.

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just curious, how did you guys getting dps over 100k without sharp shooter ?

currently I'm using a 980dps bow my dps were around 40-47k without SS, with ss it scale up to 136k dps... hmm does a higher dps bow helps ?
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Sep 7 2012, 01:37 PM)
just curious, how did you guys getting dps over 100k without sharp shooter ?

currently I'm using a 980dps bow my dps were around 40-47k without SS, with ss it scale up to 136k dps... hmm does a higher dps bow helps ?
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High dps weopon, high dex, high critical chance, high critical damage , high atk speed..
Try find weopon 9xx or 1xxx with socket and dex..
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fua, with or without SS 1st
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After buying a crossbow with 70% crit & open socket, I am now enrolled into the 100K dps club biggrin.gif
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wa nice gear... seems your weapon dps around 1k? did u check out those 1.3k dps with base critical 70% but no sockets? I found those types give a bigger boost to dps and cheaper too
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After buying a crossbow with 70% crit & open socket, I am now enrolled into the 100K dps club biggrin.gif
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Nice. I assume its a legacy nats set, + decent HP & AllRes + high DPS. thumbup.gif
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Nice. I assume its a legacy nats set, + decent HP & AllRes + high DPS. thumbup.gif
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Wkkay...donate pls...tongue.gif. Anyways...nice gears mate...
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After buying a crossbow with 70% crit & open socket, I am now enrolled into the 100K dps club biggrin.gif
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Anyway, i saw alot high dps hunter without any life on hit, life steal, life regeneration....
The problem is how u all deal with damage reflect elites?? sweat.gif as we know, the higher dmg we deal, the more dmg we recieved....

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Anyway, i saw alot high dps hunter without any life on hit, life steal, life regeneration....
The problem is how u all deal with damage reflect elites?? sweat.gif as we know, the higher dmg we deal, the more dmg we recieved....
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Gloom > two burst usually enough to take down one pack. If not gloom again tongue.gif
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Wow, nice gear!! High dps with Nata set.. Me only can boots max until 55k dps w/o ss with only one hand bow and sheild..
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 7 2012, 03:30 PM)
wa nice gear... seems your weapon dps around 1k? did u check out those 1.3k dps with base critical 70% but no sockets? I found those types give a bigger boost to dps and cheaper too
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Haha I forgot to check actually doh.gif

I just checked AH and found a 1394 dps 90% crit xbow. Plugged it into the dps calculator and it gave me slightly less dps. It's also more expensive.

^ justifying away my carelessness during purchase laugh.gif


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Anyway, i saw alot high dps hunter without any life on hit, life steal, life regeneration....
The problem is how u all deal with damage reflect elites?? sweat.gif as we know, the higher dmg we deal, the more dmg we recieved....
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Using gloom's the best way since it gives you 3 seconds worth of attacks and heals you at the same time. Otherwise you can get a cheap bow with a lot of LOH and smoke screen while casting your heavy hatred spenders.
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Wow, nice gear!! High dps with Nata set.. Me only can boots max until 55k dps w/o ss with  only one hand bow and sheild..
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Try 2H Bow/Xbow + Quiver. Surely boost a lot of your DPS. I think your allres/vit is high enough already actually tongue.gif

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 7 2012, 09:34 PM)
Sold a few more parts in GAH today. Kind of sad to sell it actually, took me so long to collect this set cry.gif


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Try 2H Bow/Xbow + Quiver. Surely boost a lot of your DPS. I think your allres/vit is high enough already actually tongue.gif
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I think no many different lol because my dex only 1.4k..no enough , if I use dual handbow, dps can boots to 6xk dps....
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 7 2012, 08:30 PM)
Haha I forgot to check actually doh.gif

I just checked AH and found a 1394 dps 90% crit xbow. Plugged it into the dps calculator and it gave me slightly less dps. It's also more expensive.

^ justifying away my carelessness during purchase laugh.gif


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Using gloom's the best way since it gives you 3 seconds worth of attacks and heals you at the same time. Otherwise you can get a cheap bow with a lot of LOH and smoke screen while casting your heavy hatred spenders.
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what dps calculator u using?
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my natal build pula
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120k dps with 600 all res crazy.. rclxub.gif
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Yes.. and what's equally incredible is the 1800 life regen. Which of your items contribute towards it laupan?
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I think the shoulder contribute the most life regen. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Sep 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
my natal build pula
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 8 2012, 11:15 AM)
As impressive as always thumbup.gif
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Pola sifu, here is my build
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Can u suggest me which part still can be upgrade ? Tqvm
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Pola sifu, here is my build
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Can u suggest me which part still can be upgrade  ? Tqvm
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Since you're more into tanking build, and I have little to no experience with those, my suggestions might not be accurate but:

I think you'll need way more critical damage. You're lacking of it in your glove, amulets, weapon (natural + socket). Your tanking capability should be good with your current allres + armor + spammable gloom. But if you want more damage, you'll need to try 2H bow/xbows + quiver (pretty sure your dps will go up at least by 10k)

Also I noticed you're using Scatter Bomb/Dark Cloud instead of Ball Lightning. Since you're more into tanking, I think BL will be more suitable hatred-spammer (more hits = more procs for Night Stalker), larger AoE.

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Wah all so keng ar 600 plus
Me only 70 only

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Sep 8 2012, 11:39 AM)
Since you're more into tanking build, and I have little to no experience with those, my suggestions might not be accurate but:

I think you'll need way more critical damage. You're lacking of it in your glove, amulets, weapon (natural + socket). Your tanking capability should be good with your current allres + armor + spammable gloom. But if you want more damage, you'll need to try 2H bow/xbows + quiver (pretty sure your dps will go up at least by 10k)

Also I noticed you're using Scatter Bomb/Dark Cloud instead of Ball Lightning. Since you're more into tanking, I think BL will be more suitable hatred-spammer (more hits = more procs for Night Stalker), larger AoE.
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Ok, will try it if I got better 2 hand bow.. Still farming rubbish until now.. Hehe, will try bl oso.. Tqvm


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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:54 AM)
Ok, will try it if I got better 2 hand bow.. Still farming rubbish until now.. Hehe, will try bl oso.. Tqvm
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But y the damage show in the website different with my damage in game (town), accually my dps in town is 54k dps unbuff..Same equipment..

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I digress.Bola shot is too underpowered.Id like to use it(the damage is huge), but there are so many downsides to it. sad.gif

Firstly its only good in point blank melee range.The farther your target is, the more ineffective it becomes due to the explosion delay.
Second, its aoe also only works in melee range(7 yard).The rune with decent aoe have horrible coefficient.
It also doesnt pierce(except for poison rune), which makes goblin killing hard.

Right now switched back to cinder arrow.

Hopefully theyd buff it more.I think something along the line like making the projectiles travel faster the further it goes will works great to cover its melee range weakness.
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new build n take out my life steal
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Sep 9 2012, 07:00 PM)
new build n take out my life steal
dat boots. drool.gif
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finally reach over 150k dps with SS.
66k without SS.

150k with windforce
180k with manticore single socket.

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Been playing a couple of pub games.. and notice that there are lots of DH using windforce, and bola shots for primary attack.

I'm still sticking to athene's hungering arrow + cluster bombs build and it feels like I'm the odd guy here. blink.gif

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dat boots. drool.gif
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did you guys here like the legend set or mix armour?
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did you guys here like the legend set or mix armour?
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Sep 10 2012, 02:01 PM)
i mix around...buy stuff for the stats..if only natal set not expensive i might use set  drool.gif
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do you mean natal legacy set? that set is super expensive...
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do you mean natal legacy set? that set is super expensive...
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yea..freaking expensive
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Only ring expensive, others can cheap cheap buy ..
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Only ring expensive, others can cheap cheap buy ..
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Can any sifu give advice wat to upgrade to farm in A3?
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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:49 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K3nny-6840/hero/13288571

Can any sifu give advice wat to upgrade to farm in A3?
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resist ok , HP ok , dps not ok . get a Xbow . with soket . can boot up huge dps .

with this dps hard to farm act 3
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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:49 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K3nny-6840/hero/13288571

Can any sifu give advice wat to upgrade to farm in A3?
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Dps too low with ss...
Atleast 40k w/o ss, vit and ar ok..
Try find high dps bow in ah with cheap price..


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Dps too low with ss...
Atleast 40k w/o ss, vit and ar ok..
Try find high dps 2 hand bow in ah with cheap price..
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One hand bow atleast 9xx...try dual ...

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:54 AM)
Dps too low with ss...
Atleast 40k w/o ss, vit and ar ok..
Try find high dps bow in ah with cheap price..


Added on September 11, 2012, 10:55 am

One hand bow atleast 9xx...try dual ...
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thx shin6619 & nagflar
ok so wat i need now is the DPS... going to shoping for tonite in RMAH with usd10^^

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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:22 AM)
thx shin6619 & nagflar
ok so wat i need now is the DPS... going to shoping for tonite in RMAH with usd10^^
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Don't waste time with 2hd xbow. u need too stack load of increase attack speed to make it usable. get a highdps bow with life steal and pop in a 100% crit emerald. 2 hd xbow with default attack sped of 1.1 its a no go in act 3. i saw tons of dh on public server die like a whore with high dps weapon. meh when asking what their attack speed its 1.5 range. Old nata set somemore.

I tested manticore wit 1.87 attack spped. seriously it sucks and i die like nobody business. So slow making life steal n loh inefficient. that extra 50%crit damage from passive not gonna make things godly for u. high attack speed with sharp shooter should works better.because u'll crit 2 time before it reset if ur attack speed is over 2.

my noob logic. tongue.gif

edit. manticore i tested with 2 90% gem. crit damage scale up to 450k. 210k dps with ss.

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Sep 11 2012, 12:39 PM)
Don't waste time with 2hd xbow. u need too stack load of increase attack speed to make it usable. get a highdps bow with life steal and pop in a 100% crit emerald. 2 hd xbow with default attack sped of 1.1 its a no go in act 3. i saw tons of dh on public server die like a whore with high dps weapon. meh when asking what their attack speed its 1.5 range. Old nata set somemore.

I tested manticore wit 1.87 attack spped. seriously it sucks and i die like nobody business. So slow making life steal n loh inefficient. that extra 50%crit damage from passive not gonna make things godly for u. high attack speed with sharp shooter should works better.because u'll crit 2 time before it reset if ur attack speed is over 2.

my noob logic. tongue.gif

edit. manticore i tested with 2 90% gem. crit damage scale up to 450k. 210k dps with ss.
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so basicly get 1hxbow with high dps n socket... hmmm i think i go for dat coz when i use 2hxbow, i fall asleep yawn.gif yawn.gif
got a budjet of usd17... cannot cash out coz its in battlenet acc dy doh.gif
hopefully can get 1hxbow and vile ward brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:46 PM)
so basicly get 1hxbow with high dps n socket... hmmm i think i go for dat coz when i use 2hxbow, i fall asleep  yawn.gif  yawn.gif
got a budjet of usd17... cannot cash out coz its in battlenet acc dy  doh.gif
hopefully can get 1hxbow and vile ward  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I fell on love with windforce now. lol. Bloody fast! no more problem with phase hulking thingy. tongue.gif
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I fell on love with windforce now. lol. Bloody fast! no more problem with phase hulking thingy. tongue.gif
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i juz wan to ask u about windforce hehe
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Sep 11 2012, 12:39 PM)
Don't waste time with 2hd xbow. u need too stack load of increase attack speed to make it usable. get a highdps bow with life steal and pop in a 100% crit emerald. 2 hd xbow with default attack sped of 1.1 its a no go in act 3. i saw tons of dh on public server die like a whore with high dps weapon. meh when asking what their attack speed its 1.5 range. Old nata set somemore.

I tested manticore wit 1.87 attack spped. seriously it sucks and i die like nobody business. So slow making life steal n loh inefficient. that extra 50%crit damage from passive not gonna make things godly for u. high attack speed with sharp shooter should works better.because u'll crit 2 time before it reset if ur attack speed is over 2.

my noob logic. tongue.gif

edit. manticore i tested with 2 90% gem. crit damage scale up to 450k. 210k dps with ss.
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for me is personal favour only . i have no problem farming act 3 . with 2h Xbow only 80k+ dps without ss and only 300+ resist .

2h Xbow . highest critical damage , slowest speed

BOW low critical damage . faster speed .

1H Xbow . fastest speed, lower critical damage .



for critical damage

2h Xbow > Bow > 1h Xbow

for speed

1h Xbow > bow > 2h Xbow

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Me one hand bow farm act 1 to act4, no problem..
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my logic use 2h crossbow so that hatred spend less
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 11 2012, 01:09 PM)
for me is personal favour only .  i have no problem farming act 3 . with 2h Xbow only 80k+ dps without ss and only 300+ resist .

2h Xbow . highest critical damage , slowest speed

BOW low critical damage . faster speed .

1H Xbow . fastest speed, lower critical damage .
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Agree, I farm act 3 with 985dps manticore with no problem. Basically had been using calamity with 1150dps and windforce with 1251dps. Each bow have it's own adv.




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QUOTE(nicotine @ Sep 11 2012, 12:39 PM)
Don't waste time with 2hd xbow. u need too stack load of increase attack speed to make it usable. get a highdps bow with life steal and pop in a 100% crit emerald. 2 hd xbow with default attack sped of 1.1 its a no go in act 3. i saw tons of dh on public server die like a whore with high dps weapon. meh when asking what their attack speed its 1.5 range. Old nata set somemore.
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I'm pretty sure those dhs you see in public games will die even if they were using a bow you recommend. Healing is not a viable option if you can't take hits, and that's how many dhs are built tongue.gif

A 2h xbow requires a different play style from a 2h bow. Skills based on weapon dmg become more viable, while skills based on high proc rate become less viable. Damage per hit/hatred is higher. Keep an open mind and play it in the right style and you won't find 1.5 attack speed a problem smile.gif I'm at around 1.3.
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any 1h bow video in youtube?

for me 1h bow just for status and loh "fast speed"

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http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/saisail...iSaiLap/1628860
Can all pro suggest me which part still can be upgrade ..
i wan run act 3

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QUOTE(nzai @ Sep 11 2012, 07:37 PM)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/saisail...iSaiLap/1628860
Can all pro  suggest me which part still can be upgrade ..
i wan run act 3
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ur build like my previous build.
dont have AR, life steal or life on hit and life regen...

high hp but kenal hit reduce hp. need a lot time to recover.
easy kill by fire .....

go AR to 300 and life regen to 1k...

for me after life regen 2k, not need consider life steal or LOH...
after AR >600, u can consider armor...


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QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 11 2012, 01:09 PM)
for me is personal favour only .  i have no problem farming act 3 . with 2h Xbow only 80k+ dps without ss and only 300+ resist .

2h Xbow . highest critical damage , slowest speed

BOW low critical damage . faster speed .

1H Xbow . fastest speed, lower critical damage .
for critical damage

2h Xbow > Bow > 1h Xbow

for speed

1h Xbow > bow > 2h Xbow
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my logic use 2h crossbow so that hatred spend less
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my logic, kill elite fast before rage mode is triggered. high attack speed fill up the hatred pool fast. So constant spike trap and multishot spamming helps alot in recovering the health pool. smile.gif

QUOTE(flhuei1314 @ Sep 11 2012, 06:13 PM)
Agree, I farm act 3 with 985dps manticore with no problem. Basically had been using calamity with 1150dps and windforce with 1251dps. Each bow have it's own adv.
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Well its true that every type of bow had it's own advantages. smile.gif

QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 11 2012, 07:22 PM)
I'm pretty sure those dhs you see in public games will die even if they were using a bow you recommend. Healing is not a viable option if you can't take hits, and that's how many dhs are built tongue.gif

A 2h xbow requires a different play style from a 2h bow. Skills based on weapon dmg become more viable, while skills based on high proc rate become less viable. Damage per hit/hatred is higher. Keep an open mind and play it in the right style and you won't find 1.5 attack speed a problem smile.gif I'm at around 1.3.
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tongue.gif different style of play, I cant survive with that attack speed. My playing style... I don't really into kite/ run away from elite.
my play strategies... cast mark of death, spike trap,multishot spamming followed by vault (toc). then prep, vault out, hungering arrow + random spike trap and multishot spamming.

my build reference biggrin.gif
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Loh really super powerful I try justnow.. This is the 1st time I use gas to kill ghom and azmodan without running and just stand in front it and kill..No problem stand in the poison by ghom or poison on floor by azmodan..

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My playing style... I don't really into kite/ run away from elite.
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I fell on love with windforce now. lol. Bloody fast! no more problem with phase hulking thingy. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 12 2012, 08:56 AM)
got the windforce last nite, kinda nice ^^ rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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But ur dps still low ...
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Sigh, how is cross bow bad? I don't know about you guys, but most of the time I'm kiting my way around act3 with no problem. You won't have time standing there and face tank unless you're a tank build. Then again, roll a monk or barb if you hate kiting. I enjoy the kiting play style so much smile.gif
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1 question can tank build DH tank as well as Barb or monk ??
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But ur dps still low ...
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 12 2012, 12:19 PM)
1 question can tank build DH tank as well as Barb or monk ??
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Yes, I am a example.


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going to pump my dex dy, slowly changing from MF built to dex
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Don't forget cc, cd and ias too

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wah shin, your demon hunter... nice sial the set crossbow!
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Crossbow vs Bow vs Handbow - it all comes down to personal preferences really. Some will dislike the super-slow motion of crossbow; some will dislike the unsteady altho fast attacking handbows; and some will dislike bows for being 2handed and still having large damage gap.

Each have its pros and cons and depending on player's playstyle / build as well.

As for me I have no problems with either bow / crossbow for dps & kiting build tongue.gif
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wah shin, your demon hunter... nice sial the set crossbow!
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Thanks bro, 1st time try loh build!! No bad..one bow red fire effect and one bow is blue fire effect, really cool!!
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My DH DH DH DH

Still a long way to go., Shall go back and see how expensive those crossbow are. Right now farming at ACT II - Vault run. biggrin.gif

MY DH haven't have act III inferno (>.<)

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LeGenDO...6/hero/25377011 my DHDH any forumer pls give some guide if possible
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Shin, is your DH okay? I wanted to check out your gear but I only see your Helm, Chest and 1 Bow
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My gears is ok now, can check anytime. Yesterday put in RMAH for fun because no playing.

Today share the video for tanking elite, Azmodan and Ghom in 1.0.4, thanks for viewing. smile.gif

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post Sep 15 2012, 08:07 AM

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Independent of the general defensive skill nerf, we had already decided to buff Shadow Power to last longer. The primary purpose of Shadow Power is to give you a short window of time during which you can unload some damage to recoup some Life. Unfortunately the 3-second duration makes this awkward to use. We are changing Shadow Power from 20% Life Steal for 3 seconds to 15% Life Steal for 5 seconds

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7155884

If you're using Shadow Power - Gloom with a legacy Natalya's set, then you have near constant uptime of 65% damage reduction, but if you're not using the legacy Natalya's set, Shadow Power - Gloom is a luxury.
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Sep 15 2012, 08:07 AM)
Independent of the general defensive skill nerf, we had already decided to buff Shadow Power to last longer. The primary purpose of Shadow Power is to give you a short window of time during which you can unload some damage to recoup some Life. Unfortunately the 3-second duration makes this awkward to use. We are changing Shadow Power from 20% Life Steal for 3 seconds to 15% Life Steal for 5 seconds

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7155884

If you're using Shadow Power - Gloom with a legacy Natalya's set, then you have near constant uptime of 65% damage reduction, but if you're not using the legacy Natalya's set, Shadow Power - Gloom is a luxury.
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Ngati....Blizzard going to neff my build!!!! cry.gif

•Taking into account the across-the-board nerf to defensive skills, Gloom will become 35% damage reduction for 5 seconds.

Mean 65% damage reduction become 35%.....in 5 seconds mean many dh can unlimited use gloom too without Natalya set..... sweat.gif

New Natalya set > old natalya se???? because new one focus high dps and high dex..... i think 50 dis is enough for every gloom in 5 seconds...... hmm.gif
Y I so stupid go rmah bought cost usd90 Natalya mark le?? mad.gif

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post Sep 15 2012, 10:34 AM

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from starting they plan DH is dps.
after monster damage reduce.
mostly dh can benefit with it.
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post Sep 15 2012, 10:37 AM

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post Sep 15 2012, 10:38 AM

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The legend of tank DH include me will totally past after 1.0.5...
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Sep 15 2012, 08:07 AM)
Independent of the general defensive skill nerf, we had already decided to buff Shadow Power to last longer. The primary purpose of Shadow Power is to give you a short window of time during which you can unload some damage to recoup some Life. Unfortunately the 3-second duration makes this awkward to use. We are changing Shadow Power from 20% Life Steal for 3 seconds to 15% Life Steal for 5 seconds

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7155884

If you're using Shadow Power - Gloom with a legacy Natalya's set, then you have near constant uptime of 65% damage reduction, but if you're not using the legacy Natalya's set, Shadow Power - Gloom is a luxury.
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ok good news I think considering monster dmg is reduced as well
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 15 2012, 10:38 AM)
The legend of tank DH include me will totally past after 1.0.5...
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Not really.Player x and uber boss is where it gets real. brows.gif
inb4 AR+phys res/AR+fire res gears prices skyrocket.

Keep in mind pure dps-er wont benefit as much in party as balanced built character.

Also, expect an increase disc cost for Shadow Power.
It probably wont stay at 14 disc.
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 15 2012, 04:11 PM)
1. Not really.Player x and uber boss is where it gets real.  brows.gif  inb4 AR+phys res/AR+fire res gears prices skyrocket.

2. Keep in mind pure dps-er wont benefit as much in party as balanced built character.

3. Also, expect an increase disc cost for Shadow Power. It probably wont stay at 14 disc.
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1. Looking forward to it biggrin.gif

2. Kinda hard to tell because there's no way to see how much damage everyone else is doing. But yeah it's annoying when a party member keeps dying early in elite fights.

3. I don't expect one. 14 disc is already very expensive and takes 14 seconds to recuperate.

BTW if anyone wants to group farm Act 3 add me at doubleukay#6184
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 15 2012, 06:21 PM)
1. Looking forward to it biggrin.gif

2. Kinda hard to tell because there's no way to see how much damage everyone else is doing. But yeah it's annoying when a party member keeps dying early in elite fights.

3. I don't expect one. 14 disc is already very expensive and takes 14 seconds to recuperate.

BTW if anyone wants to group farm Act 3 add me at doubleukay#6184
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what char? I prefer farming 2 ppl just nice! faster to clear the levels and just to revive each other when needed...
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 15 2012, 06:40 PM)
what char? I prefer farming 2 ppl just nice! faster to clear the levels and just to revive each other when needed...
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I play a DH (hence why I'm only active in this thread smile.gif)
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I prefer solo in act 3 or act 4 because I noneed waste time to help other players beat elite with long life or wait they sell..in town. I clear the act more faster than in group..
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 15 2012, 06:47 PM)
I play a DH (hence why I'm only active in this thread smile.gif)
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 15 2012, 06:55 PM)
I prefer solo in act 3 or act 4 because I noneed waste time to help other players beat elite with long life or wait they sell..in town. I clear the act more faster than in group..
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u char pro ma... won't die.. mine solo can still die especially with reflect dmg mobs... then have to run all the way from prev waypoint again... zzz... so best for me to play in team of 2...
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 15 2012, 07:11 PM)
haha ps ps... I thought I posting in daily loot thread...
u char pro ma... won't die.. mine solo can still die especially with reflect dmg mobs... then have to run all the way from prev waypoint again... zzz...  so best for me to play in team of 2...
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Don't say like tat mah...the main problem I don't like in group is cannot pause game...they oso can't wait me like tat because I need take care my son when he call me.... I play until now only 200hrs, kill 5000 elites mean I only play 1 hour per day nia...
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 15 2012, 06:55 PM)
I prefer solo in act 3 or act 4 because I noneed waste time to help other players beat elite with long life or wait they sell..in town. I clear the act more faster than in group..
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The answer to this, is to group with someone who farms faster than you, so that you slow them down instead of the other way around laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 16 2012, 02:09 PM)
The answer to this, is to group with someone who farms faster than you, so that you slow them down instead of the other way around laugh.gif
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when want to farm? I also want to turn on ferret already lolol
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 15 2012, 06:21 PM)
1. Looking forward to it biggrin.gif

2. Kinda hard to tell because there's no way to see how much damage everyone else is doing. But yeah it's annoying when a party member keeps dying early in elite fights.

3. I don't expect one. 14 disc is already very expensive and takes 14 seconds to recuperate.

BTW if anyone wants to group farm Act 3 add me at doubleukay#6184
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hello bro,

i will join u tonight after 2am. which i finished my work i will mostly farm from siegebreaker to azmodan (solo or with friends)
at the moment i am still recuiting a goblin team. i and 2 friends has PUZZLE RING and always farm with that. if u wish to join me, kindly get yourself 1 and we will farm for life (easily 1 set or Legend) per day with MFF 355% after NV .
add me at ichampion#6360
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Dear all DH sifu..how to tackle the Azmodan Hell Grasp aoe? I really have problem with that..huhu
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Dear all DH sifu..how to tackle the Azmodan Hell Grasp aoe? I really have problem with that..huhu
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Kite it. First two (or was it three) will spawn near edge. Then the remaining will spawn on top of you with the interval roughly 5 seconds+/- (forgot). There's some youtube video showing how to evade without taking too much damage (or completely none) from the pools.

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New Unity finally hinted on IGN.My dream ring. wub.gif
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/17/dia...atures-detailed

My hope is that they put a farming limit for the ring, maybe a timely limit that only allows you to get it to drop once a month.
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want to ask:

during farming time, dropped 1 natalya sight (helm)

i check the rest of the Nat set gears, not impressive, the only good thing about Nat set is +130dex if have 3 Nat set

do you think i should sell it? or keep until the 2nd Nat items drops (god knows when)
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QUOTE(dolceping @ Sep 19 2012, 05:07 PM)
want to ask:

during farming time, dropped 1 natalya sight (helm)

i check the rest of the Nat set gears, not impressive, the only good thing about Nat set is +130dex if have 3 Nat set

do you think i should sell it? or keep until the 2nd Nat items drops (god knows when)
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cri change 7% > 130dex
if u have high cri damage n dont consider about ss.

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hi, if there's any DH who use Danetta's twin bow sets here?

pardon me but is this set were recently released coz i'd never noticed anyone using it b4. As for me i just bought it last night..
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 20 2012, 10:03 AM)
hi, if there's any DH who use Danetta's twin bow sets here?

pardon me but is this set were recently released coz i'd never noticed anyone using it b4. As for me i just bought it last night..
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Me, can check my build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ShiN-6679/hero/955543
or click my video in my signature. Good to use and tanking.

How much u bought? I bought mine both only few m, now very cheap in ah.

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:05 AM)
Me, can check my build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ShiN-6679/hero/955543
or click my video in my signature. Good to use and tanking.

How much u bought? I bought mine both only few m, now very cheap in ah.
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i think these are one underrated twin bow. Ppl are talking about Dawn etc but no way u can get a decent Dawn(with dex att)
for a cheap price while we can get decent Danetta for around 1-2M (socketless version)
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 20 2012, 11:17 AM)
i think these are one underrated twin bow. Ppl are talking about Dawn etc but no way u can get a decent Dawn(with dex att)
for a cheap price while we can get decent Danetta for around 1-2M (socketless version)
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I think these twin bows look cool, high dex, loh, critical damage and cheap!! These is a best value one hand bow for poor DH like me..
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:24 AM)
I think these twin bows look cool, high dex, loh, critical damage and cheap!! These is a best value one hand bow for poor DH like me..
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one with red effect, the other with blue effect. What's not to like? laugh.gif

*btw i bought my revenge for 900k and spite for 1.3m. And its more than worthy for that amount biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 20 2012, 11:29 AM)
one with red effect, the other with blue effect. What's not to like? laugh.gif

*btw i bought my revenge for 900k and spite for 1.3m. And its more than worthy for that amount  biggrin.gif
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Wow, sp cheap! Can show me?
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Sifus...is my build okay for ACT 3?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Metalfr...6/hero/14719767

I'm not using ToC because I dont want to be dependent on it when the Nerf comes in.

So far I'm farming at ACT 3, keeps 1-3, forward barracks...

Is it okay ah? I'm finding it okay la. just dying once in awhile. lol
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 11:50 AM)
Sifus...is my build okay for ACT 3?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Metalfr...6/hero/14719767

I'm not using ToC because I dont want to be dependent on it when the Nerf comes in.

So far I'm farming at ACT 3, keeps 1-3, forward barracks...

Is it okay ah? I'm finding it okay la. just dying once in awhile. lol
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Solo or Co-Op?

Solo can but when facing elite/champion, you will had difficult time due to low armor.

I do have similar setup with you but higher armor and dps. can do solo in Act3. If do Co-Op, better biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
Wow, sp cheap! Can show me?
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Exilus-6768/hero/19875773

mine is just the 800+ dps version though. I can't afford the 1000+ dps like yours biggrin.gif

QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 11:50 AM)
Sifus...is my build okay for ACT 3?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Metalfr...6/hero/14719767

I'm not using ToC because I dont want to be dependent on it when the Nerf comes in.

So far I'm farming at ACT 3, keeps 1-3, forward barracks...

Is it okay ah? I'm finding it okay la. just dying once in awhile. lol
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i have no idea what to comment but it looks like a decent build to me. Maybe you should stack up HP/vit a bit
if u want to farmed at the 'heart of sin' quest till the end bcoz most of the mobs in those level can have up
to 25k damage per hit when hiting a DH biggrin.gif
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that build is the same for Solo/CoOp

the only thing I change in COOP is the 2nd skill. instead of torturous I use the Mark(AoE 12% more damage)
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
Wow, sp cheap! Can show me?
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Can..just browse around...low 900+ DPS with Dex and Vit going about 1 Mil each.
Ahaha..me too took the plunge and bought these 2 hand bows...both for 2.2 Mil. Granted DPS dropped..but sure its fun as hell when you have 2.2 AS smile.gif. And the dex boost is just crazy..I went from 2k dex to 2.4k.

So much fun...


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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 12:07 PM)
that build is the same for Solo/CoOp

the only thing I change in COOP is the 2nd skill. instead of torturous I use the Mark(AoE 12% more damage)
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Ahaha..danetta's gang also...
Nice Dex....2.5k notworthy.gif . But I see you use Sharpshooter but only have about 135 Crit damage. That is not ideal, if you want to use sharp shooter you need to boost the Crit Damage. I have more or same build less dex (2.4k), but I have about 210% Crit Damage and 19.5% CC, and my DPS with SS is about 110k. Probably you can swap your amulet with a Crit Damage less dex type..You can find 60% CD with 150 Dex Amulets for cheap.



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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Sep 20 2012, 12:05 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Exilus-6768/hero/19875773

mine is just the 800+ dps version though. I can't afford the 1000+ dps like yours  biggrin.gif
i have no idea what to comment but it looks like a decent build to me. Maybe you should stack up HP/vit a bit
if u want to farmed at the 'heart of sin' quest till the end bcoz most of the mobs in those level can have up
to 25k damage per hit when hiting a DH  biggrin.gif
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Ur bow dps low than me but ur whole dps higher than me (u 69k, me62k) and ur dex oso higher than me too... Nice build!!
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my friend pump kau kau attack speed and crit damage =.= 200K dps with SS

dayom!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/XaVi-6499/hero/18509622
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 01:39 PM)
my friend pump kau kau attack speed and crit damage =.= 200K dps with SS

dayom!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/XaVi-6499/hero/18509622
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2.23 APS for a 2h xbow user is quite remarkable.
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yeah, wait till u see his attack speed with his windforce >.<

but still, damnnnnn. I'll upgrade my wizzy 1st LOL.
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 11:50 AM)
Sifus...is my build okay for ACT 3?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Metalfr...6/hero/14719767

I'm not using ToC because I dont want to be dependent on it when the Nerf comes in.

So far I'm farming at ACT 3, keeps 1-3, forward barracks...

Is it okay ah? I'm finding it okay la. just dying once in awhile. lol
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Dps too low with ss, vit oso low...


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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 01:39 PM)
my friend pump kau kau attack speed and crit damage =.= 200K dps with SS

dayom!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/XaVi-6499/hero/18509622
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My friend in cari play DH 200k dps without ss... Will go home and upload his link for refer..

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Thanks Shin. Yeah my DH lack of gear. I'm upgrading Wizzy dulu. mainly wizzy. DH is.....whenever I'm bored tanking with CM wiz.

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 20 2012, 11:50 AM)
I'm not using ToC because I dont want to be dependent on it when the Nerf comes in.
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That's not a good reason to avoid using it. 1.05 is going to revamp many skills, so either way, your build will change. Why not use the best skill available to you now?

It's really OP and way more effective than caltrops.
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i guess I'll clear mobs faster before patch eh? >.<

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going to get me a set of Danetta's tonite


kinda boring using this now yawn.gif yawn.gif
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K3nny-6840/hero/13288571

or shud i get calamity? hmm

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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 20 2012, 03:32 PM)
going to get me a set of Danetta's tonite
kinda boring using this now  yawn.gif  yawn.gif
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K3nny-6840/hero/13288571

or shud i get calamity? hmm
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Set bow nice and will boots ur dps too.. Ur dps now too low with ss..
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buy buy buy
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find it bit difficult to farm a3. any sifu got suggestion? many thx
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DH getting survival buff in the PTR Patch 1.0.5 Notes... hopefully they will implement it ^^ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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DH getting survival buff in the PTR Patch 1.0.5 Notes... hopefully they will implement it ^^  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Gloom 65% become 35% = survival buff??????????
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hopefully the new pets really can tank lol
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 21 2012, 10:27 AM)
Gloom 65% become 35% = survival buff??????????
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then 10% armor, life n AR summore
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New patch looks good for me since I'm not using gloom / Smokescreen at all since day one.

10% ar/life/armor from passive +1
15% ar from pig + 1
vault now can break free from jailer another +1

with these, I think most people can ditch those expensive discipline suckers such as smoke screen and sp gloom.


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Trollolol.The bean is spilled.Wolf only attack once every 2 second! (1.5 for spiders and boar)
I think thats even more lazier than this guy.
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Thank god for the buff.

For me, I wont be using boar since I dislike having to cast it from time to time.Hopefully bat wont have any cd, else I will drop it too.

Strafe got a 25% buff to its hatred to dmg ratio, less penalty AND goes through enemies are good news to me. rclxms.gif
With vault able to break free from jailer, I might swap trail of cinder with acrobatics.

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sentry all the way, can make nest liao
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Sentry is mostly for static oriented build, which brings rapid fire to mind.Anyone plan to use this long forgotten skill in conjunction with sentry? hmm.gif
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Downloading PTR client now.Hopefully can play it tomorrow morning.Cant wait to try out skills and MP10.
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question: how much APS do you get an upgrade if using a dual wield xbow? i'm currently using a 2h-xbow and the upgrade is ridiculously expensive and out of reach. was thinking to switch to dual wield xbow but afraid gonna loss a lot DPS without the quiver.
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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Sep 23 2012, 02:09 PM)
question: how much APS do you get an upgrade if using a dual wield xbow? i'm currently using a 2h-xbow and the upgrade is ridiculously expensive and out of reach. was thinking to switch to dual wield xbow but afraid gonna loss a lot DPS without the quiver.
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You gain 15% attack speed and 10% crit chance from archery. Nothing that a common quiver can't give you.

What you can get from dual wield though, which a quiver can't give, is extra crit dmg, life on hit, life steal...

Link to your build and budget?
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 23 2012, 05:59 PM)
You gain 15% attack speed and 10% crit chance from archery. Nothing that a common quiver can't give you.

What you can get from dual wield though, which a quiver can't give, is extra crit dmg, life on hit, life steal...

Link to your build and budget?
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NiteCru...2/hero/16845281

this is my noob build. as for budget i think around 6m only available.
need a build that can kill RD elites coz as of now it's really painful to meet one.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NiteCru...2/hero/16845281

this is my noob build. as for budget i think around 6m only available.
need a build that can kill RD elites coz as of now it's really painful to meet one.
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Dps and ar no enough..
Change a weopon got slot one...
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Dps and ar no enough..
Change a weopon got slot one...
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I would add..are you using Sharpshooter? Cause if not....it's a waste stacking all the Crit Damage when your crit chance is 9%. Try pusing your crit chance to about 20% and still keep sharpshooter. Then push your Crit Damage as much as possible. You will see the DPS just fly if you ahve high Dex and High Crit.

Other than that..you need All Resist. 500 is good enough to finish the game and farm.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 23 2012, 10:28 PM)
I would add..are you using Sharpshooter? Cause if not....it's a waste stacking all the Crit Damage when your crit chance is 9%. Try pusing your crit chance to about 20% and still keep sharpshooter. Then push your Crit Damage as much as possible. You will see the DPS just fly if you ahve high Dex and High Crit.

Other than that..you need All Resist. 500 is good enough to finish the game and farm.
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Thanks for the info gladfly and shin6619. I'll be looking into upgrading my equipment with AR. Was wondering if dual wield xbow will be enuff to survive RD elites coz i saw a few forumers here using danetta's set. how effective it is?

EDIT: yes i'm using sharpshooter.

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Thanks for the info gladfly and shin6619. I'll be looking into upgrading my equipment with AR. Was wondering if dual wield xbow will be enuff to survive RD elites coz i saw a few forumers here using danetta's set. how effective it is?

EDIT: yes i'm using sharpshooter.
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I am using it, no bad coz high dex, loh and critical damage... Just use kiting to keep urseft won't die when face elites..
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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Sep 23 2012, 07:52 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NiteCru...2/hero/16845281

this is my noob build. as for budget i think around 6m only available.
need a build that can kill RD elites coz as of now it's really painful to meet one.
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change multishot to rune that give displine on hit.. and get gloom to replace your current preparation skill. these 2 will give you better survivability.

and also vault with toc rune is now too.good to ignore
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need a build that can kill RD elites coz as of now it's really painful to meet one.
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The easiest way to deal with reflect dmg is to replace one of your skills with Shadow Power - Gloom. It scales with your dps, so the more damage you deal, the more hp you leech back.

Another way is to get a 1h xbow which has LOH. Swap to it when you encounter rd elites. You can find a rare one on AH for a few hundred K that gives you 900+ dps and 800+ LOH. Your character sheet dps should remain roughly the same with this setup.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Sep 24 2012, 12:00 AM)
The easiest way to deal with reflect dmg is to replace one of your skills with Shadow Power - Gloom. It scales with your dps, so the more damage you deal, the more hp you leech back.

Another way is to get a 1h xbow which has LOH. Swap to it when you encounter rd elites. You can find a rare one on AH for a few hundred K that gives you 900+ dps and 800+ LOH. Your character sheet dps should remain roughly the same with this setup.
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this 1 is good idea. i like the 2nd suggestion. save me the most money. thanks a lot wKkay. will go and look at AH
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this 1 is good idea. i like the 2nd suggestion. save me the most money. thanks a lot wKkay. will go and look at AH
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get the danetta set with the crit dmg de extra 130dex n 3# against elite... but ur quiver kinda nice dy... juz my 2 cent...
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Wtb danetta set slot, tq
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guy is this time worth to buy in ? thinking to grap the inna's set pants.

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Inna set too expensive now, I try to find got ar one, sky price!!! More than 100m..
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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Sep 23 2012, 08:52 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NiteCru...2/hero/16845281

this is my noob build. as for budget i think around 6m only available.
need a build that can kill RD elites coz as of now it's really painful to meet one.
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why leave your helm socket empty? can put ruby +experience leh
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Thanks for the info gladfly and shin6619. I'll be looking into upgrading my equipment with AR. Was wondering if dual wield xbow will be enuff to survive RD elites coz i saw a few forumers here using danetta's set. how effective it is?

EDIT: yes i'm using sharpshooter.
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Ah..I use Danneta's as well. Very good value for the 1hand. Got everything..LoH, CD, extra dex and so on. RD not a problem as LoH mitigates it a bit and the fast attack helps. Also, base damage is pretty poor for 1h so..you actually not dishing out insane damage, hence its manageable. Like WKkay said..use SP gloom if you find it hard.

Just for fun..with 500 AR, I face tanked Belial yesterday. Gloom, Prep..gloom and win....smile.gif. So gloom is a must for any DH.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 24 2012, 12:29 PM)
Ah..I use Danneta's as well. Very good value for the 1hand. Got everything..LoH, CD, extra dex and so on. RD not a problem as LoH mitigates it a bit and the fast attack helps. Also, base damage is pretty poor for 1h so..you actually not dishing out insane damage, hence its manageable. Like WKkay said..use SP gloom if you find it hard.

Just for fun..with 500 AR, I face tanked Belial yesterday. Gloom, Prep..gloom and win....smile.gif. So gloom is a must for any DH.
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im not using gloom tongue.gif
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im not using gloom  tongue.gif
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Gloom is skill of god for DH.
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but seriously, i don use gloom + SS
dono y, didnt like it much tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Sep 24 2012, 02:04 PM)
but seriously, i don use gloom + SS
dono y, didnt like it much  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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same here,
many ppl making gloom necessary, until all the skillz they use were meant for survival.
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same here,
many ppl making gloom necessary, until all the skillz they use were meant for survival.
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No wor...with Gloom I facetank....me no run away like some pussies..smile.gif

DH is short cut class- Sharpshooter for additional DPS / gloom for extra protection. To build a godlike DH without 2----> $$$
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how much gold do i need to spend to farm act 3? and basic requirements?
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gloom will make me fight like a Boss!!! hope 105 still can do tat...
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how much gold do i need to spend to farm act 3? and basic requirements?
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R u sure you're ready for it? LOL

Good luck bro tongue.gif

okok. honestly, depends on how you want to build your DH



Most of the DH i saw in public games are going for attack speed. inna's temperance(sorry If I spelt this wrongly) for pants....

all shooting at fast speed =.="

I met an awesome DH. SvnSeven or something...I'll check my screenshot again

He was using Legacy Nat suit(awesome 2 discipline per sec regen), 1 of his ring is Stone of Jordan or something. IAS 9%, 22% more daamge to elite and reduce 5 hatred from Cluster Bombs


He was surviving like a boss! he doesn't just spam Gloom, Smokescreen or TOC. His timing and play style was superb.

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get the danetta set with the crit dmg de extra 130dex n 3# against elite... but ur quiver kinda nice dy... juz my 2 cent...
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If reflect dmg is his main problem, he shouldn't increase dps. An increase in mitigation (through gloom/smokescreen/armor/resists) or healing (shadow power/life on hit/life steal/life regen) should come first.
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but seriously, i don use gloom + SS
dono y, didnt like it much  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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m2, mayb need to try it haha
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how much gold do i need to spend to farm act 3? and basic requirements?
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go blizzard forum search DH 500k act 3 set, got ppl help u buy from AH with 500k budjet...
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To fellow dh.
Im trying to push a buff to Nightstalker and Preparation:Punishment.

Here's my thread in the PTR Feedback forum.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6679367974

Bumps, supports, discussions and suggestions are appreciated. smile.gif
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To fellow dh.
Im trying to push a buff to Nightstalker and Preparation:Punishment.

Here's my thread in the PTR Feedback forum.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6679367974

Bumps, supports, discussions and suggestions are appreciated.  smile.gif
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How do you want to push a buff? To have your voice heard?

Barbs were so weak in Inferno.
What changed that?
The WW-Tornado Barb changed that.
And the gears changed that too (plenty of LOH/LS gears now).

I do not understand why you want to use "Barb" to support your wishlist.
Barb is a melee hero. And there is no way DH can do what Barbs are doing.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2012, 06:56 PM)
How do you want to push a buff? To have your voice heard?

Barbs were so weak in Inferno.
What changed that?
The WW-Tornado Barb changed that.
And the gears changed that too (plenty of LOH/LS gears now).

I do not understand why you want to use "Barb" to support your wishlist.
Barb is a melee hero. And there is no way DH can do what Barbs are doing.

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Is the video 1.0.5?
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i feel that dh will be the most char siew char at 1.05. u guys should try it on the ptr server.
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Is the video 1.0.5?
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No, it's patch 104.
This video shows you LOH vs LS.
The answer is, you need both in patch 105. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 09:46 AM)
No, it's patch 104.
This video shows you LOH vs LS.
The answer is, you need both in patch 105.  laugh.gif
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But DH can tank as well as barb in 104 by using loh...
Wat is ls?
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But DH can tank as well as barb in 104 by using loh...
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Yes, you need to change to 2x1H bow to tank. LOH is important. Likewise, LS.
It is better to keep both.

But DH still can't do what Barb's doing.
You can't count how many hits the Barb did in the video.

Barb can't stay invisible.
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i feel that dh will be the most char siew char at 1.05. u guys should try it on the ptr server.
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now already quite char siew but at least can toc to be in the thick of action....

after toc nerf then my dh will be chicken mode already. just shoot from off-screen... so much for diversity of playstyles...
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dunno why all said dh cannot tank -.-

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dunno why all said dh cannot tank -.-
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Because they do not have adequate LOH in their gears.
And low AR too.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 10:06 AM)
Yes, you need to change to 2x1H bow to tank. LOH is important. Likewise, LS.
It is better to keep both.

But DH still can't do what Barb's doing.
You can't count how many hits the Barb did in the video.

Barb can't stay invisible.
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Sorry, what is likewise? Life steal? I am playing Chinese ver. Noneed keep two hand loh.. Now i am using one hand loh 950 and another hand is focus critical, still can tank ghom and azmodan in 104.


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Because they do not have adequate LOH in their gears.
And low AR too.
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Tat day I play with a super high dps DH in act 3. His 200k without ss. Kill monters in second but he still die when hit by elites and I still standing there and keep shooting in low dps..haha

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:19 AM)
Sorry, what is likewise? Life steal? I am playing Chinese ver. Noneed keep two hand loh.. Now i am using one hand loh 950 and another hand is focus critical, still can tank ghom and azmodan in 104.
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LS is lifesteal.
If you use one hand with 950 LOH. You need other gears, amulet & rings, to make up adequate LOH.

My DH use both LOH and LS.
With hungry arrow, with average 120-140K DPS, it is very normal to hit multiple targets with more than 100K damage and I get a lot of life recovery from LS. .


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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:19 AM)
Tat day I play with a super high dps DH in act 3. His 200k without ss. Kill monters in second but he still die when hit by elites and I still standing there and keep shooting in low dps..haha
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Yes, some players just focus too much on glass cannon.

After so many patches, IMO, we need a very balance build.
Balance DPS/Armor/AR/HP/life recovery etc etc.
Any nerf or buff, ada-aku-kisah.jpg tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 10:22 AM)
LS is lifesteal.
If you use one hand with 950 LOH. You need other gears, amulet & rings, to make up adequate LOH.

My DH use both LOH and LS.
With hungry arrow, with average 120-140K DPS, it is very normal to hit multiple targets with more than 100K damage and I get a lot of life recovery from LS. .


Added on September 26, 2012, 10:26 am
Yes, some players just focus too much on glass cannon.

After so many patches, IMO, we need a very balance build.
Balance DPS/Armor/AR/HP/life recovery etc etc.
Any nerf or buff, ada-aku-kisah.jpg  tongue.gif
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Emm, I just have 950 only still enough tank all elites in 104 but I dunno 105 can or no..
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Emm, I just have 950 only  still enough tank all elites in 104 but I dunno 105 can or no..
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I believe you still can do it.
If can't, get another 1H with 900+ LOH.
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I believe you still can do it.
If can't, get another 1H with 900+ LOH.
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Haha, hope so. I oledi stand by for it. My danatte set got slot, now plug 100% critical gem. Will change to loh 600 purple gem in 105 if really need. U can log in 105 ptr server? I keep dc when log in.. Can we use our own hero in ptr server? Y I in the create new hero menu when log in then kick by server..? Tq
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 11:25 AM)
Haha, hope so. I oledi stand by for it. My danatte set got slot, now plug 100% critical gem. Will change to loh 600 purple gem in 105 if really need. U can log in 105 ptr server? I keep dc when log in.. Can we use our own hero in ptr server? Y I in the create new hero menu when log in then kick by server..? Tq
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No need la bro...your legacy Nats is good enough..just shadow power get back life. The changes to gloom is a net loss to damage mitigation but with additonal 2 sec, you can virtually gloom endless and get the 3% back.

Its too bad that the Danneta set, any LS will cost a bomb..sad.gif. I am also struggling with reflects even with about 550 AR I still lose a lot of life, 155k DPS (with SS smile.gif but base crit at 22%) and 700LoH, 200 Regen.

I am thinking of swapping to a quiver with 260 Dex, some Vit and 10 extra Disc, 7.5% crit chance. Want to try 50 Disc and see can survive better or not (dun ahve Nats sets..sad.gif)
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 26 2012, 12:23 PM)
No need la bro...your legacy Nats is good enough..just shadow power get back life. The changes to gloom is a net loss to damage mitigation but with additonal 2 sec, you can virtually gloom endless and get the 3% back.

Its too bad that the Danneta set, any LS will cost a bomb..sad.gif. I am also struggling with reflects even with about 550 AR I still lose a lot of life, 155k DPS (with SS smile.gif but base crit at 22%) and 700LoH, 200 Regen.

I am thinking of swapping to a quiver with 260 Dex, some Vit and 10 extra Disc, 7.5% crit chance. Want to try 50 Disc and see can survive better or not (dun ahve Nats sets..sad.gif)
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Thanks bro.. Hope my build still ok in 105..
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Shin how much did you buy oyour Dan revenge with socket?

I am trying to bid for 1 but I see the price all about 5 million and above...

dont want o blow too much gold on it ..smile.gif just want to test water ..smile.gif
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My ar 100 only dps167k 72khp 44.5crit clear act 3 45 minit no lifesteal no lifeonhit die less 3-5 -.-
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 26 2012, 03:21 PM)
Shin how much did you buy oyour Dan revenge with socket?

I am trying to bid for 1 but I see the price all about 5 million and above...

dont want o blow too much gold on it ..smile.gif just want to test water ..smile.gif
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mine only 870dps (15m) tongue.gif

just try 1.0.5 PTR - MP10 ( inferno act 3) flex.gif
can tank the elites and the monters......but..... sad.gif
kill a pack of elites need atleast 4 mins..... shocking.gif
the life of elites is too long!!!!!!!! sweat.gif
my dps without ss is 80k dps but still need 4 mins....... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:02 PM)
mine only 870dps (15m) tongue.gif

just try 1.0.5 PTR - MP10 ( inferno act 3) flex.gif
can tank the elites and the monters......but..... sad.gif
kill a pack of elites need atleast 4 mins..... shocking.gif
the life of elites is too long!!!!!!!! sweat.gif
my dps without ss is 80k dps but still need 4 mins....... sweat.gif
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Crap..means I am kiam siap.... bidded 7 mil for a 880 socket ..got outbidded last minute sad.gif. Didnt dare to whack 10 mil. Should have lor

Niabeh..MP10 lolol..you trying to get the special ring ah? I think I MP 5 also die liao
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I think the new rings and amulet will help a lot.Found a blue amulet with 80% crit dmg.
Also found a ring with 400+ loh.

MP10 is easy, but a snorefest.
Since elite can be cc-ed now, its pretty easy, even when the fights are drawn out.I used the new bola with stun rune, just permastun the elite...lol.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 26 2012, 04:07 PM)
Crap..means I am kiam siap.... bidded 7 mil for a 880 socket ..got outbidded last minute sad.gif. Didnt dare to whack 10 mil. Should have lor

Niabeh..MP10 lolol..you trying to get the special ring ah? I think I MP 5 also die liao
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I less bid becoz everytime I loose... I use buyout one
Try luck in ah, sometime got cheap buyout price..
Tank DH still work in MP10 but need more time to kill elite..justnow try tank ghom mp10, i can't tahan his hp reduce so low... Until half I quit ...but the ghom gas can't kill me too...
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:33 PM)
I less bid becoz everytime I loose... I use buyout one
Try luck in ah, sometime got cheap buyout price..
Tank DH still work in MP10 but need more time to kill elite..justnow try tank ghom mp10, i can't tahan his hp reduce so low... Until half I quit ...but the ghom gas can't kill me too...
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facetank? easy ma, use a weight on still (shift?), a weight on mouse attack. Go bunch a tea or so and sit down and watch.
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facetank? easy ma, use a weight on still (shift?), a weight on mouse attack. Go bunch a tea or so and sit down and watch.
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good idea..but can u teach me how to use skill like gloom after 5 seconds hmm.gif ?
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Erm... Make a elec motor powered weight that drops a pendulum every 5secs and lift back up tongue.gif

Now that is the true spirit of botting lol

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;bXe!ZcZYbZ

Hehe used this on MP0 and MP1.So easy. tongue.gif
Use shift or click on enemies to strafe.

Wish can use it on higher difficulties, but it isnt viable due to the mediocre dps of strafe and monsters dont die quick and often enough to pickup globes to restore hatred/disc.
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Erm... Make a elec motor powered weight that drops a pendulum every 5secs and lift back up tongue.gif

Now that is the true spirit of botting lol
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:33 PM)
I less bid becoz everytime I loose... I use buyout one
Try luck in ah, sometime got cheap buyout price..
Tank DH still work in MP10 but need more time to kill elite..justnow try tank ghom mp10, i can't tahan his hp reduce so low... Until half I quit ...but the ghom gas can't kill me too...
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u mean gas grenade tank dh works in 1.0.5?
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u mean gas grenade tank dh works in 1.0.5?
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No only gas, the 3rd one can stun enemy oso can.
Pls refer my thread:
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 27 2012, 01:45 PM)
No only gas, the 3rd one can stun enemy oso can.
Pls refer my thread:
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but in 104 gas grenades doesnt proc enough LOH

did they change that?

if it is efficient, then i can bring meh tank dh back from collecting dust.

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QUOTE(olman @ Sep 27 2012, 04:05 PM)
but in 104 gas grenades doesnt proc enough LOH

did they change that?

if it is efficient, then i can bring meh tank dh back from collecting dust.
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So easy tank in 104, c my video how I kill ghom, azmodan and elites without running.

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 27 2012, 04:30 PM)
So easy tank in 104, c my video how I kill ghom, azmodan and elites without running.

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fulamak how much is your loh?

my current tank dh have 1.5K LOH but cant play in act3 unsure.gif
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QUOTE(olman @ Sep 27 2012, 04:33 PM)
fulamak how much is your loh?

my current tank dh have 1.5K LOH but cant play in act3  unsure.gif
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Only 950 loh but with AR 700, defend 4600, 80k dps without ss, life 34k and legacy Nata set.
Unlimited open gloom to fight, this is my build for ur refer. Tq
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 27 2012, 04:36 PM)
Only 950 loh but with AR 700, defend 4600, 80k dps without ss, life 34k and legacy Nata set.
Unlimited open gloom to fight, this is my build for ur refer. Tq
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Hi bro..nice video..me jelly with the Nats perma gloom.

Just wondering why u use spike trap and not cluster bomb? I assume you use grenadier as one of your passive? Cluster bomb probably can kill those Boss much faster - Loaded for the Bear is just awesome smile.gif Faster hatered regen (your Danneta set helps) plus -10 hatered for the Cluster bomb + 2 extra hatred regen from grenades plus Bat.......you can keep your hatered to running at all time. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 27 2012, 04:52 PM)
Hi bro..nice video..me jelly with the Nats perma gloom.

Just wondering why u use spike trap and not cluster bomb? I assume you use grenadier as one of your passive? Cluster bomb probably can kill those Boss much faster - Loaded for the Bear is just awesome smile.gif Faster hatered regen (your Danneta set helps) plus -10 hatered for the Cluster bomb + 2 extra hatred regen from grenades plus Bat.......you can keep your hatered to running at all time. smile.gif
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Have u notice me just stand there and never run when elites close? That's why I no using the cluster bomb. I no using grenadier, I using night stalker. Spike trap very powerful, one give 160k dps if critical, how about 3 trap damage together?
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Anything with grenades are buggy in the PTR.Sometimes the grenades dont come out, sometimes does no dmg rclxub.gif

Btw, you dont need to have legacy nats to tank MP10.
You can go disc bola if you want perma gloom (not necessary), or can go grenades/shock collare/cinder arrow.

Basically, youll need:
Perfectionist, Nighstalker, Brooding, Boar, Guardian sentry, Gloom, Prep:Battle Scars.

You can drop one or more of the above and switch them up with more offensive skills depending on how comfortable you feel.Most ppl with low dps(including me) that tried MP10 will give up on hatred spenders, since its too troublesome haha.
Just use whatever hatred generator of you choice and snore away.
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 27 2012, 05:05 PM)
Have u notice me just stand there and never run when elites close? That's why I no using the cluster bomb. I no using grenadier, I using night stalker. Spike trap very powerful, one give 160k dps if critical, how about 3 trap damage together?
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Ok I can understand if you use Nightstalker, to get back your disc..which leave one slot empty (Archery is a must) and Steady Aim is useless for tanker. Why not Grenadier?

Also, spike traps you need them to detonate before you can put it back..otherwise ..its wasted hatred as you initial traps are removed. I personally prefer Loaded for the bear for the simple reason I can shoot it off few time in one go (when Tank DH without Nats was playable). But I guess its personal preference then..:
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 27 2012, 05:18 PM)
Ok I can understand if you use Nightstalker, to get back your disc..which leave one slot empty (Archery is a must) and Steady Aim is useless for tanker. Why not Grenadier?

Also, spike traps you need them to detonate before you can put it back..otherwise ..its wasted hatred as you initial traps are removed. I personally prefer Loaded for the bear for the simple reason I can shoot it off few time in one go (when Tank DH without Nats was playable). But I guess its personal preference then..:
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Okok, will try grenadier.. Now less time to play and farm.. Until now still p13... Now waiting 105 to kill the new bosses.. After RE6 come out in November, will stop d3 too.. Hehe
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is it item price will drop after patch 105?
if yes then i wan to sell my nal set b4 that...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/gonon-1728/hero/10121531
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is it item price will drop after patch 105?
if yes then i wan to sell my nal set b4 that...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/gonon-1728/hero/10121531
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I think don't sell lol, now gold price drop so fast... All items become cheap...
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 28 2012, 08:07 AM)
I think don't sell lol, now gold price drop so fast... All items become cheap...
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mayb sell at RMAH? rclxms.gif
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mayb sell at RMAH?  rclxms.gif
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Oso hard but u can try.. If ur Nata set is really good stats.. Last time immortant king set can sold usd 250 but now u put usd 100-150 oso nobody buy..
U can try ur luck, bro.. I oso stoping to change gears, just wear it and i can come back anytime if I have mood to play, rite?
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After Monk, Barb, finally I venture to DH.

So, anyone can guide me how to be an average DH that can finish Inferno? What are the basic requirement?

Now my DH lvl 26 tongue.gif

I am farming lvl60 gear for the DH using my monk. Currently had some weapons in stash. Which to use:
2H xbow + quiver
2H bow + quiver
2 x 1H xbow

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 28 2012, 10:53 AM)
After Monk, Barb, finally I venture to DH.

So, anyone can guide me how to be an average DH that can finish Inferno? What are the basic requirement?

Now my DH lvl 26 tongue.gif

I am farming lvl60 gear for the DH using my monk. Currently had some weapons in stash. Which to use:
2H xbow + quiver
2H bow + quiver
2 x 1H xbow
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Use 2h xbow ( high critical but low speed) or 2h bow (15% damage and medium speed) to give u high dps. Better find got slot one. Ur build atleast got 400 AR, 3000 armor, life 30k, dps 50k without ss.. Focus ar, dex, critical chance .. Just kiting and u will easy to finish inferno. I no sifu and all this just my nood suggestion. U oso can refer other DH sifu.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 28 2012, 10:53 AM)
After Monk, Barb, finally I venture to DH.

So, anyone can guide me how to be an average DH that can finish Inferno? What are the basic requirement?

Now my DH lvl 26 tongue.gif

I am farming lvl60 gear for the DH using my monk. Currently had some weapons in stash. Which to use:
2H xbow + quiver
2H bow + quiver
2 x 1H xbow
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 28 2012, 10:59 AM)
Use 2h xbow ( high critical but low speed) or 2h bow (15% damage and medium speed) to give u high dps. Better find got slot one.  Ur build atleast got 400 AR, 3000 armor, life 30k, dps 50k without ss.. Focus ar, dex, critical chance .. Just kiting and u will easy to finish inferno. I no sifu and all this just my nood suggestion. U oso can refer other DH sifu.
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Personally I prefer 2H crossbow too. Because it can deliver higher and consistent damage.
My average damage is 120-150K. With hungry arrow, I can hit many targets.

Just to add, if you have sharp shooter as your passive skill, focus more on critical damage i/o crit chance.

P/S Are you going to use your monk's gears on DH?
My DH uses my Monk's gears. So she has high AR and physical resistance. laugh.gif
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lol, my monk have very low AR. And I won't be using that either.

Farmed some AR+chaplang resist gears. Got 3-4 candidate of 1H bow with 800-900dps and some have free socket.
2H xbow & 2H bow not much choice, all <1kdps.
I reserved an Andariel Visage for the DH.


Added on September 28, 2012, 11:29 amWhat to pick for quiver? I got 5-6 quivers candidate.
IAS/CC/10 disc??

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 28 2012, 11:28 AM)
lol, my monk have very low AR. And I won't be using that either.

Farmed some AR+chaplang resist gears. Got 3-4 candidate of 1H bow with 800-900dps and some have free socket.
2H xbow & 2H bow not much choice, all <1kdps.
I reserved an Andariel Visage for the DH.


Added on September 28, 2012, 11:29 amWhat to pick for quiver? I got 5-6 quivers candidate.
IAS/CC/10 disc??
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ASI..is constant for quiver and determined by the ilevel. You will get 15% for ilevel 62 quiver guaranteed. For me, for quiver's its Max Disc then Dex (quivers can get 300Dex perfect roll) and lastly CC, + elite bonus damge will always be nice:).

2hxbow for the win for starters. Consistent and able to do massive damage with high CD with Sharpshooter. Like Alune said, if you keep sharpshooter, ditch CC, but keep it at about 20% base is gooding. The stack Crit Damage all the way...... you can easily reach 150K DPS and will crit consistenly since your base 20% is there smile.gif
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No love for windforce...+strongarm bracer..
55% chance knock back

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No love for windforce...+strongarm bracer..
55% chance knock back
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so many crossbow user here..anyone here uses 1hxbow?
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Me, refer my profile if u wan. Tq
One hand fast but low dps..
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Me, refer my profile if u wan. Tq
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nice bro...the danetta very hard to aquire especially the one with socket and base crit
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8xx dps with socket still ok for me, around 15m. But if 9xx dps to 1xxx dps with socket oledi sky price, duno how many hundred million in AH...
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I just want an economy solution... poorfag never got 100mil sales from AH.
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8xx dps with socket still ok for me, around 15m. But if 9xx dps to 1xxx dps with socket oledi sky price, duno how many hundred million in AH...
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it was my dream then after that i just what the hell just get a rare equivalent or something...too ex for me
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it was my dream then after that i just what the hell just get a rare equivalent or something...too ex for me
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U focus other gears 1st, change the weopon in the last. Better wait after 105, maybe will be more cheaper.
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Just noticed some powerful synergy between bola shot and nightstalker on PTR! rclxm9.gif
Apparently, every explosion count as ONE CRIT (when your main hit crit), so against a lot of mobs, you will generate A LOT of disc.

What this mean is if there are 10 mobs around you, and your bola crit means you crit 10 times.
This, paired with the new buff to bola aoe (from 7 to a whopping 17) makes you proc really often.

I was just test driving farming MP5, messed around with my passives.
I dropped Archery, since I dual wield, the -10% crit left me with about 35% crit chance, but I still proc nightstalker a lot.
Disc pool went full after duration of gloom finished haha.
I had Prep on skill bar but never even need to use it. So happy I can finally drop prep for smokescreen to free myself against freeze now. biggrin.gif

So, this basically makes Bitter Pill redundant I think.
If youre trying Bola Shot, I think the best 2 are imminent doom for dmg, but I prefer thunder ball since elite and boss can also be permastunned now.

Now its time to pray that Blizzard dont nerf it and make the explosion count as white dmg.T_T
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 28 2012, 03:59 PM)
U focus other gears 1st, change the weopon in the last. Better wait after 105, maybe will be more cheaper.
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i am quite satisfied with my current gear..so now wanna get some good weapons..i got my main already...now looking for offhand...did not realise good danetta price are sweat.gif. jewellery not gonna touch it yet as news on the net say there is a buff


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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 28 2012, 04:13 PM)
Just noticed some powerful synergy between bola shot and nightstalker on PTR!  rclxm9.gif
Apparently, every explosion count as ONE CRIT (when your main hit crit), so against a lot of mobs, you will generate A LOT of disc.

What this mean is if there are 10 mobs around you, and your bola crit means you crit 10 times.
This, paired with the new buff to bola aoe (from 7 to a whopping 17) makes you proc really often.

I was just test driving farming MP5, messed around with my passives.
I dropped Archery, since I dual wield, the -10% crit left me with about 35% crit chance, but I still proc nightstalker a lot.
Disc pool went full after duration of gloom finished haha.
I had Prep on skill bar but never even need to use it. So happy I can finally drop prep for smokescreen to free myself against freeze now. biggrin.gif

So, this basically makes Bitter Pill redundant I think.
If youre trying Bola Shot, I think the best 2 are imminent doom for dmg, but I prefer thunder ball since elite and boss can also be permastunned now.

Now its time to pray that Blizzard dont nerf it and make the explosion count as white dmg.T_T
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i use bola shot all this while...before buff and after buff more gooding..
blizz goin to buuff it again...from 7 yard to 14yard explode...

just pray dead man lagecy wit bola shot skill not rise up...cause that is my next buy list/loot list...

windforce knockback...podewin

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After a lot of experiments, finally got a very good strafe build for 1.0.5.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;bXf!ZaYbcZ

(equilibrium is of course replaced by emberstrafe)
At a glance, chain of torment, emberstrafe and shuriken cloud might look different.But upon closer look, you'll realize that they are all damage per second skills.

Total theoretical dps = 100%+34%+65% = a whopping 199% damage per second

Whats more is that they all proc loh.I actually got frozen without gloom on against 2 elite stack on MP5 and survive due to loh from cloud and chain.(they dont have desec or poison though)
The way I play it is just put sentry, strafe and pick up globes to regen hatred.Just phase through mobs to kill them.
Yep.You dont have to use gloom strafing into mobs(my AR is 500).I only pop gloom when Im recuperating for hatred.

Used to have doubts I could farm on MP5 fast (since my dps is 50k only), but this build clears all of them hehe.

Tried the build on MP10 but I cant strafe into mobs without gloom like I did on MP5 even after replacing bat with boar though.
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how to fight elite and rare with reflect damage damn 90k dps also cant
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QUOTE(bukulima @ Oct 1 2012, 09:07 PM)
how to fight elite and rare with reflect damage damn 90k dps also cant
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Open gloom..
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How to kill Diablo? Since we can't bring follower and mostly DH is not tanky. run around the area?


Added on October 2, 2012, 10:54 amWhat a shame last night NORMAL diablo kill me twice @ lvl33. at the end farm 1 more level and upgrade a socketed bow (slot in a +500LoH gem) only can tank him.


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How to kill Diablo? Since we can't bring follower and mostly DH is not tanky. run around the area?


Added on October 2, 2012, 10:54 amWhat a shame last night NORMAL diablo kill me twice @ lvl33. at the end farm 1 more level and upgrade a socketed bow (slot in a +500LoH gem) only can tank him.
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Kiting, hit and run...
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Looks easy. I got too familiar with tanky barb+monk, the DH way of playstyle is really... hahaha
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Looks easy. I got too familiar with tanky barb+monk, the DH way of playstyle is really... hahaha
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 2 2012, 12:14 PM)
Looks easy. I got too familiar with tanky barb+monk, the DH way of playstyle is really... hahaha
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 2 2012, 11:14 AM)
Looks easy. I got too familiar with tanky barb+monk, the DH way of playstyle is really... hahaha
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Yes, you have to run..no choice. Speed boots + Lacuni is the best..cause can run as fast fast fast as "fast" mob. With vault + tactical advantage...DH is the Usain Bolt of Diablo3 smile.gif
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So, what are the minimal stats I need to finish inferno?

offense: 2k dex, __%CC, __%CD, 1.8 attspd?
defense: 6k armor, 400AR, 30k hp?

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 2 2012, 04:20 PM)
So, what are the minimal stats I need to finish inferno?

offense: 2k dex, __%CC, __%CD, 1.8 attspd?
defense: 6k armor, 400AR, 30k hp?
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DH got short cut on CC called Sharpshooter as a passive. Gives 3% CC per second which reset after crit. So you dont really have to stack CC and can focus on CD/ASI.

For me, I finished with lesser armor 4k (no buff) 450 AR. 30k HP. 20% base CC 350% CD and 1.87 ASI. LoH abit is helpful for inital stage against refelcts. LS better once your DPS goes beyond 150k (which is easy with SS). Again, MS is a must for solo, with gloom/Smoke screen. Prep is also very important. Extra disc will make life much easier..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 2 2012, 04:20 PM)
So, what are the minimal stats I need to finish inferno?

offense: 2k dex, __%CC, __%CD, 1.8 attspd?
defense: 6k armor, 400AR, 30k hp?
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Don't worry, now diablo inferno in 104 patch is so easy oledi, if wait 105 patch out, more easy too if choose mp0... I solo kill ghom and diablo in 103 patch. That's is a real hard time for DH.
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Hi Fellow DHs!

I am new to this forum. I just got back from UK and am currently hating the latency here in Malaysia. Anyone playing with rubber banding and lags?

Thanks!


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I wish i have mastercard/visa power...damn so jelly
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The best way is too farm with friends and share the loot. I have a total of 12k ish elite kills and a MF wiz running during 103 patch. Quit the wiz when 104 came out and i'm doing pretty well atm.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/3515351

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 6 2012, 01:16 PM)
Hi Fellow DHs!

I am new to this forum. I just got back from UK and am currently hating the latency here in Malaysia. Anyone playing with rubber banding and lags?

Thanks!


Added on October 6, 2012, 2:35 pm

The best way is too farm with friends and share the loot. I have a total of 12k ish elite kills and a MF wiz running during 103 patch. Quit the wiz when 104 came out and i'm doing pretty well atm.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/3515351
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17k elite kill...no imba item... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Oct 7 2012, 02:01 AM)
Nah I just need to be more thankful on what i got... sweat.gif
17k elite kill...no imba item... biggrin.gif
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Well, one of the best way to make quick gold is to flip the AH often. You can try it.
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fellow dh mates here
just wanna ask something

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How much can i sell this weapon for?

u guys also can offer me biggrin.gif selling cheap here
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DH seldom use 1hand...
if1 hand ...DH prefer add 10 disp with 1k up dps
or high LoH

that one don know can sell 500k or not...no hard feelin smile.gif

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people ll buy for the price of fiery brimstone to get 5 set achievement ...
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Sorry mate but that ain't gonna even sell for 100k. Unless u get a 1.1k and higher calamity or D. Spite/Revenge.
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Focus on AR + some MF
Just changed it on Friday, this past two days gained around 15m from legends/sets >.<
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refer this DH,
play one hand xbow, 360k dps without ss....

http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/profile/飛揚...0/hero/15597239
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 7 2012, 09:32 PM)
refer this DH,
play one hand xbow, 360k dps without ss....

http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/profile/飛揚...0/hero/15597239
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 7 2012, 10:32 PM)
refer this DH,
play one hand xbow, 360k dps without ss....

http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/profile/飛揚...0/hero/15597239
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Hi DH ians....May i ask this can sell how much?As i check around same stat going for 150m at AH
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Hi all, i would like to join lowyatt DH clan. im bored to play alone... please add me...

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Dear fellow DH,

I just reach level 60 and completed Hell. What is the minimum requirement for a DH to complete inferno. I don't really need godly gear. Right now my gears cost me 0 gold (apart from the gems).

Is my bow & quiver up to standard?

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 09:18 AM)
Dear fellow DH,

I just reach level 60 and completed Hell. What is the minimum requirement for a DH to complete inferno. I don't really need godly gear. Right now my gears cost me 0 gold (apart from the gems).

Is my bow & quiver up to standard?

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462
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looks decent enuf. id upgrade the gloves, shoulders and quiver though. lack of dex in these items

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 09:18 AM)
Dear fellow DH,

I just reach level 60 and completed Hell. What is the minimum requirement for a DH to complete inferno. I don't really need godly gear. Right now my gears cost me 0 gold (apart from the gems).

Is my bow & quiver up to standard?

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462
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What is the average AR and armor for a DH to survive ok ok in inferno? I am not too familiar with range build, my Barb had about 8k armor + 600AR, monk had 6k armor + 500AR.

DH? Now 3k armor + 300 resist minimal only.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 10:02 AM)
What is the average AR and armor for a DH to survive ok ok in inferno? I am not too familiar with range build, my Barb had about 8k armor + 600AR, monk had 6k armor + 500AR.

DH? Now 3k armor + 300 resist minimal only.
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Generally your stats seem good enough to complete Inferno.
Armor is good. AR should be okay (I've seen some are lower than yours).

Just to comment on your life regen.
Reflect damage (of elites) could be an issue if you do not have sufficient life regeneration (LOH/LS).
I see you have 471 LOH + 2.7% LS.
I am not sure how well you cope with the damage reflection. If you find difficulty, try use Gloom.
If it's still not good, you may need to change one gear to increase your LOH/LS.
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Ironically, my DH had more life than my monk & barb.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 10:15 AM)
Ironically, my DH had more life than my monk & barb.
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Try improve ur dps , better 60k without ss.. Others ok. Just kiting then u will finish inferno smoothly.. Can add me if wan play together.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 10:15 AM)
Ironically, my DH had more life than my monk & barb.
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You don't need high HP as you don't play a tanker DH.
Your current HP is good enough.
Just kite when you encounter fireballs, fire and damage reflection (that you can't cope with).


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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 10 2012, 10:29 AM)
Try improve ur dps , better 60k without ss.. Others ok. Just kiting then u will finish inferno smoothly.. Can add me if wan play together.
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I believe yuhhaur just wants to complete Inferno at this stage.
I think he will not use his DH to farm.
So, his current stats should be good enough to complete Inferno.

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Eh? my dps should be 110k with SS 100%... maybe profile update while not in full mode
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 10 2012, 10:32 AM)
You don't need high HP as you don't play a tanker DH.
Your current HP is good enough.
Just kite when you encounter fireballs, fire and damage reflection (that you can't cope with).


Added on October 10, 2012, 10:33 am
I believe yuhhaur just wants to complete Inferno at this stage.
I think he will not use his DH to farm.
So, his current stats should be good enough to complete Inferno.
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yeah the stats look good enuf to complete. especially with his life and AR. shud b pretty decent

im on a glass cannon build 16k health. 96k damage without ss.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 10 2012, 10:32 AM)
You don't need high HP as you don't play a tanker DH.
Your current HP is good enough.
Just kite when you encounter fireballs, fire and damage reflection (that you can't cope with).


Added on October 10, 2012, 10:33 am
I believe yuhhaur just wants to complete Inferno at this stage.
I think he will not use his DH to farm.
So, his current stats should be good enough to complete Inferno.
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Tank DH need high hp? My life around 33k, enough or no?
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Eh? my dps should be 110k with SS 100%... maybe profile update while not in full mode
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So how much DPS do u have? Honestly, i think your gear is good enough to complete inferno difficulty.
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Tank DH need high hp? My life around 33k, enough or no?
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If you can tank with 33K, then it is enough.
I have seen tanker DH with 60K HP.
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Tank DH need high hp? My life around 33k, enough or no?
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Nope, 33k is too low to tank. I have this friend with 170k DPS and 80k HP but since he lost quite a bit HP after switching to DW. His current EHP is at 550k.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:27 AM)
Nope, 33k is too low to tank. I have this friend with 170k DPS and 80k HP but since he lost quite a bit HP after switching to DW. His current EHP is at 550k.
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shin6619 may have a more efficient build (with combination of gears & skills) to proc higher life recovery.
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yeah the stats look good enuf to complete. especially with his life and AR. shud b pretty decent

im on a glass cannon build 16k health. 96k damage without ss.
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16k HP is way too low my friend and your DPS is not going to get yourself out of trouble. THe idea with glass canon is to kill fast and hopefully not get killed in the process. Few weeks back i was running a 20k HP, 125k DPS with no SS glass canon. You still die to RD mobs and the occasional mistakes.

Your life would be made harder when patch 1.05 is out. Well mine too cuz i'm sitting on 30k HP, 235 AR and 3.9k armor. The nerf on gloom is gonna really tell.


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It depends on the build.
shin6619 may have a more efficient build (with combination of gears & skills) to proc higher life recovery.
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IMO, unless you have insane AR and Armor, is not going to work because when you meet RD mobs are mobs that hits hard, you just won't have enough life pool to sustain the damage even u have say 3k LOH. In other words, you won't have enough time to recover the health loss due to your low health pool.

But again, i might be wrong. So, let me know.

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:30 AM)
IMO, unless you have insane AR and Armor, is not going to work because when you meet RD mobs are mobs that hits hard, you just won't have enough life pool to sustain the damage even u have say 3k LOH. In other words, you won't have enough time to recover the health loss due to your low health pool.

But again, i might be wrong. So, let me know.
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If I'm not mistaken, shin6619 had no problem to tank Ghom in MP10 PTR105.
He has got a very efficient build.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 10 2012, 11:27 AM)
If you can tank with 33K, then it is enough.
I have seen tanker DH with 60K HP.
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If I'm not mistaken, shin6619 had no problem to tank Ghom in MP10 PTR105.
He has got a very efficient build.
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Ya, I have no problem tank ghom mp10 but just kill slow... Thanks for your Appreciation.


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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:30 AM)
16k HP is way too low my friend and your DPS is not going to get yourself out of trouble. THe idea with glass canon is to kill fast and hopefully not get killed in the process. Few weeks back i was running a 20k HP, 125k DPS with no SS glass canon. You still die to RD mobs and the occasional mistakes.

Your life would be made harder when patch 1.05 is out. Well mine too cuz i'm sitting on 30k HP, 235 AR and 3.9k armor. The nerf on gloom is gonna really tell.


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IMO, unless you have insane AR and Armor, is not going to work because when you meet RD mobs are mobs that hits hard, you just won't have enough life pool to sustain the damage even u have say 3k LOH. In other words, you won't have enough time to recover the health loss due to your low health pool.

But again, i might be wrong. So, let me know.
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Bro, I only 950 loh to tank ghom mp10. U r right, tank DH must focus High AR and Amor. That's y my build all got ar and armor if possible.. Patch 105 can tank better because many new defensive skill add to DH.


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any1 selling embrace for 2.5m? with vit and fire resist if possible =)

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Try search in ah. I think 2.5m can find 7x dex, 6x vit 50 AR and 4 cc...maybe?
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Try search in ah. I think 2.5m can find 7x dex, 6x vit 50 AR and 4 cc...maybe?
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QUOTE(kenny13 @ Oct 10 2012, 01:34 PM)
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:32 PM

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excuse me what is SS??

my demon hunter too weak..obviously needs gear overhaul
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Sharp Shooter, a passive that grants you up to 100% critical hit chance.
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:33 PM

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my cheap poor demon hunter TT

i see..thanks smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 10 2012, 02:33 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kelThuz...4/hero/27113161

my cheap poor demon hunter TT

i see..thanks smile.gif
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Ur weopon no so good. I got one 2 hand xbow 11xx dps with sockect. Free to u if u interest, tq
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 10 2012, 03:18 PM)
Ur weopon no so good. I got one 2 hand xbow 11xx dps with sockect. Free to u if u interest, tq
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Lol..for a moment I thought i saw you "got two 1 hand 11XX dps with socket ( Dan set)"...100 Million I buy no need free..smile.gif

Trying to get Dan spite with socket 950 DPS ...siow 100 Mil above. 1k DPS one liao siow..500 mil? Hope to Danneta's spirit that she drops one for me..smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:35 PM

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haha..if free sure people want..haha..

just reach level 60, now i can finally buy better equipment

next, play witch doctor n wizard..hehe

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post Oct 10 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 10 2012, 04:21 PM)
Lol..for a moment I thought i saw you "got two 1 hand 11XX dps with socket ( Dan set)"...100 Million I buy no need free..smile.gif

Trying to get Dan spite with socket 950 DPS ...siow 100 Mil above. 1k DPS one liao siow..500 mil? Hope to Danneta's spirit that she drops one for me..smile.gif
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U salah tengoh lah! If i got two 1k dps Dan set, my dps oledi break 100k lol!!! Last time use is no sockect one then I sold both (usd40) and I bought two 870 dps got sockect one and gem ( all usd40 finish)...haha, now oso hunt 1k dps socket in ah, c got cheap one or no...haha
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haha..if free sure people want..haha..

just reach level 60, now i can finally buy better equipment

next, play witch doctor n wizard..hehe
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cheers.gif cheers.gif Same same, DH just hit 60 YTD. WZ and WD not start yet.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 10 2012, 04:35 PM)
haha..if free sure people want..haha..

just reach level 60, now i can finally buy better equipment

next, play witch doctor n wizard..hehe
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post Oct 11 2012, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Oct 10 2012, 06:49 PM)
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:37 AM)
Thanks ya, I oso will try increase some vit. Now hunting Legarcy Nataya helm which got vit and dex ( now wear only dex but no vit)... I oso try my best to boost dps too ( hope can break 100k)..
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Consider one with socket. Gives you flexibility to gem mf, xp, or hp.
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Noooo the latest 1.05 revision nerfed bola from 17 yards to 14. That's a nerf of 40% in terms of area sad.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 05:50 AM

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Consider one with socket. Gives you flexibility to gem mf, xp, or hp.
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Give me 80m..then can buy one.. Haha
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post Oct 11 2012, 06:43 AM

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Hmm..what stats should i have to clear inferno?i mean if playing solo
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post Oct 11 2012, 07:16 AM

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Hmm..what stats should i have to clear inferno?i mean if playing solo
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Hp 30k, ar 300, armor 3000, dps 50k without ss, play kiting..
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can my demon hunter complete inferno with this build?how to boost the max dps n defense? icon_question.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 11 2012, 07:39 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kelThuz...4/hero/27113161

can my demon hunter complete inferno with this build?how to boost the max dps n defense? icon_question.gif
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Ur build more than enough to clear inferno 104, just go ahead!! U can finish it in few hours..
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ok i will try finish inferno today..weekend it is wizard or witch doctor time!!! previously my monk n barb failed bcoz undergeared
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any upgrade advise?
i know my next upgrade is shoulder, other than that?
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Hp 30k, ar 300, armor 3000, dps 50k without ss, play kiting..
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yesterday play without using TOC... wa Damn boring.. not sure if want to roll new char for 1.05 or not....
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ya man, i could not imagine without TOC how bored it is to farm solo... im highly dependant on TOC now.
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Sorry to ask, what is TOC?
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trail of cinderrrrrrrr the best skill in diablo3, highest damage + escape
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oh, vault of fire!
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post Oct 11 2012, 11:12 AM

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Never use TOC in d3 until now, only use generade sapu all...
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ToC sucks. I hate vaulting around here and there like a monkey.
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ToC kill very fast wor ^^
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I rather vault like monkey than die like pancake.
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enjoy it while u can.. getting nerfed soon biggrin.gif
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so that means I gotta finish inferno b4 1.0.5.
Act 1 cleared ytd, target A2 today
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 11 2012, 11:44 AM)
so that means I gotta finish inferno b4 1.0.5.
Act 1 cleared ytd, target A2 today
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im going to try finish this week...
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 11 2012, 11:37 AM)
I rather vault like monkey than die like pancake.
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Well i don't die like pancakes. Unless u have low DPS or survivability or both.
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if you have high DPS, vault is even more fun!
i used to hate it, but im gonna miss it after 1.0.4 patch.

so i'm already starting to quit my DH
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 11 2012, 05:50 AM)
Give me 80m..then can buy one.. Haha
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I rather vault like monkey than die like pancake.
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I rather vault like a monkey than get left behind by the group.
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post Oct 11 2012, 02:49 PM

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I rather vault like a monkey than get left behind by the group.
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oledi bought my new nata helm with 80 vit cost 7m...

last time i sold a nata helm with socket after 104, usd 80!!! really exp!!!! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 11 2012, 01:15 PM)
if you have high DPS, vault is even more fun!
i used to hate it, but im gonna miss it after 1.0.4 patch.

so i'm already starting to quit my DH
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har. .. which char.. I'm wondering to go barb or wd because these 2 haven't try yet...
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I think barb is much nicer. The WD play style is kinda gay to me.
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barb or monk is equally good but i felt that barb is too dependent on the whirlwind build.

monk has more builds to go about. tank, dps, heal etc..
and the kungfu moves are sexy ahahhaha
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WW barbs are for noobs. AT least that's what my barb playing friend tells me. Something like just meshing two buttons.
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Just testing my Tank DH how fast can kill diablo inferno....only use 3 mins. tongue.gif
Skills is Hungering Arrow and Impale.
only running away the catch of Diablo.


Here is the video i upload to youtube but low resolution... tongue.gif

Jusr sharing, thank you.



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